What people may not realize is that it was Alys who had trained Chaz for a few years even though she's not a "Main" Character, she's a central plot character that in turn developed Chaz's disposition. When she couldn't fight (Gah what was it that killed her, I haven't played the game for months and I have the Ps2 Collection somewhere) off what was killing her, Chaz's attitude had a serious adjustment, strengthening his resolve to eliminate Zio, as well as the Profound Darkness.
Wow, this theme is great. It fits the scene perfectly. I think Alys' death was the saddest moment I've ever experienced in a video game, even if it was spoiled to me beforehand.
Poor Alys, sacrificed herself to save her protege. This scene in the game made me cry so hard. What do you mean she's dead and she's never coming back?! I think her death was more powerful than the one in PS II as well.
i had just bought my copy and reached the town of tyler, i was standing infront of alis landale's gravestone, and my mom came in and told me my cat, ( who i'd named chaz ) got hit by a car.
Playing through this moment was a scarring thing for me as a child. I think Alys was always one of my favourite chracter and I appreciated having her there even more since I played through PS in order and was wondering if she was a descendant of Alis Landale. ...the promise of a Collection of PS titles where if you played through in order start to finish you could save both Nei and Alys once brought excited me no end.. I always wanted the chance to go back and right this moment. always.
Ah. This was the first game that brought tears to my eyes. And it was when Alys died. She had grown on me. She was tough, determined, straight-forward and quite beautiful too.
Alys wasn't that typical chick in JRPG's out in today's market. She wasn't a pathetic emo either. Her attachment to the player was like that of a mentor figure so you couldn't help but grow envious of her.
I'm still not sure why people are so obsessed with comparing Alys's death with Aeris's. You aren't going to convince and rabid FF7 fan boys that they're wrong. Those people are messed in the head because they're FF7 fanboys to begin with. It's pretty futile.
I honestly feel that this one was a lot more emotional and unexpected. . .They're both pretty powerful moments in their own rights, but this was a tad bit more sad to me. . .
Pretty much. I'd take a retrospective and funeral all paying the proper respects over a bouncy materia, angst and a quick bath, but hey... enlightened, as you say. ;)
This was vastly different from Aeris's death. Alys was Chaz's teacher and mentor--she took him in from the street and taught him everything she knew, and gave him a home where no-one else would. I think this was the most deeply moving death I've seen in an RPG, because of the struggle Chaz faced in whether to move on and fight without her, and his talk with Rune after the fact.
I remember the part where on Rykros later in the game (before you get Megid) how an illusion of Alys attacks Chaz and it devastates him. Really touching story.
I won't really say the death of Aeris was less emotional. If you cared was a matter of if you wanted to see her and Cloud hook up. If you wanted that happy ending, then it's emotional.
Though, I still like how death of Alys played out more. First she takes that big risk to save Chaz from a fatal blow. Then there seams to be a promise of hope if you manage to find Rune and the wand. After returning, you find that nothing could be done to save her life. Better execution, in my opinion.
Let's just say Aeris's death has nothing on this, honestly, this was way more heartfelt to me, because it was not as sudden, it was dragged out, poor Alys. It made me want to kick Zio's ass to oblivion that much more, when I got to him, I remember saying "OK bitch, you're going down!"
But yeah, this scene easily tops Aeris's death by a long shot. Glad to see others who actually agree with me on this one. Long live Phantasy Star.
Aeris died in FF7 and that was very unusual these days. i mean that a main character dies was the most intense element for an rpg. but phantasy star 4 did this already years ago. epic game, a piece of art in video game history
I don't think it would of helped much at this point, you know? I always had the impression Dark Force really whalloped her with this breath attack. Maybe the only reason no one would permanently die in the other fights is because Rune and the Psycho Wand might be some protection against Dark Force's true might. I guess we'll never know.
It's more of a challenge since Alys has no healing magic on her (She's mostly attack magic and slicers). Alys' Nafoi and Vortex were useful in boss fights. You can get Rika at the end of the game before fighting De-Vars and Sa-Lews but you'll have to level her up good and equip her (Xanafalgue code, anyone?).
I'll have to try it out sometime. I wonder if I could keep a low level Rika alive for a Sandworm fight or something, that'd beef her up pretty quick. haha
Heh, thanks. I mean, Aerith's death is a big moment in video game history, but I think a big part of it is I didn't use her very often, so I didn't miss her much.
@DartUchiha Lol! same here bro... Aerith's death was just a bummer like "WTF? sudden stab!?, that sucks...", but it didn't make me cry like Alys's death did, that was the first time i had ever cried to a video game, it scars you that bad...
@Mustadio First time I cried to a video game was The Legend of Dragoon near the end of disc 1. Starts to become my favorite character and BOOM, dead! FFVII did make me cry, but that was for Zack. And don't even start on any of the animes made by Key Visual. I swear every story I read, see in a movie, or a video game that I've played gives me a favorite character from the rest of the cast and later on it is that character that I like that ends up dieing.
I think it would have been cooler if Sega really made you believe Alys was the main character.Like put her on the box art. Why? Well when I played the game for the first time I was kept wondering when something was going to happen to Alys due to the fact she wasn't on the box art.
@thaneros I felt it started to become obvious that she was going to die, because every other character sorta suprasses her- or at least thats what i thought.
@thaneros I never thought she was the main character but I wasn't playing the game thinking when she was going to die. She still seemed like an important character. She seemed like the second main at least. Y'know I just don't really trust game box art especially back then. It just showed whatever they felt was goign to be cool. And back then they were really hit and miss.
Agreed. The boxart for the first one was quite atrocious. The third one came close to making sense, except that the scenery and character didn't match.
@laughingfurry Speaking of, today I found the box of the GBA collection. Rolf is drawn alright, but two other girls on it are really off. I had the cartridge about box the third one game in, that was a good visual, in a music album kinda way.
I agree about the music album comment. Come to think of it, the cover art for the three Genesis titles are almost perfect cover art for most European Metal. Someone like Deathstars or Machinae Supremacy.
As for the two girls on the GBA collection, I don't think it's so bad. Although, if that was supposed to be Alis, it really does look weird. Plus, if that was supposed to be Nei, she doesn't look as bad as on the original Genesis cover, imo.
This song brings tears to my eyes because Alys is my favorite character in the game but at least there is an action replay code that prevents her death
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codehackerzane 2 months ago
What people may not realize is that it was Alys who had trained Chaz for a few years even though she's not a "Main" Character, she's a central plot character that in turn developed Chaz's disposition. When she couldn't fight (Gah what was it that killed her, I haven't played the game for months and I have the Ps2 Collection somewhere) off what was killing her, Chaz's attitude had a serious adjustment, strengthening his resolve to eliminate Zio, as well as the Profound Darkness.
Metroid22540 2 months ago
I thought she was the main character too,
Luson08 2 months ago
needs more cowbell. no seriously, it does.
pdraggy 3 months ago
Wow, this theme is great. It fits the scene perfectly. I think Alys' death was the saddest moment I've ever experienced in a video game, even if it was spoiled to me beforehand.
SegaSquirtle 3 months ago
The one dislike was the convulsing follower in Zio's church.
Ange1234 8 months ago 3
@Ange1234 rofl!!! just... rofl!!
Mustadio 2 months ago
This was the first death scene I ever saw in a video game, it was a shock to say the least.
ReinaHW 8 months ago
when hearing this, i always feel guilty.... couldn't save that fine woman!
NebilimXYZ 9 months ago
its not just alys' death its her illusion battle at anger tower
shadmart 9 months ago
me: hmm im bored
justin bieber comes
OMFG JUSTIN BEIBER
IM GONNA KILL U!!
song plays
supgirlz21 10 months ago
if i remember aerith save the entire planet from destruction by awakening holy, and got killed by sephiroth after her task was done
NINETALEDEAMONFOX 11 months ago
Perfect game and song...
PhantomX141291 1 year ago
Poor Alys, sacrificed herself to save her protege. This scene in the game made me cry so hard. What do you mean she's dead and she's never coming back?! I think her death was more powerful than the one in PS II as well.
alysbrangwin 1 year ago
Most tragic video game death. Worse than Aeris' :(
TerranMeUp 1 year ago
@TerranMeUp It tops Aerith's death because Alys saved Chaz from utter destruction while Cloud stood there watching as his woman was slain.
Krushak8888 1 year ago
@Krushak8888 You have to admit that although it was obvious to everyone but Cloud, he still couldn't have anticipated that.
straightedgectb 11 months ago
@straightedgectb Perhaps but I never played 7 but I hear how it was painfully obvious that he came down and sliced her in half with his mighty blade.
Krushak8888 11 months ago
@straightedgectb people do say it's overrated, i've beaten it about 3 times now, but i't still an incredible game.
straightedgectb 11 months ago
This song is such a tearjerker...Alys was so awesome. :(
xGolbezx 1 year ago
When I fought Zio for the second time, I yelled: YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR ALYS'S DEATH!
Sega > SquareSoft
AxtheHell 1 year ago
i had just bought my copy and reached the town of tyler, i was standing infront of alis landale's gravestone, and my mom came in and told me my cat, ( who i'd named chaz ) got hit by a car.
sad as it may seem
this game is epic i reccommend it to everyone.
must play.
LordCinderWalk 1 year ago
ALYS! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! </3
xGolbezx 1 year ago
@xGolbezx
Alys,
She was & still is, my beloved daughter.
OceanPrincess631978 1 year ago
Playing through this moment was a scarring thing for me as a child. I think Alys was always one of my favourite chracter and I appreciated having her there even more since I played through PS in order and was wondering if she was a descendant of Alis Landale. ...the promise of a Collection of PS titles where if you played through in order start to finish you could save both Nei and Alys once brought excited me no end.. I always wanted the chance to go back and right this moment. always.
KoalaNoMarch 1 year ago
Who was the one Final Fantasy Fanboy that Disliked this?
u78550 1 year ago 3
zio fucks shit up
omarhjawaid 1 year ago 2
Ah. This was the first game that brought tears to my eyes. And it was when Alys died. She had grown on me. She was tough, determined, straight-forward and quite beautiful too.
Trapster2 1 year ago
Alys wasn't that typical chick in JRPG's out in today's market. She wasn't a pathetic emo either. Her attachment to the player was like that of a mentor figure so you couldn't help but grow envious of her.
ZiotheZero 1 year ago
Beautiful. T_T.
Dear sweet Alys,
You are now free of this mortal coil, yet you will remain in my heart forever.
Sweetheart, you are very precious to me.
The strange thing is, I have not played the game (yet).
OceanPrincess631978 1 year ago
Why couldn't it of been Hawn!?!
hypertreb 1 year ago 3
@hypertreb What?! Hahn is awesome! You mean, Rika, right? It'd keep with the whole "Numan dies" thing.
chocobunneh 2 months ago
I hate it when characters die
ChrisBurr555555 1 year ago
Gryz should've died instead. Damn!
gm182 1 year ago
I'm still not sure why people are so obsessed with comparing Alys's death with Aeris's. You aren't going to convince and rabid FF7 fan boys that they're wrong. Those people are messed in the head because they're FF7 fanboys to begin with. It's pretty futile.
We're the enlightened. Don't tell anyone. :3
GM1188 1 year ago
I honestly feel that this one was a lot more emotional and unexpected. . .They're both pretty powerful moments in their own rights, but this was a tad bit more sad to me. . .
Plus Alys was such a badass.
Normal1S 1 year ago
@GM1188
Pretty much. I'd take a retrospective and funeral all paying the proper respects over a bouncy materia, angst and a quick bath, but hey... enlightened, as you say. ;)
jayextee 1 year ago
This was vastly different from Aeris's death. Alys was Chaz's teacher and mentor--she took him in from the street and taught him everything she knew, and gave him a home where no-one else would. I think this was the most deeply moving death I've seen in an RPG, because of the struggle Chaz faced in whether to move on and fight without her, and his talk with Rune after the fact.
Talansekaro 2 years ago 3
I remember the part where on Rykros later in the game (before you get Megid) how an illusion of Alys attacks Chaz and it devastates him. Really touching story.
Applestreudel 2 years ago
I won't really say the death of Aeris was less emotional. If you cared was a matter of if you wanted to see her and Cloud hook up. If you wanted that happy ending, then it's emotional.
Though, I still like how death of Alys played out more. First she takes that big risk to save Chaz from a fatal blow. Then there seams to be a promise of hope if you manage to find Rune and the wand. After returning, you find that nothing could be done to save her life. Better execution, in my opinion.
laughingfurry 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this one; have the game but it's nice to not have to go dig out the genesis or an emulator for it.
That being said, the Aeris vs Alys death comparison is, as stated, hardly a comparison at all. Alys's was just on a totally different level.
When Alys died, I cried, even after several times through the game, always has such impact.
Aeris? She didn't have much emotional attachment on her in the first place, and it was worth it just to see Sephy kill someone.
Kizkit 2 years ago 2
Let's just say Aeris's death has nothing on this, honestly, this was way more heartfelt to me, because it was not as sudden, it was dragged out, poor Alys. It made me want to kick Zio's ass to oblivion that much more, when I got to him, I remember saying "OK bitch, you're going down!"
But yeah, this scene easily tops Aeris's death by a long shot. Glad to see others who actually agree with me on this one. Long live Phantasy Star.
IcedEarthaholic 2 years ago 8
@IcedEarthaholic
U speak of Aeris and Alys :)
Aeris died in FF7 and that was very unusual these days. i mean that a main character dies was the most intense element for an rpg. but phantasy star 4 did this already years ago. epic game, a piece of art in video game history
NebilimXYZ 2 years ago
Perfect theme for a depressing moment such as Alys' death...
Really gives me a sunken feeling.
pokeError 2 years ago
Oh hey, I got Alys the Laser Slasher and got her to learn Deathstr-- FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU
orunir 2 years ago 3
Haha, it was totally like that for me, too. I think I also had Gifoi.
Arrowdodger 2 years ago
If only Rune learned the tech "REVER" to revive Alys...
Julienfun 2 years ago
I don't think it would of helped much at this point, you know? I always had the impression Dark Force really whalloped her with this breath attack. Maybe the only reason no one would permanently die in the other fights is because Rune and the Psycho Wand might be some protection against Dark Force's true might. I guess we'll never know.
Arrowdodger 2 years ago
I highly recommend using Kaloes' Alys trick on the emulator if you want to use her in the final battle.
KurtmanJP 2 years ago
Is that the one that replaces Rika. I dunno, I like Rika a lot. Still, it'd be fun to try once.
Arrowdodger 2 years ago
It's more of a challenge since Alys has no healing magic on her (She's mostly attack magic and slicers). Alys' Nafoi and Vortex were useful in boss fights. You can get Rika at the end of the game before fighting De-Vars and Sa-Lews but you'll have to level her up good and equip her (Xanafalgue code, anyone?).
KurtmanJP 2 years ago
I'll have to try it out sometime. I wonder if I could keep a low level Rika alive for a Sandworm fight or something, that'd beef her up pretty quick. haha
Arrowdodger 2 years ago
Chazz; What am I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOOOOOR!!! that is what he should say if they remake this game with voice overs!!
demonicanthonyalbert 2 years ago
too bad zero from megaman already said that quote xD
benjamillion 2 years ago
Didn't Chaz actually say something like that after Alys' death?
grenadier42 2 years ago
umm no... he didn't even shout anything
benjamillion 2 years ago
I was referring to after Alys' death on the balcony talking with Rune. Y'know, star-lit sky and all that. :D
grenadier42 2 years ago
its so sad
starfire6789 2 years ago
I thought nei's death was way more sad. Actually I felt nothing at all when Alys died the first time I played through the game, weird.
iraqijournalist 3 years ago
Still, got to admit it tops Aerith's death.
Arrowdodger 2 years ago 33
I was going to post the exact same thing as you (about it topping Aeris/Aerith's death) hah I thought I was the only one that thought that o_o
maxpeg 2 years ago
Heh, thanks. I mean, Aerith's death is a big moment in video game history, but I think a big part of it is I didn't use her very often, so I didn't miss her much.
Arrowdodger 2 years ago
@Arrowdodger
Seconded.
Aerith's death was really melodramatic, almost to a theatrical level. Whether or not that works, well, depends on how much you liked Aerith.
Alys, though...damn, her death was way more realistic. It was slow, painful, and all you could do was sit and watch as she succumbed to her demise.
Levitz9 1 year ago
@Arrowdodger Yeah, I cried when Alys died. Not a tear ever went to Aerith. I was filled with rage towards Zio after this scene.
DartUchiha 3 months ago
@DartUchiha Lol! same here bro... Aerith's death was just a bummer like "WTF? sudden stab!?, that sucks...", but it didn't make me cry like Alys's death did, that was the first time i had ever cried to a video game, it scars you that bad...
Mustadio 2 months ago
@Mustadio First time I cried to a video game was The Legend of Dragoon near the end of disc 1. Starts to become my favorite character and BOOM, dead! FFVII did make me cry, but that was for Zack. And don't even start on any of the animes made by Key Visual. I swear every story I read, see in a movie, or a video game that I've played gives me a favorite character from the rest of the cast and later on it is that character that I like that ends up dieing.
DartUchiha 2 months ago
you should have kept the music going. it eventually stops
benjamillion 3 years ago
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demonicanthonyalbert 3 years ago
A very heart felt moment in the game.
I was shocked when i saw dis part and this music in the BG...wow.
richter3456 3 years ago
The first game that actually made me truly sad when someone died or whatever. It actually makes me cry.
Trapster2 3 years ago 4
I think it would have been cooler if Sega really made you believe Alys was the main character.Like put her on the box art. Why? Well when I played the game for the first time I was kept wondering when something was going to happen to Alys due to the fact she wasn't on the box art.
thaneros 3 years ago 3
Indeed. I also thought Alys was one of the main characters. But since she wasn't in the box art, it was obvious.
MushroomBoy64 3 years ago
@MushroomBoy64 well you can't say that, I mean look at ps1. That girl was on the box art and the hint book.
shade231 1 year ago
@MushroomBoy64 I never SAW the box art, I played this on Sega Channel, so it actually shocked the ever-loving crap out of me and left deep scars.
NickCaligo42 2 months ago
@thaneros I felt it started to become obvious that she was going to die, because every other character sorta suprasses her- or at least thats what i thought.
Shishizurui 8 months ago
@thaneros I never thought she was the main character but I wasn't playing the game thinking when she was going to die. She still seemed like an important character. She seemed like the second main at least. Y'know I just don't really trust game box art especially back then. It just showed whatever they felt was goign to be cool. And back then they were really hit and miss.
GadGades 8 months ago
@GadGades
Agreed. The boxart for the first one was quite atrocious. The third one came close to making sense, except that the scenery and character didn't match.
laughingfurry 8 months ago
@laughingfurry Speaking of, today I found the box of the GBA collection. Rolf is drawn alright, but two other girls on it are really off. I had the cartridge about box the third one game in, that was a good visual, in a music album kinda way.
GadGades 8 months ago
@GadGades
I agree about the music album comment. Come to think of it, the cover art for the three Genesis titles are almost perfect cover art for most European Metal. Someone like Deathstars or Machinae Supremacy.
As for the two girls on the GBA collection, I don't think it's so bad. Although, if that was supposed to be Alis, it really does look weird. Plus, if that was supposed to be Nei, she doesn't look as bad as on the original Genesis cover, imo.
laughingfurry 8 months ago
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demonicanthonyalbert 3 years ago
This song brings tears to my eyes because Alys is my favorite character in the game but at least there is an action replay code that prevents her death
demonicanthonyalbert 3 years ago 2
Yeah, a lot of people have said that.
MushroomBoy64 3 years ago
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demonicanthonyalbert 3 years ago
poor alys, if only chaz or rune had a better plan of defeating zio...
benjamillion 3 years ago 13
This song can get to you
ecco419 3 years ago 8
Finally someone comments on this.
MushroomBoy64 3 years ago