is this legal? and i mean someone who is informed about official FIFA rules and not some dumb redneck who thinks he knows about football.
i tried this once, i headed the ball away from the keeper while he was bouncing it but the referee called a foul. it was on a lower league though, and i always wondered what the actual rule says.
@chrism216 No. Not a goal, since the goal kick that the ref called for had not gone through yet. Would've been a goal if RVP waited until after Hart's foot had touched it.
@chrism216 if hart had connected with his foot to the ball and then persie had taken it it would have been acceptable. Under these circumstances, it's basically the same as Hart having the ball in two hands, it was an illegal interference of play.
so he was gonna give 'ungentlemanly conduct' against van Persie....at the same time when van Persie was the only arsenal player there but Kompany, Dunne and Richards were following the referee too? is that gentlemanly conduct or is it trying to influence the referee into giving a booking?
@degekkejoop when the goalkeeper has the ball in his hands and kicks it, he still has control of the ball, it doesn't matter that the ball was in the air. "controlling the ball involves(...) tossing it up in the air" It's strange, but that's the way it is.
What, so sending Kompany off for no reason is right then??
Unsporting behaviour is every time Rooney doesn't like a challenge during a game of football he sprints over to the ref and squares upto him until they give him the decision he wants. This happens almost every game.
@FamousMovieScenes09 grow up u little faggot. did ur mother drop u as a child?.. stop making negative comments on youtube then if u don't want any come-backs.
@Busher50 The myth about being able to take the ball if it is is one hand not two is untrue, hence why it is a myth. The FA said it was a "myth spread on the streets".
for everyone saying "how come that wasn't allowed" the rules state that a goalkeeper taking a drop kick is one motion, therefore taking the ball between it leaving his hand and hitting his foot is considered a foul (and it is potentially dangerous)
@eljeffegooner18 that's clearly fair, as the ball has left the goalie's hands, it's just like the keeper throwing the ball to him, no difference whatsoever
It clearly states in the rules goalkeeper most have both hands on ball to be in controll of the ball . Hart didnt have any hands on the ball . If an outfield player did it it would be ok so why not the goalkeeper
@skumstar That wasn't dangerous, keeper tossed the ball, RVP got it away without getting near the keeper. Keeper has to have two hands on the ball to be "in possession"
To all you serious people out there, that's a goal. Out of all the times this has happened 85 percent of the the time its classed as a goal. As soon as the ball is out of the keepers hands its anyone's ball. Some of you are basically saying that if the keeper had the ball near him its in his control. Haha.
The rules are so clear on this and its been explained so many times, its illegal if the ball is deemed in the keepers control. The action of releasing the ball to kick it out of your hands is considered 'in control' and therefore plucking it out of the air mid-kick like that is not allowed and the player doing so gets a booking. I dont know why this happens every 2-3 seasons and suddenly the debate starts up again? its not allowed, end of.
Call it 'ungentlemanly conduct' if you like, but don't claim that the keeper's "in control of the ball." No he's bloody not - van Persie took it off him! If I hired someone to be in control of my phone, and someone nicked it off them, I'd refuse to pay him!
@markus1312 What about the Nani vs Tottenham? Goals like that are the suposed "death of football" yet it's acceptable when it's Man Utd.
Also - read the rulebook? "A player can only take the ball from the Goal Keeper when the keeper has only one hand on the ball or is in the process of kicking it." So, what was that?
@markus1312 The rules state "A player can only take the ball from the Goal Keeper when the keeper has only one hand on the ball or is in the process of kicking it." Does he have 1 hand on it, or is he in the process of kicking it?
He had one hand on it, drops it and is in the process of kicking it, that covers BOTH "ifs" so it IS a goal. End of.
The ball had been released from the keepers hands making the ball fair game to anyone on the pitch. the goal should of stood but at the end of the day the ref's word is final.
it is a goal because the keeper has to have to 2 hands on the ball for it to be in his control so it should have been counted and also no man city player complained because they all thought it was a goal
Even as a Gooner, I gotta admit that's not a goal. If he'd blocked it after Hart kicked it it would be fine but because Hart hadn't kicked it, he was technically still in control of the ball, and van Persie cant do that while he is.
@fluffymole0913 If you check the rulebook, the keeper must have the ball in two hands for it to be classed as "under his control". It's not even as if Hart had it in two hands before dropping it to kick it, he had it in one hand. Van Persie would've been within his rights to flick it off Harts hand (providing he didn't touch Hart).
It should've been a goal. Not that it matters, but it should've.
@Dave16101991 just to make clear the rules says that until it touches the ground (if he rolls it out or drops it, not if he kicks it) then its still in the keeper 'possession' stupid i know
@lfchoganlfc ive seen the keeper try to throw the ball to his teammate to counter attack and the throw got cut off in the air and it wasnt a foul. why the hell should this be a foul?
@Dave16101991 Yeah but if they were the rules that it was allowed then keepers wouldn't be able to ever kick the ball and players would be constantly harassing the goalies when the ball is leaving their possession. There would be about 50 indirect free-kicks given inside the box per game for simply keeping hold of the ball for longer than 6 seconds.
So in conclusion to your question you have asked me, the answer is no it should not be allowed, period.
the commentator of fifa 98 n64 xD
TheGazFull 1 day ago
KURCINA
bekimufc 1 day ago
GOAL
YounghomieGL 1 day ago
best attacker in the world 3>
semoution 1 day ago
WTF It's Goal!!!!
TheKakReality 2 days ago
That was clearly a goal the ref is crazy!!
StridentCorn90 3 days ago
How is this not a goal? There is no rule against it. the goalkeeper did not have the ball in his hands.
Joricky12 3 days ago
Wel done RVP Copy from Legend Thierry Henry...
Tube8Fei 3 days ago 2
only a dirty arsenal player would try something like this. what is that saying again? oh yeah arsenal always cheating
ryangva 3 days ago
@ryangva Ronaldinho once did the same and that one did counted so we're measuring with two different standards :/
lalwhyumad 3 days ago
@ryangva lol, you're obviously an arsenal hater. So many other players have done this, but you have to point out the most irrelevant thing. dumbass
juiceey14 2 days ago
This is a 100% correct goal!
rtownz251251 4 days ago 2
what a goal! LOL
redheadni 4 days ago
only RVP can do this
JAKAPERDANA 5 days ago
Duuhhh it's 100% a goal. The bal was in the air:S
appie101009 5 days ago
It's like when the goalie bounces he ball he still has it in his possession so why not throwing it up to kick it
sd619brian 6 days ago
Im a yid and proud!
As much as i hate The Woolwich boys, that was a goal, no doubt !
hundui 6 days ago
Goal should've scored. The ball was in the air.
Darmorish 6 days ago
I laughed...
shirleyian10 1 week ago
i love v persie but that was no goal :)
runescapeFAification 1 week ago
172% goal according to scientists.
JamieLandan 1 week ago 14
like a boss
aditisawesome1 1 week ago
Goalie is an idiot, but it was no goal cos he stopped the ball in the penalty area
JAM1LD3R 1 week ago
The goalies fault if he decides to kick it right infront of him..
DjGa3tano 1 week ago
was been given then?
sab10ful 1 week ago
come on ref that was a goal i dont care
imzy32 1 week ago
This doesn't count, but Nani's goal did for Manchester Utd :L
collster01 1 week ago
@collster01 Nani is a cheating scumbag
Fishman0316 1 week ago
van:why because i could do this on fifa ref:i have never played ifa
markgazeley15 2 weeks ago
Look at the empty seats........
WeDoWhatWeWant20 2 weeks ago
Fuk me goal
EthanQuinn1811 2 weeks ago
its a goal
Jungelpojke 2 weeks ago
absolutely goal
Verserkerd1 2 weeks ago
GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT DO YOU THINK
MrKmaster2000 2 weeks ago
is this legal? and i mean someone who is informed about official FIFA rules and not some dumb redneck who thinks he knows about football.
i tried this once, i headed the ball away from the keeper while he was bouncing it but the referee called a foul. it was on a lower league though, and i always wondered what the actual rule says.
chrism216 2 weeks ago
@chrism216 No. Not a goal, since the goal kick that the ref called for had not gone through yet. Would've been a goal if RVP waited until after Hart's foot had touched it.
missonihill 2 weeks ago
@chrism216 if hart had connected with his foot to the ball and then persie had taken it it would have been acceptable. Under these circumstances, it's basically the same as Hart having the ball in two hands, it was an illegal interference of play.
KaiGamer 1 week ago
goal
mohsin213jc 2 weeks ago
shud be a goal
mufcbrazier 2 weeks ago
obviously it's a goal
rhienecat 2 weeks ago
I love this commentator. His voice is so epic!
AleksMaric1 2 weeks ago 17
@AleksMaric1 john motson
cvhashim 2 weeks ago
fuck this referee
Ahwanul12 2 weeks ago
fucking referee
hersmuffet 2 weeks ago
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@2011FCLiverpool u r wrong dude , the goalkeeper can keep distance if he want , he did a mistake , thats goal but FUCK Ref !
HaLLoweeNUnRaTeD1 2 weeks ago
nice shot by RVP, hes gonna get a 92 finish in the next fifa for suree
rwac07 3 weeks ago
I do think it should have been a goal but it wasn't so no goal
Wezzaz16 3 weeks ago
you have to keep distance away from the goalkeeper...
2011FCLiverpool 3 weeks ago
@2011FCLiverpool Yeah he did but when RvP touched the ball the ball was in play, that why it should have been allowed.
alexchelseafan 3 weeks ago
goal definatly the ball was in the air not in the keepers hands
labelle145 3 weeks ago
@Pr0digYz1 When the ball was in the air
EDKxToPiCzZ 3 weeks ago
It's not a goal because he had control of the ball, at what point did he not have control of the ball?
Pr0digYz1 3 weeks ago
@Pr0digYz1 When the ball was not at/in his feet/hands dick head
SharinganLuigi 3 weeks ago
Goal
iornmase 3 weeks ago
It's a mother forking goal
YK9Helper 3 weeks ago
goal
4cwsm18 3 weeks ago
That guy is pissing all over the prem this season, easily one of the worlds best player, absolutely quality !
COREYAD0909 3 weeks ago
It's a goal
zhafir99 3 weeks ago
it's a goal
Sajid10persie 3 weeks ago
It's a goal. The keeper wasn't in control.
kooora18 3 weeks ago
so he was gonna give 'ungentlemanly conduct' against van Persie....at the same time when van Persie was the only arsenal player there but Kompany, Dunne and Richards were following the referee too? is that gentlemanly conduct or is it trying to influence the referee into giving a booking?
Georgeous129 3 weeks ago
The goalkeeper needs to have it in 2 hands to be in 'control' ...goal.
FuiKaka 3 weeks ago
No goal, read the rules before argueing.
Sayper1 3 weeks ago
@Sayper1 Ok then, where are your arguments?
degekkejoop 3 weeks ago
@degekkejoop when the goalkeeper has the ball in his hands and kicks it, he still has control of the ball, it doesn't matter that the ball was in the air. "controlling the ball involves(...) tossing it up in the air" It's strange, but that's the way it is.
Sayper1 3 weeks ago
The ref is a twat
MrDarkTides 3 weeks ago
its a goal
FJFlah71 4 weeks ago
It's not a dead ball after the keeper releases the ball out of his gloves, so yes, it's supposed to be a goal :P
Joe Hart should be more careful though.
Ryanlauph 4 weeks ago
Goal,,
TheSocder 1 month ago
Realistically this should have counted. Keeper has no hands on the ball which makes it a loose ball
FOOTYMTW 1 month ago
Manchester Shitty being competitive due to their slimy circumstances is unsportsmanlike behaviour, but no officials do anything about that......
FamousMovieScenes09 1 month ago
@FamousMovieScenes09
What, so sending Kompany off for no reason is right then??
Unsporting behaviour is every time Rooney doesn't like a challenge during a game of football he sprints over to the ref and squares upto him until they give him the decision he wants. This happens almost every game.
So fuck off you bias twat.
GalaxyCatchupTV 4 weeks ago
@GalaxyCatchupTV Why are you talking to me about Rooney for like i give a shit?
Suck out, you cunt
FamousMovieScenes09 4 weeks ago
@FamousMovieScenes09 grow up u little faggot. did ur mother drop u as a child?.. stop making negative comments on youtube then if u don't want any come-backs.
GalaxyCatchupTV 4 weeks ago
i wonder if it had been a foul of it if he had miss
magicjogabonito 1 month ago
Goal should stand, not in two hands
Busher50 1 month ago
@Busher50 The myth about being able to take the ball if it is is one hand not two is untrue, hence why it is a myth. The FA said it was a "myth spread on the streets".
JackTheStriker 1 month ago
iltasanomat like
jopukka98 1 month ago
I think it should be allowed, but its just pretty unsportsman like
CASmithTV 1 month ago
for everyone saying "how come that wasn't allowed" the rules state that a goalkeeper taking a drop kick is one motion, therefore taking the ball between it leaving his hand and hitting his foot is considered a foul (and it is potentially dangerous)
KhuntMaster 1 month ago
goal
joshua1999178 1 month ago
stop it at 0:30 clearly left his hands!
TheRowdyOwl 1 month ago
I love van Persie and Arsenal to death, but the referee has clearly made the correct decision here
eljeffegooner18 1 month ago
@eljeffegooner18 that's clearly fair, as the ball has left the goalie's hands, it's just like the keeper throwing the ball to him, no difference whatsoever
TheRowdyOwl 1 month ago
Well it is arsenal and ref's hate us, it had left the goalkeepers possession therefore the goal should stand
I94IWilshere 1 month ago
sure. when ronaldinho does it he gets goal of the year and player of the year
GoonerGomaa 1 month ago
Thiery Henry did the same thing a few years back
lRAF99 1 month ago 47
@lRAF99 they changed the rules..
wqulejwl 2 weeks ago
Only RVP would have hit it on the half volley.. hahaha.
oMeGaSoLjaX 1 month ago
Should have been a goal (from a city fan)
TwistNipple3OOO 1 month ago 3
The Ref Has Obviously Never Played Fifa...
MarkitosGerardo303 1 month ago 71
@MarkitosGerardo303 Haha beast comment =P
MrDeadGaming 2 weeks ago
Thierry Henry, Solskjaer and Van persie, none of those goals have been given...
adda54 1 month ago
It clearly states in the rules goalkeeper most have both hands on ball to be in controll of the ball . Hart didnt have any hands on the ball . If an outfield player did it it would be ok so why not the goalkeeper
MrJpman001 1 month ago
does it mata??? did the goal stand??? NO so beta luck nxt time rvp
daz14s 1 month ago
FIFA Laws of the Game Page 115 states:
Offences committed against goalkeepers
A player must be penalised for playing in a dangerous manner if he kicks or
attempts to kick the ball when the goalkeeper is in the process of releasing
it.
Google FIFA Laws of the Game
EOD?
skumstar 1 month ago
@skumstar That wasn't dangerous, keeper tossed the ball, RVP got it away without getting near the keeper. Keeper has to have two hands on the ball to be "in possession"
EOD?
DutchMasterStatus 1 month ago
LOL wtf .... that was actually a pretty dam GOOD GOAL!!!
soccerHEROking 1 month ago
To all you serious people out there, that's a goal. Out of all the times this has happened 85 percent of the the time its classed as a goal. As soon as the ball is out of the keepers hands its anyone's ball. Some of you are basically saying that if the keeper had the ball near him its in his control. Haha.
FameAU 1 month ago
@FameAU That is not true, because if the goalkeeper is in the path of putting the ball in play, you can not intefere with him.
skumstar 1 month ago
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adriann28 1 month ago
@skumstar EXACTLY MAN, YOU REALLY KNOW THE RULE
adriann28 1 month ago
The rules are so clear on this and its been explained so many times, its illegal if the ball is deemed in the keepers control. The action of releasing the ball to kick it out of your hands is considered 'in control' and therefore plucking it out of the air mid-kick like that is not allowed and the player doing so gets a booking. I dont know why this happens every 2-3 seasons and suddenly the debate starts up again? its not allowed, end of.
BrotherNorris4111 1 month ago 2
I play goalie and i know the rules, that's a blatant goal.
Must have two hands on it otherwise its free play for anyone trying to get it.
Tossed it up and punted, so yea he LOST CONTROL of it...
MonstaInTheDark 1 month ago
Call it 'ungentlemanly conduct' if you like, but don't claim that the keeper's "in control of the ball." No he's bloody not - van Persie took it off him! If I hired someone to be in control of my phone, and someone nicked it off them, I'd refuse to pay him!
mf103 1 month ago
hart still has the ball under control although he already released it. it would be the death to football to allow goals like this.
markus1312 1 month ago
@markus1312 What about the Nani vs Tottenham? Goals like that are the suposed "death of football" yet it's acceptable when it's Man Utd.
Also - read the rulebook? "A player can only take the ball from the Goal Keeper when the keeper has only one hand on the ball or is in the process of kicking it." So, what was that?
MrCampInABox 1 month ago
@MrCampInABox
it was a goal by man united at old trafford. of course the rules are different in that case.
still, that's not a goal. according to the rules, the keeper is in control of the ball, so it's not allowed to take the ball off him.
markus1312 1 month ago
@markus1312 The rules state "A player can only take the ball from the Goal Keeper when the keeper has only one hand on the ball or is in the process of kicking it." Does he have 1 hand on it, or is he in the process of kicking it?
He had one hand on it, drops it and is in the process of kicking it, that covers BOTH "ifs" so it IS a goal. End of.
MrCampInABox 1 month ago
But imagine if this is a goal. Every player will then stand in front of goalkeeper and waiting till he throw the ball in the air
JevoTheGunners 1 month ago
@JevoTheGunners Players already do that.
MrCampInABox 1 month ago
@JevoTheGunners For your information, they do.
FameAU 1 month ago
The ball had been released from the keepers hands making the ball fair game to anyone on the pitch. the goal should of stood but at the end of the day the ref's word is final.
Owend90 1 month ago
it is a goal because the keeper has to have to 2 hands on the ball for it to be in his control so it should have been counted and also no man city player complained because they all thought it was a goal
falloverinasack 1 month ago
Even as a Gooner, I gotta admit that's not a goal. If he'd blocked it after Hart kicked it it would be fine but because Hart hadn't kicked it, he was technically still in control of the ball, and van Persie cant do that while he is.
fluffymole0913 1 month ago
@fluffymole0913 If you check the rulebook, the keeper must have the ball in two hands for it to be classed as "under his control". It's not even as if Hart had it in two hands before dropping it to kick it, he had it in one hand. Van Persie would've been within his rights to flick it off Harts hand (providing he didn't touch Hart).
It should've been a goal. Not that it matters, but it should've.
MrCampInABox 1 month ago
@MrCampInABox
no it should not have been a goal. read the rulebook again. thank you.
markus1312 1 month ago
Clearly a goal another useless ref
StephenAlexWalker 1 month ago
thats a goal
testme2770 1 month ago
No goal
calvinmcilroy386 1 month ago
Henry n RVP both scored this way n both goals got canceled .
777mhd777 1 month ago
I assume that Hart tried to take the kick because he knew that Van Persie was not legally allowed to block it. Read your rule books, kids.
hurricanes17 1 month ago
he sees vp doesn't he? keepers usually wait for the players to go because they know it would be a goal if he dropped it or let go and it was taken
farucdagoona 1 month ago
That's clear goal, shame it wasn't counted
justrelaxin 1 month ago
What is Hart then doing dropping the ball near Van Persie?
blacklittletom 1 month ago
Idiota z tego sędziego. Oczywiście, że to był gol, a kretyn nie uznał takiej pięknej bramki.
torrevill 1 month ago
Ball left the keepers hands van the man takes it and scores whats wrong ???? lol
Dave16101991 1 month ago 50
@Dave16101991 just to make clear the rules says that until it touches the ground (if he rolls it out or drops it, not if he kicks it) then its still in the keeper 'possession' stupid i know
FifaLordEd 1 month ago
@Dave16101991 the keeper throw the ball to kick it which means he is still in control of the ball, so the ref done the right thing
and dont hate me for the that but so it's written in the rules
x3CruZerx3 1 month ago
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majox88 4 days ago
@Dave16101991 It is still classed as in the possesion on the goalkeeper until he kicks it or it touches the ground.
lfchoganlfc 1 month ago
@lfchoganlfc ive seen the keeper try to throw the ball to his teammate to counter attack and the throw got cut off in the air and it wasnt a foul. why the hell should this be a foul?
visitnajr 4 weeks ago
@Dave16101991 Yeah but if they were the rules that it was allowed then keepers wouldn't be able to ever kick the ball and players would be constantly harassing the goalies when the ball is leaving their possession. There would be about 50 indirect free-kicks given inside the box per game for simply keeping hold of the ball for longer than 6 seconds.
So in conclusion to your question you have asked me, the answer is no it should not be allowed, period.
GalaxyCatchupTV 4 weeks ago
that's a stupid goalkeeper, doesnt matter if it was a goal or not
kypasthug 1 month ago
This is against the spirit of the law.
Anybody saying it's fair game is probably biased.
dra900nka1n 1 month ago
Rules say its a goal, so its a goal. Where's the argument?
TheMrSlap 1 month ago
it is a goal, damn ref!! the keeper dont have the ball on his hands..
Ddrumzzz12 1 month ago
stupid referee!! it should be counted as a true goal as van persie got use of it while it is free in the air
ya7yam 1 month ago
Ref has a thing against ninjas
DocSolomon 1 month ago 64
hahahaha learned from Henry for sure ! :D
willster191 2 months ago
Henry LOL Mini
GabeIsAwEsOmE1234567 2 months ago
No it isnt because it´s not allowed to attack the keeper if he want to pass the ball
Niume187 2 months ago
@Niume187 How did he "attack" the keeper? There was no challenge. Joe Hart threw it up and it's fair game.
MoriKAshi 2 months ago
@Niume187
This is a counting goal.
The keeper throws it up. So the ball is back in the game.
Jefroversdenurste 2 months ago
When was this game? Ofcourse this is a goal.
degekkejoop 2 months ago
Pure Goal!
RutgherMusic 2 months ago
that's a clear goal
Filzoable 2 months ago
but when ronaldinho did it it was a goal right??
jojocool201177 3 months ago
@jojocool201177 yeah well thats a goal..
nasermeter 2 months ago