IN GREECE ARVANITES ORTHDOX ARE THE AUTHENTIC DESCENDANT OF ANCIENT EPIROTS. BUT MOUSLIM ARVANITES ARE TURK ALBANIANS, AND TRAITORS OF GREECE AND CONQUERORS OF EPIROS.
YOU ARE CONFUSING THE MOTHER TONGUE WITH A LANGUAGE YOU SPEAK IN ORDER TO COMMUNICATE WITH FOREIGNERS.YOU SEE MATE,THESE BOLLOCKS WILL NEVER LET YOU SEE THE TRUTH.YOUR EYES MIGHT BE WHITE 'N BLUE,BUT HISTORY IS NOT.
ARVANITES=MOTHER TONGUE ARVANITIKA=ARVANITIKA=TOSK ALBANIAN DIALECT... Any other ''proof'' mate?
@AlbananHistorian DO NOT TRY TO PERSUADE ME, JUST TRY TO PERSUADE THE 400.000 GREEK ARVANITES. THERE IS NOT GREECE WITHOUT GREEK ARVANITES - EPIROTS BRO.
SCANDERBEG SPOKE AND WROTE GREEK BECAUSE OF THE BYZANTIUM,OF WHICH AFTER 630 A.D. ITS OFFICIAL LANGUAGE WAS THE GREEK ONE IDIOT.HE ALSO SPOKE ALBANIAN OF COURSE AS MENTIONED IN HIS BIOGRAPHY.GIVE ME ONE BOOK YOU FUCKFACE,ONE BOOK
@AlbananHistorian I read that he was speaking Albanian (perhaps he was an arvanites) but he was versed of Greek of course as an educated Arvanites, and he was pulling his origin from Epirots. Now what is the meaning of Arvanites is a big question.
@KRONOSELLAS Arvanites are not from Epirus.They come from Arvanon,that is why they call themselves Arvanites.DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IN ALBANIAN ''ΑΡΒΑΝΙΤΗΣ=ΑΛΒΑΝΟΣ'' (Arvanitis=Albanian).DON'T YOU KNOW THAT GREEKS UNTILL THE 15TH CENTURY DID NOT REFER TO ALBANIANS AS ALBANIANS,BUT ARVANITES/ARBERESHE???What is left to talk about?
@AlbananHistorian ARVANITES WERE EPIROTES WHO RESIDED BETWEN GENOUSOS RIVER (SKOUMPIS) AND THE TOMAROS MOUNTAIN. ILLYRIA , MY BRO. WAS NORTHERN OF GENOUSOS RIVER AND FROM LIHNTIS (OHRIDA) LAKE AND NORTHEAST. ILLYRIA IS DIFFERENT REGION FROM EPIROS. THEREFORE KASTRIOTIS NEMED HIS SELF AS AN EPIROTAN AND NOT AS AN ILLYRIO
@AlbananHistorian For theirselfes, Arvanites of Greece, (and for the other Greeks) this question is answered, they are more Greeks than Greeks and they know their origin from Ancient Epirots-Greeks) They adopted the dialect because of relations with Albanians.
@KRONOSELLAS Who a gives a fuck about relations mate??? Greeks had also relations with Slavs.I do not see any Greek populations adopting Slavic as their MOTHER TONGUE.
YOU ARE FORGETTING THAT THE ARVANITES WERE NOT BILLINGUAL.Arvanites spoke ALBANIAN as their MOTHER TONGUE,and GREEK because of the BYZANTIUM whose OFFICIAL LANGUAGE was the GREEK one.
@AlbananHistorian MARCO BOTSARI HAD WRITTEN A VERY INTERESTING LEXICON ARVANITIKA-GREEK. THAT HAD 1490 WORDS IN ARVANITIKA AND 1700 IN GREEK. THESE WORDS HE KNEW AND WAS USING ONE SIMPLE PEASANT,ONE CATTLE-BREEDER - [TSOMPANIS] OR A FARMER, AS THEY WERE ALL ARVANITES . BUT ONE EDUCATED ARVANITES WAS VERSED OF THE GREEK LANGUAGE AS WELL AS OTHER GREEKS. IT WAS NOT A LANGUAGE WITH 1500 WORDS!! BRO
@AlbananHistorian THERE ARE SLAVOFONIC GREEKS IN MAKEDONIA, BEFORE 100 YEARS THEY CALLED THEM AS GREECOMANI, BECAUSE OF THEIR THE STABLE GREEK CONSCIENCE (GREECO - MANI= GREEK WITH MANIA). THERE ARE ALSO AND GREEK VLACH, IN THE GREEK STATE, BUT ALSO AND IN ALBANIA STATE. SEARCH IF YOU WANT.
NOT TO MENTION FOREIGN HISTORIANS LIKE THE FRENCH EDUARD GIBBON OR EVEN THE WORLD'S GREATEST ENCYCLOPEDIA PAPYRUS LARUS BRITANNICA.BOTH THESE SOURCES MENTION THAT THE FATHER OF GEORGE KASTRIOTI WAS GJON KASTRIOTI,AN ALBANIAN LORD OF THE NORTH.IDIOT.HOW DID EPIRUS GET IN THE PICTURE.SCANDERBEG FOUGHT AGAINST GREEKS UNDER THE COMMANDS OF THE TURKISH SOULTAN.BUT ONLY WHEN ASKED TO FIGHT AGAINST ALBANIANS,HE DISOBEYED AND FOUGHT ALONGSIDE HIS ALBANIAN MEN.
@AlbananHistorian listen kid I don't wanna fight, I feel to sorry for your ignorence and stupidity!! His father's name was Ioannis, his last name is Kastriotis wich is TITALLY Greek, He only wrote and spoke Greek, He fought for the Byzantine Empire, and that's all.
The boys that fought with him were most defenatly Albanians, but those were his followers. Albanians always fought for the Ottoman empire. Your government schools toght you propaganda. Take care my little gypsy bitch
It is natural to be Greek you idiot since these were BYZANTINE people idiot.For example Simeon Ouresis is TOTALLY GREEK IDIOT but he was Serb.What the fuck does Ioannis has to do.If someone named John comes in Greece,after 3,4 years for example they will call him Ioannis.I repeat you ignorant fuckface propagandist,that his name was GJON AS MENTIONED IN BRITANNICA,too.So all the Serb lords of Epirus were Greeks according t your logic.IDIOT STUPID AND WHAT ELSE ...
here we go again! The Illyrians were an ancient (NATIVE) people of the land wich is now called Albania. No disrespect to the Albanian people witch I respect, but the original Albanians first came to Sicily witch later migrated to modern day Albania. The original Albanians, come from Asia minor nothwest of Armenia. As for Skanderbey, wich is a Turkish word, discribing him as Alexander bey, because he reminded the Turks of Alexander the great.
He was actualy half Greek, his mother was Serb. TRUTH!
@steve81132 Who is going again? All the uneducated people like you who based on antialbanian propaganda would be willing to fart from their nose? What is it that you do not understand? Claudius Ptolemy mentions Albanians in Illyria.Anthropological researches as well as linguistic prove the same.Skanderbeg was an Albanian warrior as stated by all historians.Maybe the history you enjoy reading is the one at internet blogs,but the truth found in books HURTS
@AlbananHistorian If only you opened books with less propaganda!! His name wass Giorgos Kastriotis, and the only thing mentioned by historians was that he was from Epiros. I feel sorry for you and your sorry ass propagantic facts. Were did Claudius Ptolemy ever mention Albanians anywhere? He certainly mentioned Illiryans but never ever, ever mention Albanians! Stop trying to steal every bodys history you jealous bunch of thieving Bastards!! Gypsys have richer history than you!!
My idiot friend.There is a work of Claudius Ptolemy called ΓΕΩΓΡΑΦΙΚΑ (Geographic).He mentions an Illyrian tribe ''Albani'' (Αλβανοι in Greek idiot) and a city of theirs ''Albanopolis'' (Αλβανοπολις in Greek idiot) in CENTRAL ALBANIA.IDIOTIC JACKASS.They were a tribe of Central Albania.Giorgos Kastriotis? hahahahahaha I read the biography of HIS 1SDT BIOGRAPHER in the history museum of Tirana,and he mentions Scanderbeg as the dragon of Albania.Now fuck off with your propaganda idiot
@KRONOSELLAS I do not care my friend.You have to understand that nowadays there are not Greeks,Albanians,Serbs etc. in the sense of ''PURE'' Greeks,Albanians etc. I am talking about Albanians - Illyrians, Ancient Greeks - Modern Greeks as far as these terms are concerned from a general point of view.I am not sure if you know what I mean,and even if you don't,I can explain.
@AlbananHistorian Many Albanians beleive that Tsamuria (Thesprotia of Epiros) is yours and do propaganda. On the same time they over look that in Northern Epiros exist only Greek archaeological monuments. Neither we want or not, (you and me) we have unpaid bills which will define the future of the region of Balkans.
@KRONOSELLAS Define what? Don't you understand that this is not a problem?Don't you see that history is too ''big'',while we are wasting time over dead issues.Mate,your copatriots can barely earn their living,and you are talking about History,Greece and Albania.I support the thesis of a great Greek called RIGAS FERAIOS (Velestinlis).His vision was THE UNITED BALKANS.You know that by maintaining this position you support the American game....
That theory has been proven false; there is not a single evidence to support the Caucasian thesis for Albanian origin.
First of all, our Balkan Albanians aren't even "Albanians" at all, they're Shqiptarët, Scipetars. Therefore, there isn't even an etymological connection to the region of Caucasian Albania, just as there's no connection between the Albanians and the Albanian mountains in Italy, or the Scottish (who are also called Albans)!
The Slavic ethnicity of the Illyrians is also a dead end - especially if you add there the identification of Slavs and Serbs, which is futile, since the Serbs are just one of the Slavic tribes.
The situation further does not go up your hand if we consider the non-Slavic origin of their Serbs and the very likely possibility that they were originally an Irannic people, preferably of the Alans, who was subsequently slavicized.
@IllyriPower THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SUBHUMEN.SLAVS ARE PEOPLE,ALBANIANS ARE PEOPLE,GREEKS ARE PEOPLE ETC. THE THING IS THAT THESE PARTICULAR SLAVS SHOULD NOT FORGE ALBANIAN HISTORY ! AND THEY SHOULD ALSO SAY THAT SLAVS CAME IN THE BALKANS AT THE 7TH CENTURY
@AlbananHistorian "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SUBHUMEN.SLAVS ARE PEOPLE,ALBANIANS ARE PEOPLE,GREEKS ARE PEOPLE ETC." This is what you said. And not much Albanians talk like that.
Once More Time, The Royal Institute Of Sweden, The Most Prestigious Institution In The World Of Languages And Other Doctorates Along With Trinity College And Oxford, Has Published That The Albanian Language Is The Oldest Indo-European Language and the Albanians are the oldest nation in Europe.
The Albanian language has been determined to be the oldest of the European languages by DNA/genes studies at Stanford U.(Luigi Cavalli-Sforza). Serbian scum , Serboi tribe from Caucasus !
The albanian language has nothing to do with old Illyrian. Illyrian is classified as Latin and albanian doesn't even look like that, infact it isn't even Indo-European rather a kavkaz-dialect.
at least you SUBHUMANS ( SLAVS - SLAVES ) are the funniest people of europe , its not you , its your great ignorance that makes you so funny !
in fact Albanian language is influenced very much by Latin language , one time our language was classified as Latin ! our language is Indo - European and is the OLDEST OF IE LANGUAGES !
hey idiot.THE FATHER OF GREEK HISTORIOGRAPHY K. PAPARRIGOPOULOS SAYS THAT THE ALBANIAN IS AN INDOEUROPEAN LANGUAGE.ALSO DO NOT FORGET IDIOT THAT BEFORE TALKING FOR THE ALBANIANS,YOU SHOULD WATCH YOUR OWN COUNTRY.SLAVS CAME HERE IN THE 7TH CENTURY AD AND WERE PREVIOUSLY IN EURASIA. IT IS NOT BAD,IT IS SIMPLY THE TRUTH.IT IS HISTORY,BYE BYE
" The ALBANIANS are the descendants of the population who were known as ILLYRIANS ". - Georigios Aksiotellis, Euangelos Stounos and Georigios Skordos - by GREEK ENCYCLOPEDIA
term "Illyrians" last appears in the historical record in the 7th century AD, referring to a Byzantine garrison operating within the former province. All the remaining tribes except perhaps the Romanized Vlachs were Slavicised in the course of the Middle Ages, while modern Albanian might have descended from a southern Illyrian dialect. In the 19th century, an Illyrian national identity became significant in Croatian nationalism.
@SuperGoranilic jebi se picka ti mater ilirya albania isti suu pickeeeee kad smo bili mi vie i russia i sllavs nigde niste biliii beee pickeeeee you son of the bitch :@
That Albania is Illyria's descendant is widely accepted among historians. Our language bares absolutely no major similarities to any other language in that region or the world (beside Kosovo which is only a different dialect).
@SuperGoranilic you mother fuck we are illyrians albania is illyria ahahahahha of you vill to bee serbia iilyria aa hahahahahhahahahhahahhah but sory serbia was was was i dont now :S serbia exicdet not hahahhahaha ALL THE WORLD NOW BeCauSe ALBANIA IS ILLYRIA And
"those who never come back" and that is a truth coze Albanians really never go back to there fatherland Middle east. Ililyrians have nothing in common with Albanians(Arnauts). Illyrians has been killed by Turks and Albanians- arabs .
Albania before 60 years ,pure muslims from Middle East ! Albanians wear Turbans even today .Albanians are also known as "Arnauts" and "Arnauds"Word - "arnaud" in Arabian language means -deserter,renegate- ! Whitch means that they are Arabian tribe, expeld from Arabia because of their collaboration with Turks. Turks have bring them in Balkans in 15th century.Even Turks call them "arnauts" whitch means "those who never come back" and that is a truth coze A
@JIMY45GR hey gayreek asshole . Arnaut came from Arvanit , Arbanit - Medieval Name for Albanians and Turks took this name from Greeks . try to learn some history , IGNORANT !!!!
Illyrians = Albanians !!
Greeks = EGYPTIANS , TURKS , SLAVS , PONTIANS AND ARVANITES . nothing to do with ancient hellenes .
I dont understand you people's obsession with Illyria.You have nothing to do with Illyria or Illyrians,everybody knows that,you got your first state in 1912!!!
Only Albanians think they're Illyrians,just like only Macedonian Slavs think they're ancient Macedonians.If it wasnt pathetic it'd be stupid!
I do not understand why a SLAV would not speak for his own people who ARRIVED AT THE BALKANS IN the 7th century AD,but speak a lot for other populations,ALBANIANS in particular ! Yes,of course my IGNORANT friend ! The ancient GREEK geographer Claudius Ptolemy who mentions an Illyrian tribe named ''Albanians'' and a city of their ''ALBANOpolis'' is stupid !THE MAJORITY of HISTORIANS that claims Albanians to be either Illyrians or THRACIANS are stupid!The only smart men are you! I G N O R A N C E
@AlbananHistorian I don't think your friend is ignorant but i think its you and stupid as hell. We have nothing to do with Slave as you say. But hey if you want to look stupid keep going like this. You are in the good way
@truditis have you ever asked yourself if you are greek ??? the answer is that you are not greek origin .... greece =albanian,sllav,romanian ,arabic ,thats is greece forget about you race you are not greek anymore look at yourself on the mirror ....
we have an Illyrian language and Illyrian customs . you are obsessed with Albanians thats why you are on every Albanian Illyrian clip to say your fucking bullshits .
95% OF HISTORIANS SAY THAT ALBANIANS ARE THE DIRECT DESCENDANTS OF ILLYRIANS and they are not STUPID like YOU . when we had an empire , culture , civilization ,glory and honor you serb parasites were still not evolved apes on the trees so stfu
@truditis wtf its proofen one ancient walls in greece ritings in ilirian modern albanian but you fag slavs of rusia do not acept it you wanna take it for your self even last night some one told that the greek wandet to take scenderbeg as there own i laved my ass out
@truditis you suna va bitches you are realy trying to steal that from us too you suna va bitches fucking serbian cocksuckers serbians are = rusian ex skave skenderbeg albanian proofen albanian ilirian same language serbian macedion same languege same ritings asrusians you mudafucking dipshit loosers accept it and fuck off
@truditis greeks are fags skinny ass bitches like serbs macedonians ilirians are albanians and its proofen ilirian same languege as albanian so you can suck at that the reasen you hate is is becouse you can back up ore steal the ilirian history thats killing you but greek macedonian serbian alot comon with rusian so that for you uare rusian imigrants that cam in to ilirian countrys we were stupid to alow you race your head up
what? the descendants of cauc. albania (today azerbaijan) are the udi's, who are ethnically and linguistically related to the persians and the armenians. who lives scattered is small groups through dagestan, azerbaijan and armenia and that has nothing to do with albanians who are descendants of the illyrians.
why? because it's widely known that albania has been inhabitated since prehistory, therefore the tiny % of those people that could have came in albania are simply NOT SHQIPETARS.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT FAITH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ORIGIN.YOU IDIOT
YOU FOR EXAMPLE ARE CHRISTIAN,BUT AS A SLAV,YOUR ORIGIN IS FOUND AT THE URALS,AT THE RUSSIAN MOUNTAINS WHICH YOU ORIGINATED FROM.EITHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT,SLAVS HAVE LESS THAN 1500 YEARS OF HISTORY HERE
Faith has everything to do with it...we're native Balkan population and Christianity became a stone of Balkan identity long before you and Turks came here.Thats why even after 500 years of Turkish rule over Balkans the only muslim majority country is Albania,nobody else.There are some Christian Albanians,but overall you're over 90% muslims,and your religion as well as culture are Asian!
@truditis AND YOU SAY THAT BASED ON WHAT? THE MANY YEAR EXPERIENCE YOU HAD IN ALBANIA?? HAHAHAHAHA LISTEN TO ME IDIOT CAUSE FREE HISTORY LESSONS ARE ONCE TAUGHT.MAYBE YOU HAVE NOT HEARD OF A THING CALLED FAITH CONVERTION.IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS,BUT MAYBE YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE IT.FOR EXAMPLE ALBANIANS !!! ALBANIANS YOU IDIOT,WERE CHRISTIANS UNTILL THE 15TH CENTURY.AFTER 500 YEARS OF OTTOMAN INVASION,THERE WERE ONLY 35% CHRISTANS LEFT
Shiptars were always muslims,thats why Turks settled you here!Or do you want me to accept that of all the Balkan people who were under Turkish rule,you were the only ones who somehow almost all converted to islam???Theory you try to prove would mean that you were the biggest pussies and cowards,since you converted the most to islam...so one way or another you end up being worthless!
@truditis ONCE AGAIN IDIOT,LET ME TELL YOU THAT FAITH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ORIGIN.HOW IDIOT CAN YOU BE MAN? HOW CAN PHILOSOPHY AND THEORY APPLY TO ORIGIN? OH JESUS
YOUR LEVEL OF STUPIDITY HAS OVERCOME EVERYONE. UNDERSTAND THIS IDIOT.FAITH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DNA AND ORIGIN. TAKE FOR EXAMPLE MADONNA.THE FACT SHE CONVERTED TO BUDISM,DOES NOT MAKE HER CHINESE,IDIOT.HAHAHAHAHA.SO ACCORDING TO YOU IF SOMEONE FROM SERBIA CONVERTS TO BUDIST HE WILL BE CHINESE? HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH WHAT AN IDIOT
@truditis AND I AM TELLING YOU AGAIN MY SILLY DUMB FRIEND.FAITH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.FOR EXAMPLE IF TOMORROW,STH HAPPENS AND ALL GREEKS CONVERT TO MUSLIM.WHAT DOES IT MEAN? THAT THEY WILL SUDDENLY BE TURKS?? HAHAHAHA...DO NOT MIX DNA AND ORIGIN WITH FILOSOPHY YOU IDIOT.YOUR PEOPLE,THE SERBS FOR EXAMPLE.ONCE AGAIN I HAVE TO TELL YOU YOUR PEOPLE CAME FROM EURASIA TO THE BALKANS AT HE 7TH CENTURY AD.GET OVER IT AND CONTINUE WITH YOUR PATHETIC LIFE
Let me dissaprove one more of your stupid theories.Who are the Turks now???Mostly descendants of islamized Greeks,Serbs,Bulgarians,Armenians,Macedonians,Georgians,Romanians,Ukrainians,etc.
During Ottoman Empire anyone from these people numbered above who converted to islam would embrace Turkish identity cause he would be considered traitor among his own people.Just one example:Sokollu Mehmed Pasha(born a Serb,converts to islam,becomes Turkish Grand Vizier).
@truditis BUT EVEN IF IT HAD TO DO,YOU IDIOT,ALBANIANS WERE CHRISTIANS 100% BEFORE THE 15TH CENTURY AND THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE.EVEN NOW,ABOUT 35% OF ALBANIANS ARE CHRISTIANS (CATHOLIC MOSTLY AND ORTHODOX). IDIOT
I MYSELF AM AN ALBANIAN CHRISTIAN.YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN ON THE OTHER HAND.YOU ARE A NATIONALIST PIG,IDIOT
The first time an albanian race was ever mentioned was in 1050 a.d. Before that there was no record of existing albanians or illyrians for 1000 years. However there was a region near the caspian sea that the byzantines refered to as albania, it was crushed by mongols and many of its inhabitants resettled in areas of the bulkans. Look it up yourself you stupid albos, figure out your own history and stop stealing from others
@SuperPreciousMetal our flag serb flag ...the symbols are taken from the symbol of the byzant empire hahahahaahahaaaaaaa you are so a little bunch of shit idiot
@SuperPreciousMetal our flag serb flag ...the symbols are taken from the symbol of the byzant empire hahahahaahahaaaaaaa you are so a little bunch of shit
@FrealGent black ape? are you forgetting all europeans east and west consider albanians the niggers of europe.... go back to your homeland in azerbajzan, you guys are turning europe into pakistan with your over breeding and dirty life style. NIGGER.
historic albania were been in south of mountain caucasus, turks take the albanians as allies 400 years ago, and placed them to fight for them in balkans =serbia (south serbia=kosovo), illyria (in the borders with greece and serbia), greece (south greece, athens, central greece) and west bulgaria. "Ancient and Later Balkans History from the Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich" one of the top20 universities in the world
Τhe most ignorrant and non-proved comments.There are ZERO proof as far as the things you are stating are concerned ! Anthropological studies prove this,while the MAJORITY of historians believe Albanians are the descendants of the Illyrians.The 2ND MOST RELIABLE theory says that Albanians are THRACIANS ! Caucasus...hahahaha....There are no proof concernig language,origin,traditions,historic references etc. connecting Albanians to Caucasus !
Do not forget that Claudius Ptolemy himself mentions an Illyrian tribe named ''Albanians'' (Αλβανοι),and their town, ''Albanopolis'' (Αλβανοπολις) located in MODERN DAY Central Albania !
croatians and serbians are the closest people to illyrians, you albanians share a common language with people from azerbajzan udish chechens...... where you come from, where your turkish masters brought you from.
It is funny how in the beginning that the Croatians and Albanian and claimed.Illyria as their civilization but disapeared before the birth of Christ. If Croatians and Albanians are both are from Illyria would you not think the language would be: CroAlban Language?
All this greatest Anthropologist and other Academics Worldwide said that Bosniaks are a Illyrian Race and Nativ Balkanpeople: Angel, Bounak, Coon, Debetz, Ewing, Gherassimov, Hasluck, Morant, Levin, Oudaltsev, Poulianos, Tovarev, Koumaris, Wilkes, Paul, Hirt, Weigand, Tomashek, Georgiev, Pushcariu and many many others and then we got the Genetic facts from Igenea, Genograpic, Familytreedna and all the other Genetic Results.
@TheValmirZz your not illyrians,,, your a dumb fucking SHEEPTARD that shares a common language with people from azerbajzan and udish people close to iran.... your the joke of europe and always will be, your turkish masters pulled you monkeys from the other side of the ottoman empire... skenderbeg was half serbian and half greek and your albanian flag was given to you by serbs and serbs gave land to you monkeys around berat modern day albania.... berat former name was belgrad... sheeptarded
'The first undisputed mention of Albanians in the historical record is attested in Byzantine source for the first time in 1079-1080, in a work titled History by Byzantine historian Michael Attaliates, who referred to the Albanoi as having taken part in a revolt against Constantinople in 1043 and to the Arbanitai as subjects of the duke of Dyrrachium.'
they were ancient greeks! woww how dumb can u albanians be it was all apart of the greek empire back then and by the way dont waste ur fukin time tryin to argue
Famous Historian John Wilkes correctly puts Illyrian descendants among contemporary Bosnian. Wilkes hints that Bosnians are slavicized Illyrians and he leans on C.S Coon who insists that Albanians are of mixed Slavic, Thracian, Turkish, Armenoid and Illyrian origin. Wilkes supports the concept of a Bosnia-centered Illyria, proposing that it's actually Bosnia, not Albania, which was Illyria.
@AjlaBosniazka Fuck your mother u picku ta qifsha pidhin e nanes back to caucasus with you muslim Srboi (Boshnjak gipsy) you speak slavic and are mixed with Turks Slavs and gipsies, you and Illyrians? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
@No1zY93 Shame on you! Bosnia embraced many refugees from Kosovo during 1999. And now you are celebrating Srebrenica massacre??!!. Now I could say the same words as you "kosovo massacre 4ever". But I choose NOT to, it is shamefull to talk about innocent killed people in that way.
@No1zY93 you sheeptards are from the caucasus mountains and you share a common language with the people there..... does that give you a clue where you master the turks brought you monkeys from.... your from the other side of the ottoman empire.... fucking sheeptards.... serbs gave you land.... serbs gave you a king, skenderbeg.... serbs gave you a flag..... serbs created your nation.
historic albania were been in south of mountain caucasus,turks take the albanians as allies 400 years ago, and placed them to fight for them in balkans =serbia (south serbia=kosovo), illyria (in the borders with greece and serbia), greece (south greece, athens, central greece) and west bulgaria. "Ancient and Later Balkans History from the Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich" one of the top20 universities in the world.
@AlbananHistorian Hey historian, why can't you sheep-tards accept serbs and croatians are a mix of illyrians and slavs while your dirty language is similar to cassiran and udish junk from the caucaus mountains... lol turks didn't want you guys back cause you guys are shorter than turks and darker..... shiptars come from kavkaz, skanderbeg was half serbian and half greek... you guys make up your own history, but your dirty shiq language tells you where you come from, accept the truth
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Λοιπον,υπαρχει κατι πουη λεγεται διασταση αποψεων μεταξυ των ειδημονων.Το εαν συμφωνω με εναν ιστορικο σε ενα θεμα,δε σημαινει οτι θα συμφωνησω μαζι του σε ολα!
Μπορει να συμφωνω με την Ελενη Αρβελερ οσον αφορα τους Αρβανιτες,αλλα δε σημαινει απαραιτητα οτι θα συμφωνησω μαζι της σε περιπτωση που πει οτι οι Ελληνες καταγονται απο Κελτες.
@AlbananHistorian: Arkei na deis fwtografies apo diadhlwseis sta tirana gia na sigoureuteis oti oi arvanites p katevikan ton 10o-14o ai. sthn pelloponhso/euvoia toulaxiston htan pio asxetoi me tous shmerinous alvanous ap'oti einai oi simerinoi ellhnes me tous alvanous. Profanws gi'auto yparxei h diafora gegh toskh nte... Oi men einai pio ghgeneis alla k me epimeiksia sovarh, gi'auto k oi diafora koultouras. Afou kratisan tin koultoura tous klp p einai oloi oi alvanoi autoi shmera? moiazoun?
I totally agree with your comment.Not only that,but we shall not forget of the anthropological researches of Alexander Dhima,which have proven that Albanians are INDIGENOUS in Europe and the Illyrian lands.
Να εισελθεις στο Γιου Τιουμπ και με τεταρτο λογαριασμο τωρα νηπιε φασιστα.Οταν ο Πτολεμαιος μιλαει για Ιλλυρικη φυλη ονοματι Αλβανοι,εσυ τα γυαλια σου τα πετας στα σκουπιδια,ουτως ωστε να εθελοτυφλεις!Κανε μας τη χαρη τωρα
When Albania of Caucasus was destroyed by Romans, they seeked for new lands in the Balkans. Moving slowly, living in temporary camps, after some centuries they reached the Balkans
Thats why their language has close relations to the one spoke by Udis in Caucasus. It is proven by linguistic scientists and its certified by their findings. We also have the Genetic study proving the common DNA structure to the Caucasians from Kampacha.
"A 2002 genetic study shows that Albanians have ancestors who originated in an area north of Caucasus at the end of the first century AD. According to the study, modern Albanians have common genetic markers with the remains found at the Kampacha period graves in Caucasus"
XPLAINS WHY ALBOS CONSTANTLY LIE & SPEAK ABOUT THEIR FANTASIES which think r true!
That's the way it is with our culture, which is mythomaniac, national-communist, romantic self-glorifying. You can't say anything objective without ppl getting angry. The Albanians r people who still dream. That is what they are like in their conversations, their literature In light of Hoxha & pyramid schemes, Albanians are a people who still dream. That's just the way they are"
XPLAINS WHY ALBOS CONSTANTLY LIE & SPEAK ABOUT THEIR FANTASIES which think r true!
That's the way it is with our culture, which is mythomaniac, national-communist, romantic self-glorifying. You can't say anything objective without ppl getting angry. The Albanians r people who still dream. That is what they are like in their conversations, their literature In light of Hoxha & pyramid schemes, Albanians are a people who still dream. That's just the way they are"
''This patern of existence,explains the late entry of the Albanians in the historical record,during the years 1040 to 1080,when Arbanites are found serving in the imperial army.'' HAHAHAHA
Thus, the Albanians originally lived in Colchis on the Black Sea, from where they brought their language. They first emigrated to the Albanian hills near Rome. ........From there the Albanians (migrated), and they now live in Macedonia and the Peloponnese.
(Marin Barleti (albanian historians) - De Vita Moribus Ac Rebus Praecipue Aduersus Turcas, Gestis, Georgii Castrioti, Clarissimi Epirotarum Principis.)
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IN GREECE ARVANITES ORTHDOX ARE THE AUTHENTIC DESCENDANT OF ANCIENT EPIROTS. BUT MOUSLIM ARVANITES ARE TURK ALBANIANS, AND TRAITORS OF GREECE AND CONQUERORS OF EPIROS.
KRONOSELLAS 15 hours ago
YOU ARE CONFUSING THE MOTHER TONGUE WITH A LANGUAGE YOU SPEAK IN ORDER TO COMMUNICATE WITH FOREIGNERS.YOU SEE MATE,THESE BOLLOCKS WILL NEVER LET YOU SEE THE TRUTH.YOUR EYES MIGHT BE WHITE 'N BLUE,BUT HISTORY IS NOT.
ARVANITES=MOTHER TONGUE ARVANITIKA=ARVANITIKA=TOSK ALBANIAN DIALECT... Any other ''proof'' mate?
AlbananHistorian 16 hours ago
@AlbananHistorian DO NOT TRY TO PERSUADE ME, JUST TRY TO PERSUADE THE 400.000 GREEK ARVANITES. THERE IS NOT GREECE WITHOUT GREEK ARVANITES - EPIROTS BRO.
KRONOSELLAS 15 hours ago
THIS
IS
TRUTH.
DONT
HATE
OR
BE
JALOUSE
NOW.
ACEPT IT
MrUFOwatcher1 1 day ago
Just try to get the bigger picture.All I'm saying
AlbananHistorian 2 days ago
SCANDERBEG SPOKE AND WROTE GREEK BECAUSE OF THE BYZANTIUM,OF WHICH AFTER 630 A.D. ITS OFFICIAL LANGUAGE WAS THE GREEK ONE IDIOT.HE ALSO SPOKE ALBANIAN OF COURSE AS MENTIONED IN HIS BIOGRAPHY.GIVE ME ONE BOOK YOU FUCKFACE,ONE BOOK
AlbananHistorian 1 week ago
@AlbananHistorian I read that he was speaking Albanian (perhaps he was an arvanites) but he was versed of Greek of course as an educated Arvanites, and he was pulling his origin from Epirots. Now what is the meaning of Arvanites is a big question.
KRONOSELLAS 18 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS Arvanites are not from Epirus.They come from Arvanon,that is why they call themselves Arvanites.DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IN ALBANIAN ''ΑΡΒΑΝΙΤΗΣ=ΑΛΒΑΝΟΣ'' (Arvanitis=Albanian).DON'T YOU KNOW THAT GREEKS UNTILL THE 15TH CENTURY DID NOT REFER TO ALBANIANS AS ALBANIANS,BUT ARVANITES/ARBERESHE???What is left to talk about?
AlbananHistorian 16 hours ago
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KRONOSELLAS 15 hours ago
@AlbananHistorian ARVANITES WERE EPIROTES WHO RESIDED BETWEN GENOUSOS RIVER (SKOUMPIS) AND THE TOMAROS MOUNTAIN.
KRONOSELLAS 15 hours ago
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@AlbananHistorian ARVANITES WERE EPIROTES WHO RESIDED BETWEN GENOUSOS RIVER (SKOUMPIS) AND THE TOMAROS MOUNTAIN. ILLYRIA , MY BRO. WAS NORTHERN OF GENOUSOS RIVER AND FROM LIHNTIS (OHRIDA) LAKE AND NORTHEAST. ILLYRIA IS DIFFERENT REGION FROM EPIROS. THEREFORE KASTRIOTIS NEMED HIS SELF AS AN EPIROTAN AND NOT AS AN ILLYRIO
KRONOSELLAS 15 hours ago
@AlbananHistorian For theirselfes, Arvanites of Greece, (and for the other Greeks) this question is answered, they are more Greeks than Greeks and they know their origin from Ancient Epirots-Greeks) They adopted the dialect because of relations with Albanians.
KRONOSELLAS 18 hours ago
@KRONOSELLAS Who a gives a fuck about relations mate??? Greeks had also relations with Slavs.I do not see any Greek populations adopting Slavic as their MOTHER TONGUE.
YOU ARE FORGETTING THAT THE ARVANITES WERE NOT BILLINGUAL.Arvanites spoke ALBANIAN as their MOTHER TONGUE,and GREEK because of the BYZANTIUM whose OFFICIAL LANGUAGE was the GREEK one.
AlbananHistorian 16 hours ago
@AlbananHistorian MARCO BOTSARI HAD WRITTEN A VERY INTERESTING LEXICON ARVANITIKA-GREEK. THAT HAD 1490 WORDS IN ARVANITIKA AND 1700 IN GREEK. THESE WORDS HE KNEW AND WAS USING ONE SIMPLE PEASANT,ONE CATTLE-BREEDER - [TSOMPANIS] OR A FARMER, AS THEY WERE ALL ARVANITES . BUT ONE EDUCATED ARVANITES WAS VERSED OF THE GREEK LANGUAGE AS WELL AS OTHER GREEKS. IT WAS NOT A LANGUAGE WITH 1500 WORDS!! BRO
KRONOSELLAS 16 hours ago
@AlbananHistorian THERE ARE SLAVOFONIC GREEKS IN MAKEDONIA, BEFORE 100 YEARS THEY CALLED THEM AS GREECOMANI, BECAUSE OF THEIR THE STABLE GREEK CONSCIENCE (GREECO - MANI= GREEK WITH MANIA). THERE ARE ALSO AND GREEK VLACH, IN THE GREEK STATE, BUT ALSO AND IN ALBANIA STATE. SEARCH IF YOU WANT.
KRONOSELLAS 15 hours ago
NOT TO MENTION FOREIGN HISTORIANS LIKE THE FRENCH EDUARD GIBBON OR EVEN THE WORLD'S GREATEST ENCYCLOPEDIA PAPYRUS LARUS BRITANNICA.BOTH THESE SOURCES MENTION THAT THE FATHER OF GEORGE KASTRIOTI WAS GJON KASTRIOTI,AN ALBANIAN LORD OF THE NORTH.IDIOT.HOW DID EPIRUS GET IN THE PICTURE.SCANDERBEG FOUGHT AGAINST GREEKS UNDER THE COMMANDS OF THE TURKISH SOULTAN.BUT ONLY WHEN ASKED TO FIGHT AGAINST ALBANIANS,HE DISOBEYED AND FOUGHT ALONGSIDE HIS ALBANIAN MEN.
YOU IDIOTIC SHIT PROPAGANDIST
AlbananHistorian 1 week ago
@AlbananHistorian listen kid I don't wanna fight, I feel to sorry for your ignorence and stupidity!! His father's name was Ioannis, his last name is Kastriotis wich is TITALLY Greek, He only wrote and spoke Greek, He fought for the Byzantine Empire, and that's all.
The boys that fought with him were most defenatly Albanians, but those were his followers. Albanians always fought for the Ottoman empire. Your government schools toght you propaganda. Take care my little gypsy bitch
steve81132 1 week ago
It is natural to be Greek you idiot since these were BYZANTINE people idiot.For example Simeon Ouresis is TOTALLY GREEK IDIOT but he was Serb.What the fuck does Ioannis has to do.If someone named John comes in Greece,after 3,4 years for example they will call him Ioannis.I repeat you ignorant fuckface propagandist,that his name was GJON AS MENTIONED IN BRITANNICA,too.So all the Serb lords of Epirus were Greeks according t your logic.IDIOT STUPID AND WHAT ELSE ...
AlbananHistorian 1 week ago
@steve81132 I am waiting IDIOT
Give me one book referance or shut the fuck up.
Bye racist bitch
AlbananHistorian 1 week ago
here we go again! The Illyrians were an ancient (NATIVE) people of the land wich is now called Albania. No disrespect to the Albanian people witch I respect, but the original Albanians first came to Sicily witch later migrated to modern day Albania. The original Albanians, come from Asia minor nothwest of Armenia. As for Skanderbey, wich is a Turkish word, discribing him as Alexander bey, because he reminded the Turks of Alexander the great.
He was actualy half Greek, his mother was Serb. TRUTH!
steve81132 2 weeks ago
@steve81132 Who is going again? All the uneducated people like you who based on antialbanian propaganda would be willing to fart from their nose? What is it that you do not understand? Claudius Ptolemy mentions Albanians in Illyria.Anthropological researches as well as linguistic prove the same.Skanderbeg was an Albanian warrior as stated by all historians.Maybe the history you enjoy reading is the one at internet blogs,but the truth found in books HURTS
AlbananHistorian 1 week ago
@AlbananHistorian If only you opened books with less propaganda!! His name wass Giorgos Kastriotis, and the only thing mentioned by historians was that he was from Epiros. I feel sorry for you and your sorry ass propagantic facts. Were did Claudius Ptolemy ever mention Albanians anywhere? He certainly mentioned Illiryans but never ever, ever mention Albanians! Stop trying to steal every bodys history you jealous bunch of thieving Bastards!! Gypsys have richer history than you!!
steve81132 1 week ago
My idiot friend.There is a work of Claudius Ptolemy called ΓΕΩΓΡΑΦΙΚΑ (Geographic).He mentions an Illyrian tribe ''Albani'' (Αλβανοι in Greek idiot) and a city of theirs ''Albanopolis'' (Αλβανοπολις in Greek idiot) in CENTRAL ALBANIA.IDIOTIC JACKASS.They were a tribe of Central Albania.Giorgos Kastriotis? hahahahahaha I read the biography of HIS 1SDT BIOGRAPHER in the history museum of Tirana,and he mentions Scanderbeg as the dragon of Albania.Now fuck off with your propaganda idiot
AlbananHistorian 1 week ago
@steve81132 Ι knew you were going to block me.Typical coward behavior
AlbananHistorian 2 days ago
@AlbananHistorian the map of Illyria on 1.31' showes that Northen Epiros is Greek...
KRONOSELLAS 2 days ago
@KRONOSELLAS I do not care my friend.You have to understand that nowadays there are not Greeks,Albanians,Serbs etc. in the sense of ''PURE'' Greeks,Albanians etc. I am talking about Albanians - Illyrians, Ancient Greeks - Modern Greeks as far as these terms are concerned from a general point of view.I am not sure if you know what I mean,and even if you don't,I can explain.
AlbananHistorian 2 days ago
@AlbananHistorian Many Albanians beleive that Tsamuria (Thesprotia of Epiros) is yours and do propaganda. On the same time they over look that in Northern Epiros exist only Greek archaeological monuments. Neither we want or not, (you and me) we have unpaid bills which will define the future of the region of Balkans.
KRONOSELLAS 2 days ago
@KRONOSELLAS Define what? Don't you understand that this is not a problem?Don't you see that history is too ''big'',while we are wasting time over dead issues.Mate,your copatriots can barely earn their living,and you are talking about History,Greece and Albania.I support the thesis of a great Greek called RIGAS FERAIOS (Velestinlis).His vision was THE UNITED BALKANS.You know that by maintaining this position you support the American game....
AlbananHistorian 2 days ago
Teuta is Albanian she is fucking no fucking pussy Greeks
Dona590 2 weeks ago
@Dona590 Yes she was Illyrian,but why do you feel the need to swear?
Albania455 2 weeks ago
Illyrians are Slavs - Serbs. Albanians are from Caucasus!!!
velikistrumfjr 1 month ago
@velikistrumfjr
That theory has been proven false; there is not a single evidence to support the Caucasian thesis for Albanian origin.
First of all, our Balkan Albanians aren't even "Albanians" at all, they're Shqiptarët, Scipetars. Therefore, there isn't even an etymological connection to the region of Caucasian Albania, just as there's no connection between the Albanians and the Albanian mountains in Italy, or the Scottish (who are also called Albans)!
TheSrKalanj 1 month ago
@velikistrumfjr
The Slavic ethnicity of the Illyrians is also a dead end - especially if you add there the identification of Slavs and Serbs, which is futile, since the Serbs are just one of the Slavic tribes.
The situation further does not go up your hand if we consider the non-Slavic origin of their Serbs and the very likely possibility that they were originally an Irannic people, preferably of the Alans, who was subsequently slavicized.
TheSrKalanj 1 month ago
Mongolia , Siberia , Iran , Caucasus , Ukraine , Carpathians , Czech Rep , Poland , Slovakia , East Germany and temporary the Balkans !
These are the lands where your ancestors were GRAZING like ANIMALS !
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL !
LAWS OF NUREMBERG - SLAVS ARE SUBHUMANS 14/88
SLAVS RAUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !
IllyriPower 3 months ago
@IllyriPower THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SUBHUMEN.SLAVS ARE PEOPLE,ALBANIANS ARE PEOPLE,GREEKS ARE PEOPLE ETC. THE THING IS THAT THESE PARTICULAR SLAVS SHOULD NOT FORGE ALBANIAN HISTORY ! AND THEY SHOULD ALSO SAY THAT SLAVS CAME IN THE BALKANS AT THE 7TH CENTURY
AlbananHistorian 3 months ago
@AlbananHistorian This is new. Most Albanian hate Slavs and Greeks.
AMarkovicNS14 2 months ago
@AMarkovicNS14
I am sorry man,but I didn't really get the comment...
AlbananHistorian 1 month ago
@AlbananHistorian "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SUBHUMEN.SLAVS ARE PEOPLE,ALBANIANS ARE PEOPLE,GREEKS ARE PEOPLE ETC." This is what you said. And not much Albanians talk like that.
AMarkovicNS14 1 month ago
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@IllyriPower Illyrians are Slavs - Serbs. Albanians are from Caucasus!!
velikistrumfjr 1 month ago
Once More Time, The Royal Institute Of Sweden, The Most Prestigious Institution In The World Of Languages And Other Doctorates Along With Trinity College And Oxford, Has Published That The Albanian Language Is The Oldest Indo-European Language and the Albanians are the oldest nation in Europe.
The Albanian language has been determined to be the oldest of the European languages by DNA/genes studies at Stanford U.(Luigi Cavalli-Sforza). Serbian scum , Serboi tribe from Caucasus !
IllyriPower 3 months ago
The albanian language has nothing to do with old Illyrian. Illyrian is classified as Latin and albanian doesn't even look like that, infact it isn't even Indo-European rather a kavkaz-dialect.
Get back to Dagestan albanian shit holes
33333333333333331993 3 months ago
@33333333333333331993 hahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahahahahah !
at least you SUBHUMANS ( SLAVS - SLAVES ) are the funniest people of europe , its not you , its your great ignorance that makes you so funny !
in fact Albanian language is influenced very much by Latin language , one time our language was classified as Latin ! our language is Indo - European and is the OLDEST OF IE LANGUAGES !
1 ) - ALBANIAN
2 ) - ARMENIAN
3 ) - GREEK
IllyriPower 3 months ago
@33333333333333331993
hey idiot.THE FATHER OF GREEK HISTORIOGRAPHY K. PAPARRIGOPOULOS SAYS THAT THE ALBANIAN IS AN INDOEUROPEAN LANGUAGE.ALSO DO NOT FORGET IDIOT THAT BEFORE TALKING FOR THE ALBANIANS,YOU SHOULD WATCH YOUR OWN COUNTRY.SLAVS CAME HERE IN THE 7TH CENTURY AD AND WERE PREVIOUSLY IN EURASIA. IT IS NOT BAD,IT IS SIMPLY THE TRUTH.IT IS HISTORY,BYE BYE
AlbananHistorian 3 months ago
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deedeegr100 3 months ago
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magicarpokemon 3 months ago
" The ALBANIANS are the descendants of the population who were known as ILLYRIANS ". - Georigios Aksiotellis, Euangelos Stounos and Georigios Skordos - by GREEK ENCYCLOPEDIA
GOLDMINE8 4 months ago
@mogim98 No hahaahha i sayed the true boy ;)
TheArbnoor 4 months ago
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TheArbnoor 4 months ago
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term "Illyrians" last appears in the historical record in the 7th century AD, referring to a Byzantine garrison operating within the former province. All the remaining tribes except perhaps the Romanized Vlachs were Slavicised in the course of the Middle Ages, while modern Albanian might have descended from a southern Illyrian dialect. In the 19th century, an Illyrian national identity became significant in Croatian nationalism.
JIMY45GR 5 months ago
you shqips are genetically EV-13 which means you are indo-europeanized NEGROS....
BOGZASV8MA 5 months ago
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@BOGZASV8MA dirty subhuman serb from caucasus Albanians are the oldest people of Europe
you are iranian gypsies , slavicized monkeys . shut the fuck up and get the fuck out from Albanian Illyrian clips
IllyriPower 5 months ago
Albanci su najruzniji narod.Lice na majmune
SuperGoranilic 6 months ago
@SuperGoranilic jebi se picka ti mater ilirya albania isti suu pickeeeee kad smo bili mi vie i russia i sllavs nigde niste biliii beee pickeeeee you son of the bitch :@
TheArbnoor 5 months ago
That Albania is Illyria's descendant is widely accepted among historians. Our language bares absolutely no major similarities to any other language in that region or the world (beside Kosovo which is only a different dialect).
albomale 6 months ago
ALBANIA ITS NOT ILLYRIA!
SuperGoranilic 6 months ago
@SuperGoranilic then ho is iliria You stupid gorans ? or shall i say slavs go back to rusia bitches
AlbaIliria 6 months ago
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Vru7 3 months ago
@SuperGoranilic you mother fuck we are illyrians albania is illyria ahahahahha of you vill to bee serbia iilyria aa hahahahahhahahahhahahhah but sory serbia was was was i dont now :S serbia exicdet not hahahhahaha ALL THE WORLD NOW BeCauSe ALBANIA IS ILLYRIA And
TheArbnoor 5 months ago
"those who never come back" and that is a truth coze Albanians really never go back to there fatherland Middle east. Ililyrians have nothing in common with Albanians(Arnauts). Illyrians has been killed by Turks and Albanians- arabs .
JIMY45GR 6 months ago
@JIMY45GR majmun, have you looked in dictionary and history book for what means Arnaut? i dont think so
Arnaut is the same thing as Arvanit and Albanian. its the same named used for Albanians
just like greeks are called as romoi or yunan
greeks come from asia minor and have nothing to do with ancient Hellenic civilization.
"greek" is not listed as a tribe of ancient Hellens
but we know from historical records that AlBANOI is tribe of illyrians
IllyriaMacedonia 6 months ago
Albania before 60 years ,pure muslims from Middle East ! Albanians wear Turbans even today .Albanians are also known as "Arnauts" and "Arnauds"Word - "arnaud" in Arabian language means -deserter,renegate- ! Whitch means that they are Arabian tribe, expeld from Arabia because of their collaboration with Turks. Turks have bring them in Balkans in 15th century.Even Turks call them "arnauts" whitch means "those who never come back" and that is a truth coze A
JIMY45GR 6 months ago
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@JIMY45GR hey gayreek asshole . Arnaut came from Arvanit , Arbanit - Medieval Name for Albanians and Turks took this name from Greeks . try to learn some history , IGNORANT !!!!
Illyrians = Albanians !!
Greeks = EGYPTIANS , TURKS , SLAVS , PONTIANS AND ARVANITES . nothing to do with ancient hellenes .
IllyriPower 5 months ago
Is not Parthini o Shqipe Ari, is PARTHENI.
ArmandoTafa 6 months ago
Illyrians are and the first people of Balkan
MrLadrocuori 6 months ago
ILLyria is a name given by the Greeks. IF it is not Greek then show the world ILLyrian artifacts written in albanian?
5hitter 6 months ago
ILLyria is a Greek word. Show us Ancient ILLyrian artifacts and ruins written in the albanian language
5hitter 7 months ago
@5hitter Illyria is not a greek word. Illyria has no meaning in modern greek language.
IllyriaMacedonia 6 months ago
watch?v=f_YwTfVBMBs&feature=channel_video_title
bosna501 7 months ago
caucasian albania hahahah ahh nenen e nenes jau qifsha
bedri18 8 months ago
Caucasian Albania???!!!!
Aleksandar1694 8 months ago
Caucasian , that's truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aleksandar1694 8 months ago
Wikipedia/Caucasian_Albania
Aleksandar1694 8 months ago
Serbs gonna hate ;)
StrongGayBlackMan 8 months ago
I dont understand you people's obsession with Illyria.You have nothing to do with Illyria or Illyrians,everybody knows that,you got your first state in 1912!!!
Only Albanians think they're Illyrians,just like only Macedonian Slavs think they're ancient Macedonians.If it wasnt pathetic it'd be stupid!
truditis 10 months ago
I do not understand why a SLAV would not speak for his own people who ARRIVED AT THE BALKANS IN the 7th century AD,but speak a lot for other populations,ALBANIANS in particular ! Yes,of course my IGNORANT friend ! The ancient GREEK geographer Claudius Ptolemy who mentions an Illyrian tribe named ''Albanians'' and a city of their ''ALBANOpolis'' is stupid !THE MAJORITY of HISTORIANS that claims Albanians to be either Illyrians or THRACIANS are stupid!The only smart men are you! I G N O R A N C E
AlbananHistorian 10 months ago 13
@AlbananHistorian I don't think your friend is ignorant but i think its you and stupid as hell. We have nothing to do with Slave as you say. But hey if you want to look stupid keep going like this. You are in the good way
skenderbeur 5 months ago
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Vru7 3 months ago
@truditis have you ever asked yourself if you are greek ??? the answer is that you are not greek origin .... greece =albanian,sllav,romanian ,arabic ,thats is greece forget about you race you are not greek anymore look at yourself on the mirror ....
cambsuk 9 months ago
@truditis hahahahahhahah , before 1912 Albanians didnt existed ??? IGNORANT .
PELASGIANS - ILLYRIANS - ALBANIANS = THE OLDEST PEOPLE OF EUROPE !
ETHIOPIAN MOTHERFUCKER . DONT FORGET ARVANITES WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR YOUR DEAD COUNTRY .
IllyriPower 9 months ago
@truditis Albanians are the closest descendants of Illyrians,most scholars say so.
The DNA tests say so.The language is the same.The artefacts say so.
Just our neighbors do not like it to be so.So suck my Albanian Illyrian dick then
go spit on your Slavic kurva mother and improve your race with ilyrian blood.
How is that for an Illyrian present to new Slavic neighbors in Balkan?
You come in Balkans bringing russian letters and dialect and blood
then want to change history made before you came.
1AlbaryanSabretigerr 7 months ago
@1AlbaryanSabretigerr
DNA proves you come from Africa and Asia,you have no monuments,your language isnt European,its closest to Chechen,you arrived here with the Turks.
We are Illyrians,you're Turkish gypsies,imports from 15th century,muslim parasites.
truditis 7 months ago
@truditis if you write something, then stick to the facts like Albaryan Sabretigerr.
Shit of an racist
shqipbozz1 6 months ago
@1AlbaryanSabretigerr Albanian DNA has been in Balkans for 7500 years.
Serb Slavic gypsies came here in 1300 years ago.
Albanian language is the oldest IE and the mother of all Balkan languages.
Serbs have Slavic blood,language and letters and envy Albanians.
Look up the video,,,,,Albanian DNA and language,,,,,and cry with envy.
Then come in Albania and get some good seed for your women.
1AlbaryanSabretigerr 7 months ago
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@truditis dirty subhuman serb parasite from iran . ALBANIANS = ILLYRIANS
we have an Illyrian language and Illyrian customs . you are obsessed with Albanians thats why you are on every Albanian Illyrian clip to say your fucking bullshits .
95% OF HISTORIANS SAY THAT ALBANIANS ARE THE DIRECT DESCENDANTS OF ILLYRIANS and they are not STUPID like YOU . when we had an empire , culture , civilization ,glory and honor you serb parasites were still not evolved apes on the trees so stfu
IllyriPower 5 months ago
@truditis ALBANIANS ILLYRIAN ITS SAME boys
TheArbnoor 5 months ago
@truditis wtf its proofen one ancient walls in greece ritings in ilirian modern albanian but you fag slavs of rusia do not acept it you wanna take it for your self even last night some one told that the greek wandet to take scenderbeg as there own i laved my ass out
AlbaIliria 3 months ago
@AlbaIliria
Skenderbeg is Serbian,not Shiptar.
Your language is most closely related to Chechen,my dear boy.
Serbs=Illyrians,Albanians=Chechen Turks
truditis 3 months ago
@truditis you suna va bitches you are realy trying to steal that from us too you suna va bitches fucking serbian cocksuckers serbians are = rusian ex skave skenderbeg albanian proofen albanian ilirian same language serbian macedion same languege same ritings asrusians you mudafucking dipshit loosers accept it and fuck off
AlbaIliria 3 months ago
@AlbaIliria
You came from Checenia and Azerbaijan you muslim gypsy....stop stealing history and go back to Asia!!!!
truditis 3 months ago
@truditis oh okok why don't you start calling yourself albanian now?
0502ez 3 months ago
@truditis greeks are fags skinny ass bitches like serbs macedonians ilirians are albanians and its proofen ilirian same languege as albanian so you can suck at that the reasen you hate is is becouse you can back up ore steal the ilirian history thats killing you but greek macedonian serbian alot comon with rusian so that for you uare rusian imigrants that cam in to ilirian countrys we were stupid to alow you race your head up
AlbaIliria 3 months ago
@AlbaIliria
Hahahah,go back to Checenia and Dagestan you filthy muslim rat! and stop stealing history!!!
Fuck you Mustafa!!!!
truditis 3 months ago
@truditis
yeah indeed. now go back to your kazakistan and siberia.
0502ez 3 months ago
@0502ez
Hahahahah,wtf???????
Mustafa,Dagestan is calling you.......
truditis 3 months ago
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what? the descendants of cauc. albania (today azerbaijan) are the udi's, who are ethnically and linguistically related to the persians and the armenians. who lives scattered is small groups through dagestan, azerbaijan and armenia and that has nothing to do with albanians who are descendants of the illyrians.
why? because it's widely known that albania has been inhabitated since prehistory, therefore the tiny % of those people that could have came in albania are simply NOT SHQIPETARS.
0502ez 3 months ago
@truditis
hahahahahaha,you idiot
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT FAITH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ORIGIN.YOU IDIOT
YOU FOR EXAMPLE ARE CHRISTIAN,BUT AS A SLAV,YOUR ORIGIN IS FOUND AT THE URALS,AT THE RUSSIAN MOUNTAINS WHICH YOU ORIGINATED FROM.EITHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT,SLAVS HAVE LESS THAN 1500 YEARS OF HISTORY HERE
AlbananHistorian 3 months ago
@AlbananHistorian
Faith has everything to do with it...we're native Balkan population and Christianity became a stone of Balkan identity long before you and Turks came here.Thats why even after 500 years of Turkish rule over Balkans the only muslim majority country is Albania,nobody else.There are some Christian Albanians,but overall you're over 90% muslims,and your religion as well as culture are Asian!
truditis 3 months ago
@truditis AND YOU SAY THAT BASED ON WHAT? THE MANY YEAR EXPERIENCE YOU HAD IN ALBANIA?? HAHAHAHAHA LISTEN TO ME IDIOT CAUSE FREE HISTORY LESSONS ARE ONCE TAUGHT.MAYBE YOU HAVE NOT HEARD OF A THING CALLED FAITH CONVERTION.IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS,BUT MAYBE YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE IT.FOR EXAMPLE ALBANIANS !!! ALBANIANS YOU IDIOT,WERE CHRISTIANS UNTILL THE 15TH CENTURY.AFTER 500 YEARS OF OTTOMAN INVASION,THERE WERE ONLY 35% CHRISTANS LEFT
AlbananHistorian 3 months ago
@AlbananHistorian
Shiptars were always muslims,thats why Turks settled you here!Or do you want me to accept that of all the Balkan people who were under Turkish rule,you were the only ones who somehow almost all converted to islam???Theory you try to prove would mean that you were the biggest pussies and cowards,since you converted the most to islam...so one way or another you end up being worthless!
truditis 3 months ago
@truditis ONCE AGAIN IDIOT,LET ME TELL YOU THAT FAITH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ORIGIN.HOW IDIOT CAN YOU BE MAN? HOW CAN PHILOSOPHY AND THEORY APPLY TO ORIGIN? OH JESUS
YOUR LEVEL OF STUPIDITY HAS OVERCOME EVERYONE. UNDERSTAND THIS IDIOT.FAITH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DNA AND ORIGIN. TAKE FOR EXAMPLE MADONNA.THE FACT SHE CONVERTED TO BUDISM,DOES NOT MAKE HER CHINESE,IDIOT.HAHAHAHAHA.SO ACCORDING TO YOU IF SOMEONE FROM SERBIA CONVERTS TO BUDIST HE WILL BE CHINESE? HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH WHAT AN IDIOT
AlbananHistorian 3 months ago
@truditis AND I AM TELLING YOU AGAIN MY SILLY DUMB FRIEND.FAITH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.FOR EXAMPLE IF TOMORROW,STH HAPPENS AND ALL GREEKS CONVERT TO MUSLIM.WHAT DOES IT MEAN? THAT THEY WILL SUDDENLY BE TURKS?? HAHAHAHA...DO NOT MIX DNA AND ORIGIN WITH FILOSOPHY YOU IDIOT.YOUR PEOPLE,THE SERBS FOR EXAMPLE.ONCE AGAIN I HAVE TO TELL YOU YOUR PEOPLE CAME FROM EURASIA TO THE BALKANS AT HE 7TH CENTURY AD.GET OVER IT AND CONTINUE WITH YOUR PATHETIC LIFE
AlbananHistorian 3 months ago
@AlbananHistorian
Let me dissaprove one more of your stupid theories.Who are the Turks now???Mostly descendants of islamized Greeks,Serbs,Bulgarians,Armenians,Macedonians,Georgians,Romanians,Ukrainians,etc.
During Ottoman Empire anyone from these people numbered above who converted to islam would embrace Turkish identity cause he would be considered traitor among his own people.Just one example:Sokollu Mehmed Pasha(born a Serb,converts to islam,becomes Turkish Grand Vizier).
truditis 3 months ago
@truditis BUT EVEN IF IT HAD TO DO,YOU IDIOT,ALBANIANS WERE CHRISTIANS 100% BEFORE THE 15TH CENTURY AND THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE.EVEN NOW,ABOUT 35% OF ALBANIANS ARE CHRISTIANS (CATHOLIC MOSTLY AND ORTHODOX). IDIOT
I MYSELF AM AN ALBANIAN CHRISTIAN.YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN ON THE OTHER HAND.YOU ARE A NATIONALIST PIG,IDIOT
AlbananHistorian 3 months ago
The symbol and the faces is greek.
Panas300 11 months ago
@SuperPreciousMetal oh i see sry thanks you that you told me that i am a white nigger didnt know that :D
FrealGent 11 months ago
The first time an albanian race was ever mentioned was in 1050 a.d. Before that there was no record of existing albanians or illyrians for 1000 years. However there was a region near the caspian sea that the byzantines refered to as albania, it was crushed by mongols and many of its inhabitants resettled in areas of the bulkans. Look it up yourself you stupid albos, figure out your own history and stop stealing from others
raza121 11 months ago
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@SuperPreciousMetal our flag serb flag ...the symbols are taken from the symbol of the byzant empire hahahahaahahaaaaaaa you are so a little bunch of shit idiot
FrealGent 11 months ago
@SuperPreciousMetal our flag serb flag ...the symbols are taken from the symbol of the byzant empire hahahahaahahaaaaaaa you are so a little bunch of shit
FrealGent 11 months ago
@SuperPreciousMetal albanian language is only found on balkan and not in caucausus you motherfuckin black ape should have known that stupid doouche
FrealGent 11 months ago
@FrealGent black ape? are you forgetting all europeans east and west consider albanians the niggers of europe.... go back to your homeland in azerbajzan, you guys are turning europe into pakistan with your over breeding and dirty life style. NIGGER.
SuperPreciousMetal 11 months ago
@FrealGent
historic albania were been in south of mountain caucasus, turks take the albanians as allies 400 years ago, and placed them to fight for them in balkans =serbia (south serbia=kosovo), illyria (in the borders with greece and serbia), greece (south greece, athens, central greece) and west bulgaria. "Ancient and Later Balkans History from the Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich" one of the top20 universities in the world
Pegasos4 11 months ago 2
@Pegasos4 if We are from caucasus then you are from mordor
KosovaChelseaTBA 11 months ago
@Pegasos4
exact!
KosmosChannel 11 months ago 2
@Pegasos4
Τhe most ignorrant and non-proved comments.There are ZERO proof as far as the things you are stating are concerned ! Anthropological studies prove this,while the MAJORITY of historians believe Albanians are the descendants of the Illyrians.The 2ND MOST RELIABLE theory says that Albanians are THRACIANS ! Caucasus...hahahaha....There are no proof concernig language,origin,traditions,historic references etc. connecting Albanians to Caucasus !
AlbananHistorian 10 months ago
@Pegasos4
Do not forget that Claudius Ptolemy himself mentions an Illyrian tribe named ''Albanians'' (Αλβανοι),and their town, ''Albanopolis'' (Αλβανοπολις) located in MODERN DAY Central Albania !
AlbananHistorian 10 months ago
croatians and serbians are the closest people to illyrians, you albanians share a common language with people from azerbajzan udish chechens...... where you come from, where your turkish masters brought you from.
SuperPreciousMetal 1 year ago
It is funny how in the beginning that the Croatians and Albanian and claimed.Illyria as their civilization but disapeared before the birth of Christ. If Croatians and Albanians are both are from Illyria would you not think the language would be: CroAlban Language?
andjelicd70 1 year ago
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albanians are a asiatic tribe from caucausus
you are muslim ad look asiatic
keep dreaming about the illyrian stroy
poor imigrant
LeonardoDaVinci555 1 year ago
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All this greatest Anthropologist and other Academics Worldwide said that Bosniaks are a Illyrian Race and Nativ Balkanpeople: Angel, Bounak, Coon, Debetz, Ewing, Gherassimov, Hasluck, Morant, Levin, Oudaltsev, Poulianos, Tovarev, Koumaris, Wilkes, Paul, Hirt, Weigand, Tomashek, Georgiev, Pushcariu and many many others and then we got the Genetic facts from Igenea, Genograpic, Familytreedna and all the other Genetic Results.
bosna501 1 year ago
albananunistorian should be your nick
BullshitBlocker 1 year ago
Proud to be Albanian - Illyrian
Im not like slavs that move all the time from one part of world to another:S:S
Im ALBANIAN and i stand where i was!!!
TheValmirZz 1 year ago
@TheValmirZz your not illyrians,,, your a dumb fucking SHEEPTARD that shares a common language with people from azerbajzan and udish people close to iran.... your the joke of europe and always will be, your turkish masters pulled you monkeys from the other side of the ottoman empire... skenderbeg was half serbian and half greek and your albanian flag was given to you by serbs and serbs gave land to you monkeys around berat modern day albania.... berat former name was belgrad... sheeptarded
SuperPreciousMetal 1 year ago
'The first undisputed mention of Albanians in the historical record is attested in Byzantine source for the first time in 1079-1080, in a work titled History by Byzantine historian Michael Attaliates, who referred to the Albanoi as having taken part in a revolt against Constantinople in 1043 and to the Arbanitai as subjects of the duke of Dyrrachium.'
1043. ad
albanians/shitars are NOT illyrians.
ssmaxx 1 year ago
Sad that this is not true =)
CoverPlz 1 year ago
they were ancient greeks! woww how dumb can u albanians be it was all apart of the greek empire back then and by the way dont waste ur fukin time tryin to argue
urfacewayne 1 year ago
Famous Historian John Wilkes correctly puts Illyrian descendants among contemporary Bosnian. Wilkes hints that Bosnians are slavicized Illyrians and he leans on C.S Coon who insists that Albanians are of mixed Slavic, Thracian, Turkish, Armenoid and Illyrian origin. Wilkes supports the concept of a Bosnia-centered Illyria, proposing that it's actually Bosnia, not Albania, which was Illyria.
Latest genetic results points that this is true!
AjlaBosniazka 1 year ago
@AjlaBosniazka Fuck your mother u picku ta qifsha pidhin e nanes back to caucasus with you muslim Srboi (Boshnjak gipsy) you speak slavic and are mixed with Turks Slavs and gipsies, you and Illyrians? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
SREBRENICA MASSACRE 4 EVER
No1zY93 1 year ago
@No1zY93 Shame on you! Bosnia embraced many refugees from Kosovo during 1999. And now you are celebrating Srebrenica massacre??!!. Now I could say the same words as you "kosovo massacre 4ever". But I choose NOT to, it is shamefull to talk about innocent killed people in that way.
AjlaBosniazka 1 year ago
@No1zY93 you sheeptards are from the caucasus mountains and you share a common language with the people there..... does that give you a clue where you master the turks brought you monkeys from.... your from the other side of the ottoman empire.... fucking sheeptards.... serbs gave you land.... serbs gave you a king, skenderbeg.... serbs gave you a flag..... serbs created your nation.
SuperPreciousMetal 1 year ago
@IllyrianMacedonian
historic albania were been in south of mountain caucasus,turks take the albanians as allies 400 years ago, and placed them to fight for them in balkans =serbia (south serbia=kosovo), illyria (in the borders with greece and serbia), greece (south greece, athens, central greece) and west bulgaria. "Ancient and Later Balkans History from the Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich" one of the top20 universities in the world.
KosmosChannel 1 year ago 2
yo man that was 3000 years ago....
DeFICenTsBroTHeRs 1 year ago
yes...
AlbananHistorian 1 year ago
hahahha wat SHIT DO u learn at your school??Google it to realize that you have no history and the albanins camer there from caucasos with the mongols
ANTHONYTHEPETIT 1 year ago
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Im Proud to be Albanian!!
TheValmirZz 1 year ago
There was no Ellyrian empire or their country.
timotimekvej 1 year ago
fake and gay
nikola960 1 year ago
kakvaska stookaa vie ste iliri gjupci smrdeni
MACED0NN 1 year ago
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As a matter of fact,she was one of the Aecidae...They were mentioned as Greeks by Thycidides
AlbananHistorian 1 year ago
@cobone1
I know she wasn' t Illyrian.I intended to use the photo of the Illyrian Queen Teuta,but I mistakenly clicked on the photo of Olympia.
I do not think there are any other Greek symbols in the video (Maybe you are talking for the menander?)
AlbananHistorian 1 year ago
@AlbananHistorian Hey historian, why can't you sheep-tards accept serbs and croatians are a mix of illyrians and slavs while your dirty language is similar to cassiran and udish junk from the caucaus mountains... lol turks didn't want you guys back cause you guys are shorter than turks and darker..... shiptars come from kavkaz, skanderbeg was half serbian and half greek... you guys make up your own history, but your dirty shiq language tells you where you come from, accept the truth
SuperPreciousMetal 11 months ago
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Illyria=Albania
FUCK HATERS :D
Albanian2Be 1 year ago
Albania=Illyria....
Flm per ftesen vella
AlbananHistorian 1 year ago
good video
Albania455 1 year ago
Πηγαινε ρωτα καποιον Πανεπιστημιακο να σου τα πει
AlbananHistorian 1 year ago
0:20 arxaia alvanida? AXAXAXA !!!!! SE PARAKALW FTIAKSE KI ALLA TETOIA VIDEO... Btw ksereis poia einai auth p evakes h aplws etsi? xaxa Kala auto, to kyrio Wilkes p kaneis quote ton empisteuesai? Gia tsekare ligo auto file mou:
greekrealm (dot) com (slash) forum (slash) general-talk (slash) 6779-true-origins-albanians (dot) html
RockOnGreece 1 year ago
Δε βγαζει τιποτα η ιστοσελιδα αυτη,και εαν ειχες αγορασει καλυτερης ποιοτητας διοπτρα,θα ηξερες οτι μπερδευτηκα...
AlbananHistorian 1 year ago
an kaneis swsta antikatastash opou (dot) " . " k opou (slash) " / "
k sviseis ta kena bgazei
RockOnGreece 1 year ago
Αυτο εκανα,τελος παντων...
Λοιπον,υπαρχει κατι πουη λεγεται διασταση αποψεων μεταξυ των ειδημονων.Το εαν συμφωνω με εναν ιστορικο σε ενα θεμα,δε σημαινει οτι θα συμφωνησω μαζι του σε ολα!
AlbananHistorian 1 year ago
Μπορει να συμφωνω με την Ελενη Αρβελερ οσον αφορα τους Αρβανιτες,αλλα δε σημαινει απαραιτητα οτι θα συμφωνησω μαζι της σε περιπτωση που πει οτι οι Ελληνες καταγονται απο Κελτες.
AlbananHistorian 1 year ago
@AlbananHistorian: Arkei na deis fwtografies apo diadhlwseis sta tirana gia na sigoureuteis oti oi arvanites p katevikan ton 10o-14o ai. sthn pelloponhso/euvoia toulaxiston htan pio asxetoi me tous shmerinous alvanous ap'oti einai oi simerinoi ellhnes me tous alvanous. Profanws gi'auto yparxei h diafora gegh toskh nte... Oi men einai pio ghgeneis alla k me epimeiksia sovarh, gi'auto k oi diafora koultouras. Afou kratisan tin koultoura tous klp p einai oloi oi alvanoi autoi shmera? moiazoun?
RockOnGreece 1 year ago
Πιστευω οτι οι Αρβανιτες καταγονται απο αλβανικους πληθυσμους.Το ιδιο και ο Αμερικανος ιστορικος Τζων Γουιλκες.Επι' αυτου συμφωνω μαζι του.
Επειδη συμφωνω μαζι του σε αυτο το θεμα,δε σημαινει οτι θα συμφωνω μαζι του σε ολα οσα λεει.
AlbananHistorian 1 year ago
@IllyrianLion
I totally agree with your comment.Not only that,but we shall not forget of the anthropological researches of Alexander Dhima,which have proven that Albanians are INDIGENOUS in Europe and the Illyrian lands.
AlbananHistorian 1 year ago
Μονο μια ερωτηση. Γιατι στο video σου εχεις βαλει την Ολυμπια η οποια ειναι Ηπειρωτησα???
Zorro11144 1 year ago
Ηθελα να προσθεσω την εικονα της Ιλλυριας πριγκιπισσας Τευτα,αλλα μπερδευτηκα και εβαλα την Ολυμπια.
AlbananHistorian 1 year ago
Να εισελθεις στο Γιου Τιουμπ και με τεταρτο λογαριασμο τωρα νηπιε φασιστα.Οταν ο Πτολεμαιος μιλαει για Ιλλυρικη φυλη ονοματι Αλβανοι,εσυ τα γυαλια σου τα πετας στα σκουπιδια,ουτως ωστε να εθελοτυφλεις!Κανε μας τη χαρη τωρα
AlbananHistorian 1 year ago
WHAT ON EARTH AN ALBO CAN B PROUD ABOUT? DREAMING OF BEING GREEK?
OBEYING ALL CONQUERORS WHILE OTHERS WERE FIGHTING M?
ALLYING WITH NAZIS& MOUSOLINI?
STEALING GREEK HISTORY NAMES SYMBOLS HEROES CLOTHES etc?
Using albo etymology to xplain Greek words?
Becoming muslims out of fear? Never winning a single war? UR ZERO CONTRIBUTION TO MANKIND? BEING JEALOUS OF GREEKS?
ALL OF ALBOS BACKROUND IS FULL OF DISGRACE & DISHONESTY
If ur ancestors were so inglorious & dishonorable dont blame the Greeks
AlexandrosMakedonas 1 year ago
Albanians come from Caucasus
When Albania of Caucasus was destroyed by Romans, they seeked for new lands in the Balkans. Moving slowly, living in temporary camps, after some centuries they reached the Balkans
Thats why their language has close relations to the one spoke by Udis in Caucasus. It is proven by linguistic scientists and its certified by their findings. We also have the Genetic study proving the common DNA structure to the Caucasians from Kampacha.
AlexandrosMakedonas 1 year ago
"A 2002 genetic study shows that Albanians have ancestors who originated in an area north of Caucasus at the end of the first century AD. According to the study, modern Albanians have common genetic markers with the remains found at the Kampacha period graves in Caucasus"
Source:
INTERNATIONAL ANTHROPOLOGY RESEARCH
AlexandrosMakedonas 1 year ago
Fatos Lubojia - Albanian historian
XPLAINS WHY ALBOS CONSTANTLY LIE & SPEAK ABOUT THEIR FANTASIES which think r true!
That's the way it is with our culture, which is mythomaniac, national-communist, romantic self-glorifying. You can't say anything objective without ppl getting angry. The Albanians r people who still dream. That is what they are like in their conversations, their literature In light of Hoxha & pyramid schemes, Albanians are a people who still dream. That's just the way they are"
AlexandrosMakedonas 1 year ago
Fatos Lubojia - Albanian historian
XPLAINS WHY ALBOS CONSTANTLY LIE & SPEAK ABOUT THEIR FANTASIES which think r true!
That's the way it is with our culture, which is mythomaniac, national-communist, romantic self-glorifying. You can't say anything objective without ppl getting angry. The Albanians r people who still dream. That is what they are like in their conversations, their literature In light of Hoxha & pyramid schemes, Albanians are a people who still dream. That's just the way they are"
AlexandrosMakedonas 1 year ago
ABOUT THE ARVANITES,WILKES WRITES
''This patern of existence,explains the late entry of the Albanians in the historical record,during the years 1040 to 1080,when Arbanites are found serving in the imperial army.'' HAHAHAHA
AlbananHistorian 1 year ago
Thus, the Albanians originally lived in Colchis on the Black Sea, from where they brought their language. They first emigrated to the Albanian hills near Rome. ........From there the Albanians (migrated), and they now live in Macedonia and the Peloponnese.
(Marin Barleti (albanian historians) - De Vita Moribus Ac Rebus Praecipue Aduersus Turcas, Gestis, Georgii Castrioti, Clarissimi Epirotarum Principis.)
oouuahahahahahah
AlexandrosMakedonas 1 year ago
@albannanaPSEUDOhistorian
arvanites were Greeks STILL R descending from Arvanon EVEN PLYBIO SPEAK ABOUT THESE GREEKS
I DONT KNOW ABOUT ARBANITES though [DO NOT CONFUSE B WITH V]
but still WILKES WRITES u dont have nothing illyrian --ooouahahahahahaha
AlexandrosMakedonas 1 year ago