Great video! He is such a smart man! I have been researching him after watching the documentary Finding Joe, in which Sir Ken Robinson gives an interview. It is an inspiring documentary based off of the work of the famed author Joseph Campbell. The film focuses on how Campbell’s philosophies on life can be utilized in order to insure the best life possible for you. It is such a motivational film; I loved it! bitly . com / tke3 8E? =b b
The 21st century: Non-fiction is the new self help, Being Italian is a fashion accessory, Teaching in a foreign country makes you an ambassador even without qualifications, living in Germany makes you a freedom fighter, being original and non conformist makes you liable to the tall poppy syndrome, tweeting is the new form of riot organisation, wikipedia is knowledge on the run if you hate reading, being homosexual is the norm and heterosexuality is a crime, anti depressants are the new reality..
Also the OU have subversive advertisement campaign...they go to people in the street and ask them what they would do with 20,000GBP (without notion - so obvious) when in reality a lot of their money will go into the same govt. system anyway. Do the maths. The OU was designed by the system to 'catch' all those people who disagree with the system and indoctrinate them too!! There is almost no escaping it in the UK...get a degree or be poor...especially if you want a visa!
There's certainly no escaping the government's broken education system.
I'm lucky because I've managed to do courses that have been on a basis of "I get out what I put in". The paper at the end has not been that much of a concern(only wanted to become a better programmer), but there is this "no degree, no worth" thing going around that knocks one's confidence.
My next aim is to study maths, but I think a Certificate is as far as I go.
That's another thing that is plain wrong: The Honours part of a Degree.
I think the Honours should be an optional final year, rather than saying "if you don't get the honours, then your degree is classed as a fail".
With the OU(sorry, I do study with them), a Degree without Honours is simply 300 credits of study, whilst with Honours is 360 credits. There's no "fail" about it. But most employers will still say "Without honours its a failed degree".
@SamusDrake the OU owe me loads of money and wont give it back. When I found out I had to pay three times the amount they only gave me less than a third back of what I paid them to start with because 'I had already started my course...blah blah..' even though I never actually started studying with them. It's the same with US unis I am trying to get my money back after they said I now have to do even more courses to get a degree because of 'the regulations' have changed. its all BS mate! haha
Did they not explain it over the phone that you have a certain amount of time to cancel before the start date of the course? It must have been a while back because they have to now.
I pulled out of M366 last year, and because I phoned before the first cut off date, I got 60% of £415(about £240) refunded. Part of the cost is to cover the course materials - which I get to keep.
@SamusDrake I did pull out. Also, I never received ANY of my course materials but they were 'sent'... to be fair its not the entirely the OUs fault its the govt. wanting charge higher taxes (they call it less funding) How can a 30 point course cost so much for a 'foreign' student?
Course materials that cost wayyy too much...have you been to a book store recently?
Not sure what to think of it. It sounds out of the OU's character...when you say "foreign", do you mean you are a "foreigner" studying in the UK, or outside the UK?
Just curious in case I have to live abroad and want to continue study with the OU.
@SamusDrake Actually, at certain universities you can get a 1st class degree without Honours. If you pass 6 or 7 of the exams out of say 8 and get over 70% then you get a 1st degree BUT because you didn't pass every single exam you don't get an 'honours' degree. It's a misunderstanding on the side of the employers but aslo part of the indoctrinated system designed to make YOU spend more on your studies (when you may not need to) and to make unis and the govt MORE money.
The problem with degrees is that they take a long time to complete, and they don't allow a student much freedom to explore other subjects.
This is why I think certificates and diplomas should be more recognised. For example, one might achieve a diploma in maths, but find they lack communication skills, so they do a certificate in Social science. Or they lack computing skills - they do an IT diploma...
For the working majority education should be like a well balanced diet...
@SamusDrake I studies one year of maths at one university one year of maths at another university teaching and education at another university, psychology and education at another university and networking and information systems at another university. In total 5 to 6 universities. I have enough academic credit at the right levels to warrant a 'degree' but none of the universities will award me one simply because the don't have a 'named' degree for what I have studied!!!?!?!!? how dumb is that!
With some further study(depends on what you have already done), you might be able to use those credits towards an OU "Open Degree", where you can choose your own courses. If you have done both year 1 and 2 level study, you may only have the 3rd year study to do with them...Its worth a butchers! ^_^
@SamusDrake doing another year...like upto 7 years...just to get a degree...that's crazy. The whole system is courterized and corrupt designed to make those 'with' degrees worth something they are not and the universities too. Because the universities and politicians continue to 'bull' this way of thinking...which helps line their pockets very nicely. That's the REAL reason they want to push 'THE DEGREE' (i.e 'educated vs uneducated') only its now backfired. Im much better of with my MCSE/CCNA!!
@ogicabp4u already tried...too much bureaucracy apparently because (even though I am a UK citizen born in the UK and my fater too because my grandmother on my mothers side of the family wasn't I have to pay 3 times as much as any other UK student) It's the same bullshit bureaucracy in the US but different reasoning. Why don't unis just tell the truth "we want to screw u for all the money we can because we are in a position to do so cos without us u cant get a good job!!"...
@SamusDrake I agree!!! Bur universities wont grant you 'a degree' if you have multiple courses from multiple institutions even though some of those course may count towards their 'named' degrees. the OU has other hidden restrictions too...even with an open degree!!! the education system is designed to make certain people lots of money govt. and politicians and red bricks / ivy leagues are trying to push this by tightening up job requirements in all sectors. All part of the dirty tricks campaign!
we're living in a generation where everybody is aware of the problem of our education, and nobody has a clear solution. So we're talking. Robinson gives out a couple of ideas.
His explanation of creativity, although close to de Bono's, is better and clearer. This is extremely helpful to use in front of people who think it's about inspiration and 'born with' talent.
Great video! He is such a smart man! I have been researching him after watching the documentary Finding Joe, in which Sir Ken Robinson gives an interview. It is an inspiring documentary based off of the work of the famed author Joseph Campbell. The film focuses on how Campbell’s philosophies on life can be utilized in order to insure the best life possible for you. It is such a motivational film; I loved it! bitly . com / tke3 8E? =b b
ecm0418 1 week ago
The 21st century: Non-fiction is the new self help, Being Italian is a fashion accessory, Teaching in a foreign country makes you an ambassador even without qualifications, living in Germany makes you a freedom fighter, being original and non conformist makes you liable to the tall poppy syndrome, tweeting is the new form of riot organisation, wikipedia is knowledge on the run if you hate reading, being homosexual is the norm and heterosexuality is a crime, anti depressants are the new reality..
Johnnystrychnine 5 months ago
Also the OU have subversive advertisement campaign...they go to people in the street and ask them what they would do with 20,000GBP (without notion - so obvious) when in reality a lot of their money will go into the same govt. system anyway. Do the maths. The OU was designed by the system to 'catch' all those people who disagree with the system and indoctrinate them too!! There is almost no escaping it in the UK...get a degree or be poor...especially if you want a visa!
ogicabp4u 10 months ago
@ogicabp4u
There's certainly no escaping the government's broken education system.
I'm lucky because I've managed to do courses that have been on a basis of "I get out what I put in". The paper at the end has not been that much of a concern(only wanted to become a better programmer), but there is this "no degree, no worth" thing going around that knocks one's confidence.
My next aim is to study maths, but I think a Certificate is as far as I go.
SamusDrake 10 months ago
That's another thing that is plain wrong: The Honours part of a Degree.
I think the Honours should be an optional final year, rather than saying "if you don't get the honours, then your degree is classed as a fail".
With the OU(sorry, I do study with them), a Degree without Honours is simply 300 credits of study, whilst with Honours is 360 credits. There's no "fail" about it. But most employers will still say "Without honours its a failed degree".
SamusDrake 10 months ago
@SamusDrake the OU owe me loads of money and wont give it back. When I found out I had to pay three times the amount they only gave me less than a third back of what I paid them to start with because 'I had already started my course...blah blah..' even though I never actually started studying with them. It's the same with US unis I am trying to get my money back after they said I now have to do even more courses to get a degree because of 'the regulations' have changed. its all BS mate! haha
ogicabp4u 10 months ago
@ogicabp4u
Did they not explain it over the phone that you have a certain amount of time to cancel before the start date of the course? It must have been a while back because they have to now.
I pulled out of M366 last year, and because I phoned before the first cut off date, I got 60% of £415(about £240) refunded. Part of the cost is to cover the course materials - which I get to keep.
SamusDrake 10 months ago
@SamusDrake I did pull out. Also, I never received ANY of my course materials but they were 'sent'... to be fair its not the entirely the OUs fault its the govt. wanting charge higher taxes (they call it less funding) How can a 30 point course cost so much for a 'foreign' student?
Course materials that cost wayyy too much...have you been to a book store recently?
ogicabp4u 10 months ago
@ogicabp4u
Not sure what to think of it. It sounds out of the OU's character...when you say "foreign", do you mean you are a "foreigner" studying in the UK, or outside the UK?
Just curious in case I have to live abroad and want to continue study with the OU.
SamusDrake 10 months ago
@SamusDrake Actually, at certain universities you can get a 1st class degree without Honours. If you pass 6 or 7 of the exams out of say 8 and get over 70% then you get a 1st degree BUT because you didn't pass every single exam you don't get an 'honours' degree. It's a misunderstanding on the side of the employers but aslo part of the indoctrinated system designed to make YOU spend more on your studies (when you may not need to) and to make unis and the govt MORE money.
ogicabp4u 10 months ago
The problem with degrees is that they take a long time to complete, and they don't allow a student much freedom to explore other subjects.
This is why I think certificates and diplomas should be more recognised. For example, one might achieve a diploma in maths, but find they lack communication skills, so they do a certificate in Social science. Or they lack computing skills - they do an IT diploma...
For the working majority education should be like a well balanced diet...
SamusDrake 11 months ago
@SamusDrake I studies one year of maths at one university one year of maths at another university teaching and education at another university, psychology and education at another university and networking and information systems at another university. In total 5 to 6 universities. I have enough academic credit at the right levels to warrant a 'degree' but none of the universities will award me one simply because the don't have a 'named' degree for what I have studied!!!?!?!!? how dumb is that!
ogicabp4u 10 months ago
@ogicabp4u
With some further study(depends on what you have already done), you might be able to use those credits towards an OU "Open Degree", where you can choose your own courses. If you have done both year 1 and 2 level study, you may only have the 3rd year study to do with them...Its worth a butchers! ^_^
SamusDrake 10 months ago
@SamusDrake doing another year...like upto 7 years...just to get a degree...that's crazy. The whole system is courterized and corrupt designed to make those 'with' degrees worth something they are not and the universities too. Because the universities and politicians continue to 'bull' this way of thinking...which helps line their pockets very nicely. That's the REAL reason they want to push 'THE DEGREE' (i.e 'educated vs uneducated') only its now backfired. Im much better of with my MCSE/CCNA!!
ogicabp4u 10 months ago
@ogicabp4u already tried...too much bureaucracy apparently because (even though I am a UK citizen born in the UK and my fater too because my grandmother on my mothers side of the family wasn't I have to pay 3 times as much as any other UK student) It's the same bullshit bureaucracy in the US but different reasoning. Why don't unis just tell the truth "we want to screw u for all the money we can because we are in a position to do so cos without us u cant get a good job!!"...
ogicabp4u 10 months ago
@SamusDrake I agree!!! Bur universities wont grant you 'a degree' if you have multiple courses from multiple institutions even though some of those course may count towards their 'named' degrees. the OU has other hidden restrictions too...even with an open degree!!! the education system is designed to make certain people lots of money govt. and politicians and red bricks / ivy leagues are trying to push this by tightening up job requirements in all sectors. All part of the dirty tricks campaign!
ogicabp4u 10 months ago
we're living in a generation where everybody is aware of the problem of our education, and nobody has a clear solution. So we're talking. Robinson gives out a couple of ideas.
rainzoro 1 year ago 2
He was in Toronto and I missed it? Darn.
xKurogashi 1 year ago
@xKurogashi I KNOW!!!!!
trinitymike 1 year ago
His explanation of creativity, although close to de Bono's, is better and clearer. This is extremely helpful to use in front of people who think it's about inspiration and 'born with' talent.
philipinstarbucks 1 year ago
'Gotta admit: the Brits are GREAT! on 'Systems' -note their cultural track record...~{^_^}~
CeeGeeZ 1 year ago
Ken Robinson is my hero!
carolgraciosa 1 year ago 16
Great video. I'm a huge fan of Mr. Robinson's work...
JohnLaceyTV 1 year ago 14