The whovian answer is that they are different doctors with different perspectives, but in any case just because the Doctor thought that Donna wasn't important it doesn't mean that she didn't become important and indeed she did!
Explanation: At this point, while still the tenth doctor, he thought that everybody was important except her. Then, it later turned out that she was important after all. So the doctor realized that yeah, everybody is important. Some time after that, he regenerated.
The Doctor just learned his lesson with Donna you see. It was because of her that he now has the corrected thinking that everyone is important. He was just niave and she changed that with her "unimportantness". lol
Well and lets not forget they might be the same man but they're totally different personalities, with different views on things. One might think there are unimportant people, and while the other doesn't.
@smallvillenerd - You mean Steven Moffatt. Russell T Davies was a Doctor Who writing LEGEND. It was the Moff who cocked up all of his brilliant work when he took over.
Yeah, but then she turned out to be, I believe the quote was the "most important person in the universe"... So just because he thought she was unimportant before it doesn't mean that stood true.
Well David Tennant's doctor was pretty damn arrogant, maybe now that the Doctor's older he's had time to look back on that time in his life and learn from it.
He's a bit more of a show off as Matt Smith but at the same time he's a bit more humble.
yeah, it's pretty tricky, the english language. He probably meant that Donna wasn't "odd" enough for her to seem NECESSARY to the aliens in question. Easier said, she wasn't important, but not in the belittling sense.
Weird how she turned out to be the most important person in all of creation...
basically, anytime he says that someone isn't important, it makes the universe snap to attention and MAKE the person he's talking about very important indeed.
Don't think there's any real contradiction. Two slightly different sense of important, one relative, the second ultimate (the first in the video actually).
The way the character dismisses the girl, who is in quite a distressing situation, as "not important is cold and flippant and the Eleventh Doctor rightly calls it out, by pointing out the fact that ultimately no one is "unimportant", and he does it brilliantly.
It's because when he regenerates, he also change personality so he may have different opinions about the importance of people. If you watch seriously, you would know that Tenth hates guns although Eleven doesn't have any problem with it.
Thers also another mistake int eh same spisode, when 11 goes over to the control and Kazran say there "icomorphic" 11 says that cant happen, that its not real but the MAsters laer screwdriver was icomorphic, becaseu 10 tried to use it and failed
@TheStalkerNinja That's not really a mistake either, cos the Doctor talks a lot of smack to confuse his opponents. Obfuscating stupidity is one of his tricks of the trade.
I think its because 10 learns from Adelade Brook (waters of mars) how dangerous it can be to think of people being more important than others, after he claims hes saved a few 'little people' and she shows him hes going down a dark path with his way of thinking. so 11 is actually making a point, more to himself than anything, that he believes that everyone is equally important in time and space.
Not politically important, not a famous or well known (influential to many) type of person. I think this video shouldn't be taken too seriously, just two scenes, put out of context, together for a laugh.
Given that Moffat's name isn't RTD, I don't see how he would remember what he didn't write. It was RTD's mistake to write a line like 'not important' to begin with.
Plus lets not forget he first met Donna, when she just shwoed up in the TARDIS right after the big goodbye in Doomsday so its fair to say he wasn't in the best of moods
yeah, i love DW more than almost any other show, and i know they have different personalities in this situation, but the truth is that this show has a ton plot inconsistencies. but they make up for it in amazing characters and dialogue.
@ModestlyAwesomer any given episode has inconsistencies so i dunno why we fans get so hung up on inconsistencies within seasons, eras, or the whole 50 years even
You realize he just doesn't realize how important Donna is yet right? :I;; it was just what he thought at first and learned from that first judgment, because he does say that Donna is important later on, so he has in fact never met an unimportant person.
This is the difference between Moffat writing the Doctor and Davies writing about the Doctor--Moffat's Doctor seems to care more about individuals and Davies' Doctor was stuck in a flip-flopping state of condemning humanity as a whole one minute and then adulating it the same way the next. Moffat's has more consistency.
that's the difference between Ten and Eleven. Also he meant more a kind of 'not especially important to society' kind of thing, like, not the prime minister, etc.
I see your point. But I think the meaning of what eleven said, is that every single living person in the world in important. Whereas ten probably just meant that Donna didn't seem specifically important. If you get what I mean.
He was just thinking out loud/being blunt/annoyed at her at the time, he didn't *really* think anyone's not important. and even if he had. he'd surely learned from that after she saved the universe....
Doctor learns from his past - hence why, after the Time War, he was a lot more violent towards Daleks. And after having met Rose, he became a very anti-violence person. And after spending so long around humans, he's actually come to quite like us! :)
@CaptainAndyman ...And after "Journey's end" and everything he lost there, he's once again quite tired of everyone's favourite pepperpots - by "Victory of the Daleks", he wanted them wiped out of the sky for good... Can't blame him after being forced to basically mindrape one of his closest friends...
He obviously learnt from that mistake. Good thing too. The way I see it, that's the main theme of the series; even the mist insignificant seeming individual can be the mist important man woman or other in the universe, they just need a moment to shine.
I think it's out of context, by 'important' the Tenth Doctor meant on a huge scale - it might be expected that the Racnoss would only manipulate and interfere with somebody important or with authority over other people, if you understand me :) The Doctor himself, though, would view Donna as important to him.
Even RTD made a mistake with this one. First calling her NOT important only to later say he met her twice (the only one in the whole wide world) and the whole parallel earth thing in Turn Left.
'rule 1 the doctor lies' a clever way for the new writer to re-write everything we already know in the show
keiracounsell 1 hour ago
that awkward moment when two top comments are the same comments.
torchdexto 18 hours ago
actually, simply put, he was WRONG, she turned out to be very important. So his argument still stands.
calindor23 2 days ago 4
He said he didn't like cats in 'fear her' then in 'gridlock' he was cuddling kittens..
CharleeeeEmm 3 days ago
The whovian answer is that they are different doctors with different perspectives, but in any case just because the Doctor thought that Donna wasn't important it doesn't mean that she didn't become important and indeed she did!
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vinnycentful 1 week ago
Nah, that's just the 10th Doctor and he's habit of being rude
TheSman515 1 week ago
Dam it! The two top comments are the same! I hate it when that happens!
TheAfroThunder1 1 week ago
what season was the first clip from???
was it a preview or something, I've watched all six seasons, except part 2 season 6, and i do not remember that one. Someone answer
VBGoPro 1 week ago
@VBGoPro It is the Christmas special for 2010 (A Christmas Carol) so I guess you could say it is the sixth season.
Puffycheeks288 1 week ago
Explanation: At this point, while still the tenth doctor, he thought that everybody was important except her. Then, it later turned out that she was important after all. So the doctor realized that yeah, everybody is important. Some time after that, he regenerated.
Case closed.
Forthelemon 2 weeks ago 6
Well Donna was important so technically the 11th Doctor at his period in time still hasnt met someone that isnt Important.
Tomlilz 2 weeks ago 9
Lawls
SilverPatronus17 2 weeks ago
D-d-dumbledore? I never knew Kazran was played by the actor who played Dumbledore.
myturningtables 2 weeks ago
Hahaha oops :)
littletalifox 3 weeks ago
Hahahaha I love you.
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Puffycheeks288 4 weeks ago 4
It's DUMBELDORE !!! ^^
TheMlleSam 1 month ago
Well actually the Doctor didn't know she was important at that time
HarrypotterHP7 1 month ago
"Sorry! It's Christmas, I was up on the roof, saw a chimeny and was like, "What the hell?"
harrypotterfantng 1 month ago 2
Ahahahahahaha :D
BilliePiperLuv 1 month ago
But donna was important. Just not at that point in her life.
nichill86 1 month ago
In the end she was important
PolexiaAphrodisia 1 month ago
Dude I get what you're saying :) but maybe he told her that she is not important on purpose because she slapped him in the face... TWICE!!!
SongokuCY 1 month ago
The Doctor just learned his lesson with Donna you see. It was because of her that he now has the corrected thinking that everyone is important. He was just niave and she changed that with her "unimportantness". lol
emunahberurah 1 month ago
Well and lets not forget they might be the same man but they're totally different personalities, with different views on things. One might think there are unimportant people, and while the other doesn't.
harpdevil 1 month ago
So the Doctor admitted he was wrong. That's a hard thing for any Time Lord to do. He should be applauded for it.
AtarahDerek 1 month ago
@smallvillenerd - You mean Steven Moffatt. Russell T Davies was a Doctor Who writing LEGEND. It was the Moff who cocked up all of his brilliant work when he took over.
Gorgangler14 1 month ago
Yeah, but then she turned out to be, I believe the quote was the "most important person in the universe"... So just because he thought she was unimportant before it doesn't mean that stood true.
saerilee 1 month ago
Haha poor Donna! "Nobody is the whole universe isn't important...well, except you!"
martang66 1 month ago
@martang66 Yes, and Jack Harkness will flirt with literally anything that talks... except Donna.
RenardeBlanche 1 month ago
@RenardeBlanche and jackie lol
jhibbitt1 1 month ago
If we are forgiving it could be assumed that the Doctor was joking when he said that to Donna, maybe trying to provoke a reaction from her.
graham1984 1 month ago
she's not important, shes ginger, no soul
1andrewman1 1 month ago
of course shes important, shes doctor donna, he just didnt realize how important she actually was
shawn70715 1 month ago
He found out how important she was later on when the earth was again invaded by daleks
LuluLilypad 1 month ago
Well David Tennant's doctor was pretty damn arrogant, maybe now that the Doctor's older he's had time to look back on that time in his life and learn from it.
He's a bit more of a show off as Matt Smith but at the same time he's a bit more humble.
OneWingedRose 1 month ago 2
yeah, it's pretty tricky, the english language. He probably meant that Donna wasn't "odd" enough for her to seem NECESSARY to the aliens in question. Easier said, she wasn't important, but not in the belittling sense.
lazyd3vil 1 month ago
different regenerations different personalities
mbranford9 1 month ago
10 ans 11 are different...... have kinda different opinions of people.....and 10 didn§t mean it same way like 11, I think
TimoSverige 1 month ago
It's not a mistake because donna ended up saving the whole of reality. I think that's pretty important.
thedoctorlovescats 1 month ago
it's true!
vincent314ljm 1 month ago
I loved the episode The Runaway Bride
ISawItAndIMissedIt 1 month ago
It was a busy day and the doctor was trying to save the ponds
whotuber61 1 month ago
It was a busy day and the doctor was trying to save the ponds
whotuber61 1 month ago
Rule 1: The Doctor lies.
operageek65 1 month ago 26
"Iv'e never met anyone who wasen't important.... Except Donna Noble, even though she kind-a saved the universe... She's stealing my style!"
TheAfroThunder1 2 months ago
Weird how she turned out to be the most important person in all of creation...
basically, anytime he says that someone isn't important, it makes the universe snap to attention and MAKE the person he's talking about very important indeed.
eleriel 2 months ago
saw these two specails in a mini marathon together and when I saw the Smith clip I thought of that clip exactly :)
AuslandCharlie 2 months ago
When he said " ive never met anyone who wasnt important" and the way he said it, inmidiatelty assumed he meant about this.
Nikklas57 2 months ago
Yes it's a real mistake because the doctor can't learn can he? MADNESS!
DeltaMetroid1 2 months ago
Or its a change in writer...
OhWiseSam 2 months ago
Quick easy answer: Rule #1: The Doctor lies.
That's Steven Moffat's inspired solution to Doctor Who continuity gaffes, threaded throughout the 11th Doctor's run.
captaingrim1 2 months ago
Did anyone else catch the doctor losing the British accent a bit?
killbotvii 2 months ago
@killbotvii never heard of a british accent, it's either english/scots/welsh or irish, but never british
johnFP1966 2 months ago
@killbotvii scots/english/welsh/irish but never a British accent
johnFP1966 2 months ago 2
@killbotvii It must have been hard for david though.
missjessiebarry 2 months ago
Don't think there's any real contradiction. Two slightly different sense of important, one relative, the second ultimate (the first in the video actually).
The way the character dismisses the girl, who is in quite a distressing situation, as "not important is cold and flippant and the Eleventh Doctor rightly calls it out, by pointing out the fact that ultimately no one is "unimportant", and he does it brilliantly.
rmilrta 2 months ago
Another RTD mess up
Typical
Smallvillenerd 2 months ago
Lol
StickMarsChannel 2 months ago
She was, he just didn't know it yet
Izlandzadi14 2 months ago
It's because when he regenerates, he also change personality so he may have different opinions about the importance of people. If you watch seriously, you would know that Tenth hates guns although Eleven doesn't have any problem with it.
toffeechaton 2 months ago
Brilliant. Utterly brilliant. Some came back to bite him in the butt :D
tardismole 2 months ago
RULE 1 THE DOCTOR LIES
TerminatorGary 2 months ago 35
lol
ChewyTheEpicWookie 2 months ago
he has just brainwashed.
CyberTimelord 2 months ago
haha :d lol!
Redbrodie16 2 months ago
Turns out Donna was important, though.
ThisMakayla 2 months ago
oh boy i NEVER noticed that
ArisonaThemare 2 months ago
He says the same thing about the crew in Waters of Mars. Its probably more the Time Lord Victorious stuff that changed him than Donna.
GetterRay 2 months ago
10 was the rude and not ginger one
pointyobject 2 months ago
Donna changed him. and 11 is much more positive than 10. 10 was slightly emo
superherom03 2 months ago 5
@superherom03 I would disagree. I found the 10th to be more subdued then the 11th is.
darkironyoshi 2 months ago
Thers also another mistake int eh same spisode, when 11 goes over to the control and Kazran say there "icomorphic" 11 says that cant happen, that its not real but the MAsters laer screwdriver was icomorphic, becaseu 10 tried to use it and failed
TheStalkerNinja 2 months ago
@TheStalkerNinja That's not really a mistake either, cos the Doctor talks a lot of smack to confuse his opponents. Obfuscating stupidity is one of his tricks of the trade.
GoldenTalesGeek 2 months ago
I think its because 10 learns from Adelade Brook (waters of mars) how dangerous it can be to think of people being more important than others, after he claims hes saved a few 'little people' and she shows him hes going down a dark path with his way of thinking. so 11 is actually making a point, more to himself than anything, that he believes that everyone is equally important in time and space.
doctorofthe12thkind 2 months ago
To be fair, I think Eleven was being a bit snarky to Kazran Sardick, so it's not really a "mistake" per se. :P
GoldenTalesGeek 2 months ago
Hahahaha!
ThatMovieGuy77 2 months ago
He changed his mind after all that Donna did
Brownbirdfeather 2 months ago
Not politically important, not a famous or well known (influential to many) type of person. I think this video shouldn't be taken too seriously, just two scenes, put out of context, together for a laugh.
TristanFear 2 months ago 2
lol. XD Apparently Donna punched him in the face before she left. XD lol.
fleuve0styx 3 months ago
WOW! 10,000! Views! Thanks everyone when I made this I did not think it was even that good.....
Puffycheeks288 3 months ago 9
he did find out that she was important later on
Destro7000 3 months ago
STUPID STEVEN MOFFAT!!!!!
HE CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT HE HAS WROTE IN HIS PRESENT TIMES!!!!
bobfromthenorth 3 months ago
@bobfromthenorth
Given that Moffat's name isn't RTD, I don't see how he would remember what he didn't write. It was RTD's mistake to write a line like 'not important' to begin with.
project2501b 3 months ago
@bobfromthenorth Never ever EVER call Steven Moffat stupid. EVER.
MollyLaughForLife 3 months ago
@bobfromthenorth did he write that ep? i thought it was RTD
mlgnerd13 3 months ago
@bobfromthenorth did he write that i thought it was rtd
mlgnerd13 3 months ago
No contradiction - context is all. He's playing mind games with Donna.
phnompenhandy 3 months ago
And 10 was an arrogant randy vengeful god.
farshnuke 3 months ago
he he ha ha
triroa 3 months ago
But he does find out later that she is EXTREMELY clever and important
TheHPExperiment 3 months ago
Rule 1, The Doctor lies.
Coldheart322 3 months ago 11
@Coldheart322 Agreed. Plus that could have been his way of being cheeky or inspiring her. I wouldn't call it a movie mistake
forthecause 3 months ago
Plus lets not forget he first met Donna, when she just shwoed up in the TARDIS right after the big goodbye in Doomsday so its fair to say he wasn't in the best of moods
227060 3 months ago
I'm sure it's been said, but just in case... Rule number one: the Doctor lies.
shimkoan 3 months ago
he meant earth-wise
Serelenntidude 3 months ago
yeah, i love DW more than almost any other show, and i know they have different personalities in this situation, but the truth is that this show has a ton plot inconsistencies. but they make up for it in amazing characters and dialogue.
ModestlyAwesomer 3 months ago
@ModestlyAwesomer And the fact that Time Travel doesn't need to make sense.
johnthebull 3 months ago
@ModestlyAwesomer any given episode has inconsistencies so i dunno why we fans get so hung up on inconsistencies within seasons, eras, or the whole 50 years even
227060 3 months ago
You realize he just doesn't realize how important Donna is yet right? :I;; it was just what he thought at first and learned from that first judgment, because he does say that Donna is important later on, so he has in fact never met an unimportant person.
MewKimmy 3 months ago 91
@MewKimmy Of course I know that I only uploaded this because it is just the thing people will watch on Youtube and comment on, just as you did. :P
Puffycheeks288 3 months ago 8
@Puffycheeks288 trollololol :)
bluelizard81 2 months ago
@MewKimmy But he doesn't know who Abigail was.
TheFamilySlitheen 1 month ago
Take a look on the episode "Stolen Earth" and tell after it that Donnan Nobel was unimportent XD
Akela002 3 months ago
This is the difference between Moffat writing the Doctor and Davies writing about the Doctor--Moffat's Doctor seems to care more about individuals and Davies' Doctor was stuck in a flip-flopping state of condemning humanity as a whole one minute and then adulating it the same way the next. Moffat's has more consistency.
BrokenTourniquet 3 months ago
contradiction much
flyingtardis 3 months ago
Different Doctors, different personalities :-)
theguylambert 3 months ago
11 FTW
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Puffycheeks288 3 months ago 2
that's the difference between Ten and Eleven. Also he meant more a kind of 'not especially important to society' kind of thing, like, not the prime minister, etc.
Philoishness 4 months ago 2
Rule number 1, the Doctor Lies!
SaveDWC 4 months ago 44
@SaveDWC And the important question: which one was the lie? Were they both lies?
Decimaster321 3 weeks ago
LOL
terriblethomas101 4 months ago
pfffff....hypocrite! :P
OwlCityFan26 4 months ago
I see your point. But I think the meaning of what eleven said, is that every single living person in the world in important. Whereas ten probably just meant that Donna didn't seem specifically important. If you get what I mean.
EverChangingShadow 4 months ago 5
Lol mind rape
TDOTSE1 4 months ago
He was just thinking out loud/being blunt/annoyed at her at the time, he didn't *really* think anyone's not important. and even if he had. he'd surely learned from that after she saved the universe....
KendrixTermina 4 months ago
lol.
FrazzlledCuRt117 4 months ago
Doctor learns from his past - hence why, after the Time War, he was a lot more violent towards Daleks. And after having met Rose, he became a very anti-violence person. And after spending so long around humans, he's actually come to quite like us! :)
CaptainAndyman 4 months ago 3
@CaptainAndyman ...And after "Journey's end" and everything he lost there, he's once again quite tired of everyone's favourite pepperpots - by "Victory of the Daleks", he wanted them wiped out of the sky for good... Can't blame him after being forced to basically mindrape one of his closest friends...
KendrixTermina 4 months ago
He thought she wasn't important. He was wrong.
/solved
ahaetulla 4 months ago 3
He obviously learnt from that mistake. Good thing too. The way I see it, that's the main theme of the series; even the mist insignificant seeming individual can be the mist important man woman or other in the universe, they just need a moment to shine.
Eliserose95 5 months ago
Different Doctor, Different Attitude
p0nkub0x 5 months ago
"For one shining moment, she was the most important woman in the whole, wide universe." *tear*
kupkakeluvr1727 5 months ago 8
But for one shining moment, she was the most important person in all of creation. *tear*
kupkakeluvr1727 5 months ago
but she tuned out to be important, Doctor's Mistake
34BestBuds43 5 months ago 80
@34BestBuds43 *looks at amount of likes* *doesnt like comment even tho he wants to*
KarstenOkk 2 months ago
thats the whole point no one is "not Important"
its not a mistake it's a lesson
Domianisti90 5 months ago
Everyone knows the Doctor contradicts himself ALL THE TIME!
TheGallianthe 5 months ago
Ha ha lool
emilyweimarxx 6 months ago
I think it's out of context, by 'important' the Tenth Doctor meant on a huge scale - it might be expected that the Racnoss would only manipulate and interfere with somebody important or with authority over other people, if you understand me :) The Doctor himself, though, would view Donna as important to him.
Scarperguy 6 months ago
Even RTD made a mistake with this one. First calling her NOT important only to later say he met her twice (the only one in the whole wide world) and the whole parallel earth thing in Turn Left.
stijnhommes 6 months ago 3
@stijnhommes turn left, what a paronia
Laudeverd 5 months ago
Sounds like he's learned his lesson since that temp from Chiswick became the most important woman in the universe. :D
BuffyFan81886 6 months ago 145