@drainard i just discovered this myself! i've been learning and performing pat's music for years but thought i'd never overcome the technical hurdle of this lick. this shortcut unfortunately doesn't accommodate his increasingly frequent "string-skipping" variations of it, but it's a boon for us sweep-pickers. hooray, and thanks for posting!
Yes. That's the ticket. There's a variation where the 3rd note is a pull off, meaning you only pick the first two notes. Pat is the very picture of efficiency.
Daniel, this is amazing! The sonic difference between a hammeron and a picked note are really what gives it that instant "This is Metheny" feel and sound. I totally relate to your 'holy grail' experience. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I think it's useful to practice this idea over all the chord scales you can. Apply it over a tunes and make it your own. The reason it is Metheny's signature lick is that seemingly no one else has worked it up to a level of performance to make something new out of it. I think this is a technique that deserves more recognition. Like Wes and his octaves, Metheny's jumping positions or whatever you want to call it is a kind of revolutionary approach.
@drainard Wouldn't F/G resolve to C? I guess it depends. Just playing an F/G, I'm hearing a G9sus4, so there's a dominant 7 thing, minus the B, but still... going to G just sounds a little "different" -- nice, though.
would it be possible for you to add what the harmony is going on underneath the phrase? what tune it is that he's playing over in this example? that sure would be a good thing to know - for many reasonms.
Best 4 seconds on all youtube. thank you.
14luisalonso 1 year ago
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gbtayc 1 year ago
@gbtayc
I worked on the studio version of “Have You Heard” which has this type of lick.
It might be different than the lick you listened to.
In the lick I learned I think he is sliding into the fourth note from a step below which is picked then slid
That’s what it sounds like to me when I slowed it down to a snail’s pace with a program called transcribe
That is a generalization He mixes up things quite a bit
I think he has the ability to pick that fast in string skipping situations
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gbtayc 1 year ago
i find it easier to play without the hmmer on , instead i use economy picking , down , down , up , up(the hammered note)
faopus14 1 year ago
The 2nd and 3rd notes of each beat can be played with a single upstroke. This makes the pattern very do-able at faster tempos.
drainard 1 year ago
@drainard i just discovered this myself! i've been learning and performing pat's music for years but thought i'd never overcome the technical hurdle of this lick. this shortcut unfortunately doesn't accommodate his increasingly frequent "string-skipping" variations of it, but it's a boon for us sweep-pickers. hooray, and thanks for posting!
kuitarl 1 year ago
So you're hammering on every note on the 5th string with your middle finger? Is that what the notation says?
iamthewalrus911 1 year ago
Yes. That's the ticket. There's a variation where the 3rd note is a pull off, meaning you only pick the first two notes. Pat is the very picture of efficiency.
drainard 1 year ago
Very well done. Thank you.
SPGGuitar251 2 years ago
Daniel, this is amazing! The sonic difference between a hammeron and a picked note are really what gives it that instant "This is Metheny" feel and sound. I totally relate to your 'holy grail' experience. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
evascud 2 years ago
Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad that you found this useful.
drainard 2 years ago
does he use his little finger or this finger for the high notes.. seems fingering is really key here !
JOHNNYG99X 2 years ago
Yes.
drainard 2 years ago
this is hard to pull off.. thanks for sharing. back to practice !
JOHNNYG99X 2 years ago
yes, the context really counts, but it´s a really good lick.
Brunototguitar 2 years ago
I think it's useful to practice this idea over all the chord scales you can. Apply it over a tunes and make it your own. The reason it is Metheny's signature lick is that seemingly no one else has worked it up to a level of performance to make something new out of it. I think this is a technique that deserves more recognition. Like Wes and his octaves, Metheny's jumping positions or whatever you want to call it is a kind of revolutionary approach.
drainard 2 years ago
These two bars are F/G and resolve to G in the next bar. The technique is the thing but I agree that context is important. Thanks for asking.
drainard 2 years ago
@drainard Wouldn't F/G resolve to C? I guess it depends. Just playing an F/G, I'm hearing a G9sus4, so there's a dominant 7 thing, minus the B, but still... going to G just sounds a little "different" -- nice, though.
inky960 9 months ago
@inky960 Yeah. I hear G9sus4 too. Slash chords are just a convenience of writing. They're easier to fit in a score I suppose.
drainard 9 months ago
cool dan.
would it be possible for you to add what the harmony is going on underneath the phrase? what tune it is that he's playing over in this example? that sure would be a good thing to know - for many reasonms.
thedwork 2 years ago