TEDxLosGatos - Sandra Faber - Our cosmic past, our cosmic future

[ozdexter]

this is absurd. Absurd I tell you! This woman is clearly a Libertarian.

[RadioactiveBraunMan]

wow, naive hippie crap.. especially for a cosmologist...

obviously exponential consumption of resources is not probable, however, and hats what every "scientist" should know, we do not "consume" anything whatsoever....

Matter changes state, etc, but its not consumed. So if and when the need arises even our current technology would allow us a near perfect recycling system, not to mention the technology we will have at our disposal in a few decades...

ergo, hippie conservationism crap

[DrStrangelove666]

@RadioactiveBraunMan So all that coal and oil we're burning will be there for the next (larger) generation because all that carbon and hydrogen stick around. Deforestation isn't a problem because new continents are bursting forth ready with more forests. It isn't a problem that we're causing species to go extinct at a rate greater than new ones evolve. Our greatest challenge now is people like you who put their political opinions before evidence based science because you hinder adaptation.

[RadioactiveBraunMan]

@DrStrangelove666 evidence based science, alright:

YT doesnt allow me to cite or debunk all of your claims, due to character limit. So please dont take it the wrong way....

anyway, lets just start with coal (btw, hydrogen sticks around? wow thats neat, you should win nobel in chemistry...), 1. theres enough coal to last us for generations to come, 2. coal is just a means to an end as its just a carrier of energy, 3. new energy gathering tech will make coal obsolete in a few decades..

[RadioactiveBraunMan]

@RadioactiveBraunMan global population growth is irrefutably slowing down, pop. in the industrial countries has been effectively declining for 30 years, the fucking UN predicts that we will flat out on about 10-12b people and then see a pop shrink....

furthermore, why do hippies assume that in a few decades, let alone centuries, we will still use the same semi primitive technology that we are using today, if you actually factor in the rate of techn. dev. we as a species are perfectly fine.

[RadioactiveBraunMan]

@RadioactiveBraunMan ohh, and deforestation... deforestation has stopped and is being reversed for decades now in the industrialized world, the few places where proper deforestation still occurs is rural asia/africa/s.america... and guess what those places have in common? theyre poor...

now, even the most pessimistic prognosis estimates that in about 80 years time there will be no human poorer than a rich dutch guy is today, i.e. at the very last that is when deforestation will be gone for gd.

[RadioactiveBraunMan]

@RadioactiveBraunMan the way to actually solve the current, set of problems is through continued techn. progress. As it has always been.

The funny thing is that so few people actually read up on istory, and they dont seem to realize that pretty much every generation has a ultimate doomsday scenario looming right over the horizon, be it; the plague, gods wrath, drowning in horse manure, overpopulation, nuclear apocalypse, or now the impending climate change doom....

so perfectly predictable...

[Zeuts85]

@RadioactiveBraunMan Oh, certainly. I don't think the end of the world is coming. But existential threats like nuclear war and climate change can certainly make me doubt my own future prospects. After all, if climate change upsets the global agricultural market so that a huge percentage of the human population dies off, I can't reasonably expect to survive it myself. Nor do I want to live in a world where most people are killing each other over scarce resources.

[DrStrangelove666]

@RadioactiveBraunMan Ah, didn't realize you were just trolling.

[PADRAEG]

waste of time, & wrong... kinda like Malthus, but modern scientist should know better