I watched Jordan every night during this period. These highlights reconfirm what I've always believed... that Michael Jordan - had he agreed to continue playing the point - would have totally redefined the position.
It also reminds us of just how remarkable Tiny Archibald's stats were for an entire 82 game season: 34 points per game, 11.4 assists per game. Unbelievable. I think the longer that record lasts the more it will be appreciated. It will take another MJ or Tiny to break it.
You usually don't see Jordan play a game like this. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird usually have games like 22 points 11 rebounds and 11 assists. Where as Jordan's games from what I've seen were like 34 points 5 rebounds and 3 assists. Maybe Jordan was trying to emulate Magic or experiment with his game? Now if you think your a basketball expert don't be writing me about my incorrect statistics, I made a general comment that I think most will agree with.
@Flipper79able While normally true (though Jordan averaged 6+ rebounds and 5.5+ assists for most of his career), this was part of a stretch where he played PG. He had a 19-game stretch where he finished with double-digit assists 17 times and averaged 11.95 per game. He also put up 11 triple-doubles in that span and had 3 more games where he was 1 or 2 assists or rebounds (but not both) away from doing so. Then he put up 34/11/9 a couple games later, 34/14/11 a couple games after that.
@Flipper79able Doug Collins (the 1989 Chicago Bulls coach), thought that the Bulls had a better chance of winning with Jordan distributed the ball. Hence why he's played point god for 11 games!!!
starks23, yo that is crazy. That's directly from a 5 6 PG who can dunk with EASE. I used the nba training program at "50inch vertical (dot) com" and gained more than 12 ins on my dunk.
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shit, outrageous moves. starks23 I really like the end =) Could you believe that I trained enough to start dunking! I just used the a real training routine at (50 inch vertical [dot] com) and made it in just 2 months!
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starks23 You play basketball? you gotta check out - 50 inch vertical (dot) com - It's a specialized training workout that will def make you begin dunking and you don t even need to go to the gym if you don t want to!
starks23, yo that is beast. That's spurting from someone who s the shortest on his team but do windmill dunks. I followed the dunk training program over at | 50 inch vertical [dot] com | and increased more than 12 ins on my jump.
starks23 dude, I improved over 12 ins on my leap by completing the workout over at | 50 inch vertical [dot] com |. now being outrebounded is nothing I have to be anxious about in basketball finally, lol
man i miss the days were the defence was being played man on man where you would see the the best players guard each other and we would see the best of both players.when i watch kobe or lebron or nello paly against each and never see them play defence against each other.just said
I really hope another athlete comes along like Mike so I can actually be interested again and want to cheer for. Today's product just isn't doing it. Hopefully another Jordan or Tyson comes along. Someone to keep me glued to the TV like the good ole days. The new shit is a bore in general. I find the UFC to be the only semi interesting event that I actually root for certain fighters. Still rather the Bulls runs. Now that was electric!
@westy44cal YOOO SAY WORD. JORDAn AND TYSON HELD SHIT DOWN CUZ U KNEW YOu WERE SEEING AMAZING HAPPEN. SPORTS ARENT THE SAME.. GRETZKY LAWRENCE TAYLOR ALL GOATS... Jordan I think was amazing cuz he was an Aquarius it was like he was from the future and all ready knew WTF was gonna happen or rather controlled what was going to happen. The master of time lives in a "time" where "time" has no place. Air Jordan AkA Infinite Air
Jordan was an Aries. Aries are the most competetive people ever. And for anyone who doesnt believe in Astrology go fucking look up Aries. And see if thats not the definition of this man.
Uhmmm first off dont message me again jackass. Second, the constellations changes have shifted over the last few thousand years and the actual cut off date for the changing of the zodiac is around the 21st. Now if you knew the zodiac you would know there are things called Cusps. Its when your a few days before and after that cut off date. I was born on the 18th of May Im a taurus but I have a shit ton of Gemini traits cause of how close I am. Like I said. Read Aries
Oh you are right. Thats my bad player. I was thinking of April. Shares alot of Aries traits however. I wouldnt be surprised if other planets affected his bday
no homo but I love basketball. I'm only 5’8 and I dunk in my highschool team games . I'm in my school’s varsity team and my dunking impresses everyone (esp the girls lol). It was honestly really easy, I just followed the special training program over at snipurl[dot]com/nbatraining - anyone can do it.
once the bulls got scottie and horace grant, in 88 and 89 the bulls went 3-1 against the showtime lakers. that plus the 1991 nba finals shows the dynasty bulls could beat magic and worthy's lakers even with kareem, cause the 88 89 bulls werent nearly as good as the 90s bulls(cause scottie and horace hadnt hit their primes yet), but they still went 3-1 vs showtime
actually 302 your probably some Magic fan who just seen a bunch of fancy passes from magic thinking thats every pass he did. MJ in half a season playing PG had almost as many triple doubles as magics best season. Dont believe me look it up. Im sorry but MJ was just as quick as Magic on the passes and his court vision was just as good. I could argue that MJ was faster and attracted the double teams to free his teammates but once again your another laker fan who denies logic.
@radiolaugh yes but this aint truth....we both know thats not why u got the thumbs up....most people dont think mj was as good a paseer as the other mj....which i guess is what ur implying or something ...
Now that we have the kobe fairies under control we can discuss real basketball. People always undermine Jordans abilities. I think he could have been equal if not greater compared to Magics passing ability if he continued to play the PG. I also think the bulls could run the fast break just as well as the lakers could
GoingOn9Lives, Are you on something? You refer to passing as if it were a static action like walking or blinking. It's far more dynamic, for all the apg Michael might have had as a PG it still is not anywhere near the level of intelligent passing and ball movement that Magic possessed. I've read your inane comments before and you are obviously one of those Jordan=God types. Jordan was great at lots of things, passing was not one of them. Let it go...
I will say this again for you kareemali and the rest of the 12 year olds. They put in zone to increase scoring because players are not talented enough to drive to the basket or create open shots one on one anymore. You idiot. 80's/90's players played zone in college. An old 40 year old Mj played in 2003 against zone and averaged just about the same as kobe. Damn your stupid. I feel like Im taking crazy pills.
The flow of the game in this era was awesome to watch. When Magic came back in 96, although being a step slower, he embarrassed the new breed night in and night out. There is no doubt in my mind that the mid 80s to early 90s is the most talented era in basketball.
It's amazing that during this phase of MJ career people where saying he was just a one man show and could not improve his teammates. Hard to believe people could say that when he was punting on performances like this. I guess it shows that no matter how good you are some people just won't to bring you down.
Magic Was great but Jordan was just the better all round player he deserved the MVP award in 89 not magic. Magic just played on the better team. In my opinion MJ should have one every regular season MVP award from 87 to 98 not counting the 95 MVP because he didn't play all of the season and 94 because he was retired.
That idiot doesn't know what the hell he's talkin' about LOL!!
How the hell can these pseudo zones be tougher & harder to score against, when the Top 10 Scorers in the NBA had a 23% increase in PPG avg, 1 year "AFTER" they changed the Defensive Rules?
LOL!!
The NBA "ADMITTED" to changing the def rules in order to INCREASE scoring & SPEED UP the game, so how can these new rules be "tougher" to score against?!!
c'mon....wide open 80's? whats that supposed to mean? the 80's had the sickest defense dude...guys of the 2000's era may be more athletic, bigger and stronger whatsoever but they are not as good as the 80's as far as defense is concerned...review your knowledge about the word competitive man....take a good look of redrums comment, now thats the way you should do your analysis...support it with something substantial...
John Holliger a writer for espn said in a recent article that the pace played today is the slowest in leuge history. He said that if the current suns played in the 80s r 90s they would not have been a run and gun team by 80s standards. Simple basket ball when a team plays up tempo there are more oppurtunities to score and pad stats and less to defend. .
Hollinger also said that this bulls team under collins would be like a fast paced team today. You can look at this era and tell when someone took a jumpshot the defender was no where to be found. They rarley ever fought for post position. IKnow its important for u guys to hold on to this time because u have an emotional attachment to it but admit that basket ball has progressesed worldwide.
Look at how much trouble the redeem team had. The players today are more advandced. That doesnot mean that the players from this era would still not be great but it would be more competetive now
I've also read that article by Hollinger, and another reader made a good point that Hollinger ignores mentioning some changes in the rules, particularly ones making life much easier for guards. I don't think you actually watched basketball in the 80s and 90s, since you're getting all your info from ESPN mags. It was some physical shit man, and i'm 25, i'm not some old-timer, but i remember it. the guys are strong but whiny premadonnas today
i never said it wasnt physical, but physical doesnt mean it was more competetive, thats all im saying,u can play one on one ball alot easier back then, U also could dribble without worrying about that 5 second rule they put in. It was easier for a superstar to isolate one side of the loor and go to work.u cant do that now because they will box and 1 and stack the zone
dude you saw what happened to kobe against detroit and boston that plays physical d. the 80's d of houston,Boston,Detroit, then the 90's knicks heatand suns is superior than of Detroit and Boston because of the rules back then.
i think the players are bigger stronger and faster and i know for a fact that that box and 1 zone d efensense is superior to that iso man to man they played in that era. its just the simple evolution of basketball
for one im 30 yrs old, for 2 they play matchup zones every game , watch the game and maybe ull learn something .I came up in that era.If u watched u would see that they still handcheck today.U jordan jesus worshipers disgust me. He is the only reason u guys try to say that that era was tougher when its so much deeper now
Sorry to burst your ignorant & uniformed opinion, but this is a 4 team league (era) now..
Subtract the All Star calibur players & the 5-10 honorable mentions, the league now is "mediocre" with a bunch of 1 dimensional, fundamentally unsound & limited role players compared to the NBA of the past.
This is WHY they changed the rules!
U had more great players outside of the stars in the 80's & 90's, which allowed for more player diverstiy & better team play.
It's not harder to score in this era and if you know how to attack a zone defense you can get your points. "U jordan jesus worshipers disgust me.". I don't think anyone has equated Jordan with being jesus and the ones that do just go too far. There's someone on YouTube named "Kobe24OwnsJordan" and they call Kobe "God". It's pretty funny that you're saying this stuff about Jordan fans when you're subscribed to PAH who covers up for Kobe all the time.
some kobe fans go too far too ,but the jordan fans act like he was beyond reproach. But i do have to say it was easier to playone on one ball back then, u could iso real easy. The zone will force u to take low percentage shots if u try to go at it 1 on 1. But im done arguing wit people they just want to build a case for jordan by tearing down the new generation. They sound like my grandfather praising the 60 and 70s and how it was more physical back then
Jordan is by no means untouchable (I personally don't think that he is the undisputed best ever) but Kobe doesn't compare to him at all. Kobe wasn't playing against a zone and teams rarely play that way.
thats the thing they play a man to man matchup zone nowadays because there is no illegal defense a player can just lag in an open area where as in the previous era u had more space to operate. So u can just stack players on one side of the floor. It just makes it harder to go one on one every time down but wit passing and shootin it can be beaten but that 10 sec dribble iso stuff in the 90s is gone
The committee instituted a 3-second rule for defenders in order to [prevent] teams from [parking taller players] in the post. The goal was to [free] the lanes & [encourage] cuts & drives through the paint. With those changes, among other factors, offenses have [opened up] & scoring has [climbed]."
"Our rules are [designed] to [allow] players to [penetrate] for [high percentage] shots. This has [allowed] for more high quality [perimeter] shots as well, because of how much [easier] it is to penetrate today."
-- Stu Jackson; NBA Executive Vice President, Basketball Operations
So goes your bogus & nonsensical claims about today's defensive rules being tougher, thus making it a more competitive league today..
Desides, all a zone does is allow a team to double U off the ball.
The 3-sec, no handcheck & illegal defense, i.e. the NBA's new "offensive oriented" interpretations of these rules, ALL "negate" the productivity of the zone & ties the hands of the defenders.
It's easier to score on these so called "zones" than tough, aggessive & physical man to man where U can body & handcheck the offensive player, thus not allowing him to get off clean shots..
Pippen was not anywhere near the "greatest all-around playmaker in the NBA" for even one year, much less 4-5 years. Best playmaking SF from '92 (Bird's last year; he was injured) until about '96 (when Grant Hill emerged), yes, probably.
Why noy? He only played PG for a small portion of that season and ended up in 8th place in assists for the season. Even still he played a position nearly his entire year that is not known for assists, shooting guard, and still ended up with over 5600 assists. So realistically speaking, if he had been playing PG his whole career he just might have.
Jordan put up 10 triple doubles in 11 games and that was with a groin injury late in the season lol anything is possible with Jordan. He was a scorer and an unbelievable defender that was his game and he stuck to it but he was capable of doing anything and he showed it numerous times
Reading the article on the right, it makes you wonder why he didn't stay at PG. I don't know whether he would have been as good a PG in the triangle, but he was definitely a better passer than either John Paxson or Ron Harper, who played PG during the championship years. He averaged 8 assists a game that year and didn't move to PG until towards the end of the season. If he had played PG the entire year, he might have averaged a double double the entire season.
MJ wanted to differentiate himself from Bird and Magic. Playing PG for the remainder of his career would've ruined that distinction. Ironic that MJ also played Bird's position (SF) for the Wizards.
Jordan took a bunch of nobodys and made them champions. Phil was there to coach him along the way. But without Jordan that bulls team was barely above a 500 team.
What? Are you calling Scottie Pippen a nobody? Let me tell you something, Jordan is the greatest ever but without Pippen, Jordan doesn't win one title... Just ask Mike, he said it himself...
Duhhh!! Why do U y'all say that as if that's some "Unknown" factor? Of Course NODBODY wins Titles by themselves!
And Pippen didn't even START his 1st 3 yrs & was the 7th best player on the Bulls during that time.
So U mean to tell me during that time, when MJ was taking that God Awful team he inherited as a Rookie to the Playoffs, somewhere they hadn't seen since '81, & while he was taking them to 50 Wins in '88 & pushing them 1 step closer EVERY year, this was because of Pippen?
The fact that you would attempt to down-play Pippen's greatness reveals your low basketball IQ... You need superstars to win NBA titles... Not 1 superstar but at least 2, ideally 3... There's a lot of components that go in to winning titles... And for the Jordan-Bulls it started with Jordan, but Jordan was very fortunate to have had Pippen as a teammate, Jackson as a coach and Krauss as a GM... Apart from Jerry West, Krauss was the best GM of his era... Krauss built that team...
I never said MJ "DIDN'T" need a good complimentary player. Apparently, U don't read too well & you're trying to question my IQ? LOL!! Whatever man..I suggest U re-read my previous comment.
Like I said, he didn't even start his 1st 3 yrs & didn't show any of the CONSISTENT flashes of the player he later became, until late '90!
We're talkin' about the SAME guy who at that time, ONLY averaged 8 pts in the Reg Season & 10 pts in the Playoffs & had VERY LITTLE to do with the teams success during those formative years.
So please, stop trying to act as if he came in from DAY 1, being the "That Guy" & defensive juggernaut he LATER became. Please!!
Yes he's one of the GREATEST SF that ever played..hell he REVOLUTIONIZED the position, but he was not "THE" perfect complimentary player from the onset like you're claiming..
Now you're calling Pippen a "good complimentary player"? You're confusing Pippen for Horace Grant... "Good complimentary players" don't get voted one of the 50 greatest players in NBA history..."Good complimentary players" don't hold the all time record in both assists and steals for a forward... He also holds the all time record for steals in the playoffs.. You also stated that he didn't start his "1st 3 years"? Wrong!!! He became a starter his rookie season during the 88 playoffs...
The "STARTING" lineup for the 1987-88 Reg Season & Playoffs was MJ, C. Oakley, D. Corzine, S. Vincent & B. Sellers..
I suggest U do ya homework & stop embarrassing yourself. I'm old enough to remember those formative yrs for the Bulls. Besides, I have those games on VHS & DVD..
Yes Pippen was voted 1 of the Greatest Players ever..rightfully so, given what he did in REVOLUTIONIZING the SF position, but lets be honest, his "Primary" role on the Bulls was that of a COMPLIMENTARY fashion.
I'm not questioning his place amongst the pantheon of the ALL TIME greats in terms of what he became, I'm merely stating that he, during the "Formative" years of the Bulls, WAS NOT the player you're claiming he was. He had "VERY LITTLE" to do with the teams success in those years..
"He had "VERY LITTLE" to do with the teams success in those years"?!?! blackadam, are you smoking fuckin crack?!?! If so, put down the pipe, please... Let me put it in simple terms for you... WITHOUT SCOTTIE PIPPEN, MICHAEL JORDAN DOESN'T WIN A SINGLE TITLE... Your attempts to down play Pippen's greatness is futile... I suggest you go to wikipedia and do a little research on Scottie Pippen... Complimentary player?!?! You're on crack...
Apparently U don't READ to well do U? I said in the "FORMATIVE YEARS"..U know, PRE-Title Years Idiot!!
"WITHOUT SCOTTIE PIPPEN, MICHAEL JORDAN DOESN'T WIN A SINGLE TITLE"
Duhh!! I never said he did!
"Your attempts to down play Pippen's greatness is futile"
I NEVER TRIED TO! Do U not READ?!?! Again, FORMATIVE YEARS!
And ANYONE stupid enough to use Wikipedia as reference, shouldn't charge ANYONE, with being on crack! U do realize people can edit/change the info on there right?
No shit! He obviously was a better player by the time they won their first title, his 4th year in the league. But remember, in his first 2 years they took Detroit to 6 games in the semi's. And by his 3rd year the Bulls took the Pistons to 7 games in the Eastern Conference finals. So your quote in which you stated "He had "VERY LITTLE" to do with the teams success in those years", is completely inaccurate. Pippen had an immediate impact on the Bulls success albiet a larger one by his 4th year...
did you forget? son of a bitch, that jordan won mvp and dopy....that year along with the scoring and steals title little bastard. pippen had very little to do with that,being those are individual awards, that because of jordan's dominance in the league,got the bulls to 50 wins in 88 whore.
btw,don't try to downplay the importance of getting a new coach in doug collins bitch,he was a big part of the bulls turn around during the late 80s, just from the stand point that he brought a new way of playing for the bulls team...and a new defensive philosophy as well. doug collin was jordan's first real head coach bitch before that he had noone you lose
Damn, you're one angry crack baby... What happened, not enough love from mommy and daddy? If you read my comments with any sort of impartiality and objectivity, my point would have been interpreted with clarity... But noooo... You're so hell-bent worshiping MJ, that others opinions are taken personnel... Go read a book...
in other words i've destoryed you,now get the fuck off jordan videos bitch...pippen was a sidekick just like kobe. the only difference is pippen has 6 ships and kobe has none you lose
Again, put down the crack pipe and come back to reality... Michael Jordan, yes MJ, the guy you fuckin worship said it himself, without Pippen he wouldn't have won rings... And yes, we all know Jordan's the greatest ever... No one is disputing that... So relax... But to win titles you need superstars (plural)... Not one, but at least two, ideally three... And for the the Bulls it was Jordan and Pippen, the greatest combo in history...
It's also absurd how you've referred to the man on multiple occasions as a "complimentary player"... Yes, it was Michael's team but he had a superstar sidekick in Pippen... Just as the showtime Lakers were Magic's team, but are you going to tell me that Worthy and Kareem were "good complimentary players"? Again, you need superstars (plural) to win championships... Jordan was the greatest ever but he was fortunate to play alongside a top five player of his generation...
hey moron, aka conni70,pippen came into the league averaging seven points a game on 46 percent shooting stupid motherfucker....not to mention he didn't start scoring 20 points per game until his fourth year in the league.
It's not all about points moron. Pippen was the greatest all around playmaker in the NBA for 4 to 5 years. So what if he averaged 7.9 ppg in his first year you dummie.
During Pippen's rookie year Sellers began the 87-88 season in the starting line up... However, by the playoffs Jordan and some of his teammates were begging Collins and the Bulls coaching staff to start Pippen over Sellers... Jordan couldn't stand Sellers and his soft play... Pippen took Sellers' starting role against the Pistons in the conference semi's... Try and research that yourself... But you're wrong either way because you said Pippen didn't start his first 3 years... Wrong, wrong, wrong!
Well....Michael Jordan was more than a man but less than a god...He is like Hercules and damn he makes a pretty awesome game....But then, he's getting weaker since he's getting old....His talent slowly diminish as he's aging...Kobe's the new dominant player this year but not as great as MJ not even half...But he's still unstoppable and I get the feeling that he's getting improve...
the "political" nature of MVP only works as a testament to jordan's level; he should have won at least half of the years he didn't win, and kobe's this year was charity
i'm not a kobe fan at all, but to say that nearly everyone on the lakers squad was 3x better than kobe is is the most preposterous thing I've ever heard. you sound stupid as shyt.
in fact, there's no player in the history of basketball that's even twice the player Kobe is. You don't even know how much I despise Kobe, but as a basketball fan, I'm insulted by what you just said. Totally inaccurate.
I watched Jordan every night during this period. These highlights reconfirm what I've always believed... that Michael Jordan - had he agreed to continue playing the point - would have totally redefined the position.
It also reminds us of just how remarkable Tiny Archibald's stats were for an entire 82 game season: 34 points per game, 11.4 assists per game. Unbelievable. I think the longer that record lasts the more it will be appreciated. It will take another MJ or Tiny to break it.
ThePointGuardDotNet 3 months ago 2
That layup by Pippen @ 0:55 was a thing of beauty.
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Jordan will always be the best.
rocketrj1 5 months ago
I don't remember this game in particular, but I do remember that stretch of games when MJ played PG and was racking up triple-doubles left and right.
VinmanMJ23 9 months ago
You usually don't see Jordan play a game like this. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird usually have games like 22 points 11 rebounds and 11 assists. Where as Jordan's games from what I've seen were like 34 points 5 rebounds and 3 assists. Maybe Jordan was trying to emulate Magic or experiment with his game? Now if you think your a basketball expert don't be writing me about my incorrect statistics, I made a general comment that I think most will agree with.
Flipper79able 11 months ago
@Flipper79able While normally true (though Jordan averaged 6+ rebounds and 5.5+ assists for most of his career), this was part of a stretch where he played PG. He had a 19-game stretch where he finished with double-digit assists 17 times and averaged 11.95 per game. He also put up 11 triple-doubles in that span and had 3 more games where he was 1 or 2 assists or rebounds (but not both) away from doing so. Then he put up 34/11/9 a couple games later, 34/14/11 a couple games after that.
cmason619 6 months ago
@Flipper79able Doug Collins (the 1989 Chicago Bulls coach), thought that the Bulls had a better chance of winning with Jordan distributed the ball. Hence why he's played point god for 11 games!!!
BigdogH201 6 months ago
name of the first song plzz!!!!!!!
kevinmora77 1 year ago
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kevinmora77 1 year ago
haha @3:26 the ref is also a good passer too
FanOfTheDoraemons 1 year ago 9
wth how does MJ leap, holding the ball in one hand facing forward, then moved it to a lay-up? G.O.A.T
FanOfTheDoraemons 1 year ago
@FanOfTheDoraemons He had abnormally large hands, which was one of the physical gifts he was born with; making the game come that more easier to him.
cyber6sapien 7 months ago
that was the season Kareem qualified for AARP, I don't think you're supposed to play the extasy of gold over a lakers loss that's just mean
farneyblakeley 1 year ago
its like jordan sayin i can pass to if i want to i choose to kill my enemy i'm way better than MAGIC JOHNSON
josette5 1 year ago
..these were the young bulls on the cusp of greatness,making their claim & serving notice to rest of the league.
Supremebirth 1 year ago
amzing vid good job man!
Mastafiq 1 year ago
dude sick post, dig the music and the final shot of the scoreboard as the lakers are walking off court.
blindswampblues 1 year ago
@hangtime23ful I dont really compare anybody to Jordan I dont think anybody comes even close.
Roachross2 1 year ago
Whats the song at 5min mark?
Roachross2 1 year ago
starks23, yo that is crazy. That's directly from a 5 6 PG who can dunk with EASE. I used the nba training program at "50inch vertical (dot) com" and gained more than 12 ins on my dunk.
samuellog28 1 year ago
@jackparks5283 Get out of here
MrBobHandler 1 year ago
starks23, I play basketball every other day. I'm simply 5'9 and I can dunk! I simply took the workout at | 50 inch vertical [dot] com | - anyone can do it
alanwade0386 1 year ago
C'mon Goofalus,
No one even comes close to MJ. Having said that, ain't Scottie Pippin a thing o' beauty?
Jesus, what a thoroughbred!
yjuana 1 year ago
#VIDEOPOSTERID# I'm 5 7 and dunk easily - I'm awesome haha. Want to know how I did it? have a look at | 50 inch vertical [dot] com |
Bulls @ Lakers - March 1989. PG Jordan 16 assists
edwingray3521 1 year ago
shit, outrageous moves. starks23 I really like the end =) Could you believe that I trained enough to start dunking! I just used the a real training routine at (50 inch vertical [dot] com) and made it in just 2 months!
Bulls @ Lakers - March 1989. PG Jordan 16 assists
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starks23, This is why I love basketball, along with all the ankle breakers. If you can't dunk yet, you GOTTA start practicing. I definitely recommend you to try the one I'm using - 50 inch vertical (dot) com - I m 5 7 and I can dunk!
Bulls @ Lakers - March 1989. PG Jordan 16 assists
miltongarrett22 1 year ago
starks23 You play basketball? you gotta check out - 50 inch vertical (dot) com - It's a specialized training workout that will def make you begin dunking and you don t even need to go to the gym if you don t want to!
Bulls @ Lakers - March 1989. PG Jordan 16 assists
louisreid4159 1 year ago
starks23, yo that is beast. That's spurting from someone who s the shortest on his team but do windmill dunks. I followed the dunk training program over at | 50 inch vertical [dot] com | and increased more than 12 ins on my jump.
Bulls @ Lakers - March 1989. PG Jordan 16 assists
codyduncan24 1 year ago
He probably said to himself before the game "I'll have more assists than Magic.. I'll have more assists than Magic.. " again and again..
u2beMac 1 year ago
starks23 dude, I improved over 12 ins on my leap by completing the workout over at | 50 inch vertical [dot] com |. now being outrebounded is nothing I have to be anxious about in basketball finally, lol
Bulls @ Lakers - March 1989. PG Jordan 16 assists
stanleycampbell111 1 year ago
Love the Cheezy music. Sounds like a Michael Bay movie...
JoCrane14 2 years ago
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themanwho1984 2 years ago
man i miss the days were the defence was being played man on man where you would see the the best players guard each other and we would see the best of both players.when i watch kobe or lebron or nello paly against each and never see them play defence against each other.just said
johnnybannas1990 2 years ago
I really hope another athlete comes along like Mike so I can actually be interested again and want to cheer for. Today's product just isn't doing it. Hopefully another Jordan or Tyson comes along. Someone to keep me glued to the TV like the good ole days. The new shit is a bore in general. I find the UFC to be the only semi interesting event that I actually root for certain fighters. Still rather the Bulls runs. Now that was electric!
westy44cal 2 years ago 8
@westy44cal YOOO SAY WORD. JORDAn AND TYSON HELD SHIT DOWN CUZ U KNEW YOu WERE SEEING AMAZING HAPPEN. SPORTS ARENT THE SAME.. GRETZKY LAWRENCE TAYLOR ALL GOATS... Jordan I think was amazing cuz he was an Aquarius it was like he was from the future and all ready knew WTF was gonna happen or rather controlled what was going to happen. The master of time lives in a "time" where "time" has no place. Air Jordan AkA Infinite Air
Roachross2 1 year ago
@Roachross2
Jordan was an Aries. Aries are the most competetive people ever. And for anyone who doesnt believe in Astrology go fucking look up Aries. And see if thats not the definition of this man.
GoingOn9Lives 1 year ago
@GoingOn9Lives Jordan was born February 18... That's Aquarius.
Roachross2 1 year ago
@Roachross2
Uhmmm first off dont message me again jackass. Second, the constellations changes have shifted over the last few thousand years and the actual cut off date for the changing of the zodiac is around the 21st. Now if you knew the zodiac you would know there are things called Cusps. Its when your a few days before and after that cut off date. I was born on the 18th of May Im a taurus but I have a shit ton of Gemini traits cause of how close I am. Like I said. Read Aries
GoingOn9Lives 1 year ago
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Roachross2 1 year ago
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Roachross2 1 year ago
@GoingOn9Lives You stupid phuck... Answer me this what sign is February 18??? AQUARIUS. LoL @ you bullheaded Taurus Lame.
Roachross2 1 year ago
@Roachross2 And some astrologers do consider the 18 of February as being born on the cusp.... BUT on the cusp of Pisces. You make no sense.
Roachross2 1 year ago
@Roachross2
Oh you are right. Thats my bad player. I was thinking of April. Shares alot of Aries traits however. I wouldnt be surprised if other planets affected his bday
GoingOn9Lives 1 year ago
@GoingOn9Lives Yea you wouldnt be suprised cuz other planets affect everyones birthday... His moon is Saggitarius and his rising sign is Taurus.
Roachross2 1 year ago
@Roachross2
Ok. Apparently you're the astrologist. Reading from a website? theres more to it then the moon and his rising sign.
GoingOn9Lives 1 year ago
@GoingOn9Lives Shhhh
Roachross2 1 year ago
@westy44cal Don't worry im coming. hahahah
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michaelaclaycomb83 2 years ago
Kobe's style is so similar to Jordan's..even the gestures..
BarcelonaSpain100 2 years ago
yah cuz kobe a copy cat swagger jacker dats why its similar style..
100dollarccswinner 2 years ago
1:30 mins!!!!!!
MacTobey 2 years ago
Jordan owned the court. Such a thrill to watch. This brought back memories.
CAlex6977 2 years ago
once the bulls got scottie and horace grant, in 88 and 89 the bulls went 3-1 against the showtime lakers. that plus the 1991 nba finals shows the dynasty bulls could beat magic and worthy's lakers even with kareem, cause the 88 89 bulls werent nearly as good as the 90s bulls(cause scottie and horace hadnt hit their primes yet), but they still went 3-1 vs showtime
Rodzilla97 2 years ago
Uhh..the bulls got pippen & grant in '87, not '88 & '89..
blackadam06 2 years ago 2
By the way im on something called reality. You should join me sometime.
GoingOn9Lives 2 years ago
actually 302 your probably some Magic fan who just seen a bunch of fancy passes from magic thinking thats every pass he did. MJ in half a season playing PG had almost as many triple doubles as magics best season. Dont believe me look it up. Im sorry but MJ was just as quick as Magic on the passes and his court vision was just as good. I could argue that MJ was faster and attracted the double teams to free his teammates but once again your another laker fan who denies logic.
GoingOn9Lives 2 years ago 2
@GoingOn9Lives how did this post get 11 thumbs up? ?
radiolaugh 1 year ago
@radiolaugh
truth usually gets attention.
GoingOn9Lives 1 year ago
@radiolaugh yes but this aint truth....we both know thats not why u got the thumbs up....most people dont think mj was as good a paseer as the other mj....which i guess is what ur implying or something ...
radiolaugh 1 year ago
1:30 = MJ couldn't pass? lol
3:28 = greatest referee pass of all-time
jordan wasn't the greatest of passers & not better than magic, but he knew WHEN to pass which was an important skill in itself
blacknapalm 2 years ago
Now that we have the kobe fairies under control we can discuss real basketball. People always undermine Jordans abilities. I think he could have been equal if not greater compared to Magics passing ability if he continued to play the PG. I also think the bulls could run the fast break just as well as the lakers could
GoingOn9Lives 2 years ago 2
GoingOn9Lives, Are you on something? You refer to passing as if it were a static action like walking or blinking. It's far more dynamic, for all the apg Michael might have had as a PG it still is not anywhere near the level of intelligent passing and ball movement that Magic possessed. I've read your inane comments before and you are obviously one of those Jordan=God types. Jordan was great at lots of things, passing was not one of them. Let it go...
302MarkVII 2 years ago
I will say this again for you kareemali and the rest of the 12 year olds. They put in zone to increase scoring because players are not talented enough to drive to the basket or create open shots one on one anymore. You idiot. 80's/90's players played zone in college. An old 40 year old Mj played in 2003 against zone and averaged just about the same as kobe. Damn your stupid. I feel like Im taking crazy pills.
GoingOn9Lives 2 years ago
The flow of the game in this era was awesome to watch. When Magic came back in 96, although being a step slower, he embarrassed the new breed night in and night out. There is no doubt in my mind that the mid 80s to early 90s is the most talented era in basketball.
mjajow 2 years ago
numbers dont lie n that was the best squad bulls had 32.8 mj to magics 22.6 n jordan held that ppg for yrs
gm0neyd0llaz 2 years ago
You can't compare Jordan's ppg to Magic's because Magic was a PG.
LakersDynasty42 2 years ago 2
@LakersDynasty42 And you cant compare Magic to Jordan because Jordan is Jordan.
Roachross2 1 year ago
It's amazing that during this phase of MJ career people where saying he was just a one man show and could not improve his teammates. Hard to believe people could say that when he was punting on performances like this. I guess it shows that no matter how good you are some people just won't to bring you down.
huskerfan50 2 years ago
it also works the other way around.. when you aren't as good (Lakers 24) and they put you up there with the GOAT and the number don't lie.
jaa0702 2 years ago
Magic Was great but Jordan was just the better all round player he deserved the MVP award in 89 not magic. Magic just played on the better team. In my opinion MJ should have one every regular season MVP award from 87 to 98 not counting the 95 MVP because he didn't play all of the season and 94 because he was retired.
huskerfan50 2 years ago
If that's true, they should've given it to Jordan in 99 as well, just for the hell of it.
nonplayerzealot4 2 years ago
2 of the greatest perimeter players of all time
oneman91 2 years ago
Jordan = greatest ever
brendandugan 2 years ago
look at 3: 27..cool pass ref...lol
kikodong1981 2 years ago
KAREEMALI = IGNORANT PUNK ASS BITCH
muonline5566 2 years ago
Exactly..
That idiot doesn't know what the hell he's talkin' about LOL!!
How the hell can these pseudo zones be tougher & harder to score against, when the Top 10 Scorers in the NBA had a 23% increase in PPG avg, 1 year "AFTER" they changed the Defensive Rules?
LOL!!
The NBA "ADMITTED" to changing the def rules in order to INCREASE scoring & SPEED UP the game, so how can these new rules be "tougher" to score against?!!
What kinda sense does that make?!!
RealFan357 2 years ago
kobe plays in a far more competitive era than the wide open 80s give me a break
kareemali 3 years ago
LOL U FUCKING NOOB
muonline5566 2 years ago
c'mon....wide open 80's? whats that supposed to mean? the 80's had the sickest defense dude...guys of the 2000's era may be more athletic, bigger and stronger whatsoever but they are not as good as the 80's as far as defense is concerned...review your knowledge about the word competitive man....take a good look of redrums comment, now thats the way you should do your analysis...support it with something substantial...
kikodong1981 2 years ago
John Holliger a writer for espn said in a recent article that the pace played today is the slowest in leuge history. He said that if the current suns played in the 80s r 90s they would not have been a run and gun team by 80s standards. Simple basket ball when a team plays up tempo there are more oppurtunities to score and pad stats and less to defend. .
kareemali 2 years ago
Hollinger also said that this bulls team under collins would be like a fast paced team today. You can look at this era and tell when someone took a jumpshot the defender was no where to be found. They rarley ever fought for post position. IKnow its important for u guys to hold on to this time because u have an emotional attachment to it but admit that basket ball has progressesed worldwide.
kareemali 2 years ago
Look at how much trouble the redeem team had. The players today are more advandced. That doesnot mean that the players from this era would still not be great but it would be more competetive now
kareemali 2 years ago
I've also read that article by Hollinger, and another reader made a good point that Hollinger ignores mentioning some changes in the rules, particularly ones making life much easier for guards. I don't think you actually watched basketball in the 80s and 90s, since you're getting all your info from ESPN mags. It was some physical shit man, and i'm 25, i'm not some old-timer, but i remember it. the guys are strong but whiny premadonnas today
pheeeel17 2 years ago
i never said it wasnt physical, but physical doesnt mean it was more competetive, thats all im saying,u can play one on one ball alot easier back then, U also could dribble without worrying about that 5 second rule they put in. It was easier for a superstar to isolate one side of the loor and go to work.u cant do that now because they will box and 1 and stack the zone
kareemali 2 years ago
If that era was inferior, then why did a 38-year-old Jordan come back and average 23, 5 and 5 and drop 50 a couple times?
EGarrett01 2 years ago
dude you saw what happened to kobe against detroit and boston that plays physical d. the 80's d of houston,Boston,Detroit, then the 90's knicks heatand suns is superior than of Detroit and Boston because of the rules back then.
misayde 2 years ago
i think the players are bigger stronger and faster and i know for a fact that that box and 1 zone d efensense is superior to that iso man to man they played in that era. its just the simple evolution of basketball
kareemali 2 years ago
U kids crack me up with your nonsensical claims of players being bigger & stronger & what not today LOL!!
Why don't y'all actually go learn the history of the game B4 U post that ignorant nonsense!
2003-now are CURRENTLY the SMALLEST yrs on file since the 70's!
Year-----Avg hgt----Avg wgt
1986-87--6-9.72-----217.46
1996-97--6-6.20-----223.67
2007-08--6-5.48-----210.00
And zones are USELESS vs good passing/shooting teams! That's WHY they're RARELY used..
Go learn the game!!
RealFan357 2 years ago
for one im 30 yrs old, for 2 they play matchup zones every game , watch the game and maybe ull learn something .I came up in that era.If u watched u would see that they still handcheck today.U jordan jesus worshipers disgust me. He is the only reason u guys try to say that that era was tougher when its so much deeper now
kareemali 2 years ago
If you're REALLY 30 as U claim, then you'd KNOW that zones are ineffective vs teams that can shoot & pass, thus the reason they're RARELY played!
vault . sportsillustrated . cnn . com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1147219/index . htm <--remove the spaces
This article details "WHY" these so called zones are ineffective & are "RARELY" used today in the NBA LOL!!
Now go educate yourself son & stop posing as an adult. That article doesn't say anything us REAL FANS didn't already know..
RealFan357 2 years ago 2
"I came up in that era"
Riiiiiiight..sure U did..
"they still handcheck today"
Yeah, beneath the dotted line "After" the offensive player has been ALLOWED to penetrate! By then, it's TOO LATE!! They're in the paint!
What good does it do defenses if the rules "only" allow for handchecking BELOW the dotted line? LOL!!
RealFan357 2 years ago 2
Sorry to burst your ignorant & uniformed opinion, but this is a 4 team league (era) now..
Subtract the All Star calibur players & the 5-10 honorable mentions, the league now is "mediocre" with a bunch of 1 dimensional, fundamentally unsound & limited role players compared to the NBA of the past.
This is WHY they changed the rules!
U had more great players outside of the stars in the 80's & 90's, which allowed for more player diverstiy & better team play.
This is no Golden Era..
RealFan357 2 years ago 13
It's not harder to score in this era and if you know how to attack a zone defense you can get your points. "U jordan jesus worshipers disgust me.". I don't think anyone has equated Jordan with being jesus and the ones that do just go too far. There's someone on YouTube named "Kobe24OwnsJordan" and they call Kobe "God". It's pretty funny that you're saying this stuff about Jordan fans when you're subscribed to PAH who covers up for Kobe all the time.
LakersDynasty42 2 years ago
some kobe fans go too far too ,but the jordan fans act like he was beyond reproach. But i do have to say it was easier to playone on one ball back then, u could iso real easy. The zone will force u to take low percentage shots if u try to go at it 1 on 1. But im done arguing wit people they just want to build a case for jordan by tearing down the new generation. They sound like my grandfather praising the 60 and 70s and how it was more physical back then
kareemali 2 years ago
Jordan is by no means untouchable (I personally don't think that he is the undisputed best ever) but Kobe doesn't compare to him at all. Kobe wasn't playing against a zone and teams rarely play that way.
LakersDynasty42 2 years ago
thats the thing they play a man to man matchup zone nowadays because there is no illegal defense a player can just lag in an open area where as in the previous era u had more space to operate. So u can just stack players on one side of the floor. It just makes it harder to go one on one every time down but wit passing and shootin it can be beaten but that 10 sec dribble iso stuff in the 90s is gone
kareemali 2 years ago
Teams rarely play matchup zone.
LakersDynasty42 2 years ago
thats all they plat there is no illegal d, if there were kobe and lebron would be unguardable. thats why i c ant compare eras
kareemali 2 years ago
They're still great players though.
LakersDynasty42 2 years ago
The committee instituted a 3-second rule for defenders in order to [prevent] teams from [parking taller players] in the post. The goal was to [free] the lanes & [encourage] cuts & drives through the paint. With those changes, among other factors, offenses have [opened up] & scoring has [climbed]."
-- Feb 29, 2009; NY Times
RealFan357 2 years ago
"Our rules are [designed] to [allow] players to [penetrate] for [high percentage] shots. This has [allowed] for more high quality [perimeter] shots as well, because of how much [easier] it is to penetrate today."
-- Stu Jackson; NBA Executive Vice President, Basketball Operations
So goes your bogus & nonsensical claims about today's defensive rules being tougher, thus making it a more competitive league today..
RealFan357 2 years ago 2
Desides, all a zone does is allow a team to double U off the ball.
The 3-sec, no handcheck & illegal defense, i.e. the NBA's new "offensive oriented" interpretations of these rules, ALL "negate" the productivity of the zone & ties the hands of the defenders.
It's easier to score on these so called "zones" than tough, aggessive & physical man to man where U can body & handcheck the offensive player, thus not allowing him to get off clean shots..
Besides, these aren't even REAL zones.
RealFan357 2 years ago
Pippen was not anywhere near the "greatest all-around playmaker in the NBA" for even one year, much less 4-5 years. Best playmaking SF from '92 (Bird's last year; he was injured) until about '96 (when Grant Hill emerged), yes, probably.
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The Forum scoreboard was equipped for tenths of a second way before the NBA went to tenths in 1990.
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3:27 assist of the year by the ref :)
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flylike1 3 years ago
too bad for lakers the skyhook didn't go in..
SergioRenatoReyes 3 years ago
3:21 beautiful shot
Blackwwoolff 3 years ago
No, U couldn't see that. Magic had 10,141 career assists. I somehow doubt Jordan could've pulled that off. Lol at you MJboyz...
nonplayerzealot4 3 years ago
Why noy? He only played PG for a small portion of that season and ended up in 8th place in assists for the season. Even still he played a position nearly his entire year that is not known for assists, shooting guard, and still ended up with over 5600 assists. So realistically speaking, if he had been playing PG his whole career he just might have.
jeditwinz 3 years ago 3
Except Magic had about 12 triple doubles every year.
nonplayerzealot4 3 years ago
Jordan put up 10 triple doubles in 11 games and that was with a groin injury late in the season lol anything is possible with Jordan. He was a scorer and an unbelievable defender that was his game and he stuck to it but he was capable of doing anything and he showed it numerous times
JCR1992 3 years ago 2
If he could have, he would have. Eleven game sample set notwithstanding.
nonplayerzealot4 3 years ago
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10833869 3 years ago
How can anyone dispute the obvious greatness of Jordan?
RohoicRamz94 3 years ago
excellent video, the music goes great with it
Rodzilla97 3 years ago
Sloppy way out. Should've been edited w/ the actual game commentary and with a flow to the action instead of all Bulls highlights.
nonplayerzealot4 3 years ago
The commentary isn't in english. That's why the music is used.
jp3813 3 years ago
gotta feel bad for L.A even though they won 5 championships that was Kareem's last season
ltachi526 3 years ago
Good game, hate the music!
Themba88 3 years ago
Jordan would have been a great point guard if they had kept him there.
norsemustang 3 years ago
Reading the article on the right, it makes you wonder why he didn't stay at PG. I don't know whether he would have been as good a PG in the triangle, but he was definitely a better passer than either John Paxson or Ron Harper, who played PG during the championship years. He averaged 8 assists a game that year and didn't move to PG until towards the end of the season. If he had played PG the entire year, he might have averaged a double double the entire season.
norsemustang 3 years ago
MJ wanted to differentiate himself from Bird and Magic. Playing PG for the remainder of his career would've ruined that distinction. Ironic that MJ also played Bird's position (SF) for the Wizards.
jp3813 3 years ago
MJ played PG because the Bulls needed a playmaker.
LakersDynasty42 3 years ago
Well, yeah.
jp3813 3 years ago
wtf u make it look like bulls are better
iluvsuushi 3 years ago
Jordan took a bunch of nobodys and made them champions. Phil was there to coach him along the way. But without Jordan that bulls team was barely above a 500 team.
JayT98 3 years ago
What? Are you calling Scottie Pippen a nobody? Let me tell you something, Jordan is the greatest ever but without Pippen, Jordan doesn't win one title... Just ask Mike, he said it himself...
conni70 3 years ago
Duhhh!! Why do U y'all say that as if that's some "Unknown" factor? Of Course NODBODY wins Titles by themselves!
And Pippen didn't even START his 1st 3 yrs & was the 7th best player on the Bulls during that time.
So U mean to tell me during that time, when MJ was taking that God Awful team he inherited as a Rookie to the Playoffs, somewhere they hadn't seen since '81, & while he was taking them to 50 Wins in '88 & pushing them 1 step closer EVERY year, this was because of Pippen?
LOL!
blackadam06 3 years ago
The fact that you would attempt to down-play Pippen's greatness reveals your low basketball IQ... You need superstars to win NBA titles... Not 1 superstar but at least 2, ideally 3... There's a lot of components that go in to winning titles... And for the Jordan-Bulls it started with Jordan, but Jordan was very fortunate to have had Pippen as a teammate, Jackson as a coach and Krauss as a GM... Apart from Jerry West, Krauss was the best GM of his era... Krauss built that team...
conni70 3 years ago
My low IQ?
I never said MJ "DIDN'T" need a good complimentary player. Apparently, U don't read too well & you're trying to question my IQ? LOL!! Whatever man..I suggest U re-read my previous comment.
Like I said, he didn't even start his 1st 3 yrs & didn't show any of the CONSISTENT flashes of the player he later became, until late '90!
blackadam06 3 years ago
We're talkin' about the SAME guy who at that time, ONLY averaged 8 pts in the Reg Season & 10 pts in the Playoffs & had VERY LITTLE to do with the teams success during those formative years.
So please, stop trying to act as if he came in from DAY 1, being the "That Guy" & defensive juggernaut he LATER became. Please!!
Yes he's one of the GREATEST SF that ever played..hell he REVOLUTIONIZED the position, but he was not "THE" perfect complimentary player from the onset like you're claiming..
blackadam06 3 years ago 2
I agree,and MJ molded Pippen into that player.
trowabarton321 2 years ago
Now you're calling Pippen a "good complimentary player"? You're confusing Pippen for Horace Grant... "Good complimentary players" don't get voted one of the 50 greatest players in NBA history..."Good complimentary players" don't hold the all time record in both assists and steals for a forward... He also holds the all time record for steals in the playoffs.. You also stated that he didn't start his "1st 3 years"? Wrong!!! He became a starter his rookie season during the 88 playoffs...
conni70 3 years ago
Sorry, you're confusing him with Brad Sellers..
The "STARTING" lineup for the 1987-88 Reg Season & Playoffs was MJ, C. Oakley, D. Corzine, S. Vincent & B. Sellers..
I suggest U do ya homework & stop embarrassing yourself. I'm old enough to remember those formative yrs for the Bulls. Besides, I have those games on VHS & DVD..
Try again..
blackadam06 3 years ago
Yes Pippen was voted 1 of the Greatest Players ever..rightfully so, given what he did in REVOLUTIONIZING the SF position, but lets be honest, his "Primary" role on the Bulls was that of a COMPLIMENTARY fashion.
I'm not questioning his place amongst the pantheon of the ALL TIME greats in terms of what he became, I'm merely stating that he, during the "Formative" years of the Bulls, WAS NOT the player you're claiming he was. He had "VERY LITTLE" to do with the teams success in those years..
blackadam06 3 years ago 2
"He had "VERY LITTLE" to do with the teams success in those years"?!?! blackadam, are you smoking fuckin crack?!?! If so, put down the pipe, please... Let me put it in simple terms for you... WITHOUT SCOTTIE PIPPEN, MICHAEL JORDAN DOESN'T WIN A SINGLE TITLE... Your attempts to down play Pippen's greatness is futile... I suggest you go to wikipedia and do a little research on Scottie Pippen... Complimentary player?!?! You're on crack...
conni70 3 years ago
Apparently U don't READ to well do U? I said in the "FORMATIVE YEARS"..U know, PRE-Title Years Idiot!!
"WITHOUT SCOTTIE PIPPEN, MICHAEL JORDAN DOESN'T WIN A SINGLE TITLE"
Duhh!! I never said he did!
"Your attempts to down play Pippen's greatness is futile"
I NEVER TRIED TO! Do U not READ?!?! Again, FORMATIVE YEARS!
And ANYONE stupid enough to use Wikipedia as reference, shouldn't charge ANYONE, with being on crack! U do realize people can edit/change the info on there right?
blackadam06 3 years ago
No shit! He obviously was a better player by the time they won their first title, his 4th year in the league. But remember, in his first 2 years they took Detroit to 6 games in the semi's. And by his 3rd year the Bulls took the Pistons to 7 games in the Eastern Conference finals. So your quote in which you stated "He had "VERY LITTLE" to do with the teams success in those years", is completely inaccurate. Pippen had an immediate impact on the Bulls success albiet a larger one by his 4th year...
conni70 3 years ago
straight up
stromonie 3 years ago
did you forget? son of a bitch, that jordan won mvp and dopy....that year along with the scoring and steals title little bastard. pippen had very little to do with that,being those are individual awards, that because of jordan's dominance in the league,got the bulls to 50 wins in 88 whore.
zopoundsakpase 3 years ago 3
btw,don't try to downplay the importance of getting a new coach in doug collins bitch,he was a big part of the bulls turn around during the late 80s, just from the stand point that he brought a new way of playing for the bulls team...and a new defensive philosophy as well. doug collin was jordan's first real head coach bitch before that he had noone you lose
zopoundsakpase 3 years ago 2
Damn, you're one angry crack baby... What happened, not enough love from mommy and daddy? If you read my comments with any sort of impartiality and objectivity, my point would have been interpreted with clarity... But noooo... You're so hell-bent worshiping MJ, that others opinions are taken personnel... Go read a book...
conni70 3 years ago
in other words i've destoryed you,now get the fuck off jordan videos bitch...pippen was a sidekick just like kobe. the only difference is pippen has 6 ships and kobe has none you lose
zopoundsakpase 3 years ago 2
Again, put down the crack pipe and come back to reality... Michael Jordan, yes MJ, the guy you fuckin worship said it himself, without Pippen he wouldn't have won rings... And yes, we all know Jordan's the greatest ever... No one is disputing that... So relax... But to win titles you need superstars (plural)... Not one, but at least two, ideally three... And for the the Bulls it was Jordan and Pippen, the greatest combo in history...
conni70 3 years ago
It's also absurd how you've referred to the man on multiple occasions as a "complimentary player"... Yes, it was Michael's team but he had a superstar sidekick in Pippen... Just as the showtime Lakers were Magic's team, but are you going to tell me that Worthy and Kareem were "good complimentary players"? Again, you need superstars (plural) to win championships... Jordan was the greatest ever but he was fortunate to play alongside a top five player of his generation...
conni70 3 years ago
hey moron, aka conni70,pippen came into the league averaging seven points a game on 46 percent shooting stupid motherfucker....not to mention he didn't start scoring 20 points per game until his fourth year in the league.
zopoundsakpase 3 years ago 4
It's not all about points moron. Pippen was the greatest all around playmaker in the NBA for 4 to 5 years. So what if he averaged 7.9 ppg in his first year you dummie.
scoresby33 3 years ago
During Pippen's rookie year Sellers began the 87-88 season in the starting line up... However, by the playoffs Jordan and some of his teammates were begging Collins and the Bulls coaching staff to start Pippen over Sellers... Jordan couldn't stand Sellers and his soft play... Pippen took Sellers' starting role against the Pistons in the conference semi's... Try and research that yourself... But you're wrong either way because you said Pippen didn't start his first 3 years... Wrong, wrong, wrong!
conni70 3 years ago
Did Jabber retired in 1989?
jimmychuang 3 years ago
KAREEM! NOOO!!!
FatRiceBoi 3 years ago
Well....Michael Jordan was more than a man but less than a god...He is like Hercules and damn he makes a pretty awesome game....But then, he's getting weaker since he's getting old....His talent slowly diminish as he's aging...Kobe's the new dominant player this year but not as great as MJ not even half...But he's still unstoppable and I get the feeling that he's getting improve...
midiland20 3 years ago
the "political" nature of MVP only works as a testament to jordan's level; he should have won at least half of the years he didn't win, and kobe's this year was charity
thettruest 3 years ago
Even if that's true, how does that translate to the idea that MJ was twice the player that Kobe is RIGHT NOW?
johnnycage2010 3 years ago
That was in regards to your "political MVP" post.
johnnycage2010 3 years ago
i'm just adding it in as another legitimate/important thing in a Looooong list of other achievements
thettruest 3 years ago
nearly every single player
thettruest 3 years ago
wow, you're an idiot. that's nowhere near true.
johnnycage2010 3 years ago
what fanboy? kobe is barely as good as worthy if that. fuck outa here
thettruest 3 years ago
i'm not a kobe fan at all, but to say that nearly everyone on the lakers squad was 3x better than kobe is is the most preposterous thing I've ever heard. you sound stupid as shyt.
johnnycage2010 3 years ago
in fact, there's no player in the history of basketball that's even twice the player Kobe is. You don't even know how much I despise Kobe, but as a basketball fan, I'm insulted by what you just said. Totally inaccurate.
johnnycage2010 3 years ago
uhh.. Right. Lol.
thettruest 3 years ago