we can find thousand of good reason for let the woman preach, nothing against to that from my side, but in order to do that God will have to be put aside, it is up to the woman to decided, remember the bible said do not trust your heart, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
Jeremiah 17:9, we can jump, run, fly, if you want but at the end of the day obedience is what God expect from us. God bless you
To the person who told me to shut up:I do not apologize for the Truth of the Word. I heard the voice of the Lord saying to me "I want you to preach the Gospel". If you DARE to call that voice "the devil" you will be guilty of blasphemy of the Spirit. The more you tell me to "shut up" the more I will holler forth the Word of Life and save souls. And you will be cast down to Hell for your opposition to God's Word and Spirit
There isn't one. And if y'all gonna quote the scripture women learn in silence you would have to quote that thoughout scriptures that's tha only scripture yall can find to pull down the women therefore you all are missing out because of stubruness. Apostle Paul said them words because at tha time women didn't know how to act in church that's why learn ya word the rite way
I will say this wether you agree or not I think women can preach see let me give you a story that everybody may know in the four gospels of the bible ( matt, mark, Luke,&john) all these men trying to quote the scriptures about how women can't preach. Now look at it this way the farisies and the scribes missed out on Jesus Christ because they knew the word but they missed because they was so cought up in tradition. Not only that if god called a woman to preach see have to do just like you had to
I would not sit in a church under a woman or anyone who does not adhere and preach the rightly divided word of God. That is what I advocate (the Bible and sound doctrine). This is not a civil rights issue. It is a matter of God's ordinances. The moment it become a treatise in fairness, it has left the realm of Godliness.
job. The same is true in the church. The Biblical teaching of womanly submission is vastly different than the monstrous image that feminists paint of authoritative husbands and pastors. Women who enter the pulpit disobeying God, openly and shamelessly, which puts them in the same boat as demonic witches. Why did Satan choose Eve? The Bible does not reveal Satan's motive for beginning with Eve. But the fact the Eve was deceived does have something to do with women's prohibition from teaching men
rebellious women church leaders, have twisted the Scriptures in an attempt to justify their rebellion (this is called apostasy). God calls men to preach/teach, not women. Women preachers are repulsive. It's just not right, ethically or biblical. Whenever you find a church with a woman in the pulpit, you'll find a liberal-minded church that is infested with doctrinal heresies.There is nothing inferior or demeaning about a wife obeying her husband, anymore than an employee obeying his or her boss
of authority, and cries "inequality" if they don't get it. In Isa. 14:14, Lucifer wanted to be like"The Most High". Feminism and the Word of God are diametrically opposed to each other! Feminism is a Trojan Horse sin, that brings with it a slew of godlessness and woeful evils. Eve was deceived not Adam. It was Solomon's wives who turned his heart away from the Lord and introduced child-sacrifice (today's equivalent of abortion) to the pagan god Molech [1 Kings 11:4-8]. Rebellious women church
family etc. I remind you that women are not solely responsible for this, but the spirit of Jezebel is so, so strong and the majority of men in the church, have the Ahab spirit, therefore, this is why the demonic spell of Jezebel runs many households, marriages, and is prevalent in the contemporary, Laodecian church. Women have equal rights, are of equal worth, and ARE NOT inferior to men in any way; BUT, woman DO NOT have a right to usurp authority over men. Feminism DEMANDS equalityin the area
Feminism is of the devil. As with the lesbianism/homosexual movement, the feminist movement has changed the Word of God into a lie, "Who changed the truth of God into a lie... [Rom. 1:25]. Women preachers/teachers are false prophets. Women are SCRIPTURALLY forbidden to be pastors, preachers, or leaders over men in ANY capacity[ cf.Gen. 3:16; 2 Tim. 2:12]. The average woman today is a feminist in her philosophies. This is tragic and a curse upon America. Abortions, divorce, the breakup of the
The Sin of Women Preachers- 1 Tim.2:11-12 admonishes,"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer [allow] NOT a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. Also to cross reference the N.T. with the O.T. , Gen. 3:16,"To the woman GOD said: 'I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; In pain you shall bring forth children; Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you"'. THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS not my words.
God Called Men (Man) to be in leadership roles in the Church! Women who called themselves Preachers are under the chancery of the Devil! Watch my video on the subject righty divided! Still no have broke down this subject yet! if so write me any time share your thoughts! Be Bless! And remember Acts 2:42
i totally agree. i just stated that women who preach do not use the bible as a defence but rather "i was called". what a joke. how can you prove that "cause i FEEL" i feel alot of things but that is no proof. gods word has stood the test now use it. if it is right then women who preach or lead men during services are in danger of not making it to heaven...is it really worth it????
wow!!!! i do not hear any intellectual debate or apology all i hear is these women's opinion. but the bible in many places says this aught not to be. the end of this arguement is so simply and clear. paul and apostle who had the keys to the kingdom, authority unquestioned, who wrote most of the NEW TESTAMENT said women is not to use authority over the man in the church...period. he does not apologize for it. now if you do not care what the bible says, then fine, but dont call yourself a christi
@jon083166 Why do people have bibles but walk contrary to what is written? I'm here for edification purposes only, not to give my opinion. When the smelly stuff hits the fan, I hate to be the one that says, "The word told you so!"
REVELATION 2:18-20 . when god spoke about thyatira it was in the OT. "And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: Luke 17:26. 2 kings 9:22 , 1 corinth 11:3, eph 5:23, eph 5:24,1 tim 2:12, 1 corinth 14:36. when people look at rev 2:18-20 they get witchcraft as something else in their mind but it is rebellion! woman do not scriptureally teach 1 sam 15:23 and if your part of it, bad things will come rev 2:22-23. I was called to get rid of thyatira
Women who preach are not obeying the word of God. Men are the head of women. Christ is the head of Man. Both men and women have different responsibilities as it relates to God's Holy business. In the US, women think that they are equal to men. YOU'RE NOT!!!! How can a woman preach when she's unclean at least once a month during her purification? She shouldn't be around anyone during that time especially Holy things. Don't get mad at me, get mad at the bible! The Gospel says NO!
@eproshunt WOOOOW. You STILL in the law? Jesus came to give us GRACE. Read the book of ACTS where the apostles discuss only a VERY select few laws that converts have to go through, and this is not one of them! Please explain Judges 3 and 4 to me, if you can.
@Glory2theLamb11 Deborah was a judge, not a PRIEST! A Judge handles disputes, see Exodus 18:13-16. A judge executes commandments as well. Women Prophetess and Judges were never ordained to make intercessions for sins or serve as Priests. Grace is a pardoning of our sins for transgressing the law. Yes, the Messiah died for our sins but Matthew 5:17 explains it clearly. Don't be so simple. Many are quick to obey man's laws but neglect the laws of the Creator of the Heavens and Earth. A shame!
@eproshunt Whats a shame is you don't know the Greek word for "head" actually means "origin" because woman came out of man. Whats a shame is you don't understand the verse "there is no MALE OR FEMALE in the body of Christ". What a shame is you don't understand that Jesus DID NOT say "Only men will do the things that I have done, and even greater." Only scratch out "only men" because He said "ANYONE who believes WILL do the things I have done, and even greater" Guess what Jesus did? PREACH!!
@Glory2theLamb11 There's no such thing as a female or male spirit. We study the word to show ourselves approved with hopes of worshiping in spirit and truth. The Messiah isn't Greek. He's from the Tribe of Judah. He spoke Hebrew and walked perfectly in his Father's laws. Matthew 5:17 clearly explains his intentions. The Messiah spoke directly to his apostle, Paul, with specific instructions. I will not debate what is clearly written. The Most High will have mercy on whomever HE chooses.
Everyone will have their opinions about this - the Old Testament has lots of 'rules' that were followed BEFORE Christ was crucified, so I think you can't take every rule in the OT to heart..., I think individuals must pray and seek God before they jump to conclusions about the way some things are interpreted.
I believe women have callings on their lives to preach and teach - God will use WHOEVER ALLOWS HIM USE THEM -
@eproshunt The same Holy Spirit and Jesus lives inside BOTH men and women, where in the Bible does it say that is not true? God is NOT a respecter of persons, that IS in the Bible! You are afraid of women having equality and you're letting satan use you to oppress women, just like the Muslims and other religions around the world. Jesus gives us FREEDOM, not OPPRESSION!
@Glory2theLamb11 What are you saying, it is the word and its not ambiguous. We are not afraid, we go by the word and not by our feelings, trying to twist scripture to what WE want to do, our status whatever etc...
@SuperGolfing1 I did not say it is ambiguous. I am simply going by what the Lamb of God said. "I tell you the truth, anyone who believes in me will do the same works I have done, and even greater works, because I am going to be with the Father." John 14:12 What part of that don't you understand? Jesus preached! Remember Sermon on the Mount??? He also healed the sick and fed the hungry. But you should SERIOUSLY look into the HISTORY to some of the verses you think constrict all women.
@Glory2theLamb11 Not saying you shouldnt preach. You shouldnt be ordained or preach in a church, especially to Men. Sorry for the confusion by all means spread that Gospel I agree with you there, its just in the capacity and where and who you are dong it. I hope I didnt offend you and if so sorry, Im just pretty orthodox with scripture or try to be.
@SuperGolfing1 "Men" shouldn't be capitalized, btw. Only "Man" when you're talking about Jesus. Peter was not ordained to preach but when he was baptized by the HOLY SPIRIT & FIRE, Peter suddenly preached. Brother the ONLY qualification a person needs to preach the gospel to men & women is the HOLY SPIRIT.The Holy Spirit WILL use whoever He wants. All things are possible with God if He can talk thru a donkey to a man He can use a woman. You need to be humble enough to receive from a woman.
@Glory2theLamb11 Im very humble, I think its the other way around. I recieve a womans knowledge anytime as long as its lines up with the Bible, not authoritive, out of church. Brother its the word of God, take it up with him, Im orthodox, nothing against women. People like Joyce Myers, Paula White etc.... are being hypocrites. To follow the word they are preaching would change their life. Kinda like the fat person thinking there ok because they dont want to and never look in the mirror.
@SuperGolfing1 Any Christian, man or woman has sat under a male preacher. But it takes REAL humility to sit under a female preacher. Your belief that women aren't equal and don't have what it takes to preach does not line up with the character of Christ. Yes, their are scriptures that contradict the character of Christ. Our job as Christians is to research WHY they seemingly contradict, & uncover the truth, which you'll find these verses are talking TO certain churches of THEIR time, not ours.
@Glory2theLamb11 Ok, first before I respond can you delineate the churches and times scriptures? Again you are taking this out of the subject. I didnt say women werent equal with men did I. Im just saying what God said their status in church to be. Take it up with him, are you saying he is not humble? Also give me the scriptures that contradict the charater of Christ. God is not the author of confusion is he wouldnt you agree. Hitting me back in that info and I will respond further. TY
@Glory2theLamb11 Yeah very familiar with Stone, wish he did more research on the gift of tongues, hes very exegesis there. Anway I dont care if you spend 2 million hrs studying anything if your results of the study dont line up with the word but rather personal feelings or sensitive seeking results. Where am I not following the scripture of Christ, please show me? Oh and yes, I research everything I hear to make sure it lines up, plus Im in Bible college. Could you expound on the lineage? TY
My friend! Peter was ordained to Preach! Read ..Mark 3:14 And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach. The whole duty of an Aposlte, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor, Teacher, Bishop, Elder is to Preach. Again I keep teaching on this subject. Listen to my brother in the video. Everyone is a Soilder (Soul Winner spreading the Good News) But Everyone is not a Commanding Solider (Called, ordained, appointed to Preach)
@bornest1 No, Peter was a FISHERMAN. Remember that? He did not have formal training by man. The Holy Spirit came upon him and made him a preacher. The other twelve were ordained because they were also filled with the Holy Spirit. Remember the 120 in the upper room, some of which were women? Those were the ones "ordained". They were ordained by the Holy Spirit. A person DOES NOT need a man to say "You're qualified." The Holy Spirit qualifies when He baptizes a person.
Did you read Mark 3:14. I given you the Bible you gave me your opinion! I never seen the time where every has there own interpretation on scripture. The Holy Ghost does call the (MAN) to preach. But every person with the Holy Spirit is not Called to 5fold Ministry. Everyone with the Holy Ghost is called to Witness or share or preach (Not Eccelesiastical). Again read the bible and give me scripture A Bishop has the authority to ORDAINED ELDERS (Ecclesiastical Preachers)
Scripture:Titus 1:5For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain(some versions say Appoint) elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
I teach my church to never read the scriptures to be Subjective on your own Thinking or opinions but to allow the scriptures to teach from its on objective (the Holy Word of God).The problem with todays Church is we live now in the LAODICEA Period of the Church. Where Everyone is Right !!!
Laodicea- Means the Judging of the Rights or rights of the People. This is the last period of the Church before the Catching Away(Rapture) and every has there opinions on the Bible. People that are not Call or ordained by God to interpret His Word have alot to say! Laodicea.... Laodicea I say!!! The judging of the People and their Rights! Rom3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar. Is Man Right or Is GOD WRONG! People read your Bible and Please learn from a God Sent Man!!!
It doesnt matter who is spreading the gospel as long as they are true to Our Lord God....Stop bein concered with tradition and be more concered about your relationship with your Lord and savior if you dont think women should preach go to a church with a male preacher live a good life and ask Jesus about when you go see him. just sayin....
The lady @4:08 mentioned men and women fighting in the Iraqi War. She believes it should be a message to the church that women are capable to preach. She mistakenly perceived that church and state should work together. The gov't runs the Iraqi War and also are the ones who recently approved gay marriage, which is an abomination to biblical lifestyle. Is she actually considering examples of the gov't, that right laws against biblical principles, a good reference for people to follow? Error!
Here is a question for you men* why do men who have had a covenant with God since the time of Adam fall short in this day and age. Men are suppose to love their wives as as Christ has loved the church...why are most men not taking the priestly roll in their home and making godly decision that would benefit their families. Love one another!
@lilladyaustin Jesus is the ONLY priest any person needs. The Bible does not say that a man is the priest of his home. No where does it say that in scripture. I know that is a widely believed doctrine people LOVE to believe, but it is not biblical. I've searched the scriptures but have not found it anywhere. Read Hebrews chapters 3-8, I believe.
I would never get this Dvd actually a woman created this mess because why is there only 1 male against all these female so called pastors ...but its ok cause pharo.. had 2 snakes and moses had one and stil got his point across ...I kno a lot of women and Men that is against it....These so call lpastor females gonna go straight to hell!! along with the gays for being disobedient to Gods word!!!
@kimcrediblelove .. U need 2 read ur BIBLE & read it wholeheartedly because u really need 2 listen 2 what God is saying. Yes!!!! Women are called 2 preach HIS WORD. My questions 2 u... who was the 1st woman 2 carry the word of GOD? 2nd question... who was the 1st woman 2 carry the word from JESUS after HE rose from the dead? A word of advice concerning this read, pray & ask GOD 2 reveal the truths u seek.>ANSWERS 2 QUESTIONS.. 1. Mary...see Luke 1: 26-35 2. Mary Magdalene..Matt 28:1-10
@GodsLady5470 The bible clearlt states that overseers in the church are to be men who are the husband of wife, etc (Timothy, Titus) when you find me a woman who is the husband of one wife then we can talk...What people need to do is - stop tyring to manipulate God's word to bolster there own opinions. It's Ok for you to be a strong woman, a strong Godly woman, carrying the Word, but it is also God ordained to submit to the authority of a man who must submit to the authority of Christ (Cor)
@kimcrediblelove And you would go because you capitalize "men" and lowercase "women" because you think having a penis makes you superior and thus should be capitalized like you're Jesus Himself. That is what it looks like you're saying. A man is a LITTLE 'm' same as in woman. Only Jesus can be Man with big "m".
we're severing the same God? i think we're reading a different bible. how else can you take the bible but litterly? you can make the bible say whatever you want it to.
@NardoFree2 seems like it to me, why all the confusion over everything. an all knowing god should know how to be clear in his explanations and we shouldn't need to question at all, but we do coz we have brains and can think for ourselves.
If a woman feels that god called her to preach, ok, but she can't convince me of it. Any one can stand up and state that they feel god called them to preach his word. But few understand where he put men and where he put women. And I believe that Jesus will handle all of this on his return.. "John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me." So all of you, get ready.
I think its just the strong demand for equal rights for women has now effected Christianity and the church. I have no problem with equality, and in no way a sexist, and will never be one. The truth is, however, that God wanted things a certain way. So would you be calling God sexist? Reason I say God is because Paul is simply the middle man. If you pull out the sexism card, it shows that you have no concrete facts to support your argument. Don't blame me for what God wants in his House.
It is a shame that people try to "modernize" scriptures so that they fit in with society. My question is: If it is ok for women to preach, then why is there no scripture that clearly says so? Also, why is there scripture that clearly says that they should not? (ie. 1Tim 3:1-7) Malachi 3:6 says the Lord does not change. So why would His Word change due to women overcoming sexism in the workforce?
I must ask you this question. Are you God? If not, then you must keep you comments to yourself. What you are saying is not scriptural, and God WILL hold you accountable for your actions. By the way, God uses WHOEVER HE wants, NO MAN. I believe you will have to seek God with prayer and fasting to hear from GOD NOT MAN. Blessings.
@specialinhiseyes What you are saying is not scripture! God never called a woman to preach! In the levitical priesthood, it was the sons of Aaron! Not his daughters! No woman is ordained to preach, it is simply not their assignment! Notice none of these women in this video USED ANY SCRIPTURE TO DEFEND THEIR POSITION! That says alot!
One ignorant woman says the bible was divinely given an inspired to 70 men! That shows you why women have no business in the pulpit!
@specialinhiseyesYes the Lord can use whoever he wants but< not as a Pastor...He just may use a women to give a divine word but not to take a permenant office as Pastor or Bishop......
It's funny none of these so-called anointed by God women to preach didnt use ONE SCRIPTURE to substantiate their point.
One ignorant woman preacher said the Bible was divinely given and inspired by 70 men! What 70 men is she talking about??? And what difference does it make?? These women dont even know scripture.
I cried watching this simply because sexism is still present today and i feel as though a female will always be expected to be in the kitchen and clean up..i will meditate on this and wait for god's answer because i feel like i have a calling..!
There were no female priests in the temple! The office of the priesthood is simply not the job of a woman. The bible is clear. All you need do is listen to the nonsense spewing from these women's mouths. The Body of christ is not a womens liberation movement. Women have a role and men have a role and women scriptually do not have a role being a bishop, elder, deacon or pastor. The true God of heaven and earth DID NOT CALL ANY WOMAN TO PREACH! THAT IS A SATANIC LIE!
@ToWorshipHimintruth You need to go back to the altar an ask God to remove the scales for your eyes. You really need God to minister to you, because it doesn't seem like you are hearing from God. Touch not the Lords anointed. It's in HIS word.
Of course women can preach, and pray and prophecy, with a sign of authority on her head, or if she has shaved her hair off, but of course she is not supposed to usurp authority over men, or be a pastor, or teach unless it is the younger women. Men and women who don't know the truth about masculinity and femininity, i.e. what makes men and women equal, will of course have boundary issues, and will not understand Paul's teaching.They will try to make up explanations for Paul's teaching.
And why is anyone following Pauls ideals, when Jesus set out simple ideals? Jesus defied rules and customs of the day.
Paul is a hypocrit then, because women were clearly leaders in the early church. Romans 16. Acts 18, 21. It is only men who have duped people for millenium who persist. I say, then they MUST follow every single thing in the bible too and they CANNOT! Customs or culture is NOT the spirit of the law that Jesus described.
@anotheronem Madam you are prevaricator. One could waste much time on a woman like yourself. The word says to get rid a contentious person and trouble will cease.
And why do you insult me? I am not even interpreting things my way.
Ancient men) who wrote ancient Jewish laws and rules or their understanding of their history and God in the bible. Enlightenment in the NT when Jesus came.
But always remember, Paul is NOT Jesus.
If men insist on interpreting or forcing people to obey some cultural or customary edicts in scripture or say that Jesus commands it, they are in error.
Jesus NEVER worried about many those things, only MEN did!
@anotheronem Your answer is No answer at all. When you know that you know,the Truth, you can presume to speak from a position of some authority,without violation of the souls of others.I suggest you go back to the drawing board because you are not well founded enough.I am prepared to lay my life down for the Truth that has been revealed to me on this subject.:-) It is that important. I must decline to engage you, because it is unconstitutional for a man to debate a woman, as with another man.
Tell that to male clergy, or university professors (male and female). Jesus did NEVER say to not communicate or to that it was unconstitutional for a man to debate with a woman as with another man.
You and men made that up.
In fact why do you use the word "unconstitutional"? where is that used in the bible? that is a government law term, not a biblical term.
And when you find that men birth babies and where JESUS denied women, come back and post.
You won't debate with women? because they will catch you up and not always agree with you. Actually, debate with both male and female shows courage and abilility, knowledge and willnessness to learn and be humble.
If you come up with something valid and that can be applied and makes sense in a Christ led way, then we can debate.
The TRUTH is JESUS, and what JESUS revealed. Not what Paul said, but what Jesus revealed and does to this day.
Most fundamentalists cannot keep up with me (not just typing), nor can they deny my points. For I can discuss what is in the bible. But all that cannot be followed to a T, because it is IMPOSSIBLE to obey every line of scripture without KILLING someone.
BUT--- To obey CHRIST is another matter altogether. Find where I disobey CHRIST then you may have a point. If not, I am for truth. CHRIST"S truth, not man made truth.
Women finally (last century or so) had opportunity to be educated (post secondary), become lawyers, doctors, scientists) etc. truck drivers, sawyers, miners. Househusbands exist too, but that is more rare.
Physical strength - some brain patterns, seems to be the only difference (although I know many women who are physically stronger than some men a couple of my sisters included).
Intelligence is equal - although womens intuitive intelligence seems higher many times.
An eloquent look at some qualities of women in your comment? But you forgot strong, intelligent, diligent, capable, knowledgeable. Women are far more than just sugar and spice nice.
Most women I know are strong and capable. Most men I know are strong too. I am married to one. But some are NOT. Some are weaker in all ways than I am.
Men and women can retain masculine or feminine, but they don't need to restrict their work or life efforts to do so.
@matriarchyh8r A fine example of a scripture which validates Paul. 2 Peter 3:13-18. (15)And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
1. One can be very feminine and still be strong, independent, intelligent and lead people.
2. Sometimes women can intuit better
3. Women have taken longer for credibility due to having only male models to follow. But being a male leader is NOT really what women are called to do.
4. Leading people should not take away from either being or modelling feminine or masculine values.
5. There should be a balanced presence on the pulpit, so that needs of both are met in the congregation. Hopefully this will prevent male testosterone out of balance issues. ie sex abuse.
4. A panel of 12 council members should oversee any church and the leaders for scrutiny and conduct. 6 men, 6 women.
Jesus never denied women, only Paul and others did.
Anyway, people do not seem to see the hypocricy, duality or dichotomy in statements that women can preach and prophecy, but they can't have authority over men.
Whereas, preaching and prophecy is authority over others.
Any man who listens and follows that preaching or prophecy has become under authority of a female vessel for God.
So, not even sure what people think when they state one and not the other apply.
@anotheronem I'm happy to discuss the Doctrine of man, and the doctrine of God, and the doctrine of the Church,etc, however, I have found that these little boxes are not a satisfactory medium.
I will give a few quips on each box, but will write to you by email.
Studied: history, bible, protestant/catholic/orthodox Church doctrine, etc.
Hard to cover 1000's of years of history of the bible on YT, HARMS in misinterpreting and applying edicts in the bible. Some good, but mostly harms in history.
Gen 1 and Gen 2 contradict each other big time in the order of creation. already been debated or written by the way by many more esteemed than you or I.
When men BIRTH babies, then we can debate for hundreds of pages (which I have done more than a few times). Until then Jesus words, ways , the Holy Spirit seem to be best. Make sure to INCLUDE Mary Magdalene and Mother Mary as role models too, or else lopsidedness in observing how God really wants things will occur.
@anotheronem I am not shy of asserting authority, and Paul tells us to take note of those who do not walk according to his teachings, and have nothing to do with them.
I have debated contentious women in the past, usually the wife of some poor brow beaten chap, and he is grateful of someone disciplining her.
Also of course we are to warn others. Apart from that your own husband is your head. It is not for me to correct you.But removal of grace and favour is a legitimate form of correction.
Again, just an excuse. You can't debate me, or you would. Good thing I only have to ultimately account to CHRIST.
My husband and I approach our marriage as equals. We are not perfect humans, but after 35 years of marriage and many good accomplishments (not from us - but our abiding by Christs power) then I would say it works.
Equality in a marriage is where marriages thrive and survive. But that does not mean equal work or efforts in some things, one learns the distinction.
@anotheronem He is welcome to you. I reject your assertions. I said I would be happy to discuss these topics if you could answer my question. But you have not the Truth. Only a baleful quantity of misapplied points, which serve your purpose of a spurious equality. And on that basis I would be foolish to respond to you. I have never encountered a woman who has been able refute what I know to be true. They usually get very nasty and the engagement can be very exhausting, so I refrain. ok. bye.
I am not out to convince you. You, however, obviously have issues regarding womens rights and equality. Good thing I have my husband, no way I want any man LORDING over me. Neither does my husband want anyone LORDING over him. God is sufficient.
It seems you wish to keep women bound to men, rather than do as Jesus wants.
I know what is in the bible and proved you in error. I also know the TRUTH and it is in NOT following MAN, but by following JESUS.
@anotheronem I repeat ,-Madam you are prevaricator. One could waste much time on a woman like yourself. The word says to get rid a contentious person and trouble will cease.
What does 1 Cor 11 say, for a start ? You are under the common mind set, and consequently you interpret any suggestion of authority, as Domination and control. There is no such automatic stigma attached to the word, "rule".It should be, to do justice and judgement in love and humility,- (as Christ loved the church, etc.
@matriarchyh8r I will not be responding again. As you say, you know what is in the Bible.So you are either wicked, or affected.I'm sure it is the later.I am sorry for your suffering but I am released from fighting with wild animals, except as I decide. I have clarified the situation. If your husband is happy with you as you are then that is for him. Your orientation draws from the spirit of anti-christ. Henceforth I am released from any account in your behalf, as I have made significant points.
You made no points, btw. And you did not begin to refute my comments. You bring up one scripture? Well, there is plenty more.
Where is your rebuttal, other than to personally declare you can lord over women and discipline them? unwarranted. Jesus did NOT deny women, Rm 16, Acts and more say women were church leaders and worked alongside men.
1 John 4. If you respond, I will respond. That is how it works. ;)
You never were accountable for anything on my behalf to begin with. The audacity and arrogance to believe so is very telling.
Only myself and JESUS are responsible for my soul. That is it. I can live and cooperate with my spouse and family, but everything goes to Jesus and NOT through men. If you think now you are above Jesus? hmm.
@matriarchyh8r said in PM to me: It is specifically for the sort of abuse that you foam, that I have no pleasure in discussion with a female person of your persuasion.
Once I have made an honest attempt in upholding the truth I am released from any responsibility in regard to that truth on your behalf.
It would not make any difference what truths I would be able to verify with you, because the depths of your bitterness over unresolved issues knows no bounds."
matriarchhaters words to me in PM. " Only if one died a horrible death, perhaps your bitterness would be satisfied.(Oh that's right Jesus already did that) You would make a good male muslim.
You should ask yourself and your husband, what you are looking for? Please do not reply to me again.I will block you from now. I do not bid you God speed lest I become a partaker of your evil deeds."
1. I am a married woman of 35 years, faithful to CHRIST. Volunteer and work for my family. I would NEVER wish anyone to die a horrible death. So what was that ALL about?
2. Calling me a liar, or bitter or evil? because I can discuss the bible? and it is NOT to YOUR personal liking or that you do NOT get to have authority over me?
You can block me all you want, you are a bit scary, so perhaps I should be blocking you.
I have not seen any man understand justice and judgement over a wife in humility and love, who also believes that he can "discipline" his wife. That is a dichotomy.
We all have our own minds, bodies and souls and go directly to Christ. We confer and support our spouses as do they with us. It is an equal worth marriage. 1 Cor 11. Is that a command from JESUS? or Paul's cultural thoughts? Do you follow every single LINE of scripture? or can one discern what is applied today? and from CHRIST!
Oh and what is with the matriarchyhater channel name? Have you been burned by a woman (or women?) and now can only think to diss women and be against them, rather than perhaps look at yourself or how men may be stepping out of bounds with women and their worth and rights.
Good thing this is the 21st century or you would be calling the clergy and townsmen to come "discipline" me.
Thank God we can study, work and know things for ourselves now.
Um, contentious? by whose standards? yours and some other select men only.
I am not contentious by Jesus standards btw.
I am quite capable of debate. Go back and refute my points and pretend I am not a man. I could have lied and said I was a man, what difference does it make? NONE.
I can refute and trump your points and that is why you back out with lame excuses.
My husband would NEVER "discipline" me in the context you seem to suggest. What gives YOU or any man the right to discipline a wife? like a dog or child? That is outrageous.
My husband and I know how to communicate about important things and we do NOT undertake big things without consulting each other.
I am better at many things than my husband as He is better at many things. We have strengths and we collaborate to make the best of both our attributes.
Do men have any status that women don't also have,? while the woman is herself the glory OF the man, was taken out of man, and created FOR the man, and no man comes into the world but by woman, and her adamic sin penalties were, I quote GOD, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception;in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children;and thy desire shall be to thy husband,and he shall rule over thee". Then consider 1 Tim 2: 11-15. Let the women learn in silence with ALL SUBJECTION. .......
There are some women out there in Youtube land, that understand what makes man equal to woman, in spite of being so easily swayed, against his own better judgement, by deceived yet glorious woman. Of course Adam was not born of woman, like we are, but we have no excuse, having the benefit of hindsight and the constant reminder of death and suffering in our bodies and the world around us, of the folly of being led by woman,an helpmeet, who being deceived was in the transgression
Well all i got is that in a home were the man is running from his calling in the household or at church then its ok for the woman to pick up the slack .... but people don't force your beliefs on others and cause them to stumble so with that being said we need to stop fighting each other and fight the devil.. "relient k - Down in flames" it deals with it .... but anyways what if instead of looking at whats different in our views how bout just agreeing that jesus is the way the only truth =D
Yes women can preach this gospel... His word doesn't say they cant be a pastor, teacher, minister, evangelist.(etc) he only gives divine order concerning positions that only can be held by man. which would be a bishop or apostle.... all of you be blessed and search the scripture for understanding. much love
Just because I can see HOLES in Pauls writings does not mean I am homosexual or agree with homosexual marriage.
That is such a huge leap assuming anything about a belief because I examine what 1 Tim says? WOW! Church leaders, both men and women were addressed and highly commended by Paul in Rm 16. Junia as an apostle btw. And perhaps, just perhaps that address was to men, and the women were out doing something else that day. YOU and others cannot prove it.
1 Tim could very well have been regarding the common practice of having MORE than one wife. Why does Paul (or whoever authors 1 Tim) emphasize ONE WIFE.
More than one wife was NOT acceptable. Jesus also put away the concept of plural wives, but it was still practiced.
This passage seems to refer to confining elders to ONE wife and and not with restricting women from preaching. They could NOT say women have one husband because WOMEN were NOT allowed to have more than one husband.
@anotheronem again your quoting scripture that is not there. joseph ate with sinners in potterphers house lol is it written saved people cant eat with sinners? lolololo forgiving sin where in the bible did it forbid jesus to forgive sin? is it a sin in the old testament to talk to samaritans? you cant show me one verse that jesus sin with scripture from the old testament scripture and verse. you justify yourself not following the laws by saying jesus did not
@REAL88E Acts 10:28 " And he said to them, “You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean"
The law stated that Jews were NOT to associate with Samaritans or other nations. Jesus knew this. In addition, men were not to talk with women privately without witnesses, especially a Samaritan woman.
@anotheronem gleaning food ie working lololololol puting my clothes on brushing my teeth i.e. working lololololololol jesus did not go thru the fields picking the disciples did lololo0lolololololololololololololololololololololol
Ah, but JESUS condoned this action. So Jesus is complicit by walking through the fields with them and watching them disobey the Sabbath law about gleaning food.
So, semantics are at play.
Jesus healed on the Sabbath too, which was against the law.
So go through the other examples I provided. Your laughter is hollow. Jesus purposely defied the law of Moses to get the goat and reveal the hypocricy of the Pharisees. Perhaps you laugh? but why?
@anotheronem i contend the 12 disciples did not break that law your saying iether are you saved are just playing around with uninformed christians? if your saved then y are you saying jesus wasnt blameless according to the written tora if i break a wrong interpretation of the law im not breaking the real law of moses but the pharisees view of the law which was used for power and control. jesus was without bleemish according to the first five books of the bible and the prophets
Tja passage clearly states they disciples are breaking the law.
Jesus healed on the Sabbath, which was breaking the law.
So, some of Moses laws handed from God, were to NOT work on the Sabbath. The Pharisees are taking that law literally. So, I believe you might have brush up on facts.
Jesus was a "law breaker" and a "social law breaker" and corrected the Pharises.
I never said that Jesus had a blemish. I said he BROKE the laws of MEN. Huge distinction.
@anotheronem jesus did not break moses law one bit he broke the law of the pharisees who hijacked it to control people you cant show me no scripture whatsoever because there is none you have the traditions that were passed down to you and unfortunately you bought in to the lie that jesus went against the written tora
" You have six days each week for your ordinary work, but the seventh day must be a Sabbath day of complete rest, a holy day dedicated to the LORD. Anyone who WORKS on that day must be put to death."
There are over 600 laws apparently passed down by Moses - because we are CHRISTIANS we don't know them all. Jesus was HEBREW, so those LAWS did apply to Jesus, - they were NOT Pharisees laws, but laws from the time of Moses.
And ALL studied people of the bible know that JESUS was purposely breaking the laws, to show that JESUS and GOD is more powerful and not man made laws.
Those laws are still utlized today by orthodox Jewish people. But Christians don't deal with them.
Regardless, Jesus sinned according to the JEWISH laws, but NOT according to GOD.
Jesus, ergo is trying to oust out the pettiness of living rules and guides to get to the crux of life and important things to dwell and work on.
That is what ALL of his parables are about. About HUMANITY and TREATING humans well and not worrying about pettiness of certain laws that would NOT matter in heaven.
So, the bottom line: The Pharisees were bringing up the REAL laws - intimating that Jesus disciples should be stoned to death for their transgression of reaping and gleaning food from fields. Which if you look up the laws prohibited on the Sabbath that is included. Exodus goes on to say, one cannot even light a fire. NO work is to be done and they were very particular as to what constituted "work" the penalty was severe.
@anotheronem 2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death. i didnot see the words complete rest thank god jesus clarified the law because the people in charge in those days were interpreting the scripture like you and probably worse to control the people i belive
Further, I do NOT ascribe to the Old Testament at ALL. It is ancient bronze age male thoughts and actions that were horrific, especially against women.
I follow JESUS words. or how Jesus speaks to me IRL.
I am NOT the one misinterpreting the OT. The various RULES added to day of REST are on the internet in JEWISH laws from the talmud. So if YOU care to look them up - winnowing, threshing, even making a fire were NOT allowed on the Sabbath.
@anotheronem 14Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. jesus died for us not to face those penalties i belive that doesnt mean we should not strive to keep gods word does it? . the bible says who ever breaks these commands and teach men to do so will be least in the kingdom i love you in the lord . let evrey voice praise the lord
The problem with bible reading versus following what JESUS said? Too many people really cannot discern the "historical - (including myths) of the OT. and what Jesus really wants.
If one reads exactly what JESUS tells us to do? then there is no confusion.
But people get so confused reading all the bronze age ancient male stuff and believe every word of the bible has to be followed it becomes hard to discern for some.
The bible CANNOT be followed literally and those who try FAIL.
The bible is ancient writings of ancient bronze age men for the most part. Compiled from many manuscripts over centuries. from- an ancient male perspective.
Whereas, if one follows ONLY Jesus and the SPIRIT of the laws of JESUS, they will do fine. Jesus says do not worry about those things of laws of men, but of the spirit.
Feed the poor, tend the sick, love one another - love god with all ones heart, mind and soul. Matt 22, 25, Jn 1 Jn 4.
@anotheronem no jesus did not defy laws he forgave people because he has the authority then and now jesus took the laws of moses and gave the spirit of the laws he never taught against the ten commandments if i or you are seeing the scripyures wrong may GOD remove the veil i pray in jesus name peace
@anotheronem do you mean sabbath? friday at sundown til saturday sunday? wwjd ? keep the sabbath thats what he did not sunday you cant argue against that ? constatine the council of nicea changed it to sunday did they not? mens laws you have acepted ? and threw christmas in there with easter ..........iah 10 1-5 warns people against christmas trees doesnt it?.............. easter eggs dyed originally red because of sacraficed infants to nemrod and easteroth surely you knew that? peace
@anotheronem do you mean sabbath? friday at sundown til saturday sundown? wwjd ? keep the sabbath thats what he did not sunday you cant argue against that ? constatine the council of nicea changed it to sunday did they not? mens laws you have acepted ? and threw christmas in there with easter ..........iah 10 1-5 warns people against christmas trees doesnt it?.............. easter eggs dyed originally red because of sacraficed infants to nemrod and easteroth surely you knew that? peace
Oh true, and there is much more. Isis had a son who was sacrificed almost in the same manner as Christ.
There is a lot of myths from other peoples in the bible stories.
I think you and I are in line in some ways. The spirit of being a Christian is the key, not following archaic laws other than the 10 commandments and 2 new ones from Christ. matt 22.
Easter and Christmas? are good for us, even if they are not historically accurate. To remind us what is most important!
@anotheronem i understand that people were weeping for tamos in the temple ?and it angered god are you famillar with that king james took the word easter out of the new kjv and properply put passover there.
Why do you refer to the Pentateuch? which were ORALLY passed on for millenium. Then finally written down century upon centuries later, by many different authors.
Not all the "stories" would have remained exact and some were "borrowed" myths intertwined with their oral history - as in the sun stories of egypt and gods, there are similarities at times.
Regardless, Jesus is the one to follow and not even sure why you are arguing with me.
So back to the topic of the video. It has been proven that women have a right to preach. Jesus sanctions it in many ways. Romans 16, Acts and more sanction it. And it exists today. So, if you agree that women can preach, fine. If not, then you don't believe some of the bible.
@hebrewjisrael The office of an Evangalist, Pastor, Teacher, Elder, Missionary, just not the offices that are givin to the place of a man. Its called Devine Order. Sorry its been so long since ive been on here but be blessed.
evangelical preachers are pimps beating woman down based on one mans,not prophets,view.they never were holy ,and have no right to tell anything,not one thing
This is sooo sad :,( were living in a time and generation where people are so decieved and have a total twisted view of what God sees this issue as. Im a male, and since the beginning of time God has anointed MAN and given auothority over the
WOMAN because of her transgressions. Remember God called 12 MALE disciples to the ministry and not only that, when the Lord himself descended from the heavens he manifested himself as a man.
if u r on a plane going from chi. 2 ny does it matter who fly the plane? ur only concern is that u get 2 ur destanation safely. well that is the same in the church im on a plane tryin 2 get 2 heaven n i dont care who get me there just as long as i go.what seperate men n women..the WO..which means a MAN WITH A WOMB.....please pray for understanding before u preach something u dont understand....u almost sound like a white man saying DO BLACK HAVE THE RIGHT @ VOTE...just dont make since.
Sis! I m done God Bless You! I luv with the love of the LORD! This goes nowhere! please get the Holy Ghost and live a Godly life so that you can be caught up when Jesus comes in the mid AIR! I wipe the dust off my shoes as a testimony against you! Jesus is LORD!!
I love you as a Christian brother too. OUR job as laity - is to keep pastors, ministers, priests (male or female) on their toes..
Acts is one account of the action of the Holy Spirit after Jesus leaves. But Jesus tells us throughout Mtt, Mk, Lk & Jn how to come to HIM too.
I have been profoundly infused with the power of the Holy Spirit after turning my life to Christ, repenting and believing in HIM. It is my belief and faith in HIM that saves me. That is Christs' spiritual promise.
we can find thousand of good reason for let the woman preach, nothing against to that from my side, but in order to do that God will have to be put aside, it is up to the woman to decided, remember the bible said do not trust your heart, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
Jeremiah 17:9, we can jump, run, fly, if you want but at the end of the day obedience is what God expect from us. God bless you
amx1234567890 2 weeks ago
Amen u got to let the devil know
MrZaccheaus1000 3 weeks ago
To the person who told me to shut up:I do not apologize for the Truth of the Word. I heard the voice of the Lord saying to me "I want you to preach the Gospel". If you DARE to call that voice "the devil" you will be guilty of blasphemy of the Spirit. The more you tell me to "shut up" the more I will holler forth the Word of Life and save souls. And you will be cast down to Hell for your opposition to God's Word and Spirit
uncleoscar7 3 weeks ago
lets say if u was a woman god say preach my word on earth like i told u to or listen to others and u preach in hell wat is ya option choose wisely
MrZaccheaus1000 4 weeks ago
There isn't one. And if y'all gonna quote the scripture women learn in silence you would have to quote that thoughout scriptures that's tha only scripture yall can find to pull down the women therefore you all are missing out because of stubruness. Apostle Paul said them words because at tha time women didn't know how to act in church that's why learn ya word the rite way
MrZaccheaus1000 1 month ago
In the Kjv bible, find me one woman preacher. Testifying and telling isn't preaching cause I do it and I'm not a preacher.
kla7672 1 month ago
All preachers in Christ Jesus...No. He has no respect of persons but men and women have their place in the body of Christ.
kla7672 1 month ago
I will say this wether you agree or not I think women can preach see let me give you a story that everybody may know in the four gospels of the bible ( matt, mark, Luke,&john) all these men trying to quote the scriptures about how women can't preach. Now look at it this way the farisies and the scribes missed out on Jesus Christ because they knew the word but they missed because they was so cought up in tradition. Not only that if god called a woman to preach see have to do just like you had to
MrZaccheaus1000 1 month ago
Wow ill just stick to the bible don't go to church too many dummies allowing this crap to happen
BiGMANJOE32 1 month ago
I would not sit in a church under a woman or anyone who does not adhere and preach the rightly divided word of God. That is what I advocate (the Bible and sound doctrine). This is not a civil rights issue. It is a matter of God's ordinances. The moment it become a treatise in fairness, it has left the realm of Godliness.
pocu2005 2 months ago
Timothy Chapter 2 says what needs to be said.
pocu2005 2 months ago
job. The same is true in the church. The Biblical teaching of womanly submission is vastly different than the monstrous image that feminists paint of authoritative husbands and pastors. Women who enter the pulpit disobeying God, openly and shamelessly, which puts them in the same boat as demonic witches. Why did Satan choose Eve? The Bible does not reveal Satan's motive for beginning with Eve. But the fact the Eve was deceived does have something to do with women's prohibition from teaching men
truth1disciple 2 months ago
rebellious women church leaders, have twisted the Scriptures in an attempt to justify their rebellion (this is called apostasy). God calls men to preach/teach, not women. Women preachers are repulsive. It's just not right, ethically or biblical. Whenever you find a church with a woman in the pulpit, you'll find a liberal-minded church that is infested with doctrinal heresies.There is nothing inferior or demeaning about a wife obeying her husband, anymore than an employee obeying his or her boss
truth1disciple 2 months ago
of authority, and cries "inequality" if they don't get it. In Isa. 14:14, Lucifer wanted to be like"The Most High". Feminism and the Word of God are diametrically opposed to each other! Feminism is a Trojan Horse sin, that brings with it a slew of godlessness and woeful evils. Eve was deceived not Adam. It was Solomon's wives who turned his heart away from the Lord and introduced child-sacrifice (today's equivalent of abortion) to the pagan god Molech [1 Kings 11:4-8]. Rebellious women church
truth1disciple 2 months ago
family etc. I remind you that women are not solely responsible for this, but the spirit of Jezebel is so, so strong and the majority of men in the church, have the Ahab spirit, therefore, this is why the demonic spell of Jezebel runs many households, marriages, and is prevalent in the contemporary, Laodecian church. Women have equal rights, are of equal worth, and ARE NOT inferior to men in any way; BUT, woman DO NOT have a right to usurp authority over men. Feminism DEMANDS equalityin the area
truth1disciple 2 months ago
Feminism is of the devil. As with the lesbianism/homosexual movement, the feminist movement has changed the Word of God into a lie, "Who changed the truth of God into a lie... [Rom. 1:25]. Women preachers/teachers are false prophets. Women are SCRIPTURALLY forbidden to be pastors, preachers, or leaders over men in ANY capacity[ cf.Gen. 3:16; 2 Tim. 2:12]. The average woman today is a feminist in her philosophies. This is tragic and a curse upon America. Abortions, divorce, the breakup of the
truth1disciple 2 months ago
The Sin of Women Preachers- 1 Tim.2:11-12 admonishes,"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer [allow] NOT a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. Also to cross reference the N.T. with the O.T. , Gen. 3:16,"To the woman GOD said: 'I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; In pain you shall bring forth children; Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you"'. THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS not my words.
truth1disciple 2 months ago
God Called Men (Man) to be in leadership roles in the Church! Women who called themselves Preachers are under the chancery of the Devil! Watch my video on the subject righty divided! Still no have broke down this subject yet! if so write me any time share your thoughts! Be Bless! And remember Acts 2:42
bornest1 3 months ago
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bornest1 3 months ago
i totally agree. i just stated that women who preach do not use the bible as a defence but rather "i was called". what a joke. how can you prove that "cause i FEEL" i feel alot of things but that is no proof. gods word has stood the test now use it. if it is right then women who preach or lead men during services are in danger of not making it to heaven...is it really worth it????
jon083166 3 months ago
wow!!!! i do not hear any intellectual debate or apology all i hear is these women's opinion. but the bible in many places says this aught not to be. the end of this arguement is so simply and clear. paul and apostle who had the keys to the kingdom, authority unquestioned, who wrote most of the NEW TESTAMENT said women is not to use authority over the man in the church...period. he does not apologize for it. now if you do not care what the bible says, then fine, but dont call yourself a christi
jon083166 3 months ago in playlist OOPs!!!!!Caught you, Does this describe your Spiritual Life?
@jon083166 Why do people have bibles but walk contrary to what is written? I'm here for edification purposes only, not to give my opinion. When the smelly stuff hits the fan, I hate to be the one that says, "The word told you so!"
eproshunt 3 months ago
REVELATION 2:18-20 . when god spoke about thyatira it was in the OT. "And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: Luke 17:26. 2 kings 9:22 , 1 corinth 11:3, eph 5:23, eph 5:24,1 tim 2:12, 1 corinth 14:36. when people look at rev 2:18-20 they get witchcraft as something else in their mind but it is rebellion! woman do not scriptureally teach 1 sam 15:23 and if your part of it, bad things will come rev 2:22-23. I was called to get rid of thyatira
Tommylavallee14 3 months ago
@Tommylavallee14 Then how do you explain Judges 3 and 4?!
Glory2theLamb11 3 months ago
Women who preach are not obeying the word of God. Men are the head of women. Christ is the head of Man. Both men and women have different responsibilities as it relates to God's Holy business. In the US, women think that they are equal to men. YOU'RE NOT!!!! How can a woman preach when she's unclean at least once a month during her purification? She shouldn't be around anyone during that time especially Holy things. Don't get mad at me, get mad at the bible! The Gospel says NO!
eproshunt 4 months ago
@eproshunt WOOOOW. You STILL in the law? Jesus came to give us GRACE. Read the book of ACTS where the apostles discuss only a VERY select few laws that converts have to go through, and this is not one of them! Please explain Judges 3 and 4 to me, if you can.
Glory2theLamb11 3 months ago
@Glory2theLamb11 Deborah was a judge, not a PRIEST! A Judge handles disputes, see Exodus 18:13-16. A judge executes commandments as well. Women Prophetess and Judges were never ordained to make intercessions for sins or serve as Priests. Grace is a pardoning of our sins for transgressing the law. Yes, the Messiah died for our sins but Matthew 5:17 explains it clearly. Don't be so simple. Many are quick to obey man's laws but neglect the laws of the Creator of the Heavens and Earth. A shame!
eproshunt 3 months ago
@eproshunt Whats a shame is you don't know the Greek word for "head" actually means "origin" because woman came out of man. Whats a shame is you don't understand the verse "there is no MALE OR FEMALE in the body of Christ". What a shame is you don't understand that Jesus DID NOT say "Only men will do the things that I have done, and even greater." Only scratch out "only men" because He said "ANYONE who believes WILL do the things I have done, and even greater" Guess what Jesus did? PREACH!!
Glory2theLamb11 3 months ago
@Glory2theLamb11 Among other things, we know He healed the sick and called MEN OUT ON THEIR TRADITIONS instead of having a relationship with God!
Glory2theLamb11 3 months ago
@Glory2theLamb11 There's no such thing as a female or male spirit. We study the word to show ourselves approved with hopes of worshiping in spirit and truth. The Messiah isn't Greek. He's from the Tribe of Judah. He spoke Hebrew and walked perfectly in his Father's laws. Matthew 5:17 clearly explains his intentions. The Messiah spoke directly to his apostle, Paul, with specific instructions. I will not debate what is clearly written. The Most High will have mercy on whomever HE chooses.
eproshunt 3 months ago
Everyone will have their opinions about this - the Old Testament has lots of 'rules' that were followed BEFORE Christ was crucified, so I think you can't take every rule in the OT to heart..., I think individuals must pray and seek God before they jump to conclusions about the way some things are interpreted.
I believe women have callings on their lives to preach and teach - God will use WHOEVER ALLOWS HIM USE THEM -
krissyar 4 months ago
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eproshunt 4 months ago
@eproshunt The same Holy Spirit and Jesus lives inside BOTH men and women, where in the Bible does it say that is not true? God is NOT a respecter of persons, that IS in the Bible! You are afraid of women having equality and you're letting satan use you to oppress women, just like the Muslims and other religions around the world. Jesus gives us FREEDOM, not OPPRESSION!
Glory2theLamb11 3 months ago
@Glory2theLamb11 What are you saying, it is the word and its not ambiguous. We are not afraid, we go by the word and not by our feelings, trying to twist scripture to what WE want to do, our status whatever etc...
SuperGolfing1 3 months ago
@SuperGolfing1 I did not say it is ambiguous. I am simply going by what the Lamb of God said. "I tell you the truth, anyone who believes in me will do the same works I have done, and even greater works, because I am going to be with the Father." John 14:12 What part of that don't you understand? Jesus preached! Remember Sermon on the Mount??? He also healed the sick and fed the hungry. But you should SERIOUSLY look into the HISTORY to some of the verses you think constrict all women.
Glory2theLamb11 3 months ago
@Glory2theLamb11 Not saying you shouldnt preach. You shouldnt be ordained or preach in a church, especially to Men. Sorry for the confusion by all means spread that Gospel I agree with you there, its just in the capacity and where and who you are dong it. I hope I didnt offend you and if so sorry, Im just pretty orthodox with scripture or try to be.
SuperGolfing1 3 months ago
@SuperGolfing1 "Men" shouldn't be capitalized, btw. Only "Man" when you're talking about Jesus. Peter was not ordained to preach but when he was baptized by the HOLY SPIRIT & FIRE, Peter suddenly preached. Brother the ONLY qualification a person needs to preach the gospel to men & women is the HOLY SPIRIT.The Holy Spirit WILL use whoever He wants. All things are possible with God if He can talk thru a donkey to a man He can use a woman. You need to be humble enough to receive from a woman.
Glory2theLamb11 3 months ago
@Glory2theLamb11 Im very humble, I think its the other way around. I recieve a womans knowledge anytime as long as its lines up with the Bible, not authoritive, out of church. Brother its the word of God, take it up with him, Im orthodox, nothing against women. People like Joyce Myers, Paula White etc.... are being hypocrites. To follow the word they are preaching would change their life. Kinda like the fat person thinking there ok because they dont want to and never look in the mirror.
SuperGolfing1 3 months ago
@SuperGolfing1 Any Christian, man or woman has sat under a male preacher. But it takes REAL humility to sit under a female preacher. Your belief that women aren't equal and don't have what it takes to preach does not line up with the character of Christ. Yes, their are scriptures that contradict the character of Christ. Our job as Christians is to research WHY they seemingly contradict, & uncover the truth, which you'll find these verses are talking TO certain churches of THEIR time, not ours.
Glory2theLamb11 3 months ago
@Glory2theLamb11 Ok, first before I respond can you delineate the churches and times scriptures? Again you are taking this out of the subject. I didnt say women werent equal with men did I. Im just saying what God said their status in church to be. Take it up with him, are you saying he is not humble? Also give me the scriptures that contradict the charater of Christ. God is not the author of confusion is he wouldnt you agree. Hitting me back in that info and I will respond further. TY
SuperGolfing1 3 months ago
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SuperGolfing1 3 months ago
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Glory2theLamb11 3 months ago
@Glory2theLamb11 Yeah very familiar with Stone, wish he did more research on the gift of tongues, hes very exegesis there. Anway I dont care if you spend 2 million hrs studying anything if your results of the study dont line up with the word but rather personal feelings or sensitive seeking results. Where am I not following the scripture of Christ, please show me? Oh and yes, I research everything I hear to make sure it lines up, plus Im in Bible college. Could you expound on the lineage? TY
SuperGolfing1 3 months ago
@Glory2theLamb11..... Wrong
My friend! Peter was ordained to Preach! Read ..Mark 3:14 And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach. The whole duty of an Aposlte, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor, Teacher, Bishop, Elder is to Preach. Again I keep teaching on this subject. Listen to my brother in the video. Everyone is a Soilder (Soul Winner spreading the Good News) But Everyone is not a Commanding Solider (Called, ordained, appointed to Preach)
bornest1 3 months ago
@bornest1 No, Peter was a FISHERMAN. Remember that? He did not have formal training by man. The Holy Spirit came upon him and made him a preacher. The other twelve were ordained because they were also filled with the Holy Spirit. Remember the 120 in the upper room, some of which were women? Those were the ones "ordained". They were ordained by the Holy Spirit. A person DOES NOT need a man to say "You're qualified." The Holy Spirit qualifies when He baptizes a person.
Glory2theLamb11 3 months ago
@Glory2theLamb11
Did you read Mark 3:14. I given you the Bible you gave me your opinion! I never seen the time where every has there own interpretation on scripture. The Holy Ghost does call the (MAN) to preach. But every person with the Holy Spirit is not Called to 5fold Ministry. Everyone with the Holy Ghost is called to Witness or share or preach (Not Eccelesiastical). Again read the bible and give me scripture A Bishop has the authority to ORDAINED ELDERS (Ecclesiastical Preachers)
bornest1 3 months ago
Scripture:Titus 1:5For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain(some versions say Appoint) elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
I teach my church to never read the scriptures to be Subjective on your own Thinking or opinions but to allow the scriptures to teach from its on objective (the Holy Word of God).The problem with todays Church is we live now in the LAODICEA Period of the Church. Where Everyone is Right !!!
bornest1 3 months ago
Laodicea- Means the Judging of the Rights or rights of the People. This is the last period of the Church before the Catching Away(Rapture) and every has there opinions on the Bible. People that are not Call or ordained by God to interpret His Word have alot to say! Laodicea.... Laodicea I say!!! The judging of the People and their Rights! Rom3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar. Is Man Right or Is GOD WRONG! People read your Bible and Please learn from a God Sent Man!!!
bornest1 3 months ago
It doesnt matter who is spreading the gospel as long as they are true to Our Lord God....Stop bein concered with tradition and be more concered about your relationship with your Lord and savior if you dont think women should preach go to a church with a male preacher live a good life and ask Jesus about when you go see him. just sayin....
hsyanbozxj 4 months ago 3
wow
hsyanbozxj 4 months ago
The lady @4:08 mentioned men and women fighting in the Iraqi War. She believes it should be a message to the church that women are capable to preach. She mistakenly perceived that church and state should work together. The gov't runs the Iraqi War and also are the ones who recently approved gay marriage, which is an abomination to biblical lifestyle. Is she actually considering examples of the gov't, that right laws against biblical principles, a good reference for people to follow? Error!
ShockerAAA 4 months ago 2
@ShockerAAA ..you seem to concerned with this...you need to be more concerned about being less of a bitch...
blackvenomnicole 1 month ago
this man is a fluke for satan, women yall betta keep obeying God
ladylynn44 4 months ago 2
Women can be all a man can be in christ. Study to show yourself approved.
mtlindale 5 months ago
there is no fight lets just see what God has to say on this and the case is closed
brocklightning 5 months ago
The difference is you SINGING in the pulpit and you TEACHING in the pulpit.
xxcafe 5 months ago
Here is a question for you men* why do men who have had a covenant with God since the time of Adam fall short in this day and age. Men are suppose to love their wives as as Christ has loved the church...why are most men not taking the priestly roll in their home and making godly decision that would benefit their families. Love one another!
lilladyaustin 5 months ago
@lilladyaustin Jesus is the ONLY priest any person needs. The Bible does not say that a man is the priest of his home. No where does it say that in scripture. I know that is a widely believed doctrine people LOVE to believe, but it is not biblical. I've searched the scriptures but have not found it anywhere. Read Hebrews chapters 3-8, I believe.
Glory2theLamb11 3 months ago
I would never get this Dvd actually a woman created this mess because why is there only 1 male against all these female so called pastors ...but its ok cause pharo.. had 2 snakes and moses had one and stil got his point across ...I kno a lot of women and Men that is against it....These so call lpastor females gonna go straight to hell!! along with the gays for being disobedient to Gods word!!!
kimcrediblelove 5 months ago
@kimcrediblelove .. U need 2 read ur BIBLE & read it wholeheartedly because u really need 2 listen 2 what God is saying. Yes!!!! Women are called 2 preach HIS WORD. My questions 2 u... who was the 1st woman 2 carry the word of GOD? 2nd question... who was the 1st woman 2 carry the word from JESUS after HE rose from the dead? A word of advice concerning this read, pray & ask GOD 2 reveal the truths u seek.>ANSWERS 2 QUESTIONS.. 1. Mary...see Luke 1: 26-35 2. Mary Magdalene..Matt 28:1-10
GodsLady5470 4 months ago
@GodsLady5470 The bible clearlt states that overseers in the church are to be men who are the husband of wife, etc (Timothy, Titus) when you find me a woman who is the husband of one wife then we can talk...What people need to do is - stop tyring to manipulate God's word to bolster there own opinions. It's Ok for you to be a strong woman, a strong Godly woman, carrying the Word, but it is also God ordained to submit to the authority of a man who must submit to the authority of Christ (Cor)
kimcrediblelove 3 months ago
@kimcrediblelove And you would go because you capitalize "men" and lowercase "women" because you think having a penis makes you superior and thus should be capitalized like you're Jesus Himself. That is what it looks like you're saying. A man is a LITTLE 'm' same as in woman. Only Jesus can be Man with big "m".
Glory2theLamb11 3 months ago
we're severing the same God? i think we're reading a different bible. how else can you take the bible but litterly? you can make the bible say whatever you want it to.
1hogfan83 6 months ago
Is God ,the author of confusion?
NardoFree2 6 months ago
@NardoFree2 seems like it to me, why all the confusion over everything. an all knowing god should know how to be clear in his explanations and we shouldn't need to question at all, but we do coz we have brains and can think for ourselves.
jamomasha1 5 months ago
If a woman feels that god called her to preach, ok, but she can't convince me of it. Any one can stand up and state that they feel god called them to preach his word. But few understand where he put men and where he put women. And I believe that Jesus will handle all of this on his return.. "John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me." So all of you, get ready.
mikemillion2000 6 months ago
Both sexes deserve to preach about their imagination friend!
GreatHeroMahabir 6 months ago
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inferiority complex at its best.
Powell4184 6 months ago
I think its just the strong demand for equal rights for women has now effected Christianity and the church. I have no problem with equality, and in no way a sexist, and will never be one. The truth is, however, that God wanted things a certain way. So would you be calling God sexist? Reason I say God is because Paul is simply the middle man. If you pull out the sexism card, it shows that you have no concrete facts to support your argument. Don't blame me for what God wants in his House.
kwatts337 6 months ago
It is a shame that people try to "modernize" scriptures so that they fit in with society. My question is: If it is ok for women to preach, then why is there no scripture that clearly says so? Also, why is there scripture that clearly says that they should not? (ie. 1Tim 3:1-7) Malachi 3:6 says the Lord does not change. So why would His Word change due to women overcoming sexism in the workforce?
kwatts337 6 months ago
I must ask you this question. Are you God? If not, then you must keep you comments to yourself. What you are saying is not scriptural, and God WILL hold you accountable for your actions. By the way, God uses WHOEVER HE wants, NO MAN. I believe you will have to seek God with prayer and fasting to hear from GOD NOT MAN. Blessings.
specialinhiseyes 6 months ago
@specialinhiseyes What you are saying is not scripture! God never called a woman to preach! In the levitical priesthood, it was the sons of Aaron! Not his daughters! No woman is ordained to preach, it is simply not their assignment! Notice none of these women in this video USED ANY SCRIPTURE TO DEFEND THEIR POSITION! That says alot!
One ignorant woman says the bible was divinely given an inspired to 70 men! That shows you why women have no business in the pulpit!
thecovenantkeeper 6 months ago
@specialinhiseyesYes the Lord can use whoever he wants but< not as a Pastor...He just may use a women to give a divine word but not to take a permenant office as Pastor or Bishop......
PREACHAandTEACHA 5 months ago
It's funny none of these so-called anointed by God women to preach didnt use ONE SCRIPTURE to substantiate their point.
One ignorant woman preacher said the Bible was divinely given and inspired by 70 men! What 70 men is she talking about??? And what difference does it make?? These women dont even know scripture.
ToWorshipHimintruth 6 months ago
My intake on this...If God called a woman to preach,what can you do about it? Nothing!
pocketdrummer84 7 months ago
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ToWorshipHimintruth 6 months ago
I cried watching this simply because sexism is still present today and i feel as though a female will always be expected to be in the kitchen and clean up..i will meditate on this and wait for god's answer because i feel like i have a calling..!
taygirlify 7 months ago
There were no female priests in the temple! The office of the priesthood is simply not the job of a woman. The bible is clear. All you need do is listen to the nonsense spewing from these women's mouths. The Body of christ is not a womens liberation movement. Women have a role and men have a role and women scriptually do not have a role being a bishop, elder, deacon or pastor. The true God of heaven and earth DID NOT CALL ANY WOMAN TO PREACH! THAT IS A SATANIC LIE!
ToWorshipHimintruth 7 months ago
@ToWorshipHimintruth You need to go back to the altar an ask God to remove the scales for your eyes. You really need God to minister to you, because it doesn't seem like you are hearing from God. Touch not the Lords anointed. It's in HIS word.
specialinhiseyes 7 months ago
@specialinhiseyes Ms you have no idea what you are talking about! Show me some scripture not your rhetoric!
There was not 1 woman pastor, deacon, bishop or elder in the church. You people have the wrong idea about the bible.
ToWorshipHimintruth 7 months ago
Of course women can preach, and pray and prophecy, with a sign of authority on her head, or if she has shaved her hair off, but of course she is not supposed to usurp authority over men, or be a pastor, or teach unless it is the younger women. Men and women who don't know the truth about masculinity and femininity, i.e. what makes men and women equal, will of course have boundary issues, and will not understand Paul's teaching.They will try to make up explanations for Paul's teaching.
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
Is Paul Jesus?
And why is anyone following Pauls ideals, when Jesus set out simple ideals? Jesus defied rules and customs of the day.
Paul is a hypocrit then, because women were clearly leaders in the early church. Romans 16. Acts 18, 21. It is only men who have duped people for millenium who persist. I say, then they MUST follow every single thing in the bible too and they CANNOT! Customs or culture is NOT the spirit of the law that Jesus described.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem Madam you are prevaricator. One could waste much time on a woman like yourself. The word says to get rid a contentious person and trouble will cease.
What does 1 Cor 11 say, for a start ?
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
1. What did JESUS say on such matters?
2. There are a lot of things in the bible that MEN are required to do as well. Are you following them?
3. Pick and choose is the only way to manage following the bible. But WHO gets to pick and choose?
4. Let us examine what JESUS says because. Paul seems to create dualities. Rm 16, Acts. Gal 3:28. Cor 1 -11.
Long hair, head coverings? Hmm, it was the ROMANS who had short hair and the Jewish who had long hair.
Matt 6:25-28 , Luke 12:22
anotheronem 7 months ago
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@matriarchyh8r 1 Cor 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also [am] of Christ.
2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered [them] to you.
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
And why do you insult me? I am not even interpreting things my way.
Ancient men) who wrote ancient Jewish laws and rules or their understanding of their history and God in the bible. Enlightenment in the NT when Jesus came.
But always remember, Paul is NOT Jesus.
If men insist on interpreting or forcing people to obey some cultural or customary edicts in scripture or say that Jesus commands it, they are in error.
Jesus NEVER worried about many those things, only MEN did!
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem Your line of reasoning is not good. If you can answer me one question, I will be happy to discuss these points further.
(Q) In view of the fact that no male person ,or woman comes into the world but by woman,
and in view of how wonderful and multi-talented,gifted,beautiful,sensual,
aware,conciliatory,nurturing ,compassionate,communicative,
and ALLLL the other things that make women so Wonderful;- "What is it, that makes men equal
to women,or gives them equivalence?"
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
Equality of the male and female:
Intelligence, minds, hearts, souls. But to be equal in worth and treatment is the key.
But to pidgeon hole people into sexual stereotypes is not good either.
Men and women have different strengths and attributes on some points, but for the most part, we are all still body, mind, heart and soul.
Does Jesus ever refer to genitals? (and I am not being crass here). NO. He refers to hearts and souls!
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem Your answer is No answer at all. When you know that you know,the Truth, you can presume to speak from a position of some authority,without violation of the souls of others.I suggest you go back to the drawing board because you are not well founded enough.I am prepared to lay my life down for the Truth that has been revealed to me on this subject.:-) It is that important. I must decline to engage you, because it is unconstitutional for a man to debate a woman, as with another man.
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
Tell that to male clergy, or university professors (male and female). Jesus did NEVER say to not communicate or to that it was unconstitutional for a man to debate with a woman as with another man.
You and men made that up.
In fact why do you use the word "unconstitutional"? where is that used in the bible? that is a government law term, not a biblical term.
And when you find that men birth babies and where JESUS denied women, come back and post.
God Bless.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r I am for CHRIST. Are you for male supremacy at all costs?
Jesus elevated women many times to set example to men of the time and never once declared anything that would deny women.
You fear debate with me, because you know what I present is grounded.
Oh, when you head to a female emergency room doctor? are you going to LISTEN to her and let her have authority over you? Just wondering.
To restrict women and confine them? is NOT from Christ it is from man.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
You won't debate with women? because they will catch you up and not always agree with you. Actually, debate with both male and female shows courage and abilility, knowledge and willnessness to learn and be humble.
If you come up with something valid and that can be applied and makes sense in a Christ led way, then we can debate.
The TRUTH is JESUS, and what JESUS revealed. Not what Paul said, but what Jesus revealed and does to this day.
Blessings.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
And your lame excuse is just that, lame.
Most fundamentalists cannot keep up with me (not just typing), nor can they deny my points. For I can discuss what is in the bible. But all that cannot be followed to a T, because it is IMPOSSIBLE to obey every line of scripture without KILLING someone.
BUT--- To obey CHRIST is another matter altogether. Find where I disobey CHRIST then you may have a point. If not, I am for truth. CHRIST"S truth, not man made truth.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
Women finally (last century or so) had opportunity to be educated (post secondary), become lawyers, doctors, scientists) etc. truck drivers, sawyers, miners. Househusbands exist too, but that is more rare.
Physical strength - some brain patterns, seems to be the only difference (although I know many women who are physically stronger than some men a couple of my sisters included).
Intelligence is equal - although womens intuitive intelligence seems higher many times.
anotheronem 7 months ago
An eloquent look at some qualities of women in your comment? But you forgot strong, intelligent, diligent, capable, knowledgeable. Women are far more than just sugar and spice nice.
Most women I know are strong and capable. Most men I know are strong too. I am married to one. But some are NOT. Some are weaker in all ways than I am.
Men and women can retain masculine or feminine, but they don't need to restrict their work or life efforts to do so.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r A fine example of a scripture which validates Paul. 2 Peter 3:13-18. (15)And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
1. One can be very feminine and still be strong, independent, intelligent and lead people.
2. Sometimes women can intuit better
3. Women have taken longer for credibility due to having only male models to follow. But being a male leader is NOT really what women are called to do.
anotheronem 7 months ago
4. Leading people should not take away from either being or modelling feminine or masculine values.
5. There should be a balanced presence on the pulpit, so that needs of both are met in the congregation. Hopefully this will prevent male testosterone out of balance issues. ie sex abuse.
4. A panel of 12 council members should oversee any church and the leaders for scrutiny and conduct. 6 men, 6 women.
Jesus never denied women, only Paul and others did.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
Anyway, people do not seem to see the hypocricy, duality or dichotomy in statements that women can preach and prophecy, but they can't have authority over men.
Whereas, preaching and prophecy is authority over others.
Any man who listens and follows that preaching or prophecy has become under authority of a female vessel for God.
So, not even sure what people think when they state one and not the other apply.
Tim, Titus etc was not written by Paul btw.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem I'm happy to discuss the Doctrine of man, and the doctrine of God, and the doctrine of the Church,etc, however, I have found that these little boxes are not a satisfactory medium.
I will give a few quips on each box, but will write to you by email.
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
Studied: history, bible, protestant/catholic/orthodox Church doctrine, etc.
Hard to cover 1000's of years of history of the bible on YT, HARMS in misinterpreting and applying edicts in the bible. Some good, but mostly harms in history.
Gen 1 and Gen 2 contradict each other big time in the order of creation. already been debated or written by the way by many more esteemed than you or I.
anotheronem 7 months ago
When men BIRTH babies, then we can debate for hundreds of pages (which I have done more than a few times). Until then Jesus words, ways , the Holy Spirit seem to be best. Make sure to INCLUDE Mary Magdalene and Mother Mary as role models too, or else lopsidedness in observing how God really wants things will occur.
Blessings.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem I cannot receive a blessing from one so opposed to me.
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
Um, I am not opposed to YOU. I am opposed to a severe bias of men in the bible or interpreting said bible. I am all for CHRIST.
Don't take it personal. One has every right to examine and discuss scripture. Do you fear real debate?
Does Jesus say to love they enemy? So even a blessing from someone you feel is opposed is sanctioned by Jesus.
Blessings is a sincere prayer. For you to reject it, says a lot about your Christian heart.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem I am not shy of asserting authority, and Paul tells us to take note of those who do not walk according to his teachings, and have nothing to do with them.
I have debated contentious women in the past, usually the wife of some poor brow beaten chap, and he is grateful of someone disciplining her.
Also of course we are to warn others. Apart from that your own husband is your head. It is not for me to correct you.But removal of grace and favour is a legitimate form of correction.
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
Again, just an excuse. You can't debate me, or you would. Good thing I only have to ultimately account to CHRIST.
My husband and I approach our marriage as equals. We are not perfect humans, but after 35 years of marriage and many good accomplishments (not from us - but our abiding by Christs power) then I would say it works.
Equality in a marriage is where marriages thrive and survive. But that does not mean equal work or efforts in some things, one learns the distinction.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem He is welcome to you. I reject your assertions. I said I would be happy to discuss these topics if you could answer my question. But you have not the Truth. Only a baleful quantity of misapplied points, which serve your purpose of a spurious equality. And on that basis I would be foolish to respond to you. I have never encountered a woman who has been able refute what I know to be true. They usually get very nasty and the engagement can be very exhausting, so I refrain. ok. bye.
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
I am not out to convince you. You, however, obviously have issues regarding womens rights and equality. Good thing I have my husband, no way I want any man LORDING over me. Neither does my husband want anyone LORDING over him. God is sufficient.
It seems you wish to keep women bound to men, rather than do as Jesus wants.
I know what is in the bible and proved you in error. I also know the TRUTH and it is in NOT following MAN, but by following JESUS.
God Bless.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem I repeat ,-Madam you are prevaricator. One could waste much time on a woman like yourself. The word says to get rid a contentious person and trouble will cease.
What does 1 Cor 11 say, for a start ? You are under the common mind set, and consequently you interpret any suggestion of authority, as Domination and control. There is no such automatic stigma attached to the word, "rule".It should be, to do justice and judgement in love and humility,- (as Christ loved the church, etc.
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r I will not be responding again. As you say, you know what is in the Bible.So you are either wicked, or affected.I'm sure it is the later.I am sorry for your suffering but I am released from fighting with wild animals, except as I decide. I have clarified the situation. If your husband is happy with you as you are then that is for him. Your orientation draws from the spirit of anti-christ. Henceforth I am released from any account in your behalf, as I have made significant points.
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
You made no points, btw. And you did not begin to refute my comments. You bring up one scripture? Well, there is plenty more.
Where is your rebuttal, other than to personally declare you can lord over women and discipline them? unwarranted. Jesus did NOT deny women, Rm 16, Acts and more say women were church leaders and worked alongside men.
1 John 4. If you respond, I will respond. That is how it works. ;)
anotheronem 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
You never were accountable for anything on my behalf to begin with. The audacity and arrogance to believe so is very telling.
Only myself and JESUS are responsible for my soul. That is it. I can live and cooperate with my spouse and family, but everything goes to Jesus and NOT through men. If you think now you are above Jesus? hmm.
All the best and hope you figure it out.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r said in PM to me: It is specifically for the sort of abuse that you foam, that I have no pleasure in discussion with a female person of your persuasion.
Once I have made an honest attempt in upholding the truth I am released from any responsibility in regard to that truth on your behalf.
It would not make any difference what truths I would be able to verify with you, because the depths of your bitterness over unresolved issues knows no bounds."
anotheronem 7 months ago
He went on further to declare:
matriarchhaters words to me in PM. " Only if one died a horrible death, perhaps your bitterness would be satisfied.(Oh that's right Jesus already did that) You would make a good male muslim.
You should ask yourself and your husband, what you are looking for? Please do not reply to me again.I will block you from now. I do not bid you God speed lest I become a partaker of your evil deeds."
anotheronem 7 months ago
Well, sir:
1. I am a married woman of 35 years, faithful to CHRIST. Volunteer and work for my family. I would NEVER wish anyone to die a horrible death. So what was that ALL about?
2. Calling me a liar, or bitter or evil? because I can discuss the bible? and it is NOT to YOUR personal liking or that you do NOT get to have authority over me?
You can block me all you want, you are a bit scary, so perhaps I should be blocking you.
I do pray for you! and Christ will hear.
anotheronem 7 months ago
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anotheronem 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
You should have STOPPED antagonizing me, stopped responding to me and stopped falsely accusing me.
I had no choice but to defend myself against the horrible false accusations leveled at me.
Then to PM me? and say viscious lies about me? You are lucky I do not report you right now. If you persist, I will report you.
It is JUST a casual YOUTUBE commentary and you are WAY out of line and too intense. You are NOT God, so time self examine with Gods help.
anotheronem 7 months ago
I have not seen any man understand justice and judgement over a wife in humility and love, who also believes that he can "discipline" his wife. That is a dichotomy.
We all have our own minds, bodies and souls and go directly to Christ. We confer and support our spouses as do they with us. It is an equal worth marriage. 1 Cor 11. Is that a command from JESUS? or Paul's cultural thoughts? Do you follow every single LINE of scripture? or can one discern what is applied today? and from CHRIST!
anotheronem 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
Oh and what is with the matriarchyhater channel name? Have you been burned by a woman (or women?) and now can only think to diss women and be against them, rather than perhaps look at yourself or how men may be stepping out of bounds with women and their worth and rights.
Good thing this is the 21st century or you would be calling the clergy and townsmen to come "discipline" me.
Thank God we can study, work and know things for ourselves now.
All the best.
anotheronem 7 months ago
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@matriarchyh8r
Um, contentious? by whose standards? yours and some other select men only.
I am not contentious by Jesus standards btw.
I am quite capable of debate. Go back and refute my points and pretend I am not a man. I could have lied and said I was a man, what difference does it make? NONE.
I can refute and trump your points and that is why you back out with lame excuses.
Jesus did not discriminate, but men do.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
My husband would NEVER "discipline" me in the context you seem to suggest. What gives YOU or any man the right to discipline a wife? like a dog or child? That is outrageous.
My husband and I know how to communicate about important things and we do NOT undertake big things without consulting each other.
I am better at many things than my husband as He is better at many things. We have strengths and we collaborate to make the best of both our attributes.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
Oh and you more than likely could not fill my husbands shoes, because men who could do not say they would "disipline their wives".
He is an Industrial Electrical Supervisor of a Mill, with dangerous working areas.
He hunts, fishes, plays hockey, and many sports. He is a mans man all the way. But also a husband, father, son, brother, and good community member.
When men talk as you do, it scares me.
I will pray for you. Learn to respect women, it will help.
anotheronem 7 months ago
Do men have any status that women don't also have,? while the woman is herself the glory OF the man, was taken out of man, and created FOR the man, and no man comes into the world but by woman, and her adamic sin penalties were, I quote GOD, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception;in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children;and thy desire shall be to thy husband,and he shall rule over thee". Then consider 1 Tim 2: 11-15. Let the women learn in silence with ALL SUBJECTION. .......
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
There are some women out there in Youtube land, that understand what makes man equal to woman, in spite of being so easily swayed, against his own better judgement, by deceived yet glorious woman. Of course Adam was not born of woman, like we are, but we have no excuse, having the benefit of hindsight and the constant reminder of death and suffering in our bodies and the world around us, of the folly of being led by woman,an helpmeet, who being deceived was in the transgression
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
Well all i got is that in a home were the man is running from his calling in the household or at church then its ok for the woman to pick up the slack .... but people don't force your beliefs on others and cause them to stumble so with that being said we need to stop fighting each other and fight the devil.. "relient k - Down in flames" it deals with it .... but anyways what if instead of looking at whats different in our views how bout just agreeing that jesus is the way the only truth =D
syfrett5 7 months ago
Yes women can preach this gospel... His word doesn't say they cant be a pastor, teacher, minister, evangelist.(etc) he only gives divine order concerning positions that only can be held by man. which would be a bishop or apostle.... all of you be blessed and search the scripture for understanding. much love
churchboi008 7 months ago
@churchboi008 A pastor must be the husband of one wife. I hope you aren't into same sex marriage as well.
matriarchyh8r 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
1 Tim is not written by Paul. FYI
anotheronem 7 months ago
@matriarchyh8r
Just because I can see HOLES in Pauls writings does not mean I am homosexual or agree with homosexual marriage.
That is such a huge leap assuming anything about a belief because I examine what 1 Tim says? WOW! Church leaders, both men and women were addressed and highly commended by Paul in Rm 16. Junia as an apostle btw. And perhaps, just perhaps that address was to men, and the women were out doing something else that day. YOU and others cannot prove it.
anotheronem 7 months ago
1 Tim could very well have been regarding the common practice of having MORE than one wife. Why does Paul (or whoever authors 1 Tim) emphasize ONE WIFE.
More than one wife was NOT acceptable. Jesus also put away the concept of plural wives, but it was still practiced.
This passage seems to refer to confining elders to ONE wife and and not with restricting women from preaching. They could NOT say women have one husband because WOMEN were NOT allowed to have more than one husband.
anotheronem 7 months ago
Matthew 12:1-2 - gleaning food on the Sabbath - ie "working on the sabbath"
John 5:2-9 healing on the sabbath
Luke 5:27-42 eating with sinners (Pharisees upheld this was wrong)
Luke 7:40-50 "forgiving sins" this is going against the laws of scriptures.
John 4 samaritan woman at the well.
1. he is talking to a lowly samaritan woman. He forgives her sins.
Jesus many times breaks the LAWS of MOSES, but shows the REAL law to be followed: that of LOVE
Matt 22, 1 John 4.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem again your quoting scripture that is not there. joseph ate with sinners in potterphers house lol is it written saved people cant eat with sinners? lolololo forgiving sin where in the bible did it forbid jesus to forgive sin? is it a sin in the old testament to talk to samaritans? you cant show me one verse that jesus sin with scripture from the old testament scripture and verse. you justify yourself not following the laws by saying jesus did not
REAL88E 7 months ago
@REAL88E Acts 10:28 " And he said to them, “You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean"
The law stated that Jews were NOT to associate with Samaritans or other nations. Jesus knew this. In addition, men were not to talk with women privately without witnesses, especially a Samaritan woman.
So, perhaps you need to brush up on the laws.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem gleaning food ie working lololololol puting my clothes on brushing my teeth i.e. working lololololololol jesus did not go thru the fields picking the disciples did lololo0lolololololololololololololololololololololol
wow
REAL88E 7 months ago
@REAL88E
Ah, but JESUS condoned this action. So Jesus is complicit by walking through the fields with them and watching them disobey the Sabbath law about gleaning food.
So, semantics are at play.
Jesus healed on the Sabbath too, which was against the law.
So go through the other examples I provided. Your laughter is hollow. Jesus purposely defied the law of Moses to get the goat and reveal the hypocricy of the Pharisees. Perhaps you laugh? but why?
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem i contend the 12 disciples did not break that law your saying iether are you saved are just playing around with uninformed christians? if your saved then y are you saying jesus wasnt blameless according to the written tora if i break a wrong interpretation of the law im not breaking the real law of moses but the pharisees view of the law which was used for power and control. jesus was without bleemish according to the first five books of the bible and the prophets
+ new testaments
REAL88E 7 months ago
@REAL88E
Tja passage clearly states they disciples are breaking the law.
Jesus healed on the Sabbath, which was breaking the law.
So, some of Moses laws handed from God, were to NOT work on the Sabbath. The Pharisees are taking that law literally. So, I believe you might have brush up on facts.
Jesus was a "law breaker" and a "social law breaker" and corrected the Pharises.
I never said that Jesus had a blemish. I said he BROKE the laws of MEN. Huge distinction.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem jesus did not break moses law one bit he broke the law of the pharisees who hijacked it to control people you cant show me no scripture whatsoever because there is none you have the traditions that were passed down to you and unfortunately you bought in to the lie that jesus went against the written tora
REAL88E 7 months ago
@REAL88E
Exodus 35:2 or use 31:14
" You have six days each week for your ordinary work, but the seventh day must be a Sabbath day of complete rest, a holy day dedicated to the LORD. Anyone who WORKS on that day must be put to death."
There are over 600 laws apparently passed down by Moses - because we are CHRISTIANS we don't know them all. Jesus was HEBREW, so those LAWS did apply to Jesus, - they were NOT Pharisees laws, but laws from the time of Moses.
anotheronem 7 months ago
And ALL studied people of the bible know that JESUS was purposely breaking the laws, to show that JESUS and GOD is more powerful and not man made laws.
Those laws are still utlized today by orthodox Jewish people. But Christians don't deal with them.
Regardless, Jesus sinned according to the JEWISH laws, but NOT according to GOD.
Does that help you?
anotheronem 7 months ago
Jesus, ergo is trying to oust out the pettiness of living rules and guides to get to the crux of life and important things to dwell and work on.
That is what ALL of his parables are about. About HUMANITY and TREATING humans well and not worrying about pettiness of certain laws that would NOT matter in heaven.
anotheronem 7 months ago
So, the bottom line: The Pharisees were bringing up the REAL laws - intimating that Jesus disciples should be stoned to death for their transgression of reaping and gleaning food from fields. Which if you look up the laws prohibited on the Sabbath that is included. Exodus goes on to say, one cannot even light a fire. NO work is to be done and they were very particular as to what constituted "work" the penalty was severe.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem 2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death. i didnot see the words complete rest thank god jesus clarified the law because the people in charge in those days were interpreting the scripture like you and probably worse to control the people i belive
REAL88E 7 months ago
@REAL88E
Further, I do NOT ascribe to the Old Testament at ALL. It is ancient bronze age male thoughts and actions that were horrific, especially against women.
I follow JESUS words. or how Jesus speaks to me IRL.
I am NOT the one misinterpreting the OT. The various RULES added to day of REST are on the internet in JEWISH laws from the talmud. So if YOU care to look them up - winnowing, threshing, even making a fire were NOT allowed on the Sabbath.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem 14Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. jesus died for us not to face those penalties i belive that doesnt mean we should not strive to keep gods word does it? . the bible says who ever breaks these commands and teach men to do so will be least in the kingdom i love you in the lord . let evrey voice praise the lord
REAL88E 7 months ago
STILL- According to the bible, Jesus defied REAL laws as set out by Moses.
Of COURSE we have to BREAK the commands of killiing people if they don't go to church on Sunday.
Can you imagine?: The priest tells the parishioners to go KILL everyone who did not show up?
Or kill people for eating pork, shellfish. Kill the walmart girl for working on the Sabbath?
If JESUS died for all our sins and to NOT face barbaric penalities, then picking and choosing does not work.
anotheronem 7 months ago
The problem with bible reading versus following what JESUS said? Too many people really cannot discern the "historical - (including myths) of the OT. and what Jesus really wants.
If one reads exactly what JESUS tells us to do? then there is no confusion.
But people get so confused reading all the bronze age ancient male stuff and believe every word of the bible has to be followed it becomes hard to discern for some.
The bible CANNOT be followed literally and those who try FAIL.
anotheronem 7 months ago
The bible is ancient writings of ancient bronze age men for the most part. Compiled from many manuscripts over centuries. from- an ancient male perspective.
Whereas, if one follows ONLY Jesus and the SPIRIT of the laws of JESUS, they will do fine. Jesus says do not worry about those things of laws of men, but of the spirit.
Feed the poor, tend the sick, love one another - love god with all ones heart, mind and soul. Matt 22, 25, Jn 1 Jn 4.
God Bless.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem no jesus did not defy laws he forgave people because he has the authority then and now jesus took the laws of moses and gave the spirit of the laws he never taught against the ten commandments if i or you are seeing the scripyures wrong may GOD remove the veil i pray in jesus name peace
REAL88E 7 months ago
@anotheronem do you mean sabbath? friday at sundown til saturday sunday? wwjd ? keep the sabbath thats what he did not sunday you cant argue against that ? constatine the council of nicea changed it to sunday did they not? mens laws you have acepted ? and threw christmas in there with easter ..........iah 10 1-5 warns people against christmas trees doesnt it?.............. easter eggs dyed originally red because of sacraficed infants to nemrod and easteroth surely you knew that? peace
REAL88E 7 months ago
@anotheronem do you mean sabbath? friday at sundown til saturday sundown? wwjd ? keep the sabbath thats what he did not sunday you cant argue against that ? constatine the council of nicea changed it to sunday did they not? mens laws you have acepted ? and threw christmas in there with easter ..........iah 10 1-5 warns people against christmas trees doesnt it?.............. easter eggs dyed originally red because of sacraficed infants to nemrod and easteroth surely you knew that? peace
REAL88E 7 months ago
@REAL88E
Oh true, and there is much more. Isis had a son who was sacrificed almost in the same manner as Christ.
There is a lot of myths from other peoples in the bible stories.
I think you and I are in line in some ways. The spirit of being a Christian is the key, not following archaic laws other than the 10 commandments and 2 new ones from Christ. matt 22.
Easter and Christmas? are good for us, even if they are not historically accurate. To remind us what is most important!
anotheronem 7 months ago
@anotheronem i understand that people were weeping for tamos in the temple ?and it angered god are you famillar with that king james took the word easter out of the new kjv and properply put passover there.
REAL88E 7 months ago
@anotheronem jeremiah 10 v1 threw 5 tells about christmas trees
REAL88E 7 months ago
@REAL88E
Why do you refer to the Pentateuch? which were ORALLY passed on for millenium. Then finally written down century upon centuries later, by many different authors.
Not all the "stories" would have remained exact and some were "borrowed" myths intertwined with their oral history - as in the sun stories of egypt and gods, there are similarities at times.
Regardless, Jesus is the one to follow and not even sure why you are arguing with me.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@REAL88E
So back to the topic of the video. It has been proven that women have a right to preach. Jesus sanctions it in many ways. Romans 16, Acts and more sanction it. And it exists today. So, if you agree that women can preach, fine. If not, then you don't believe some of the bible.
anotheronem 7 months ago
@hebrewjisrael The office of an Evangalist, Pastor, Teacher, Elder, Missionary, just not the offices that are givin to the place of a man. Its called Devine Order. Sorry its been so long since ive been on here but be blessed.
barachiel12345 7 months ago
evangelical preachers are pimps beating woman down based on one mans,not prophets,view.they never were holy ,and have no right to tell anything,not one thing
angelcomet1 7 months ago
This is sooo sad :,( were living in a time and generation where people are so decieved and have a total twisted view of what God sees this issue as. Im a male, and since the beginning of time God has anointed MAN and given auothority over the
WOMAN because of her transgressions. Remember God called 12 MALE disciples to the ministry and not only that, when the Lord himself descended from the heavens he manifested himself as a man.
Smario0917 8 months ago
Sheryl Bradly
gooksound 8 months ago
Edward Keyton is ~absolutely~ correct!
And I'm a woman!
GreenCures 8 months ago
if u r on a plane going from chi. 2 ny does it matter who fly the plane? ur only concern is that u get 2 ur destanation safely. well that is the same in the church im on a plane tryin 2 get 2 heaven n i dont care who get me there just as long as i go.what seperate men n women..the WO..which means a MAN WITH A WOMB.....please pray for understanding before u preach something u dont understand....u almost sound like a white man saying DO BLACK HAVE THE RIGHT @ VOTE...just dont make since.
55dramos 9 months ago
i believe it is wrong that women can preach but at womens camp they can lead a Bible study or give a thought but not preach....
joshuabarron92 9 months ago
Sis! I m done God Bless You! I luv with the love of the LORD! This goes nowhere! please get the Holy Ghost and live a Godly life so that you can be caught up when Jesus comes in the mid AIR! I wipe the dust off my shoes as a testimony against you! Jesus is LORD!!
bornest1 9 months ago
I love you as a Christian brother too. OUR job as laity - is to keep pastors, ministers, priests (male or female) on their toes..
Acts is one account of the action of the Holy Spirit after Jesus leaves. But Jesus tells us throughout Mtt, Mk, Lk & Jn how to come to HIM too.
I have been profoundly infused with the power of the Holy Spirit after turning my life to Christ, repenting and believing in HIM. It is my belief and faith in HIM that saves me. That is Christs' spiritual promise.
anotheronem 9 months ago