Hey... i've been a fan of yours for a long time, but from some months ago, you're taking TOO LONG analyzing games, recording videos that are WAY TOO LONG, too much speculation of what could've been, 1 hour videos are exhausting. Go back to 20-minutes-long videos, please. Sincerely yours.
@Yornek1 He does chessworld (website - google it) for a living. It's not easy for him, so feel free to join for free (and maybe even become a full member for a small fee) to help him out! (:
Nice work! Nice analysis. I think though you should have mentioned whites tactics against potential Black king moves on 34.Qa1+ Kb4 35. Qb2+ and now nice moves if Black tries to escape via a5. Say, 35... Ka5? 36.Qa3+ Qa4 37. Rxb5+!! ( I guess its worth the double exclamation mark:)) 37... Kxb5 38. Bf1!. Now if Black tries to safe his Queen with 38... Ka5?? he gets mated. 39. Qc5+ and 40. Qxb5# :)
Don't listen to the idiot who said to keep the videos under 30 minutes. In depth analysis videos are great, especially with someone like you doing the commentary. Besides, with games like this, you could spend way more than an hour analysing. Great stuff as always KC.
I remember the first presentation of this game with those annoying glitches,I must say i am thrilled u have reworked that astonishing clash of giants,thank u very much for this brilliancy hour of chess.It was interesting to move along with all continuations and try to reveal all resources available for Kasparov.
Thanks for this great video. I ask me the question: How deep did Kasparow calculate as he played for example Rhe1? I mean it looks, that it is necessary to calculate it until Qxf6 or something like that. What do you think how deep they calculate in such games?
It's a bit ironic that there was a quote about not having to take material as it isn't checkers, yet the move cxd4 (taking the rook) was not questioned or checked on the engine at all! I remember reading that Kb6, attacking the knight, was a potential refutation on Rxd4. Would like to see the machines analysis of that move.
@SBGiffy Yes I noticed that to my shock and horror after uploading the video and checking then other annotations of the game. I did put a mention of it in the PGN which is in the description of this video, but I may do a reply video about it soon.
This is a pretty scary game to say the least. Chasm of material down without compensation on the left and right of Kasparov's best moves. One may wonder if Kasparov knows the continuance since the very first rook sac or is he taking a very big risk hoping Topalov can't defend the onslaught? Or is he just baiting traps and luckily finding resources along the way as each traps was avoided? Either way, both players played their heart out on this one. Good job at showing that KC.
You should focus on your tactics more, you understand positional play. You would be much better if you focused more on theory and improving you tactical ability.
that game was epic! white moved with extreme precision the whole way. good job @kingscrusher by showing all the possible variations and follow-ups with the engine! it really helps me understand/learn whats going on.
Anand is much better player than what you think. He only lost to Kasparov, but not to Topolov or Kramnick or Karpov. You should try to give enough respect.
Anand beat Veselin Topalov 28 to 16, with 58 draw
Anand beat Vladimir Kramnik 25 to 16, with 114 draws
Anand beat Anatoli Karpov 31 to 12, with 49 draws
@dugalam Hold on - you should be using chessgames(dot) com and use "Anand vs Topalov" (top search box) - to distinguish the results. Here is a Report for example:
Classical games: Viswanathan Anand beat Veselin Topalov 17 to 13, with 41 draws.
Including rapid/exhibition games: Viswanathan Anand beat Veselin Topalov 28 to 16, with 58 draws.
Only rapid/exhibition games: Viswanathan Anand beat Veselin Topalov 11 to 3, with 17 draws.
As you can see on classical time control , the gap is less
@dugalam As you can see from these results, the classical time control shows not too much difference between Topalov and Kramnik. Karpov is of course playing well past his peak of the 80's where he totally dominated. But Kasparov has a huge margin over Anand. So where was my lack of respect in this video for Anand - he was mentioned as one of the top players in the final parts of the video when I mentioned Topalov's interview about Kasparov when he beat Kasparov in Kasparov's final career game.
@dugalam Okay I am lost here - how am i not giving Anand enough respect?! I even mention Anand's Qc5 in this video. I mention the world championship match Topalov had with Anand, which i indicate as "unfortunately for him" referring to Topalov, he lost to Anand. The video is a game between Kasparov and Topalov - I think a lot of people doing this video wouldn't have mentioned Anand as much surely as this video?!
@kingscrusher don't mind them.You're doing a great job and you're doing a lot for chess nowdays.Keep it up and ignore people who do not appreciate your efforts:).Cheers from Romania
@kingscrusher What it look to me is you used his name to show the greatness of Topalov and Kasparov. I would rather say Anand outplayed Topalov to win the WC, and he is next only to Kasparov, anyways that is my perception. Thanks for answering to the comments. You are doing an excellent job to the Chess fans by posting these excellent videos, keep doing we are enjoying a lot. Try to keep a game analysis under 30 min. Thank you.
@szidahou There is more to "advantage" than strict technical evaluation, when evaluated by a machine 500 rating points in advance of the players contesting the game. If the annotator says slight advantage, in my experience he is generally basing his perception on the playability of the position for the involved players as much as the absolute computer-understood pros and cons. You may have a case in this instance, but not necessarily so.
that Be6 stunner after Anands suggestion Qc5 Qxf6 Qd6 is probably the most mysterious brilliance I've ever seen :D. What the heck I still don't get it. It's NOT simply counterintuitive, its out of this world lol.
however, there is a key variation I quickly want to show, starting with 30..Rhe8 31.Rb6 Ra8 32.Bf1 Rec8! 33. Qxc8! Qd1+ (Rxc8 Rxa6#) 34.Ka2 Qd5+ 35.Bc4! Qxc4+ 36.Qxc4 bxc4 37.Rxf6 Ra7 White is a pawn up in the rookendgame, and is probably winning, e.g. 38.Rc6 a5 39.Rxc4 Re7 40.Kb2 Re2 41.h4 with th thread of Rc7 (e.g. 41..Re3? 42. Rc7 +-)
This endgame at 48:20 I analyzed, and white seems to be winning there, but you need great depth there.Cheers!
yes, have a great new year indeed and thanks a million for covering a kasparov game - he is just an amazing exponent of the game because of the depth he sees. Actually, I think you can reach such levels too, just because you love the game so much, as it shows from all of your videos. Keep up the fun in the games and have a nice day and a great year!
@trixapete Houdini evaluation of 0.00 was made on move 29 @ depth 18 assuming white would continue with 30 Qc7. Kasparov actually played 30 Rxb7. It became a different line. The evaluation of +0.48 you mention was found at depth 20 after a different line was played, thus making sense.
That was beautiful. It takes a both a great player and a high calibre opponent for games like this to happen. Topalov was pretty much perfect for most of the game, but Kasparov kept finding threats and new resources. It feels like he would have crushed anyone--indeed, any computer--on this day. Who would ever dare that rook sac?
Amazing game, great analysis. It's amazing how these Masters kept finding the top moves that a computer program a decade later finds as the top moves. Unreal.
Thanks for another great second treatment of another classic game.
Hey... i've been a fan of yours for a long time, but from some months ago, you're taking TOO LONG analyzing games, recording videos that are WAY TOO LONG, too much speculation of what could've been, 1 hour videos are exhausting. Go back to 20-minutes-long videos, please. Sincerely yours.
raymondrossell 15 hours ago
hey Kingcrusher what's ur profession. u dothis chess thing for a living?
Yornek1 1 month ago
@Yornek1 He does chessworld (website - google it) for a living. It's not easy for him, so feel free to join for free (and maybe even become a full member for a small fee) to help him out! (:
Blixish 1 week ago
Credit goes to Topalov for munching the rook.
mattiassollerman 1 month ago
Nice work! Nice analysis. I think though you should have mentioned whites tactics against potential Black king moves on 34.Qa1+ Kb4 35. Qb2+ and now nice moves if Black tries to escape via a5. Say, 35... Ka5? 36.Qa3+ Qa4 37. Rxb5+!! ( I guess its worth the double exclamation mark:)) 37... Kxb5 38. Bf1!. Now if Black tries to safe his Queen with 38... Ka5?? he gets mated. 39. Qc5+ and 40. Qxb5# :)
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Don't listen to the idiot who said to keep the videos under 30 minutes. In depth analysis videos are great, especially with someone like you doing the commentary. Besides, with games like this, you could spend way more than an hour analysing. Great stuff as always KC.
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AKnobGoblin 1 month ago
26:58 totally distracted me :DD
hegemege 2 months ago
this like buttom is a joke...How can you just "like" this video?!...awesome video, thaks a lot
selfoe 2 months ago
I would love to hear a little bit more about Topalov's speciality in the exchange sacrifice, I think that would be fascinating if you do requests.
McGrainBoxing 2 months ago
Nicely done sir. This just about made my day.
McGrainBoxing 2 months ago
Great analysis Kingscrusher! This video was very well prepared and entertaining throughout.
cubs12day25 2 months ago
If instead of, after Rxd4, cxd4, can anyone give a line whereby white can get an advantage if black replies Kb6?
Kxa3 was just a massive blunder.
thespacialone 2 months ago
Very Nice Video
KchessK 2 months ago
Come on KC, get on and upload your radio show! :)
I'm not being rude, I am just looking forward to listening to it!
Callaz3 2 months ago
I remember the first presentation of this game with those annoying glitches,I must say i am thrilled u have reworked that astonishing clash of giants,thank u very much for this brilliancy hour of chess.It was interesting to move along with all continuations and try to reveal all resources available for Kasparov.
Herkull14 2 months ago
A monument of epic ingenuity and unmatched proportion. That is one of the deepest games of all time.
LoFidelityBeatz 2 months ago
Thanks for this great video. I ask me the question: How deep did Kasparow calculate as he played for example Rhe1? I mean it looks, that it is necessary to calculate it until Qxf6 or something like that. What do you think how deep they calculate in such games?
Kupferhans 2 months ago
@Kupferhans Please see response video - "How many moves do you calculate ahead?"
kingscrusher 2 months ago
@kingscrusher Wow great, thanks! That helped me a lot.
Kupferhans 2 months ago
It's a bit ironic that there was a quote about not having to take material as it isn't checkers, yet the move cxd4 (taking the rook) was not questioned or checked on the engine at all! I remember reading that Kb6, attacking the knight, was a potential refutation on Rxd4. Would like to see the machines analysis of that move.
SBGiffy 2 months ago
@SBGiffy Yes I noticed that to my shock and horror after uploading the video and checking then other annotations of the game. I did put a mention of it in the PGN which is in the description of this video, but I may do a reply video about it soon.
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@SBGiffy Video response covers this now - cheers, K
kingscrusher 2 months ago
This is a pretty scary game to say the least. Chasm of material down without compensation on the left and right of Kasparov's best moves. One may wonder if Kasparov knows the continuance since the very first rook sac or is he taking a very big risk hoping Topalov can't defend the onslaught? Or is he just baiting traps and luckily finding resources along the way as each traps was avoided? Either way, both players played their heart out on this one. Good job at showing that KC.
xdragon2k 2 months ago
@KC, Great video as usual, could you upload more Tal games by any chance ?
hishnick79 2 months ago
stumbled black lol *racist* just kiddin
YsnipezYMw2 2 months ago
You should focus on your tactics more, you understand positional play. You would be much better if you focused more on theory and improving you tactical ability.
YsnipezYMw2 2 months ago
that game was epic! white moved with extreme precision the whole way. good job @kingscrusher by showing all the possible variations and follow-ups with the engine! it really helps me understand/learn whats going on.
BassRunner5 2 months ago
Anand is much better player than what you think. He only lost to Kasparov, but not to Topolov or Kramnick or Karpov. You should try to give enough respect.
Anand beat Veselin Topalov 28 to 16, with 58 draw
Anand beat Vladimir Kramnik 25 to 16, with 114 draws
Anand beat Anatoli Karpov 31 to 12, with 49 draws
dugalam 2 months ago
@dugalam Hold on - you should be using chessgames(dot) com and use "Anand vs Topalov" (top search box) - to distinguish the results. Here is a Report for example:
Classical games: Viswanathan Anand beat Veselin Topalov 17 to 13, with 41 draws.
Including rapid/exhibition games: Viswanathan Anand beat Veselin Topalov 28 to 16, with 58 draws.
Only rapid/exhibition games: Viswanathan Anand beat Veselin Topalov 11 to 3, with 17 draws.
As you can see on classical time control , the gap is less
kingscrusher 2 months ago
@dugalam Anand vs Kramnik follows:
Classical games: Viswanathan Anand beat Vladimir Kramnik 9 to 8, with 67 draws.
Including rapid/exhibition games: Viswanathan Anand beat Vladimir Kramnik 25 to 16, with 114 draws.
Only rapid/exhibition games: Viswanathan Anand beat Vladimir Kramnik 16 to 8, with 47 draws.
kingscrusher 2 months ago
@dugalam Anand vs Karpov follows:
Classical games: Viswanathan Anand beat Anatoli Karpov 17 to 7, with 32 draws.
Including rapid/exhibition games: Viswanathan Anand beat Anatoli Karpov 31 to 12, with 49 draws.
Only rapid/exhibition games: Viswanathan Anand beat Anatoli Karpov 14 to 5, with 17 dr
kingscrusher 2 months ago
@dugalam BTW Kasparov vs Anand follows now:
Classical games: Garry Kasparov beat Viswanathan Anand 16 to 6, with 32 draws.
Including rapid/exhibition games: Garry Kasparov beat Viswanathan Anand 26 to 8, with 43 draws.
Only rapid/exhibition games: Garry Kasparov beat Viswanathan Anand 10 to 2, with 11 draws.
kingscrusher 2 months ago
@dugalam As you can see from these results, the classical time control shows not too much difference between Topalov and Kramnik. Karpov is of course playing well past his peak of the 80's where he totally dominated. But Kasparov has a huge margin over Anand. So where was my lack of respect in this video for Anand - he was mentioned as one of the top players in the final parts of the video when I mentioned Topalov's interview about Kasparov when he beat Kasparov in Kasparov's final career game.
kingscrusher 2 months ago
@kingscrusher 5:58 and 35:58
good analysis though.......
dugalam 2 months ago
@dugalam Okay I am lost here - how am i not giving Anand enough respect?! I even mention Anand's Qc5 in this video. I mention the world championship match Topalov had with Anand, which i indicate as "unfortunately for him" referring to Topalov, he lost to Anand. The video is a game between Kasparov and Topalov - I think a lot of people doing this video wouldn't have mentioned Anand as much surely as this video?!
kingscrusher 2 months ago
@kingscrusher don't mind them.You're doing a great job and you're doing a lot for chess nowdays.Keep it up and ignore people who do not appreciate your efforts:).Cheers from Romania
1987DeLarge 2 months ago
@kingscrusher What it look to me is you used his name to show the greatness of Topalov and Kasparov. I would rather say Anand outplayed Topalov to win the WC, and he is next only to Kasparov, anyways that is my perception. Thanks for answering to the comments. You are doing an excellent job to the Chess fans by posting these excellent videos, keep doing we are enjoying a lot. Try to keep a game analysis under 30 min. Thank you.
dugalam 2 months ago
Absolutely First Class Chess Annotation!!!
Tryfon is a Chess Research Scientist. Outstanding!!!
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I really wish you wouldnt call +0.04 "slightly better"
I would argue it should be called _equal_
szidahou 2 months ago
@szidahou There is more to "advantage" than strict technical evaluation, when evaluated by a machine 500 rating points in advance of the players contesting the game. If the annotator says slight advantage, in my experience he is generally basing his perception on the playability of the position for the involved players as much as the absolute computer-understood pros and cons. You may have a case in this instance, but not necessarily so.
thespacialone 2 months ago
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szidahou 2 months ago
that Be6 stunner after Anands suggestion Qc5 Qxf6 Qd6 is probably the most mysterious brilliance I've ever seen :D. What the heck I still don't get it. It's NOT simply counterintuitive, its out of this world lol.
randalph 2 months ago
great video! many variations behind the scene :)
however, there is a key variation I quickly want to show, starting with 30..Rhe8 31.Rb6 Ra8 32.Bf1 Rec8! 33. Qxc8! Qd1+ (Rxc8 Rxa6#) 34.Ka2 Qd5+ 35.Bc4! Qxc4+ 36.Qxc4 bxc4 37.Rxf6 Ra7 White is a pawn up in the rookendgame, and is probably winning, e.g. 38.Rc6 a5 39.Rxc4 Re7 40.Kb2 Re2 41.h4 with th thread of Rc7 (e.g. 41..Re3? 42. Rc7 +-)
This endgame at 48:20 I analyzed, and white seems to be winning there, but you need great depth there.Cheers!
matttttes 2 months ago
yes, have a great new year indeed and thanks a million for covering a kasparov game - he is just an amazing exponent of the game because of the depth he sees. Actually, I think you can reach such levels too, just because you love the game so much, as it shows from all of your videos. Keep up the fun in the games and have a nice day and a great year!
imosescu 2 months ago
I wonder how clearly Kasparov saw this game in his mind before making the moves.
WalkerH4O2 2 months ago
Epic game is epic.
lllevokelll 2 months ago
how can the engine say it is dead equal, then you play the engine line and suddenly its 0.48 for white?? see at 40:01
trixapete 2 months ago
@trixapete Houdini evaluation of 0.00 was made on move 29 @ depth 18 assuming white would continue with 30 Qc7. Kasparov actually played 30 Rxb7. It became a different line. The evaluation of +0.48 you mention was found at depth 20 after a different line was played, thus making sense.
amodelchucrut 2 months ago
Hahaha, you still can not pronounce Pirc.
oxiigen 2 months ago
@oxiigen sounds fine to me
wmike1987 2 months ago
@wmike1987 IPA: /Piɪts/
oxiigen 2 months ago
That was beautiful. It takes a both a great player and a high calibre opponent for games like this to happen. Topalov was pretty much perfect for most of the game, but Kasparov kept finding threats and new resources. It feels like he would have crushed anyone--indeed, any computer--on this day. Who would ever dare that rook sac?
Thanks, KC! Great video!
glenm99 2 months ago
that move Rxd4 jumped into my head instantly, i'm proud of myself : )
krzywekredki 2 months ago
1h video....wow, ill go get popcorn
siggi8889 2 months ago 2
nice
Nimzowitz 2 months ago
thx for the re upload tryfon. Have a wonderful 2012!
amodelchucrut 2 months ago
Amazing game, great analysis. It's amazing how these Masters kept finding the top moves that a computer program a decade later finds as the top moves. Unreal.
Thanks for another great second treatment of another classic game.
Nola213 2 months ago
I had always hoped you'd do another recording of this one! Thanks!!
boarass 2 months ago 10
Yes, quite a good game. Immortal games just arent very flashy these days lol. I have to admit, I prefer the romantic era of chess.
Dymdez 2 months ago
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hypnoxounet 2 months ago
Can I just say... you are a great teacher. Thanks.
HarryPotterDude1000 2 months ago 16
Batman type moves. :)
Beautiful game.
AmosNoLandsMan 2 months ago
remember this one... showing kaspys greatness
HeadscissorLuver 2 months ago