that hare would outrun any dog you ever owned so badly he would give up and loose sight in less than 15 secs, you probably never even seen a dog that could catch a jackrabbit
not very fair run, 3 or 2 vs 1, that makes i need to call u MORONS and sad fuckers or just those dogs are so shit u need to set few of them on one hare, pathetic
that is a wild hare.... see at the start it goes from a squat (a small scrape where the hare hides from predetors) you walk the coursing dog too it and wait untill it gets up then slip the dog its a brilliant sport as most of the time the hare will evade capture unless it has a brilliant dog on it like the dark destroyer or delightfull cruise (saluki)
nice dogs dont really see the point of letting them chase a rabbit thats already been caught since its so easy to just walk around a field and find wild ones but whatever
btw i have never seen such stupidy, who runs three dogs at once? they could easily be injured and if anything are making the task harder for each other, solo coursing is much fairer on hare and dog.
i'm getting a pair of whippetts very soon. are they capable of catching rabbits and squirrels? because where i live we have a big problem with over-population of rabbits and grey squirrels and i would like to contibute to solving that problem. thanks
if you wanted to get a dog which would catch rabbits and squirrels then you've probably found the best dog for the job. I see whippets catch squirrels and stuff near my houde all the time.
get whippet crosses, whippetXbedlington perhaps, ideal rabbit dog, much more useful than a human companion, also a whippet cross has a stronger jaw, better nose and stamina than a purebred whippet, but if you have already got the dogs, then yes they will happily hunt rabbit rat squirrel and mouse, and fox if your not careful, but they are lacking in jaw power and if they decide to tangle with a fox and you dont get there fast enuf they can be injured, make sure they r wel trained b4 working them
so you wouldnt allow your dog to do what he has been bred to do? why do you think he has a huge prey drive? a long neck? and speed enough to catch a hare? what do you think he would like to do? not what you want hi to do, what would he like to do?
I agree that they are breed as hunters but most dogs that live in our homes are breed to do all kind of things that isnt even applyable today. My dog is perfectly happy with huntin balls and playing with his lurching friends. Good exercise and no one gets killed.
no most dogs are bred for certain things that are still applicable to modern life, every dog has a use and a purpose, and every dog is happiest doing what they have been bred for, city people live so detached from country life they just dont understand anymore, its sad. only one in ten hares are caught at a hare coursing meet, nine out of ten hares shot at are killed, and hare coursing was a reason to keep hares on your land, theres no reason to have them now, and plenty of reasons not to.
I kept many types of dogs, but greyhounds and a lurcher I have now. They are one of the oldest known dogs, pics of Greys and salukis (very simular to Greys have been found in Egyption tombs. I think these dogs have more intinct to do what their bred for than most other dogs......I bet your greyhound runs in his sleep (legs even move) dreaming what they love to do. One of mine runs in her sleep and even snap at her prey LOL
Look I'm not that disturbed by your comment, however if we still used dogs for what they are bred for it means you support dog fighting, bear and bull baiting i assume as well?
dog fighting i do not condone, becuase people are profiting from the harming of a creature which is engaging in a bloody contest, which is a manifestation of the dogs protective and misplaced pack loyalty, i cannot enjoy the concept nor what i have seen of it, the dog gives its all for its owner, and the owner repays it either by killing it or fixing it up for another fight to the near death. but this doesnt mean the the breed of dog can be discredited, pitbulls english bull terriers---
---and staffies all have alot to offer the lurcher gene pool for instance, bull greyhounds being one of the most popular lurcher crosses, they are rarely aggressive towards other dogs, but the fighting dog in them gives them stamina beyond belief, also pre ban people used longer legged staffies to hunt foxes, a lurcher and a staffy can catch and kill a fox before you even notice it slinking away into the bushes.(i am a stong believer in humane killing of an animal, and hate prolonged suffering.
The only thing i agree with is your last sentence, seriously thou you can't take moral high-ground on this one, your condoning a bloodsport at the end of the day, its just over quicker than dog fighting. As articulate as you like to sound, your totally contradictory. You hate prolonged suffering, yet seem to think being torn apart by dogs is over in the blink of an eye, particularly for larger animals, such as a foxes. Call a spade a spade, your still using one animal to kill another.
where is the prolonged suffering in a hare course? Its over within a minute generally, your dog is providing you with a show of athleticism that cannot be equalled. and you get a meal out of it. whats wrong with apreciating natures finest pitting there wits against one another? unless you have taken part you can never understand.
and as for the hare being torn apart, coursing dogs will generally retrieve live to hand, or kill the hare with a crushing bite to the head, since you havent taken part, you wouldnt know this and can be forgiven for your ignorance on the subject.
The only ignorance is your own clearly from your last half dozen posts. Don't pretend that every hare you send your dogs after meets its end in record time. What about younger dogs that you train? oh I suppose they get it right first go and then 100% of the time there-after. Whats wrong with a track?, the fastest dogs go there, not mutilating rabbits and hares in some paddock! You like watching them be killed, your dogs will chase a pully or ball for that matter all the same!
and have you got any experience in training coursing dogs? alot of people start coursing dogs on rabbits, and some give them their first run on a previosly run hare, its either caught or not, which is alot fairer than shooting, where the quarry can be injured, it has a massive chance of getting away, although not so in this video, hare isnt given much of a chance, but most hare coursing allows the hare an eighty to a hundred yard head start. hare coursing is the savior of the brown hare-
or course the dog doesnt get it right 100 percent of the time, wouldnt be much of a sport if there was no chance of the hare getting away, but it isnt ever injured, all it has to do is run, which it does remarkably well, it is arguably the best coursing quarry, and is well respected, the hare undergoes a hard life and coursing is the most efficient selection process, ensuring that only the quickest breed. i have never heard of hares suffering slow deaths from dogs, if they are caught the dog--
-either kills it or brings it back unharmed, the majority of coursing dogs being hard mouthed, which is where he/she kills the hare, dogs dont play with their food, they arent cats, they get the job done and anyone who works dogs to quarry can atest to this. the hare has a sporting chance of getting away, at the waterloo cup where at least eighty yards is given the hare has a 9 out of 10 chance of getting away.
fuck me your stupid, i dont half love hearing the trash that anti hunt fools spew from there mouths, a lack of understanding is a perfect reason for you to look into something before you post opinionated remarks on a public forum, all you do is make a fool of yourself, anyone who understands the countryside and countrysports will agree with me, as will any thinking person. im am getting sick of this, if you want to continue this argument message me. and i will send you some info. ok.
surely if it was a bloodsport there would have to be blood, not very common in harecoursing, you are an unresponsible dog owner. also a racing dog doesnt have to use its head, it just has to run, thats why faster dogs are track dogs, and smarter dogs are coursing dogs, im sure you delight in having a moron for a dog, but i would like mine to have to exercise its mind as much as its body.
Your argument is futile, you are taking enjoyment in the terror then death of another animal, a god damn bunny no less, you brave warrior. You can justify it all you like, and carry on about the psychology of your rodent like canines all you want, but no amount of technical spin talk will diminish the fact your cruel, a coward and so defensive that it's plain to see that you know im right. Period.
lol, people take pleasure in hunting becuase it is a throwback from hunting to survive, its a satisfaction that is unrivaled, you cannot understand, i assume you are a vegan becuase if not then you should really take a look at your moral priorities, hunted animals suffer less stress than animals killed in an abatoir, proven fact, a hare being chased is natural, thats why its so fast, animals herded into the slaughterhouse where they can sense that they are going to die is unnatural.
@morgasm657 na, vegaqns cant take the moral high ground either, if they new the destruction of brazilian rainforests that goes on every day just to provide some white guy with dreads with milk for his shredded wheats then they'd probably choose an organicly reared wild hare any day, even if it was caught with a dog. Actually the dog is better for the enviroment then the gun in my opinion.
@justin8448 'your argument is futile' lol, who are you, dr evil?
Removing vermin from the fields in which your wheat is grown in an organic non destructive way is a good thing. Unless you grow all of your own food then you don't actually have an argument to put accross. How many rats do you think have been poisoned or killed with terriers so that we can have quality vegetable products? You're a fool.
my greyhound catches rabbits and hares all the time, it is something that she enjoys doing and it is unfair on the dogs not to let them chase rabbits, do you think it should be illegal for a dog living in the wild to catch a rabbit which it needs to live?
But your dog dont need it to surrvive. As Justin say. Wold you let your dog be involved in dogfighting just because hes breed to, if you had a breed like that?
no i would let my dog fight if it was bred to fight because most dogs would naturally not want to fight, they only fight because people have made them fight. nobody has forced greyhounds to kill rabbits, they do it because it is their natural instinct to catch food to eat.
All dogs are genetically predators. To suggest a greyhound kills a rabbit for need of food, could be applied to a dog killing anything. If you allow your dogs to do whatever comes naturally to it is irresponsible dog ownership. Your dog is not living in a "natural" environment, the laws of nature don't apply.
Dogs arent aware that they are not in their traditional environment and most dogs will always be trying to get food because they dont know whether or not they will get fed. And my dog does not just kill all animals like sheep or cats, it only kills rabbits hares squirrels and a few other small animals. I can only stop my dog from catching animals by keeping it on a lead at all times which is unfair to do to a greyhound and would be "unresponsible dog ownership".
Your actually contradicting yourself, of course your dog doesn't recognize its not in a natural environment, hence the reason it's your responsibility. If your aim is to exercise your dog, and not have it kill animals, then put a muzzle on it, simple. You however enjoy allowing it to kill these animals, its not just a simple by product of taking it for a run, and you know im right.
to be totally honest i do enjoy watching my dog chase rabbits, although i do think that making it into a hobby or sport is cruel. i would put a muzzle on my dog but when she is wearing one she spends all her time trying to get it off and not moving. also my dog enjoys chasing rabbits, and when she catches them it makes her very happy, and i like to see my dog happy
right....so if you allowed your dog to kill other animals all the time, thats cruel, but if it's only sometimes it's not. So if she starts enjoying biting children, you'll allow that, because whatever makes her happy, makes you happy? Thing is i'm not all that concerned it chases rabbits, but call it like it is, and that is that you get off on it, there's no higher morality about what your doing because you do it occasionally.
So what if we used a different animal. im a falconer and i use birds of prey to hunt. is that cruel. thats what she lives for. is that cruel. dogs seem less cruel when it comes to animals. the red-tail will start eating wile the rabbits still alive dogs usually dont.
if they attacked you and you feed them they will do it again for more food. but there is no reason to do that other than trying to get yourself hurt. they can do alot of damage if they want.
@justin8448 children are people and hares are food, you really are a weak link in the survival of the human race, do you think that we got to this privileged state where people can sit down at their computer and tell other people that hunting is wrong, by allowing people like you to exist, people like you never would have existed when life was harder, why does living comfortably allow you to tell me what to do? personally i am not rich and enjoy having a free way to get food.
@justin8448 good god, i just found and reread this whole argument, justin, your arguments are sentiment based and as such are weak. the laws of nature dont apply? bullshit, look at our dog breeds and the health of them, working breeds that carry out a specific task (derived from a natural behaviour) are healthier than breeds that have no purpose so working them like this is good for the breed. and since the ban came in a hell of a lot more hares are shot and killed on ex coursing estates.
so hwta do u do with rabbit afterwards, store it? I don't like that being sport, but if u did soming with the rabbit, like eat it, actally use it in some way to survive like fur then I son't mind. :)
btw we could do this by message instead which means that you can give me a detailed history lesson instead of several short comments, and btw, it pays to stick together on this, antis love it when we disagree
00180mille- your right hare coursing is illegal, are you glad that its illegal, well im glad that your helping to lessen the population of brown hares in britain, organised coursing was the savior of the brown hare, and now that its gone, we could easily lose it forever.
Brown hares cannot go 45 mph, nor can a jackrabbit. The brown hare is very agile, but slower than the Jacks we run in the West.
The best pure greyhound coursing dogs live and hunt in the western USA. The fastest GHs from the Australia tracks have peaked at 44 or so. If you want to catch Jacks, you need good speed and lots of air. Courses can go for minutes depending where you are. The video looks like a walk up, similar to what is done here. Decent coursing.
A antelope jackrabbit can't run 45mph??? are you serious dude?? You are one of the few people who course hares and most all wildlife experts would not agree with you on this issue me included......but to each his own viewpoint.
greyhounds were the original coursing dog, lurchers are a more rounded dog, the greyhound lacking in stamina, saluki crosses are commen, greyhounds explosive speed and the salukis stamina, your an idiot, greyhounds are still used all over for coursing, when you add a slower dog, you get a slower dog, numpty.
here man dodo hav u got a dog????? nobody uses greyhounds on the lamp or iilegal coursing u know fuckall saluki crosses are rare nobody wants them they are thick as fuck and do nowt but fuck things up on the lamp, only them daft egyptions want them so they can last in the heat...or n change y name y fuckin dodo morgans a girls name. mr i know evrythin bwt huntin yor funny in a wanker way
and your a wanker in a wanker way, organised coursing was all greyhounds, before the gay ban, also purebred salukis have been used a fair amount, dunno where your at, what crosses do u use? out of curiosity? of course no one uses greyhounds on the lamp, thats just plain stupid, fast dog like that will hurt itself very easy in the dark, but they are used all over for daytime hare coursing, bit slow on the turn for rabbit work.
lol. wot u mean they r a bit slow on the turn for a rabbit? rabbits arent fast on the turn its hares that are fast on the turn y num cunt,hav u got a huntin dog????u havnt hav ya?????ha ha. dont know bwt history..hav read old tales bwt lurchers but cant remember evrythin. my dogs a lurcher collie cross n people use collie f the brain, lurchers r. proper huntin dogs allround tough, soft,wet,snow,mud fields evrything u name it lurchers will catch on it ive seen lurchers wot leave greyhounds f dead
i doubt that, i have a collie cross too, rabbits are agile mate, and smaller than hares, jesus you just keep showing your ignorance, so youve seen a gd lurcher leave a bad greyhound for dead, and over distance that is likely, as greyhounds have no stamina, you dont only get brain from the collie, you get its stamina too, looks to me like you dont know anything, probs a poacher aint ya? some dumbass pikey cunt living in a council estate who goes out without permission from the landowner.
greyhounds turn wide becuase they are so fast, a smaller dog is generally more agile, lets test you shall we? if you know so much about hunting dogs, what are cow hocks? and why should a lurcher be fairly wide in the front? whats the most common cross? what are the three main breed of sighthound used for breeding lurchers? what are the primary quarries for a running dog (pre ban of course)? and what are the animals that you are still allowed to course?
eh????greyhounds turn wider cos they are so big and fast they havnt got a low centre ov gravity thats why not cos they are just fast!!my god yr a fuckin idiot i think u mite hav an intimate relationship with a greyhound
smaller than hares ...so fuck. hares turn faster and are harder to catch u thick cunt. so y sayin,that people that poach arent as cleva as u imnot a pikey but u wana hope there isnt one that knows ya.u show disrespect t evry one on here with y history lessons yr tosser...greyhounds are shite onn the lamp simple as that n if y luv greyhounds that much why hav u got a collie cross????? agile or not hares are faster on the turn n faster all out, how can u argue with that u fucking nugget
i aint argueing with that you ignorant uneducated tramp, jesus christ, greyhounds have been used for centuries for hares, how can YOU argue with that, they aint that shit on the lamp, they aint stupid, that just a myth jesus, if you owned one i doubt that you would feel the same, ive seen them work, they aint shit atall, what are you basing your argument on? your own opinion, christ your dumb, i know that a greyhound has a higher center of gravity than a smaller dog.
i know that a lurcher is an all round dog, thats kinda what they were bred for, greyhound for speed, collie for brains, good feet, better coat, tougher skin, all kinda obviouse dontcha think, whats your problem anyway, your getting pissy becuase i corrected your mistake, and you wont back down, well thats fine, continue to believe basic myths about greyhounds, and ignore basic genetics and knowledge.
if you know everything about coursing, why not give me a history lesson, origin of the lurcher, original crosses, why were they used and who by? when did they start being used, why is the collie cross so common?
the brown hare is regarded by many to be the most sporting adversary for a coursing dog, greyhounds can reach astonishing speeds, but the brown hare can go fast too, and it turns like its on rails, i would say that working one or two dogs would be better and safer, three dogs are far more likely to have a collision, and its not cruel, why do you think that the hare can go so fast, it doesnt go that quick to catch grass, its designed to run away, and it does so very well.
I'm all for animal rights. However, letting the dogs do their job in the wild (open field) doesn't seem cruel. My dog hunts and I think I take good care of him. I run 4 miles a day with my dog and he is the happiest dog I know. The people who complain about this stuff are people who treat their dogs like humans, not like dogs. Dogs are happiest when they're working. Treat them like dogs and they'll be better companions. Treat them like humans and they'll be menaces.
thsats some soundtrack might use that myself for some action video i intend to take next year of my lurchers in action they always work single handed though.
If you took the fastest hare in good condition[antelope jackrabbit] and the fastest dog[greyhound] the hare is faster for sure..the species of hare in this video seems to be the european brown hare they are also capable of hitting the the 45mph range..but some jackrabbits have hit 50 to 52mph now thats movin..lol
thats so unfair and absoulutely disgusting love see thoses people been chased down by smeting >:(
wildatheartxx 1 week ago
Wow...that's cruel.
soupshoe 2 months ago
that's not freken fare that's three dogs on one hare
jaysonorilla1 8 months ago
I knew greyhounds were fast... but that hare is flying! Good thing they aren't carnivores or we'd be screwed.
blackbriar246 8 months ago 2
shuld be one on one not fare
adilzia786 1 year ago
fair play to the hare showed them 3 dogs rite up lol
harmseyboyyy 1 year ago
goway 3 dogs on the hare haha ... the hare never deserved to be caught !!
AcExKiiLLeRzZ 1 year ago
took 3 dogs absolute shite
harryadam1 1 year ago
that hare got up under the dogs noses n they cudnt catch him pathetic!!!! fare shit for full hounds!!!!
eopol87 1 year ago
and its not a rabbits its a hare
RYAND548 1 year ago
I can't believe how many people on here think that it is a rabbit, how gormless can you get! IT IS A HARE!
rob190364 1 year ago
there unfit lurchers
the rabit smookes them
slowest dogs everrrrrrrrrrr
xNeMeSiSv2 1 year ago
what the fucks with the crackpot music
redrmc95 1 year ago
That was a pretty good sized rabbit! It is fun to let the Greys get out and practice their hunting skills every now and then.
Russpilot 1 year ago
man,slow dogs.really.
bulydawg 1 year ago
Wow that rabbit gave them a run for there money.
magicalcrazyness 1 year ago
its a hare you tit not a rabbit it would have died in lees than 2 seconds
doggerlll 2 years ago
them dogs are shit they aint evan touching the rabbit
w4heed786 2 years ago
It's amazing how fast those little bunnies can fly...!!!
tcalcut 2 years ago 3
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Avigoorn 2 years ago
This was in China not the USA. The USA doesn't allow live coursing. Please don't assume every bad thing you see on YouTube is done by Americans.
patteel 1 year ago
wat da fuck are ya doin runnin 3 dogs on a hare........ ya muppet
sparkyjohn100 2 years ago 2
Wow that rabbit was fast
NarutoKurosaki256 2 years ago 6
good video lads
doggerlll 2 years ago
wow cool hare wish i could say the same about the dogs a half dead jack russel would catch the hare quicker
WOLFGANGER666 2 years ago
that hare would outrun any dog you ever owned so badly he would give up and loose sight in less than 15 secs, you probably never even seen a dog that could catch a jackrabbit
chattarip 2 years ago
LOL. Jack Russels are no match for greyhounds in an open field.
Don't show how dumb you are.
iceborn999 2 years ago
I gues owners and dogs are hungry
rakun31 2 years ago
not very fair run, 3 or 2 vs 1, that makes i need to call u MORONS and sad fuckers or just those dogs are so shit u need to set few of them on one hare, pathetic
masaimara 2 years ago
you must sell your dogs they take so long to catch a hare, i am sorry man
bongile1234 2 years ago
Im ok with using dogs (3 at the most!) if you eat what you kill. If its just for sport then i just think its a waste of that animal's life.
freddiemercuryloyal1 2 years ago
them dogs carnt catch for shit
get better 1 ones m8
cowleybwoii18 2 years ago
just one wolf coyote or puma would do this a lot of faster... poor dogs
adriank9 2 years ago
that is a wild hare.... see at the start it goes from a squat (a small scrape where the hare hides from predetors) you walk the coursing dog too it and wait untill it gets up then slip the dog its a brilliant sport as most of the time the hare will evade capture unless it has a brilliant dog on it like the dark destroyer or delightfull cruise (saluki)
ferretfeller 2 years ago
Wow! that hare is so fast.
trini82 2 years ago
thats a hare, not a rabbit .
lurcher08 3 years ago
nice dogs dont really see the point of letting them chase a rabbit thats already been caught since its so easy to just walk around a field and find wild ones but whatever
blackeye240 3 years ago
really cool vid and music suits it down 2 the ground!
audi101010 3 years ago
The hare escapes death 7 times out of 8
BlackMamba1511 3 years ago
them wascaly wabbits kill the wabbits before a plague didnt you listen to elma fudd as a kid lol
rustyrooster1 3 years ago
btw i have never seen such stupidy, who runs three dogs at once? they could easily be injured and if anything are making the task harder for each other, solo coursing is much fairer on hare and dog.
morgasm657 3 years ago
Just as easy to accomplish with a lure. Yes they love to run! But there are a lot of dangerous obstructions in that field.
greymomma 3 years ago
youre white dog with black head is best by far.. what is he??
jjmmm 3 years ago
there hares not rabbits and them dogs r shit 3 dogs 1 hare still cant catch it fucking hell
lewis2007johnson 3 years ago
sry to say it but these dogs cant be very good if your havving to run 3 on 1 rabbit unless they pups
woofie306 3 years ago
Was that a collision at 0:57, it is dangerous running dogs like this.
BEEFYTOMO 3 years ago
i'm getting a pair of whippetts very soon. are they capable of catching rabbits and squirrels? because where i live we have a big problem with over-population of rabbits and grey squirrels and i would like to contibute to solving that problem. thanks
S3CT10NE1GHT 3 years ago
if you wanted to get a dog which would catch rabbits and squirrels then you've probably found the best dog for the job. I see whippets catch squirrels and stuff near my houde all the time.
jo1jo1mo1jo1 3 years ago
get whippet crosses, whippetXbedlington perhaps, ideal rabbit dog, much more useful than a human companion, also a whippet cross has a stronger jaw, better nose and stamina than a purebred whippet, but if you have already got the dogs, then yes they will happily hunt rabbit rat squirrel and mouse, and fox if your not careful, but they are lacking in jaw power and if they decide to tangle with a fox and you dont get there fast enuf they can be injured, make sure they r wel trained b4 working them
morgasm657 3 years ago
This is insane and shoult be illegal! I have a grayhound and would never do something like this with him. I feel for thaat poor rabbit.
IcapI 3 years ago
so you wouldnt allow your dog to do what he has been bred to do? why do you think he has a huge prey drive? a long neck? and speed enough to catch a hare? what do you think he would like to do? not what you want hi to do, what would he like to do?
morgasm657 3 years ago
I agree that they are breed as hunters but most dogs that live in our homes are breed to do all kind of things that isnt even applyable today. My dog is perfectly happy with huntin balls and playing with his lurching friends. Good exercise and no one gets killed.
IcapI 3 years ago
no most dogs are bred for certain things that are still applicable to modern life, every dog has a use and a purpose, and every dog is happiest doing what they have been bred for, city people live so detached from country life they just dont understand anymore, its sad. only one in ten hares are caught at a hare coursing meet, nine out of ten hares shot at are killed, and hare coursing was a reason to keep hares on your land, theres no reason to have them now, and plenty of reasons not to.
morgasm657 3 years ago
I kept many types of dogs, but greyhounds and a lurcher I have now. They are one of the oldest known dogs, pics of Greys and salukis (very simular to Greys have been found in Egyption tombs. I think these dogs have more intinct to do what their bred for than most other dogs......I bet your greyhound runs in his sleep (legs even move) dreaming what they love to do. One of mine runs in her sleep and even snap at her prey LOL
sonicboom333 3 years ago
I will add though the vid shows an unsporting amount of dogs on that one hare.
sonicboom333 3 years ago
Look I'm not that disturbed by your comment, however if we still used dogs for what they are bred for it means you support dog fighting, bear and bull baiting i assume as well?
justin8448 3 years ago
dog fighting i do not condone, becuase people are profiting from the harming of a creature which is engaging in a bloody contest, which is a manifestation of the dogs protective and misplaced pack loyalty, i cannot enjoy the concept nor what i have seen of it, the dog gives its all for its owner, and the owner repays it either by killing it or fixing it up for another fight to the near death. but this doesnt mean the the breed of dog can be discredited, pitbulls english bull terriers---
morgasm657 3 years ago
---and staffies all have alot to offer the lurcher gene pool for instance, bull greyhounds being one of the most popular lurcher crosses, they are rarely aggressive towards other dogs, but the fighting dog in them gives them stamina beyond belief, also pre ban people used longer legged staffies to hunt foxes, a lurcher and a staffy can catch and kill a fox before you even notice it slinking away into the bushes.(i am a stong believer in humane killing of an animal, and hate prolonged suffering.
morgasm657 3 years ago
The only thing i agree with is your last sentence, seriously thou you can't take moral high-ground on this one, your condoning a bloodsport at the end of the day, its just over quicker than dog fighting. As articulate as you like to sound, your totally contradictory. You hate prolonged suffering, yet seem to think being torn apart by dogs is over in the blink of an eye, particularly for larger animals, such as a foxes. Call a spade a spade, your still using one animal to kill another.
justin8448 3 years ago
where is the prolonged suffering in a hare course? Its over within a minute generally, your dog is providing you with a show of athleticism that cannot be equalled. and you get a meal out of it. whats wrong with apreciating natures finest pitting there wits against one another? unless you have taken part you can never understand.
morgasm657 3 years ago
and as for the hare being torn apart, coursing dogs will generally retrieve live to hand, or kill the hare with a crushing bite to the head, since you havent taken part, you wouldnt know this and can be forgiven for your ignorance on the subject.
morgasm657 3 years ago
The only ignorance is your own clearly from your last half dozen posts. Don't pretend that every hare you send your dogs after meets its end in record time. What about younger dogs that you train? oh I suppose they get it right first go and then 100% of the time there-after. Whats wrong with a track?, the fastest dogs go there, not mutilating rabbits and hares in some paddock! You like watching them be killed, your dogs will chase a pully or ball for that matter all the same!
justin8448 3 years ago
and have you got any experience in training coursing dogs? alot of people start coursing dogs on rabbits, and some give them their first run on a previosly run hare, its either caught or not, which is alot fairer than shooting, where the quarry can be injured, it has a massive chance of getting away, although not so in this video, hare isnt given much of a chance, but most hare coursing allows the hare an eighty to a hundred yard head start. hare coursing is the savior of the brown hare-
morgasm657 3 years ago
or course the dog doesnt get it right 100 percent of the time, wouldnt be much of a sport if there was no chance of the hare getting away, but it isnt ever injured, all it has to do is run, which it does remarkably well, it is arguably the best coursing quarry, and is well respected, the hare undergoes a hard life and coursing is the most efficient selection process, ensuring that only the quickest breed. i have never heard of hares suffering slow deaths from dogs, if they are caught the dog--
morgasm657 3 years ago
-either kills it or brings it back unharmed, the majority of coursing dogs being hard mouthed, which is where he/she kills the hare, dogs dont play with their food, they arent cats, they get the job done and anyone who works dogs to quarry can atest to this. the hare has a sporting chance of getting away, at the waterloo cup where at least eighty yards is given the hare has a 9 out of 10 chance of getting away.
morgasm657 3 years ago
fuck me your stupid, i dont half love hearing the trash that anti hunt fools spew from there mouths, a lack of understanding is a perfect reason for you to look into something before you post opinionated remarks on a public forum, all you do is make a fool of yourself, anyone who understands the countryside and countrysports will agree with me, as will any thinking person. im am getting sick of this, if you want to continue this argument message me. and i will send you some info. ok.
morgasm657 3 years ago
surely if it was a bloodsport there would have to be blood, not very common in harecoursing, you are an unresponsible dog owner. also a racing dog doesnt have to use its head, it just has to run, thats why faster dogs are track dogs, and smarter dogs are coursing dogs, im sure you delight in having a moron for a dog, but i would like mine to have to exercise its mind as much as its body.
morgasm657 3 years ago
Your argument is futile, you are taking enjoyment in the terror then death of another animal, a god damn bunny no less, you brave warrior. You can justify it all you like, and carry on about the psychology of your rodent like canines all you want, but no amount of technical spin talk will diminish the fact your cruel, a coward and so defensive that it's plain to see that you know im right. Period.
justin8448 3 years ago
lol, people take pleasure in hunting becuase it is a throwback from hunting to survive, its a satisfaction that is unrivaled, you cannot understand, i assume you are a vegan becuase if not then you should really take a look at your moral priorities, hunted animals suffer less stress than animals killed in an abatoir, proven fact, a hare being chased is natural, thats why its so fast, animals herded into the slaughterhouse where they can sense that they are going to die is unnatural.
morgasm657 3 years ago
@morgasm657 na, vegaqns cant take the moral high ground either, if they new the destruction of brazilian rainforests that goes on every day just to provide some white guy with dreads with milk for his shredded wheats then they'd probably choose an organicly reared wild hare any day, even if it was caught with a dog. Actually the dog is better for the enviroment then the gun in my opinion.
bazzleskizzle 1 year ago
@justin8448 'your argument is futile' lol, who are you, dr evil?
Removing vermin from the fields in which your wheat is grown in an organic non destructive way is a good thing. Unless you grow all of your own food then you don't actually have an argument to put accross. How many rats do you think have been poisoned or killed with terriers so that we can have quality vegetable products? You're a fool.
bazzleskizzle 1 year ago
my greyhound catches rabbits and hares all the time, it is something that she enjoys doing and it is unfair on the dogs not to let them chase rabbits, do you think it should be illegal for a dog living in the wild to catch a rabbit which it needs to live?
jo1jo1mo1jo1 3 years ago
But your dog dont need it to surrvive. As Justin say. Wold you let your dog be involved in dogfighting just because hes breed to, if you had a breed like that?
IcapI 3 years ago
no i would let my dog fight if it was bred to fight because most dogs would naturally not want to fight, they only fight because people have made them fight. nobody has forced greyhounds to kill rabbits, they do it because it is their natural instinct to catch food to eat.
jo1jo1mo1jo1 3 years ago
All dogs are genetically predators. To suggest a greyhound kills a rabbit for need of food, could be applied to a dog killing anything. If you allow your dogs to do whatever comes naturally to it is irresponsible dog ownership. Your dog is not living in a "natural" environment, the laws of nature don't apply.
justin8448 3 years ago
Dogs arent aware that they are not in their traditional environment and most dogs will always be trying to get food because they dont know whether or not they will get fed. And my dog does not just kill all animals like sheep or cats, it only kills rabbits hares squirrels and a few other small animals. I can only stop my dog from catching animals by keeping it on a lead at all times which is unfair to do to a greyhound and would be "unresponsible dog ownership".
jo1jo1mo1jo1 3 years ago
Your actually contradicting yourself, of course your dog doesn't recognize its not in a natural environment, hence the reason it's your responsibility. If your aim is to exercise your dog, and not have it kill animals, then put a muzzle on it, simple. You however enjoy allowing it to kill these animals, its not just a simple by product of taking it for a run, and you know im right.
justin8448 3 years ago
to be totally honest i do enjoy watching my dog chase rabbits, although i do think that making it into a hobby or sport is cruel. i would put a muzzle on my dog but when she is wearing one she spends all her time trying to get it off and not moving. also my dog enjoys chasing rabbits, and when she catches them it makes her very happy, and i like to see my dog happy
jo1jo1mo1jo1 3 years ago
right....so if you allowed your dog to kill other animals all the time, thats cruel, but if it's only sometimes it's not. So if she starts enjoying biting children, you'll allow that, because whatever makes her happy, makes you happy? Thing is i'm not all that concerned it chases rabbits, but call it like it is, and that is that you get off on it, there's no higher morality about what your doing because you do it occasionally.
justin8448 3 years ago
So what if we used a different animal. im a falconer and i use birds of prey to hunt. is that cruel. thats what she lives for. is that cruel. dogs seem less cruel when it comes to animals. the red-tail will start eating wile the rabbits still alive dogs usually dont.
enoughraptor6 3 years ago
can you train em to peck your eyes?
justin8448 3 years ago
if they attacked you and you feed them they will do it again for more food. but there is no reason to do that other than trying to get yourself hurt. they can do alot of damage if they want.
enoughraptor6 3 years ago
ok bird brain
justin8448 3 years ago
Real mature lol
enoughraptor6 3 years ago
@justin8448 children are people and hares are food, you really are a weak link in the survival of the human race, do you think that we got to this privileged state where people can sit down at their computer and tell other people that hunting is wrong, by allowing people like you to exist, people like you never would have existed when life was harder, why does living comfortably allow you to tell me what to do? personally i am not rich and enjoy having a free way to get food.
morgasm657 1 year ago
@morgasm657 you shut this guy down completely lol
Slappedwithabigblack 1 year ago
@justin8448 good god, i just found and reread this whole argument, justin, your arguments are sentiment based and as such are weak. the laws of nature dont apply? bullshit, look at our dog breeds and the health of them, working breeds that carry out a specific task (derived from a natural behaviour) are healthier than breeds that have no purpose so working them like this is good for the breed. and since the ban came in a hell of a lot more hares are shot and killed on ex coursing estates.
morgasm657 1 year ago
so hwta do u do with rabbit afterwards, store it? I don't like that being sport, but if u did soming with the rabbit, like eat it, actally use it in some way to survive like fur then I son't mind. :)
cookieshaker 3 years ago
hare...its tasty...
morgasm657 3 years ago
btw we could do this by message instead which means that you can give me a detailed history lesson instead of several short comments, and btw, it pays to stick together on this, antis love it when we disagree
morgasm657 3 years ago
00180mille- your right hare coursing is illegal, are you glad that its illegal, well im glad that your helping to lessen the population of brown hares in britain, organised coursing was the savior of the brown hare, and now that its gone, we could easily lose it forever.
morgasm657 3 years ago
Brown hares cannot go 45 mph, nor can a jackrabbit. The brown hare is very agile, but slower than the Jacks we run in the West.
The best pure greyhound coursing dogs live and hunt in the western USA. The fastest GHs from the Australia tracks have peaked at 44 or so. If you want to catch Jacks, you need good speed and lots of air. Courses can go for minutes depending where you are. The video looks like a walk up, similar to what is done here. Decent coursing.
Biteysmurf 3 years ago
A antelope jackrabbit can't run 45mph??? are you serious dude?? You are one of the few people who course hares and most all wildlife experts would not agree with you on this issue me included......but to each his own viewpoint.
bighare08 2 years ago
greyhounds are shite for hare coursing u need a lurcher u fucking knobs
dean27885 3 years ago
greyhounds were the original coursing dog, lurchers are a more rounded dog, the greyhound lacking in stamina, saluki crosses are commen, greyhounds explosive speed and the salukis stamina, your an idiot, greyhounds are still used all over for coursing, when you add a slower dog, you get a slower dog, numpty.
morgasm657 3 years ago
here man dodo hav u got a dog????? nobody uses greyhounds on the lamp or iilegal coursing u know fuckall saluki crosses are rare nobody wants them they are thick as fuck and do nowt but fuck things up on the lamp, only them daft egyptions want them so they can last in the heat...or n change y name y fuckin dodo morgans a girls name. mr i know evrythin bwt huntin yor funny in a wanker way
dean27885 3 years ago
and your a wanker in a wanker way, organised coursing was all greyhounds, before the gay ban, also purebred salukis have been used a fair amount, dunno where your at, what crosses do u use? out of curiosity? of course no one uses greyhounds on the lamp, thats just plain stupid, fast dog like that will hurt itself very easy in the dark, but they are used all over for daytime hare coursing, bit slow on the turn for rabbit work.
morgasm657 3 years ago
lol. wot u mean they r a bit slow on the turn for a rabbit? rabbits arent fast on the turn its hares that are fast on the turn y num cunt,hav u got a huntin dog????u havnt hav ya?????ha ha. dont know bwt history..hav read old tales bwt lurchers but cant remember evrythin. my dogs a lurcher collie cross n people use collie f the brain, lurchers r. proper huntin dogs allround tough, soft,wet,snow,mud fields evrything u name it lurchers will catch on it ive seen lurchers wot leave greyhounds f dead
dean27885 3 years ago
i doubt that, i have a collie cross too, rabbits are agile mate, and smaller than hares, jesus you just keep showing your ignorance, so youve seen a gd lurcher leave a bad greyhound for dead, and over distance that is likely, as greyhounds have no stamina, you dont only get brain from the collie, you get its stamina too, looks to me like you dont know anything, probs a poacher aint ya? some dumbass pikey cunt living in a council estate who goes out without permission from the landowner.
morgasm657 3 years ago
greyhounds turn wide becuase they are so fast, a smaller dog is generally more agile, lets test you shall we? if you know so much about hunting dogs, what are cow hocks? and why should a lurcher be fairly wide in the front? whats the most common cross? what are the three main breed of sighthound used for breeding lurchers? what are the primary quarries for a running dog (pre ban of course)? and what are the animals that you are still allowed to course?
morgasm657 3 years ago
eh????greyhounds turn wider cos they are so big and fast they havnt got a low centre ov gravity thats why not cos they are just fast!!my god yr a fuckin idiot i think u mite hav an intimate relationship with a greyhound
dean27885 3 years ago
smaller than hares ...so fuck. hares turn faster and are harder to catch u thick cunt. so y sayin,that people that poach arent as cleva as u imnot a pikey but u wana hope there isnt one that knows ya.u show disrespect t evry one on here with y history lessons yr tosser...greyhounds are shite onn the lamp simple as that n if y luv greyhounds that much why hav u got a collie cross????? agile or not hares are faster on the turn n faster all out, how can u argue with that u fucking nugget
dean27885 3 years ago
i aint argueing with that you ignorant uneducated tramp, jesus christ, greyhounds have been used for centuries for hares, how can YOU argue with that, they aint that shit on the lamp, they aint stupid, that just a myth jesus, if you owned one i doubt that you would feel the same, ive seen them work, they aint shit atall, what are you basing your argument on? your own opinion, christ your dumb, i know that a greyhound has a higher center of gravity than a smaller dog.
morgasm657 3 years ago
btw i dont know everything about hunting, but obviously a fair bit more than you.
morgasm657 3 years ago
i know that a lurcher is an all round dog, thats kinda what they were bred for, greyhound for speed, collie for brains, good feet, better coat, tougher skin, all kinda obviouse dontcha think, whats your problem anyway, your getting pissy becuase i corrected your mistake, and you wont back down, well thats fine, continue to believe basic myths about greyhounds, and ignore basic genetics and knowledge.
morgasm657 3 years ago
if you know everything about coursing, why not give me a history lesson, origin of the lurcher, original crosses, why were they used and who by? when did they start being used, why is the collie cross so common?
morgasm657 3 years ago
them dogz are shite too slow n big, and for the daft cunt 00180mille shut the fuck up
dean27885 3 years ago
You do know that corsing is illegal!!!!!
U twats
00180mille 3 years ago
You know that coursing is not illegal in every country in the world, don't you?
rickmancr 3 years ago
can you see a date on this video? nope ah well not illegal to show something that had been lost in britain.
morgasm657 3 years ago
the brown hare is regarded by many to be the most sporting adversary for a coursing dog, greyhounds can reach astonishing speeds, but the brown hare can go fast too, and it turns like its on rails, i would say that working one or two dogs would be better and safer, three dogs are far more likely to have a collision, and its not cruel, why do you think that the hare can go so fast, it doesnt go that quick to catch grass, its designed to run away, and it does so very well.
morgasm657 3 years ago
I'm all for animal rights. However, letting the dogs do their job in the wild (open field) doesn't seem cruel. My dog hunts and I think I take good care of him. I run 4 miles a day with my dog and he is the happiest dog I know. The people who complain about this stuff are people who treat their dogs like humans, not like dogs. Dogs are happiest when they're working. Treat them like dogs and they'll be better companions. Treat them like humans and they'll be menaces.
boxsterwelby 3 years ago
do they catchthe rabbit?
wolfiegal777 3 years ago
that´s cruel !!!
donodesta 3 years ago
That i sad that the fastest kind of dog and keep up with a simple litle rabbit... Sad.
0utdoors4life 3 years ago
They arent rabbits they are one of the quickest land mammals on the face of they earth.The Brown Hare.
BEEFYTOMO 3 years ago
go the rabbit
antonioVillasboas 4 years ago
runny bunny!
remoman 4 years ago
check out the way we hunt greyhounds
ken25002 4 years ago
3 vs 1 ^^
in a 1on1 the hare d win!
Schnupfndrache7 4 years ago
what country is this
AJAR1979 4 years ago
thsats some soundtrack might use that myself for some action video i intend to take next year of my lurchers in action they always work single handed though.
AJAR1979 4 years ago
Three big dogs V's one little hare,..loads of men gathering togethin in one secluded field,..hmmmm GAY!!
lenbucy 4 years ago
I agree with you bigtime! it's one thing to course thats cool but let it be one on one not three and four dogs on one hare thats punk like to me.
bighare08 4 years ago
who cares its just a fucking rabbit! iv killed so many of them lil bitches and all there critter friends and sell their furs to make good money
olysheety 4 years ago
this is horrible you are cruil!!!!!!!!!how could you do this to a rabbit wat did the rabbit do to you!!!!!!!!
olilmizzkt 4 years ago
If Greyts can do 45mph, how fast is that rabbit going?
Aqualung8705 4 years ago
If you took the fastest hare in good condition[antelope jackrabbit] and the fastest dog[greyhound] the hare is faster for sure..the species of hare in this video seems to be the european brown hare they are also capable of hitting the the 45mph range..but some jackrabbits have hit 50 to 52mph now thats movin..lol
bighare08 4 years ago
Yeah, they all took turns chasing the hare. No one dog kept up the whole time. Stupid dogs..
0utdoors4life 3 years ago
Thats a dangerous place to run dogs. And why run so many together?? Dangerous...
BEEFYTOMO 4 years ago
the only thing kepping them greyhounds goin is they got big heart but u need speed aswell
sully61524 4 years ago
looks like fun to watch
DOGGREASE 4 years ago