@ViennasNachos du magst recht haben an der Flottenstärke! Aber die Bismarck und Tirpitz haben den Engländer mächtig angst eingejagt :) Churchill sagte der Tirpitz sogar "The Beast" und die Bismarck hat die HMS Hood im nu Versenkt aber war unterlegen gegen die anderen Schlachtschiffe und dann kamen noch die britischen Flieger... eigentlich unfair aber so ist krieg
Great footage, first time seen it. Gneisenau visible by different mast set up ..further aft. Was this the sinking of the old carrier Glorious? Scharnhorst eventually got her karma being sunk by the battleship HMS Duke of york,
Actually it was Scharnhorst which had her mainmast stepped further aft following her refit. Gneisenau retained hers mounted on the rear of the funnel after the fitting of her 'Atlantic bow"
the German fleet was too poor. . the italian navy was even more powerful. . the only piece to consider was the bismarck the tirpiz and maybe the prinz eugen. . only the u-boot were keeping head
Despite the impression this news reel gives the Kriegsmarine was unprepared when the war broke out in September 1939. She wanted it to be postponed until at least 1942.
Ist sicher nur ein Zufall das der schwere Torpedotreffer den die "Scharnhorst" von der HMS "Acasta" einstecken mußte hier nicht erwähnt wird - immerhin war der Schlachtkreuzer danach 4 Monate (!)aktionsunfähig.
Mounting 15in guns on Scharnhorst wouldn't have ghanged anything. She was sunk by radar linked to a early analog computer system which worked out the range.
Also the british were using flashless cordite so she couldn't even see her aggressors. As acknowledged by the kreigsmarine.
Her crew abandonded ship in a -40 snow storm covered in oil.
the cordite wasn'T the cause - Scharnhorst lost radar in an earlier battle that trip; allied had destroyers; Scharnhorst got hit and slowed, only so Duke of York could catch up; Like Bismarck, the engines were still running; A german ship never exploded like HMS Barham, Hood, Royal Oak, Queen Elizabeth, Indefatigable, Queen Mary...
with radar and destroyers the battle might have ended differently
the Scharnhorst was not so "heroic" when faced with anysort of opposition that might be able to shoot back, eg running when she and Gneisnau encountered HMS Renown and avoiding convoys that had battleship escorts
It's called suicide to attack battleships with battlecruisers and the fight between the HMS Renown and the KMS Gneisenau ended in no conclusion with both ships damaged.
1207 went down on the Glorious and the RN still wont reveal Y the Captain of the HMS Glorious, D'Oyly-Hughes, ex 1st WW submariner, (who didn't believe in naval reconnaissance!) was so eager for the court martial of his best officers. Their testimony wd have branded him an incompetent alcoholic. Instead they ALL paid full price for d'O-H's stupidity and Churchills permission for HMS G. 2 leave 2 days b4 main convoy!
Heroic, and lucky, especialy for me as one of them was my father. You could say that I owe a debt of gratitude to those who pulled him from that frozen sea.
Die britische Flotte zählte zwar mehr Schiffe als die Kriegsmarine, aber dieser Vorsprung war aufgrund der überlegenen deutschen Technik nichts wert. Deshalb hat die Kriegsmarine die allermeisten Seegefechte mit ausgewogener Gegnerzahl für Deutschland entschieden. Das können die meisten Fish&Chips-Fresser nicht ertragen, und daher verwundert es auch kaum, dass die bei diesem Thema ausrasten und geschichtliche Halbwahrheiten verbreiten. Man sieht sie dann bei der EM 2012...vielleicht ;-)
Scharnhorst fired over 200 280mm rounds alone. The destroyers were dealt with using 150mm and 105mm secondary guns. After the action, Admiral Marschall was sacked for disobeying orders, getting Scharnhorst damaged as a result. This made Günther Lütjens the Fleet Chief who got to command the Bismarck on her fateful maiden journey into the Atlantic.
sick how they never stopped firing, it was obviously going down, so everyone will have been abandonning ship, but the Gneisenau and Scharnhorst shot it to shit. well humaine.
neneneneneeeeeee, dass ist realität die im nachinein von den siegern als propaganda dargestellt wurde um die öffentliche sicherheit im besetzten deutschland sicher zu stellen
That´s a typical reaction whenever a german sight of WW2 is shown anywhere...if you don´t like it, don´t watch it. This is not only Propaganda, it´s a part of technical history of shipbuilding and engineering.
Why did the narrator said it was 26000 tons? Was he deliberately lying?
Artas1984 5 months ago
lol i heard that these ships assfucked UK aircarriers without planes LOL rofl spartan ships
gloi2 2 years ago
Was it real footage taken in the war scene, or some modified version?
plarq 3 years ago
Englische Marine war besser als die Deutsch.
Das war immer so und wird auch immer so bleiben...
ViennasNachos 3 years ago
naja das war so ist richtig aber IMMER so sein is falsch Deutschland besitzt mehr kriegsschiffe als england ...und hat ne groessere marine . is fakt
leopard39 3 years ago 2
@ViennasNachos du magst recht haben an der Flottenstärke! Aber die Bismarck und Tirpitz haben den Engländer mächtig angst eingejagt :) Churchill sagte der Tirpitz sogar "The Beast" und die Bismarck hat die HMS Hood im nu Versenkt aber war unterlegen gegen die anderen Schlachtschiffe und dann kamen noch die britischen Flieger... eigentlich unfair aber so ist krieg
braunovic 1 year ago
Great footage, first time seen it. Gneisenau visible by different mast set up ..further aft. Was this the sinking of the old carrier Glorious? Scharnhorst eventually got her karma being sunk by the battleship HMS Duke of york,
hoplite1766 3 years ago
Actually it was Scharnhorst which had her mainmast stepped further aft following her refit. Gneisenau retained hers mounted on the rear of the funnel after the fitting of her 'Atlantic bow"
littmann03 3 years ago
63 Jahre nach dem zweiten Weltkrieg wird hier immer noch weitergekämpft...
Alles Arschlöcher.
Tee- wie Kaffeesäufer!
mannekkenpiss 3 years ago
Deutsche Präzisionsarbeit auf hoher See :-)
xxkiksx 3 years ago 9
the German fleet was too poor. . the italian navy was even more powerful. . the only piece to consider was the bismarck the tirpiz and maybe the prinz eugen. . only the u-boot were keeping head
gaslopovo 4 years ago
*lol*
Legas4ever 4 years ago
more powerful maybe but the effect was less than zero...
LeonhardMunich 4 years ago
Danke fürs reinstellen!
Mein Opa hat mir immer von der Wochenschau erzählt, aber nirgends konnt ich sowas sehen.
Blechbert 4 years ago 2
Hammer Material, danke!
Cumulonimbus82 4 years ago
Despite the impression this news reel gives the Kriegsmarine was unprepared when the war broke out in September 1939. She wanted it to be postponed until at least 1942.
saigokun 4 years ago
this is true, they wanted aircraft carriers and had more powerfull ships than Bismark/Tirpitz in the pipeline
dougstiro 4 years ago
Ist sicher nur ein Zufall das der schwere Torpedotreffer den die "Scharnhorst" von der HMS "Acasta" einstecken mußte hier nicht erwähnt wird - immerhin war der Schlachtkreuzer danach 4 Monate (!)aktionsunfähig.
Rbbberlin 4 years ago
hat Propaganda so an sich du Schlaumeier
maggytec 4 years ago
Sound is all in german.
daltonagre 4 years ago
Oh, really?
ZweiWO 4 years ago
Must be somehow a coincidence.... wasn't it the GERMAN news?
DQ0X 4 years ago
Mounting 15in guns on Scharnhorst wouldn't have ghanged anything. She was sunk by radar linked to a early analog computer system which worked out the range.
Also the british were using flashless cordite so she couldn't even see her aggressors. As acknowledged by the kreigsmarine.
Her crew abandonded ship in a -40 snow storm covered in oil.
senseless waste of life all round.
derbbus 4 years ago
more loss of life than in TITANIC...
the cordite wasn'T the cause - Scharnhorst lost radar in an earlier battle that trip; allied had destroyers; Scharnhorst got hit and slowed, only so Duke of York could catch up; Like Bismarck, the engines were still running; A german ship never exploded like HMS Barham, Hood, Royal Oak, Queen Elizabeth, Indefatigable, Queen Mary...
with radar and destroyers the battle might have ended differently
DQ0X 4 years ago 3
the Scharnhorst was not so "heroic" when faced with anysort of opposition that might be able to shoot back, eg running when she and Gneisnau encountered HMS Renown and avoiding convoys that had battleship escorts
persilbran 4 years ago
It's called suicide to attack battleships with battlecruisers and the fight between the HMS Renown and the KMS Gneisenau ended in no conclusion with both ships damaged.
havoc873 4 years ago
to be honest the Renown didnt have anywhere near the armour of the german ship
dougstiro 4 years ago
When the Scharnhorst was sunk there were 39 survivors. Take a moment and think about the word heroic.
z122643 4 years ago
Heroic enough that the british commander later dropped flowers in the sea at the site were SCHARNHORST sunk
RIP 1803 brave men, almost forgotten
(more casualties than HOOD, Royal Oak, ARIZONA, Titanic, Lusitania)
DQ0X 4 years ago 8
1207 went down on the Glorious and the RN still wont reveal Y the Captain of the HMS Glorious, D'Oyly-Hughes, ex 1st WW submariner, (who didn't believe in naval reconnaissance!) was so eager for the court martial of his best officers. Their testimony wd have branded him an incompetent alcoholic. Instead they ALL paid full price for d'O-H's stupidity and Churchills permission for HMS G. 2 leave 2 days b4 main convoy!
slessorpr 4 years ago
Heroic, and lucky, especialy for me as one of them was my father. You could say that I owe a debt of gratitude to those who pulled him from that frozen sea.
zederkiah 4 years ago
OMG!!! The english received lots of "hello darling". Superb film!
pepe237 4 years ago
German engineering at their best!!
toolwerkz 4 years ago 3
Human losing lives dont come into it.....You Bastard crout
technocar2 4 years ago
Die britische Flotte zählte zwar mehr Schiffe als die Kriegsmarine, aber dieser Vorsprung war aufgrund der überlegenen deutschen Technik nichts wert. Deshalb hat die Kriegsmarine die allermeisten Seegefechte mit ausgewogener Gegnerzahl für Deutschland entschieden. Das können die meisten Fish&Chips-Fresser nicht ertragen, und daher verwundert es auch kaum, dass die bei diesem Thema ausrasten und geschichtliche Halbwahrheiten verbreiten. Man sieht sie dann bei der EM 2012...vielleicht ;-)
syase 4 years ago 4
blanker Blödsinn, sorry, aber das muss gesagt werden!
LeonhardMunich 4 years ago
nicht wirklich. Anfällige Turpinenanlage, überkommende See auf dem Vorschiff, zu schwache Hauptartillerie...da gab´s noch einiges zu optimieren.
LeonhardMunich 4 years ago
Scharnhorst fired over 200 280mm rounds alone. The destroyers were dealt with using 150mm and 105mm secondary guns. After the action, Admiral Marschall was sacked for disobeying orders, getting Scharnhorst damaged as a result. This made Günther Lütjens the Fleet Chief who got to command the Bismarck on her fateful maiden journey into the Atlantic.
a6u5e 4 years ago
sick how they never stopped firing, it was obviously going down, so everyone will have been abandonning ship, but the Gneisenau and Scharnhorst shot it to shit. well humaine.
joneebee 4 years ago
@ jonee, Scharnhorst and the Gneisenau were also shooting at the destroyers and BTW to sink an Aircraftcarrier you have to fire a lot of shells.
Held225 4 years ago
a sinking ship is given no quarter, just look what happened to the Bismarck
r1wantone 4 years ago
YYYYAAAA!! Scharnhorst sunk 1943 - great British victory!
MEDENINE 4 years ago
propaganda?
neneneneneeeeeee, dass ist realität die im nachinein von den siegern als propaganda dargestellt wurde um die öffentliche sicherheit im besetzten deutschland sicher zu stellen
finfre 4 years ago 2
bla
Schlachtpaulchen 4 years ago
It's very important to keep Historical Documents such as this!!!
hoimieke 4 years ago 5
Sink Hitler's Bismark!!!
WesleyHughes 4 years ago
It was still the Bismarck - and believe it or not: the Bismarck was sunk in 1941. Your wish comes a bit too late...;-)
LeonhardMunich 4 years ago
PURE NAZI PROPAGANDA incl. NAZI SYMBOLS !!!!!!!!!!
grabbor 4 years ago
That´s a typical reaction whenever a german sight of WW2 is shown anywhere...if you don´t like it, don´t watch it. This is not only Propaganda, it´s a part of technical history of shipbuilding and engineering.
DonMichael71 4 years ago 4
Oh, the horror!
jamesknechtmann 2 years ago
there twins!
handxgrenadexx 4 years ago
elegant ships
Xterraman 5 years ago 6