Agreed, I just want to make sure I'm not kidding myself practicing stuff that is hard to pull off in a studio w/friends let alone against a social path who may be sweaty or bloodly and very aggressive and hard to "hold" on to. Thanks for the time! Chris
@40chrisk I don't see a problem studying difficult technique in the studio. You never know if you will use it someday in some unknown context. Also keep in mind that when you are the heat of it, you will only do the technique that you would naturally respond with. Most likely it will be simple and direct, but you never know. If you never study anything but striking combinations, then you are only limited to beating somebody to a pulp with no way to control them without injuring them.
Agree! Even as a former boxer, I cannot predict which fist(or foot) my workout partner is going to throw, so it only makes good sense that you strike first whenever U can in violence. When U add the fight/flight response, the ability to use some or all of the higher motor skills are kuput. Big windmills seems to make alot of sense to me, since you can do that type of movment under high stress.
@40chrisk Yes, gross motor skills work easier under great stress. Therefore big windmills and swinging, striking movements are easier as well. It really has to do with your mind set at the time of attack. Are you ready, did you see his attack coming, how much time do you have to respond, can you attack him without blocking at all? If so, then you are in complete control and decide what you will do to him. This really is the essence of "Futga" training. This is just my perspective.
For real violence, as in when you lose bowel control under stress of possable death, how practical do U feel the joint breaking/throwing is compaired to the straight out Hung-gar power striking(ah-soo, Nu--pai) Having my partner throwing real hard punches at me, I could in no way pull off most of the Toy-Le-Ho. Maybe I just stink, put the hard-core striking was the only thing that worked when he was really hitting me.
@40chrisk Not all of the "Tsoi Li Ho" are breaking/throwing/joint lock type lessons. Many of them are striking and kicking combinations. The "ah'soo and Num'pi" lessons are more simplified than the "Tsoi Li Ho" lessons and that alone makes them more practical for the fighter of an average skill level. Simple is easier and simple will work more often then something more complicated.
@40chrisk Although it depends on the level of someone's ability to use the Kung Fu they have learned. Confidence and proven performance, or the concept of "Fut'ga", are essential to any combat training you pursue. Fut'ga lessons teach you to go in and claim the prey that you have decided to devour. Like a predator animal stalking prey or fighting another rival wild animal. The one who is attacking with the intensity to overcome his opponent will most likely claim victory and live.
@40chrisk In our culture people seem to want to fight to prove how tough they are. It's like a macho/pride thing. Fighting is ugly and can permanently disfigure someone or kill them instantly. How hard is it to crush a throat or take out someone's eye? I will ONLY fight if it is necessary for the survival of my family, myself or someone in need of help. To train with precision and focus, as with firearms training, should be our priority. AND hope to never have to use it on the street.
San Soo will never be lost as long as there are instructors like yourself sharing it so openly. The more quality black belts you produce insures the art will endure.
Agreed, I just want to make sure I'm not kidding myself practicing stuff that is hard to pull off in a studio w/friends let alone against a social path who may be sweaty or bloodly and very aggressive and hard to "hold" on to. Thanks for the time! Chris
40chrisk 2 months ago
@40chrisk I don't see a problem studying difficult technique in the studio. You never know if you will use it someday in some unknown context. Also keep in mind that when you are the heat of it, you will only do the technique that you would naturally respond with. Most likely it will be simple and direct, but you never know. If you never study anything but striking combinations, then you are only limited to beating somebody to a pulp with no way to control them without injuring them.
realkungfusansoo 2 months ago
Agree! Even as a former boxer, I cannot predict which fist(or foot) my workout partner is going to throw, so it only makes good sense that you strike first whenever U can in violence. When U add the fight/flight response, the ability to use some or all of the higher motor skills are kuput. Big windmills seems to make alot of sense to me, since you can do that type of movment under high stress.
40chrisk 2 months ago
@40chrisk Yes, gross motor skills work easier under great stress. Therefore big windmills and swinging, striking movements are easier as well. It really has to do with your mind set at the time of attack. Are you ready, did you see his attack coming, how much time do you have to respond, can you attack him without blocking at all? If so, then you are in complete control and decide what you will do to him. This really is the essence of "Futga" training. This is just my perspective.
realkungfusansoo 2 months ago
For real violence, as in when you lose bowel control under stress of possable death, how practical do U feel the joint breaking/throwing is compaired to the straight out Hung-gar power striking(ah-soo, Nu--pai) Having my partner throwing real hard punches at me, I could in no way pull off most of the Toy-Le-Ho. Maybe I just stink, put the hard-core striking was the only thing that worked when he was really hitting me.
40chrisk 2 months ago
@40chrisk Not all of the "Tsoi Li Ho" are breaking/throwing/joint lock type lessons. Many of them are striking and kicking combinations. The "ah'soo and Num'pi" lessons are more simplified than the "Tsoi Li Ho" lessons and that alone makes them more practical for the fighter of an average skill level. Simple is easier and simple will work more often then something more complicated.
realkungfusansoo 2 months ago
@40chrisk Although it depends on the level of someone's ability to use the Kung Fu they have learned. Confidence and proven performance, or the concept of "Fut'ga", are essential to any combat training you pursue. Fut'ga lessons teach you to go in and claim the prey that you have decided to devour. Like a predator animal stalking prey or fighting another rival wild animal. The one who is attacking with the intensity to overcome his opponent will most likely claim victory and live.
realkungfusansoo 2 months ago
@40chrisk In our culture people seem to want to fight to prove how tough they are. It's like a macho/pride thing. Fighting is ugly and can permanently disfigure someone or kill them instantly. How hard is it to crush a throat or take out someone's eye? I will ONLY fight if it is necessary for the survival of my family, myself or someone in need of help. To train with precision and focus, as with firearms training, should be our priority. AND hope to never have to use it on the street.
realkungfusansoo 2 months ago
San Soo will never be lost as long as there are instructors like yourself sharing it so openly. The more quality black belts you produce insures the art will endure.
MrBigdaddy8 2 months ago
@MrBigdaddy8 Thank you.
realkungfusansoo 2 months ago
Very informative! Thanks so much for this series.
sansoothug 3 months ago