Being a follower of Christ, and Hamza being a follower of Muhammad, Hamza has a completely open mind and is centered. Hamza ; Being right or wrong I hope we all believe in our spirit, and hopefully we are not walking this earth without guidance. All would be pointless and that would be sad.
i agree with hamza that assuming that reality exists is a leap of faith. science does not need to acknowledge existence, merely understand the world functions under the presupposition. that does not mean the presupposition is correct, nor does it mean that science is false. that leads back to agnosticism.
Before I watch it all, does this speaker cover more than the tired and defeated "Origins/Fine Tuning" argument? These have been shut down so many times I can't lose 100 minutes to it.
atheists are simply confused. they can't even proof the existence of their great great great grandmother, without using logic as "since we are here today, she must have existed." Well that reasoning is using rational, and so Muslims say: "since we are here today and the universe is here, then ONE who is uncaused and immaterial caused the universe which is sum of all material and that One is ALLAH, the One, Eternal, did not beget, nor begotten and nothing we know can equate to Him [Quran 112:1-4]
Now you cn see why Richard Dawkins nd the seclar establishmnt behnd him keep well awy frm top Muslim schlars lke Hamza Tzortsis nd stks to dbating scientificaly indefensble Biblical young earth Christns.
Richard alwys resrts to a 'who designed the Designer?' argument. In science the best expanation does not require an expnation and the best explanation for Universe's origin is GOD - SIMPLE.
Remember that even if evolution were true it would stil b a miracle (eg cell) and thrfore still, GOD!
@JoeMorreale1187 U SAID "Remember that even if evolution were true it would stil b a miracle (eg cell) and thrfore still,GOD!"
There are many natural hypothesis' for the formation of the first cell. There were the Miller-Urey experiments in 1962 that simulated the Earths atmosphere 4 billion years ago, they were able to produce 20 amino acids, which included all Amino acids necessary for life. It might seem impossible to some but so seems evolution and black holes. Science isn't common sense.
Rick Lewis is astoundingly useless at debating theology. I'm surprised that he's the editor of Philosophy Now. He seems lost at several points during the debate whilst having the philosophically stronger position. His ignorance puts him on the back foot heavily. They should have had a proper atheist - Hamza wouldn't have stood a chance. Someone like Christopher Hitchens would have done the job in 5 mins.
Great debate once again, Brother Hamza said it all. I guess Rick ran out of logical answers or rational points to defend his atheistic/antagnostic views on the Existence of God.
Verily, morality is linked to God, thus if one denies God, their perception, judgement && mentality in regards to "Morality" is challenged && maybe deficient.
And the best bit always is when Hamza speaks lol.
Jazak'Allah khair for uploading. Assalamu 'alaikum.
That first comment from that guy about his mum hitting him, that was utter nonsense, trying to make a point that doesn't even compare to anything being talked about.
Masha'Allah great debate, very entertaining && interesting.
But as always Hamza evidently succeeded best in supplying evidence && logically proving the Existence of GOd masha'Allah. May Allah subhana wa ta'ala bless him && his works. Ameen.
I guess more debates need to place like these to allow both parties to exchange their views && prove who truly is correct && who isn't.
heisenbergs uncertainty principle states that you cannot identify a particles position and momentum not because the observer affects the positioning and momentum but becus theres no ability or hidden variable this argument fits in with the ashari position of occaisionalism they said there are no secondary causes only God causes. causality is not an empirical proposition bt apriori necessary for rational and scientific thinking. Thus naturalistic causes give way to only a metaphysica cause ie God
The best I've seen brother Hamza to date. I don't think that Rick Lewis was the right person for this debate though. He did an excellent job in expressing his agnosticism, but the debate needed someone who actually believed that God is a delusion--an atheist. If there was an atheist on the other side of the table I think Hamza would have ran rings around him.
Amazing - I enjoyed watching this much. Keep the great work on Hamza! We should all play our roles in conveying to humanity the great nature of Islam & try to channel youths in serving all human kind in best ways and prevent them from getting into trouble or harm others.
I believe at the same time we should be thoughtful as we criticize Christianity & Judaism and not do that, if ever, without first considering thoroughly God's revelations to these people.
Evil - "The amount of suffering in this world would suggest otherwise" ~ I put this question forward, do you believe in freedom? If the answer is yes, how can you then expect a deity to interfere. To accept freedom, total freedom, as well with its sheer beauty, you must also accept the sheer evil that exists with freedom, otherwise, it is not truly freedom. Odd to associate an evil with something beneficial, when did anyone say life was simple! Great Video, Masha'Allah.
i was late to this event, and i arrived when the athiest dude was talking. i was falling asleep!! untill Hamza kicked in he woke up the whole audience :D but i like his Dr Naik answers :P
I liked it so much I just clapped my hands behind the computer xD
Haha Barakallah feek for uploading and to Hamza.
May Allah grant you all Jannah al Firdaus
Weezyzack 3 months ago
Being a follower of Christ, and Hamza being a follower of Muhammad, Hamza has a completely open mind and is centered. Hamza ; Being right or wrong I hope we all believe in our spirit, and hopefully we are not walking this earth without guidance. All would be pointless and that would be sad.
unpredictable420 8 months ago 7
@unpredictable420
amen.
IslamIstheWayforMe 7 months ago
i agree with hamza that assuming that reality exists is a leap of faith. science does not need to acknowledge existence, merely understand the world functions under the presupposition. that does not mean the presupposition is correct, nor does it mean that science is false. that leads back to agnosticism.
AtheistAnarchoRudi 1 year ago
the best explanation doesn't require an explanation...
end debate lol
right.
Bboiblack 1 year ago
Before I watch it all, does this speaker cover more than the tired and defeated "Origins/Fine Tuning" argument? These have been shut down so many times I can't lose 100 minutes to it.
AjnaKotobide 1 year ago
@AjnaKotobide Can you guide me to the videos where those arguments are defeated?
glower125 11 months ago
@AjnaKotobide have you watch it all?
polyninja 10 months ago
atheists are simply confused. they can't even proof the existence of their great great great grandmother, without using logic as "since we are here today, she must have existed." Well that reasoning is using rational, and so Muslims say: "since we are here today and the universe is here, then ONE who is uncaused and immaterial caused the universe which is sum of all material and that One is ALLAH, the One, Eternal, did not beget, nor begotten and nothing we know can equate to Him [Quran 112:1-4]
robin4good 1 year ago
Bring it on Richard Dawkins...what u Got!!
rangas07 1 year ago 5
@rangas07 hes a birdbrain and doesnt debate muslims because he knows what will happen.. nobody will buy anymore of his books lol..
theproudONE92 11 months ago
Now you cn see why Richard Dawkins nd the seclar establishmnt behnd him keep well awy frm top Muslim schlars lke Hamza Tzortsis nd stks to dbating scientificaly indefensble Biblical young earth Christns.
Richard alwys resrts to a 'who designed the Designer?' argument. In science the best expanation does not require an expnation and the best explanation for Universe's origin is GOD - SIMPLE.
Remember that even if evolution were true it would stil b a miracle (eg cell) and thrfore still, GOD!
JoeMorreale1187 2 years ago 14
@JoeMorreale1187 U SAID "Remember that even if evolution were true it would stil b a miracle (eg cell) and thrfore still,GOD!"
There are many natural hypothesis' for the formation of the first cell. There were the Miller-Urey experiments in 1962 that simulated the Earths atmosphere 4 billion years ago, they were able to produce 20 amino acids, which included all Amino acids necessary for life. It might seem impossible to some but so seems evolution and black holes. Science isn't common sense.
mrpayne123 1 year ago
Rick Lewis is astoundingly useless at debating theology. I'm surprised that he's the editor of Philosophy Now. He seems lost at several points during the debate whilst having the philosophically stronger position. His ignorance puts him on the back foot heavily. They should have had a proper atheist - Hamza wouldn't have stood a chance. Someone like Christopher Hitchens would have done the job in 5 mins.
jesal21 2 years ago
Great debate once again, Brother Hamza said it all. I guess Rick ran out of logical answers or rational points to defend his atheistic/antagnostic views on the Existence of God.
Verily, morality is linked to God, thus if one denies God, their perception, judgement && mentality in regards to "Morality" is challenged && maybe deficient.
And the best bit always is when Hamza speaks lol.
Jazak'Allah khair for uploading. Assalamu 'alaikum.
TheMuslimahSouljette 2 years ago 5
That first comment from that guy about his mum hitting him, that was utter nonsense, trying to make a point that doesn't even compare to anything being talked about.
JeanLouie1106 2 years ago 5
Masha'Allah great debate, very entertaining && interesting.
But as always Hamza evidently succeeded best in supplying evidence && logically proving the Existence of GOd masha'Allah. May Allah subhana wa ta'ala bless him && his works. Ameen.
I guess more debates need to place like these to allow both parties to exchange their views && prove who truly is correct && who isn't.
Salamu 'alaikum, jazak'Allah khair for uploading.
TheMuslimahSouljette 2 years ago 7
HAMZA KILLED RICK.
DeedatRules 2 years ago 48
@DeedatRules rick killed himself. He's just a bad speaker imo, not to mention his arguments are weak.
AhmadPhilips 4 months ago
heisenbergs uncertainty principle states that you cannot identify a particles position and momentum not because the observer affects the positioning and momentum but becus theres no ability or hidden variable this argument fits in with the ashari position of occaisionalism they said there are no secondary causes only God causes. causality is not an empirical proposition bt apriori necessary for rational and scientific thinking. Thus naturalistic causes give way to only a metaphysica cause ie God
mindul 2 years ago
The best I've seen brother Hamza to date. I don't think that Rick Lewis was the right person for this debate though. He did an excellent job in expressing his agnosticism, but the debate needed someone who actually believed that God is a delusion--an atheist. If there was an atheist on the other side of the table I think Hamza would have ran rings around him.
Activisteriser 2 years ago 40
@Activisteriser There is a debate where the athiest dude can't break Hamza's ISLAMIC ARGUMENT :) :) :)
It's in Khalifahklothing youtube channel.
Pizziesta 1 year ago
Amazing - I enjoyed watching this much. Keep the great work on Hamza! We should all play our roles in conveying to humanity the great nature of Islam & try to channel youths in serving all human kind in best ways and prevent them from getting into trouble or harm others.
I believe at the same time we should be thoughtful as we criticize Christianity & Judaism and not do that, if ever, without first considering thoroughly God's revelations to these people.
Bless you God.
Salem838 2 years ago
Evil - "The amount of suffering in this world would suggest otherwise" ~ I put this question forward, do you believe in freedom? If the answer is yes, how can you then expect a deity to interfere. To accept freedom, total freedom, as well with its sheer beauty, you must also accept the sheer evil that exists with freedom, otherwise, it is not truly freedom. Odd to associate an evil with something beneficial, when did anyone say life was simple! Great Video, Masha'Allah.
purpleprinc3 2 years ago
You have a point. But why the excessive pain? What's so beneficial about a god who intends to burn people forever in hell?
doculog 2 years ago
the Question on 1:25:00 was really a smart one.
achilleus11 2 years ago
Well done Hamza - you were brill - keep up the great work!. Masha'Allah.
akburg 2 years ago
i was late to this event, and i arrived when the athiest dude was talking. i was falling asleep!! untill Hamza kicked in he woke up the whole audience :D but i like his Dr Naik answers :P
partymonkey08 2 years ago
Brilliant....
SuleimanalMuslim 2 years ago