Anatoly Karpov, later World Champion, wrote in his 1991 autobiography that Korchnoi had complained in the Soviet Union, shortly after the 1962 Candidates' event, about not being included in the colluding group of Soviets.
fischer could easily have made an offer to play Karpov had he wanted" there were plenty of backers to put up the money for a match: had Karpov refused Fischer would have called him the coward. He didn't. At bottom he was the coward, look at how then cravenly he comes back to play Spassky for money when it didn't count. If in 92 he dug up that kind break easily he could have done it with Karpov but guess what he didn't want to play deep down
@56richardcory but he did have something to prove -there was a lot of controversy, psychology & matters that far transcended chess surrounding the Fischer-Spassky match. He needed to hold on to the title for10 yrs, play & defeat Karpov twice while playing at the top of his game in between AS HE HIMSELF said he would (in an interview in the States after his defeat of Spassky he was asked what are yr plans to which he replied i'm gonna play a lot of chess. He let everyone down unfortunately.
I don't think I've ever heard the "coward angle" you put forth here without evidence. Fischer submitted to FIDE a carefully delineated list of 179 demands the rejection of any one of which would result in voluntary forfeiture of his title. As to your vague "friends say he was a lazy shit his prep" etc, all that is known for certain is that Fischer carried on his person the entire Karpov canon of game scores during this period. So if a gutless exit was his plan, why go to all this trouble?
I know well Bobby's style,analysed about 50 Bobby's game,you right he was very careful,but Karpov start to work hard with opening game,new chess era was start.Believe me karpov would have had 2800 in the end 1979-1980,but he was playing so mant tournament,never avoided tournament.Garry did it,he was playing 5-7 tournaments per years.I thinke you are agree with me at that point.How day top 15 have 2750 but they are not even close to Bobby/
@TheSolipsist1 no you don't think for yourself. you follow the herd mentality. you eat up everything your conspiracy theorist buddies write in their discredited books, without pausing to think about why these people are all considered loonies (like yourself). you don't bother checking facts, you'd rather accept the conspiracies morons tell you. Why? Because you've been an outcast all your life, so you cling on to your war cry "against the herd at all costs, even when means against the facts!"
@TheSolipsist1 lol, I'm arguing with a guy who favorites videos of white people beating up black people, along with videos of underage girls dancing. not to mention your "mind control" and other conspiracy bullshit videos. you are apparently racist, you are also anti-semitic, and you are disturbed. you are also a ignorant by choice and you rewrite history. all the information is there for you to educate yourself, and you *choose* to remain stupid. people like you disgust me. go see a shrink.
@TheSolipsist1 oh and about meeting online, I'll gladly kick your ass in a few games boy. I'm a chess master and you're not. of course i have no doubt that you'll lie about the result afterwards, since you have no problems lying about history and about an entire group of people, since you have no problems when it comes to rewriting history. but still the knowledge of intellectually kicking your ass yet again, this time over the chessboard, will bring me tremendous satisfaction.
@TheSolipsist1 a lesson you'll maybe learn in life someday: being in the radical minority does not mean you are right. of course, one CAN be in the minority and right, but it's not a badge of pride to go against the majority for no other reason than that. it's about facts People like Faurisson, Fischer, and yourself are deemed delusional when it comes to history for the simple reason that you ARE delusional. History contradicts you. Your decision to remain ignorant has made your life pathetic.
@TheSolipsist1 wrong. galileo was one of the people who didn't let blind faith get in the way of reason and facts. you are one of the people whose faith in conspiracies and outright lies gets in the way of historical facts. you have no facts, only a few already discredited names like Faurisson, while countless documentaries, original documents, testimonies, and recorded events *by the nazis themselves* prove you wrong. It is not up for debate. You are the kind of person who ignores reason.
@TheSolipsist1 buy. a. dictionary. really, it's not hard. someone who is racist against africans and africans alone is still racist, even if he has no problem with african-americans. someone who's anti-semitic against Jews is still anti-semitic, and in fact it is the main usage of the word today as any dictionary or wikipedia look-up will teach you. if someone's anti-semitic against arabs alone they are still anti-semitic. numbers have nothing to do with it. EDUCATION is your friend, ignoramus
@TheSolipsist1 perhaps it gives you joy to log on with your two dozen dupe accounts to vote down my comments -- after all, it's what someone like you with no social life would be expected to do. I am sorry you haven't ever been loved by anyone. Truly. But it doesn't mean you should take it out through hate and blatant lies. Educate yourself. Until you do, your existence truly makes the world worse. Open your mind, realize that being against the majority does not always mean being right, fool.
@TheSolipsist1 it's not that you don't go with what the herd does, you just don't go with what reality dictates. there are historical facts that are incontrovertible, and like other conspiracy theorists and delusional so-called "scholars" who get no respect among the established community, you simply choose to ignore them. perhaps it makes you feel special to go "against the 'herd'" even if it means being an idiot, but it doesn't make you smart. on the contrary, it makes you a pathetic boy.
@TheSolipsist1 say what you want, I am a chess master and am working towards my first IM norm. I understand how delusional morons like yourself are consistently unable to understand facts, but the fact is I am a chess master and have been for well over a decade.
@TheSolipsist1 there's a reason you'll never be a respected scholar. there's a reason your sphere of influence will never go beyond youtube. t has to do with the fact that you trust conspiracy theorists and liars over extremely well documented historical facts, facts that have been proven time and again for decades.
you are a hateful, stupid little boy. your existence makes the world worse. perhaps you haven't ever been loved. whatever it is, i hope some day you become a decent human being.
@TheSolipsist1 you are either a liar or incredibly stupid. or both.
i am a chess master and have been for many years. i never knew fischer personally but i've known many who knew him. chess, along with chess history is a huge part of my life. Fischer was paranoid, increasingly so after he forfeited the title, and everyone who knew him acknowledges this. but you are also paranoid. you are more mentally deranged than he was. sadly, you don't have a talent to make up for your insanity.
@TheSolipsist1 open your mind. i have read enough Faurisson et al, and there's a reason those conspiracy morons don't get any respect among real scholars. the holocaust is one of the best documented events of the 20th century. do yourself a favor and visit the holocaust museum in israel or d.c. or watch any of the countless documentaries, or go read the original nazi records for yourself.
like all conspiracy theorists, your mind is made up and you won't let the facts get in your way. idiot
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@TheSolipsist1 how many times has it been repeated that semites include arabs. yes, genius, i never denied that. you act like it's some kind of revelation. that doesn't change the definition -- the official, accepted, and widespread definition -- of the world. if someone hates jews, as you do, they are anti-semitic. if someone hates arabs they are also anti-semitic, based on the etymology of the word. this idea that it needs to be both is ridiculous. educate yourself, kiddo.
@TheSolipsist1 ignorant, stupid, hateful, prejudiced liars and conspiracy morons like you are the reason there is so much shit going on in the world. i can only hope it's a stage you'll grow out of when you mature. sadly some people choose to remain uneducated and bigoted their entire lives. good luck in life... you'll need it.
@TheSolipsist1 I don't have time for uneducated, prejudiced conspiracy theorists. If you really believe this bullshit then I pity you. Goodbye. Go read your "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and continue believing its not a fraud.
@TheSolipsist1 Fischer was a paranoid anti-semitic crazy guy. outside of chess he was insane. go ahead and believe all of his delusions, but it doesn't change the facts.
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@TheSolipsist1 I see you enjoy this role of "educator" but I know about Korchnoi and the only thing you're right about it why he defected and that he's an intelligent guy. All true. But if by saying he "knows not to say what he really thinks to the media" you mean to imply that he also hates Jews (like Fischer did), then you're even more of an imbecile. Korchnoi is Jewish himself by the way (as was Fischer).
@TheSolipsist1 yeah, sure Fischer wasn't anti-semitic, saying things like the holocaust never happened or that jews are all liars and cheaters is not anti-semitic in the least.
outrageous arabs are semites like jews outrageous...
Semitic (from the Biblical "Shem", Hebrew: שם, translated as "name", Arabic: ساميّ) was first used to refer to a language family of largely Middle Eastern origin, now called the Semitic languages. This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Akkadian, Amharic, ARABIC, Aramaic, Ge'ez, Hebrew, Maltese, Phoenician, Tigre and Tigrinya among others. (wikipedia)
Bobby Fisher could not lie. He knew the truth that was his problem.
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@slickrickdarula idiot, korchnoi knows that arabs are also semites and even points it out in the interview, he's saying it's outrageous to claim "i'm not anti-semitic because I have nothing against arabs" -- and he's right.
@elmatador404 did I say he did not? All I did was quote the definition of semite. Now according to the definition it is not outrageous to distinguish between anti-semite and anti-jewish. Semite comprise Arabs also, not only Jews: In fact in the ``Semite`` population the Arabs outnumber the Jews many times over. So it is more anti-arab to be anti-semite then it is anti-jewish by definition and numbers. Now if you wish to make the case Fischer was anti-jewish you can, but not anti-semite.
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@slickrickdarula I suggest you look up the definition of anti-semitism in any established dictionary, or just wikipedia if you're too lazy and learn. Of course Arabs are semites, but one definition (and the primary one) of the term has come to mean prejudice against Jews specifically. It really doesn't matter, he was anti-jewish I don't care what term people use. But Korchnoi was absolutely right, anyway, because he was using the term in the most common way and that is one proper definition
@elmatador404 Well you seem to know for yourself arabs are semites. So I use Anti-Jew to classify someone anti jewish and anti-semite for someone anti semitic. Again I stand by my point: It is not outrageous to claim someone is not an anti-semite when he is not anti-jewish or anti-arab. It can be debated, it can even be controversial for some. But it is not outrageous to follow the real meaning of words.
You claim: ''korchnoi knows that arabs are also semites"
Again listen to 0:48 ''...Arabs and Jewish people both are called semites: This is outrageous.''
Arabs are semites: nothing outrageous about that. This is the point I was making. If you wish to try and disprove the fact that Arabs are semites: Go right ahead.
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@slickrickdarula did you even read what I wrote? You don't understand Korchnoi. He is not saying it's ridiculous to call Arabs semites -- he understands this. He's saying it's ridiculous to claim that because he has no problem with Arabs he's not anti-semitic. If someone is prejudiced against Jews OR Arabs he/she is anti-semitic, and certainly the most common definition is when the prejudice is against Jews. Fischer was anti-semitic, and it has nothing to do with his attitude towards arabs.
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@slickrickdarula in other words, Fischer's "defense" that he's not anti-semitic because he has no problems with Arabs is what Korchnoi calls outrageous, and he's exactly right. You don't have to be prejudiced against BOTH Jews and Arabs to be anti-semitic. Look the word up in any dictionary. Look it up on wikipedia. The word has a specific meaning which has been used over and over, and Fischer's "defense" was outrageous. And yes, duh, we know that Arabs are semites too, that's not the point.
@elmatador404 What is outrageous? Not wanting to be falsely labeled something he was not. I am sure he Fischer would not of minded being called Jew hater.
And btw I already posted the wikipedia definiton of Semitic... I guess I will again
In linguistics and ethnology, Semitic (from the Biblical "Shem", Hebrew: שם, translated as "name", Arabic: ساميّ) was first used to refer to a language family of largely Middle Eastern origin, now called the Semitic languages. This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Akkadian, Amharic, Arabic, Aramaic, Ge'ez, Hebrew, Maltese, Phoenician, Tigre and Tigrinya among others.
@elmatador404 "Semitic peoples and their languages, in both modern and ancient historic times, have covered a broad area bridging Africa, Western Asia and the Arabian Peninsula. ''
''In a religious context, the term 'Semitic' can refer to the religions associated with the speakers of these languages: thus Judaism, Christianity and Islam are often described as "Semitic religions" "
''The term anti-Semitic has been used on occasion to include bigotry against other Semitic-language peoples such as Arabs, but such usage is not widely accepted.''
While I say it it controversial maybe... open for discussion... Wikipedia says it is not widely accepted... but you say outrageous? How outrageous... to use a words etymology. And an outrage to whom?
Was not defense by Fischer btw. Just a clarification.
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@slickrickdarula i think it's a misunderstanding. what i'm saying, and what i believe Korchnoi is saying, is that it's outrageous for Fischer to pretend he was not anti-semitic because he was ok with Arabs. That's an outrageous defense. If someone's racist against black people, it's not a good defense to say "oh, but I have no problem with black people from Nigeria." Someone prejudiced against Arabs is anti-semitic. Someone prejudiced against Jews is antisemitic. Either way, he is antisemitic.
Korchnoi has the most outstanding performance as chess player in the history of the game,whilst others are playing veterans tournaments he's still playing at top tournaments and yet winning em'.
if korchnio was so great, and fischer so laughable, how come fischer was world champion and korchnoi was not?
in 1962 he qualified as a candidate from the 1962 Stockholm Interzonal, scoring 14/22 for a shared 4–5th place finish, as Fischer won. the idiot lauugs now laughs but karpov wrote that korchnoi was asked to, and did, throw his matches to let petrosian face Fischer in the finals.
@CE750 What Korchnoi felt was outrageous was the fact that Fischer ONLY mentioned Arabs when talking about Semites. He didn't say: "I have nothing against Arabs AND Jews".. he only said: "I have nothing against Arabs!"...
@elbay2 Fischer, who as a Jew knew how abused the terms "Anti-semite" is was probably trying to make a political statement. I mean, just like "Because I'm black" is used by every black person who doesn't get a job, "Anti-Semite" is used by ANYONE who dares question Israel, Zionism, or Jewish control of the media and finance..
That is how Fischer got out of the accusations of being anti-Semitic. Although anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish are believed to be the same thing, strictly speaking, Semites are a racial group, and only about 10% of the world's Jewry are Semites. So when he was accused to being anti-Semitic, he could deny it with absolute sincerity.
Fischer was a genius. I just think its sad that he didn't defend his crown and offer the world more master games of chess for posterity. Whatever his beliefs, he should have done the talking over the board using his brilliance in defiance. Alas, he had a self destruct mode hot wired into his soul, maybe some self loathing deep down, or a pain for never having known his real father, and losing his mum so early. RIP Bobby.
@liquidplastic62 The irony of it all is that there is some evidence that suggests that his biological father was Jewish; a father he never knew... hmm... wait a minute; maybe it's not THAT ironic!..
exactly my friend that is the point his "personality" was the great reason to win the worldchampionchip..incredible trust himself,high theorical analysis the first to beats the soviet machine(something impossible in those years) he was a brilliant champion,and gave the sport-cience a higher category...like human being,him,you and me we have shadows and lights..the really important is the legacy!!!..
I don't get his point though. Yes, Fischer was against Jews, but I don't think he ever said he was against the whole Semitic ethnicity (which doesn't really mean anything.)
It'd be like someone saying they hate Germans, but since Germans originally came from Scandinavia then that must mean you hate Scandinavia's too. Terrible logic.
You idiot, do you realize that in countless radio interviews from 1999 to 2008, Bobby Fischer advocated for the death of ALL Jews? Post your email, and I'll send you a link to the interviews. Moron.
if someone can make look tal like an absolute beginner and refute a sicilian line a team of soviet grandmasters came up than he definetly can beat karpov... to understand fishers strength you have to know he had no1 to learn from all great players were in russia and he still became the greatest, ok karpov played positional stronger than fishers usual buddies but fisher grew stronger the stronger the opponent there was no way karpov could have won
Jews have no right to kill people in order to take their properties especially that according to their book god punished them by sending them to the desert and from there went to different countries. They were never attacked in their kingdom. They left and now they want to kill ethnic clensing and murder christians.
The outrageous think Korchnoi was talking about, is not that both Arabs and Jews are considered semites. He even confirms that point by saying it himself. The outrageous thing is that Fischer is using semantics to avoid answering wether he hates Jews.
No one hates jews but people hate israel . because jews in israel killed thousands in palastine. Their government continue the ethnic clensing and genocide of christians, continue to take over their property. Now israelis are voting for a law to prohibit anyone who is not jew to own or rent a property in israel. every week they send warnings to christians families in jeruselem to tern over their properties. Please watch the fil occupation 101. Jews in israel are evil
Jews created Israel because they were being killed and persecuted. They just took back what was once theirs... Its all history, its all about war, its all about money. They could be yellow with pink dots on their faces and believe in the God of Food they would still want to take back what was theirs once. It has nothing to do with religious beliefs or cultures...
Fisher was confronted about being anti-semitic, and instead of unequivocally denying his anti-semitism, he gave a sarcastic reply. The impression that he left was that, yes, he did not like Jews.
The fact is he beat every Soviet player who already had "been there done that" and become champion. He did not dominate against any of the other top Soviet GMs, namely Geller and Korchnoi. And he was too smart to let himself get squashed by a hungry, unperturbable Karpov. I give him credit for being very pragmatic about his capabilities, finding ways to not finish the candidates cycles in 65 and 68 because Spassky was still on the rise.
yes thats indeed strange, it were beautiful tactic but to be verry honest fisher was tactically much too strong to go wrong in that he must have been sick or not taken him serious or whatever, maybe geller found a way to make him nervous i dont know but geller was strong nontheless
Total negationist bullshit. Fischer avoided the cycle to duck Spassky?? LOL sure. His difficulties with Soviet players had ended by Sousse 1967. Between then and the 1970 Interzonal he stomped the shit out of Geller, Stein, Ivkov, Smyslov and Taimanov. Then in the Candidates he faced Taimanov and the unbeatable Petrosian and went 12-1-3. The "unperturbable" (not a word) Karpov barely made it past Korchnoi to get to Fischer and he would have been eaten alive. So get your head out of your ass.
@DavidVIIIcool No need to be sorry, MANNNN, but my statement was right on the money. From mid-1968 to 1970 Fischer was inactive. When he returned, no one could touch him. Geller's last victory over Fischer came in '67. Look it up.
@Brianjonestown At the end of the day, if we were unbiased, we wouldn't even care what Fischer's true intentions for missing his title defense match was. At the end of the day, it's the concrete realities that matter, not speculation.
You can't award the title to somebody who refused to defend it for whatever reason. FIDE literally gave in to every demand he had, except one requiring the challenger to win by at least TWO games. FIDE had to decline b/c that's a HUGE advantage for Fischer.
@PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD At the end of what day exactly? This week or last week or sometime in 1975? Easy on the cliches, kiddo. No one asked you to rehash Fischer's list of demands. The "concrete reality" is that he was the heavy favorite in a projected match with Karpov. And I was not speculating on anyone's "true intentions" in my post. Try thinking before you write and you may end up having something to contribute.
@Brianjonestown Amusingly hypocritical, considering you wasted your breath bashing cliches after complaining about "having something to contribute."
The "concrete reality" is that Fischer got every demand he wanted and in turn asked for increasingly outrageous ones, ones that would jeopardize a fair match.
At the end of the day (oh no!), you don't get handed a title because of your reputation. Want to prove you're better than Karpov? Play him. It's very simple.
@Brianjonestown would have eateb alive in 1975?no way,it would have been tough game for Bobby after 3 years out against young,well training Karpov,okey?Bob is a genius,my favorite player,but a new era started in chess game with Karpov.
@aleksandrpondios Karpov didn't usher in any new kind of chess. What are you talking about?? Fischer had no style. He was a very careful player. He played what needed to be played. Do you realize it took about twenty years for anyone to reach his rating level?? And that was Kasparov.
@Brianjonestown really very welll said ty for reminding a lot of people that DONT know there history, its also a fact that Bobby was well trained up to take Anatoly on , had they played , Bobby would have carved the young Russian up , Bobbys record still stands unbeaten , so ty for your post
@Brianjonestown Fischer might well have beaten Karpov if he had stayed in practice. But after his victory over Spassky Fischer's friends reported that he was not keeping in practice privately - unlike his previous 18 month voluntary layoff when he had privately kept up his chess practice. Fischer had the chance to play Karpov and settle the issue of who was better. He effectively opted not to and I think the reason is obvious.
Fischer would have probably beaten Karpov easily in 1975, but it would have probably have been closer by the 78-80 period as all chess played decline over time. The sad part is that he was a brilliant player, quite possibly the best ever, and we will never know what he could have achieved if he had kept playing. A sad loss to the game.
@Nyctasia yeah, fischer wouldve won easily in 75, even karpov admitted that. I believe fischer wouldve dominated at least into the mid 80s, which is when a young kasparov emerged. its quite possible karpov wouldve been nothing more than a great challenger during this whole period. interesting to ponder
@Brianjonestown So why didnt fischer play karpov? Can you answer that? Fischer was brilliant yes but he was eccentric, arrogant and least of all he never defended his title... The only world champion never to do so.....
Fischer made a bunch of demands for the '75 defense of his title and didn't meet Karpov after they were unmet. The demands made the winning requirement more of an impost on the challenger and didn't look like the actions of someone who was confident of their superiority.
Then we don't hear from the guy for, what, 20 years?
he is a great player but it doesn't give him the right to judge other people and make fun of them Fischer , Tal, Morphy are the most creative player my personal opinion Kasparov is a machine more than a human who memorized all variation never been interested to see his own games too boring
It could be that Bobby Fisher was mentally ill and he was being persecuted by the American and Israeli Governments. We know his mother was spied on by the CIA when Fisher was a boy. For his eyes to open up to this plot against him would cause even a normal person great stress.
that is true. KGB used all kind of methods to mind control chess players. I believe they did it to Bobby Fischer. and are the reason he gone mentally ill.
Viktor Korchnoi is one of my all-time favourite chess players.
I have always liked his style of play and his use of the Modern (Robatsch) defense. I agree with his approach to the game, which is self-described in Andrew Soltis's underrated book, 'The Art of Defense in Chess' (1975).
Booby Fisher Is not nuts.They are attack dogging him because he got sick and tired of being bit by "God people,MY ASS.Bobby was not an Idiot and knew and saw the jews mass killing Palestinians for over 50 years. What he did was right but It's called payback which cost him just about all he had.
Again, I've heard off all the complaints except the mind control one. The many sources I've read don't mention it. Could you provide your source of information for this claim?
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and this fucking fart does'nt even have the balls the say:"Jews", he speaks about "Jewish people". Old fucking kike, please fuck off, right away, do not infest the name of a genius, you cocksucker.
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outrageous what? Askhenazi, btw, is correct they're not semites, but they originated in the same land and any kamikazze can make himself blow up just because their faces are pretty identic. Same face, same race. Then the askhenazi blood injection made them the filthiest people in the world. In thailand the word for jews is "filthy people" (literal translation),
Korchnoi is one of the greatest and stills wins tournaments and teaches the youngsters good lessons. He also was one of the very very few who did not have a negative overall (3 wins and 3 losses)score against Fischer. The only other player was geller.
@dramas79 Tal had a 4 wins 4 losses and some 10 draws against Fischer too. :P Although if they had played more matches, it'd have been on Fischer's favour, because Tal's 4 wins were when Fischer was young and in the later years, Fischer tended to win.
@ThaAlkaholik13 What the fuck are you saying stupid 13 years old kid.Tal has a clear +2 score against Fischer (+4 =5 -2) Besides Fischer was a quiter and a motherfucking ugly personality
BRAVO dfacusse!!!! You said it all but we, in pervert environnment of political correctness in USA and Western Europe, have inborn self-censorship which is stimulated thru whole our upbringing.
I am 100% sure that Viktor was also a part of soviet establishment. I think its obvious.
I give u one advice. try to see chess a bit differently than basketball and baseball.There are not and never will be inferior and superior grandmasters.its the inspiration of the moment that matters.
The man has the right to be Anti-anything he wants. All people have.
He was perfectly sane, a pure mind, up-front and wasn't afraid to speak his mind. Shame on USA for using the man as a cold war icon and then dropping him out. He has every right to be furious at US. And I think he kinda made fun of Americans in some of his interviews and knew he was going to be taken very seriously. America's disposable hero, that's how he's been treated.
You said it all but we, in pervert environnment of political correctness in USA and Western Europe, have inborn self-censorship which is stimulated thru whole our upbringing.
He's commenting on the fact that when asked if he was an anti-semite, Fischer said he has nothing against Arabs clearly implying that he hates Jews, which is obviously what was meant by the question.
Fischer is an anti-Semite piece of worthless trash and Korchnoi called him on it. He also called him on his bizarre paranoia about Soviet chess. Oh well? Cry me a river.
i know some genius people personally (me too *LOL*), and i would say that fischer is a genius. kortchnoi is not, he is average, and if he would be one of my students (math) i would let it him know indirectly.
Really? That is news to me! He holds a BS in History, but that is all that I could find on him. As a math teacher, I can tell you that the road to a PhD in mathematics is not usually paved with an undergraduate degree in History. LOL
That you are paranoid, troubled, anxious doesn't mean you are not in the right track, it just means you can't handle all the stress resulting from confronting the truth and all the enemies you will foster by being frank, just like Bobby was. May God Keep You in Heaven Bobby! Thanks for all your games and for standing for the truth always!
BRAVO dfacusse!!!! You said it all but we, in pervert environnment of political correctness in USA and Western Europe, have inborn self-censorship which is stimulated thru whole our upbringing.
The only comment that I have to make is that these are the words of a grandmaster who has written a book named ANTICHESS!? I put an !? because Korchnoi if no other should be more sceptical when commenting on plots or however they might call them because of his case vs Karpov.I just cannot understand????
Anatoly Karpov, later World Champion, wrote in his 1991 autobiography that Korchnoi had complained in the Soviet Union, shortly after the 1962 Candidates' event, about not being included in the colluding group of Soviets.
emanemos1 5 months ago
fischer could easily have made an offer to play Karpov had he wanted" there were plenty of backers to put up the money for a match: had Karpov refused Fischer would have called him the coward. He didn't. At bottom he was the coward, look at how then cravenly he comes back to play Spassky for money when it didn't count. If in 92 he dug up that kind break easily he could have done it with Karpov but guess what he didn't want to play deep down
doctornoooo 5 months ago
i think korchnoi broke when he lost to karpov
Migue261 7 months ago
Fisher had nothing left to prove. To himself or to the world. That's why he started playing chess. And that's why he stopped playing. Period.
56richardcory 8 months ago
@56richardcory but he did have something to prove -there was a lot of controversy, psychology & matters that far transcended chess surrounding the Fischer-Spassky match. He needed to hold on to the title for10 yrs, play & defeat Karpov twice while playing at the top of his game in between AS HE HIMSELF said he would (in an interview in the States after his defeat of Spassky he was asked what are yr plans to which he replied i'm gonna play a lot of chess. He let everyone down unfortunately.
AlanWattParrot 8 months ago
I don't think I've ever heard the "coward angle" you put forth here without evidence. Fischer submitted to FIDE a carefully delineated list of 179 demands the rejection of any one of which would result in voluntary forfeiture of his title. As to your vague "friends say he was a lazy shit his prep" etc, all that is known for certain is that Fischer carried on his person the entire Karpov canon of game scores during this period. So if a gutless exit was his plan, why go to all this trouble?
Brianjonestown 9 months ago
I know well Bobby's style,analysed about 50 Bobby's game,you right he was very careful,but Karpov start to work hard with opening game,new chess era was start.Believe me karpov would have had 2800 in the end 1979-1980,but he was playing so mant tournament,never avoided tournament.Garry did it,he was playing 5-7 tournaments per years.I thinke you are agree with me at that point.How day top 15 have 2750 but they are not even close to Bobby/
aleksandrpondios 10 months ago
what a loser, korchnoi!
Beatstranger 11 months ago
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glad to see the idiot thesolipsist1 got banned like he deserved. :)
elmatador404 1 year ago
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@TheSolipsist1 no you don't think for yourself. you follow the herd mentality. you eat up everything your conspiracy theorist buddies write in their discredited books, without pausing to think about why these people are all considered loonies (like yourself). you don't bother checking facts, you'd rather accept the conspiracies morons tell you. Why? Because you've been an outcast all your life, so you cling on to your war cry "against the herd at all costs, even when means against the facts!"
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@TheSolipsist1 lol, I'm arguing with a guy who favorites videos of white people beating up black people, along with videos of underage girls dancing. not to mention your "mind control" and other conspiracy bullshit videos. you are apparently racist, you are also anti-semitic, and you are disturbed. you are also a ignorant by choice and you rewrite history. all the information is there for you to educate yourself, and you *choose* to remain stupid. people like you disgust me. go see a shrink.
elmatador404 1 year ago
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@TheSolipsist1 oh and about meeting online, I'll gladly kick your ass in a few games boy. I'm a chess master and you're not. of course i have no doubt that you'll lie about the result afterwards, since you have no problems lying about history and about an entire group of people, since you have no problems when it comes to rewriting history. but still the knowledge of intellectually kicking your ass yet again, this time over the chessboard, will bring me tremendous satisfaction.
elmatador404 1 year ago
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@TheSolipsist1 a lesson you'll maybe learn in life someday: being in the radical minority does not mean you are right. of course, one CAN be in the minority and right, but it's not a badge of pride to go against the majority for no other reason than that. it's about facts People like Faurisson, Fischer, and yourself are deemed delusional when it comes to history for the simple reason that you ARE delusional. History contradicts you. Your decision to remain ignorant has made your life pathetic.
elmatador404 1 year ago
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@TheSolipsist1 wrong. galileo was one of the people who didn't let blind faith get in the way of reason and facts. you are one of the people whose faith in conspiracies and outright lies gets in the way of historical facts. you have no facts, only a few already discredited names like Faurisson, while countless documentaries, original documents, testimonies, and recorded events *by the nazis themselves* prove you wrong. It is not up for debate. You are the kind of person who ignores reason.
elmatador404 1 year ago
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@TheSolipsist1 buy. a. dictionary. really, it's not hard. someone who is racist against africans and africans alone is still racist, even if he has no problem with african-americans. someone who's anti-semitic against Jews is still anti-semitic, and in fact it is the main usage of the word today as any dictionary or wikipedia look-up will teach you. if someone's anti-semitic against arabs alone they are still anti-semitic. numbers have nothing to do with it. EDUCATION is your friend, ignoramus
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@TheSolipsist1 perhaps it gives you joy to log on with your two dozen dupe accounts to vote down my comments -- after all, it's what someone like you with no social life would be expected to do. I am sorry you haven't ever been loved by anyone. Truly. But it doesn't mean you should take it out through hate and blatant lies. Educate yourself. Until you do, your existence truly makes the world worse. Open your mind, realize that being against the majority does not always mean being right, fool.
elmatador404 1 year ago
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@TheSolipsist1 it's not that you don't go with what the herd does, you just don't go with what reality dictates. there are historical facts that are incontrovertible, and like other conspiracy theorists and delusional so-called "scholars" who get no respect among the established community, you simply choose to ignore them. perhaps it makes you feel special to go "against the 'herd'" even if it means being an idiot, but it doesn't make you smart. on the contrary, it makes you a pathetic boy.
elmatador404 1 year ago
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@TheSolipsist1 say what you want, I am a chess master and am working towards my first IM norm. I understand how delusional morons like yourself are consistently unable to understand facts, but the fact is I am a chess master and have been for well over a decade.
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@TheSolipsist1 there's a reason you'll never be a respected scholar. there's a reason your sphere of influence will never go beyond youtube. t has to do with the fact that you trust conspiracy theorists and liars over extremely well documented historical facts, facts that have been proven time and again for decades.
you are a hateful, stupid little boy. your existence makes the world worse. perhaps you haven't ever been loved. whatever it is, i hope some day you become a decent human being.
elmatador404 1 year ago
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@TheSolipsist1 you are either a liar or incredibly stupid. or both.
i am a chess master and have been for many years. i never knew fischer personally but i've known many who knew him. chess, along with chess history is a huge part of my life. Fischer was paranoid, increasingly so after he forfeited the title, and everyone who knew him acknowledges this. but you are also paranoid. you are more mentally deranged than he was. sadly, you don't have a talent to make up for your insanity.
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@TheSolipsist1 open your mind. i have read enough Faurisson et al, and there's a reason those conspiracy morons don't get any respect among real scholars. the holocaust is one of the best documented events of the 20th century. do yourself a favor and visit the holocaust museum in israel or d.c. or watch any of the countless documentaries, or go read the original nazi records for yourself.
like all conspiracy theorists, your mind is made up and you won't let the facts get in your way. idiot
elmatador404 1 year ago
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@TheSolipsist1 how many times has it been repeated that semites include arabs. yes, genius, i never denied that. you act like it's some kind of revelation. that doesn't change the definition -- the official, accepted, and widespread definition -- of the world. if someone hates jews, as you do, they are anti-semitic. if someone hates arabs they are also anti-semitic, based on the etymology of the word. this idea that it needs to be both is ridiculous. educate yourself, kiddo.
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@TheSolipsist1 ignorant, stupid, hateful, prejudiced liars and conspiracy morons like you are the reason there is so much shit going on in the world. i can only hope it's a stage you'll grow out of when you mature. sadly some people choose to remain uneducated and bigoted their entire lives. good luck in life... you'll need it.
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@TheSolipsist1 I don't have time for uneducated, prejudiced conspiracy theorists. If you really believe this bullshit then I pity you. Goodbye. Go read your "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and continue believing its not a fraud.
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@TheSolipsist1 Fischer was a paranoid anti-semitic crazy guy. outside of chess he was insane. go ahead and believe all of his delusions, but it doesn't change the facts.
elmatador404 1 year ago
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@TheSolipsist1 I see you enjoy this role of "educator" but I know about Korchnoi and the only thing you're right about it why he defected and that he's an intelligent guy. All true. But if by saying he "knows not to say what he really thinks to the media" you mean to imply that he also hates Jews (like Fischer did), then you're even more of an imbecile. Korchnoi is Jewish himself by the way (as was Fischer).
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@TheSolipsist1 yeah, sure Fischer wasn't anti-semitic, saying things like the holocaust never happened or that jews are all liars and cheaters is not anti-semitic in the least.
Moron.
elmatador404 1 year ago
outrageous arabs are semites like jews outrageous...
Semitic (from the Biblical "Shem", Hebrew: שם, translated as "name", Arabic: ساميّ) was first used to refer to a language family of largely Middle Eastern origin, now called the Semitic languages. This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Akkadian, Amharic, ARABIC, Aramaic, Ge'ez, Hebrew, Maltese, Phoenician, Tigre and Tigrinya among others. (wikipedia)
Bobby Fisher could not lie. He knew the truth that was his problem.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
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@slickrickdarula idiot, korchnoi knows that arabs are also semites and even points it out in the interview, he's saying it's outrageous to claim "i'm not anti-semitic because I have nothing against arabs" -- and he's right.
elmatador404 1 year ago
@elmatador404 did I say he did not? All I did was quote the definition of semite. Now according to the definition it is not outrageous to distinguish between anti-semite and anti-jewish. Semite comprise Arabs also, not only Jews: In fact in the ``Semite`` population the Arabs outnumber the Jews many times over. So it is more anti-arab to be anti-semite then it is anti-jewish by definition and numbers. Now if you wish to make the case Fischer was anti-jewish you can, but not anti-semite.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
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@slickrickdarula I suggest you look up the definition of anti-semitism in any established dictionary, or just wikipedia if you're too lazy and learn. Of course Arabs are semites, but one definition (and the primary one) of the term has come to mean prejudice against Jews specifically. It really doesn't matter, he was anti-jewish I don't care what term people use. But Korchnoi was absolutely right, anyway, because he was using the term in the most common way and that is one proper definition
elmatador404 1 year ago
@elmatador404 Well you seem to know for yourself arabs are semites. So I use Anti-Jew to classify someone anti jewish and anti-semite for someone anti semitic. Again I stand by my point: It is not outrageous to claim someone is not an anti-semite when he is not anti-jewish or anti-arab. It can be debated, it can even be controversial for some. But it is not outrageous to follow the real meaning of words.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@elmatador404
You claim: ''korchnoi knows that arabs are also semites"
Again listen to 0:48 ''...Arabs and Jewish people both are called semites: This is outrageous.''
Arabs are semites: nothing outrageous about that. This is the point I was making. If you wish to try and disprove the fact that Arabs are semites: Go right ahead.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
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@slickrickdarula did you even read what I wrote? You don't understand Korchnoi. He is not saying it's ridiculous to call Arabs semites -- he understands this. He's saying it's ridiculous to claim that because he has no problem with Arabs he's not anti-semitic. If someone is prejudiced against Jews OR Arabs he/she is anti-semitic, and certainly the most common definition is when the prejudice is against Jews. Fischer was anti-semitic, and it has nothing to do with his attitude towards arabs.
elmatador404 1 year ago
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@slickrickdarula in other words, Fischer's "defense" that he's not anti-semitic because he has no problems with Arabs is what Korchnoi calls outrageous, and he's exactly right. You don't have to be prejudiced against BOTH Jews and Arabs to be anti-semitic. Look the word up in any dictionary. Look it up on wikipedia. The word has a specific meaning which has been used over and over, and Fischer's "defense" was outrageous. And yes, duh, we know that Arabs are semites too, that's not the point.
elmatador404 1 year ago
@elmatador404 What is outrageous? Not wanting to be falsely labeled something he was not. I am sure he Fischer would not of minded being called Jew hater.
And btw I already posted the wikipedia definiton of Semitic... I guess I will again
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@elmatador404
Semitic (wikipedia)
In linguistics and ethnology, Semitic (from the Biblical "Shem", Hebrew: שם, translated as "name", Arabic: ساميّ) was first used to refer to a language family of largely Middle Eastern origin, now called the Semitic languages. This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Akkadian, Amharic, Arabic, Aramaic, Ge'ez, Hebrew, Maltese, Phoenician, Tigre and Tigrinya among others.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@elmatador404 "Semitic peoples and their languages, in both modern and ancient historic times, have covered a broad area bridging Africa, Western Asia and the Arabian Peninsula. ''
''In a religious context, the term 'Semitic' can refer to the religions associated with the speakers of these languages: thus Judaism, Christianity and Islam are often described as "Semitic religions" "
Again from wikipedia
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@elmatador404
''The term anti-Semitic has been used on occasion to include bigotry against other Semitic-language peoples such as Arabs, but such usage is not widely accepted.''
While I say it it controversial maybe... open for discussion... Wikipedia says it is not widely accepted... but you say outrageous? How outrageous... to use a words etymology. And an outrage to whom?
Was not defense by Fischer btw. Just a clarification.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
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@slickrickdarula i think it's a misunderstanding. what i'm saying, and what i believe Korchnoi is saying, is that it's outrageous for Fischer to pretend he was not anti-semitic because he was ok with Arabs. That's an outrageous defense. If someone's racist against black people, it's not a good defense to say "oh, but I have no problem with black people from Nigeria." Someone prejudiced against Arabs is anti-semitic. Someone prejudiced against Jews is antisemitic. Either way, he is antisemitic.
elmatador404 1 year ago
i would back Bobby against Korchnoi any day
buzzbox2nd 1 year ago
A lot of nutty comments. For God's sakes, it is just a genius talking about another genius.
cpal861 1 year ago
Korchnoi has the most outstanding performance as chess player in the history of the game,whilst others are playing veterans tournaments he's still playing at top tournaments and yet winning em'.
mexchapo 1 year ago
if korchnio was so great, and fischer so laughable, how come fischer was world champion and korchnoi was not?
in 1962 he qualified as a candidate from the 1962 Stockholm Interzonal, scoring 14/22 for a shared 4–5th place finish, as Fischer won. the idiot lauugs now laughs but karpov wrote that korchnoi was asked to, and did, throw his matches to let petrosian face Fischer in the finals.
Commonsense11111 1 year ago
FUCKING CIRCUMCISED JEW WITH A SMALL HEAD!!!
gingowitch 1 year ago
Arabs and Jews ARE both Semites.... what's so outrageous about that?
CE750 1 year ago
@CE750 What Korchnoi felt was outrageous was the fact that Fischer ONLY mentioned Arabs when talking about Semites. He didn't say: "I have nothing against Arabs AND Jews".. he only said: "I have nothing against Arabs!"...
elbay2 1 year ago
@elbay2 Fischer, who as a Jew knew how abused the terms "Anti-semite" is was probably trying to make a political statement. I mean, just like "Because I'm black" is used by every black person who doesn't get a job, "Anti-Semite" is used by ANYONE who dares question Israel, Zionism, or Jewish control of the media and finance..
CE750 1 year ago
That is how Fischer got out of the accusations of being anti-Semitic. Although anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish are believed to be the same thing, strictly speaking, Semites are a racial group, and only about 10% of the world's Jewry are Semites. So when he was accused to being anti-Semitic, he could deny it with absolute sincerity.
tigranvartanovitch 1 year ago 3
@tigranvartanovitch That doesn't really sound much better. That's like me saying "I hate black people but I don't hate Africans."
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 1 year ago
ıf you people call fischer is mad.i am sure you dont know korchnoi well :D:D:D:D
omer131 1 year ago
Fischer was a genius. I just think its sad that he didn't defend his crown and offer the world more master games of chess for posterity. Whatever his beliefs, he should have done the talking over the board using his brilliance in defiance. Alas, he had a self destruct mode hot wired into his soul, maybe some self loathing deep down, or a pain for never having known his real father, and losing his mum so early. RIP Bobby.
liquidplastic62 2 years ago
@liquidplastic62 The irony of it all is that there is some evidence that suggests that his biological father was Jewish; a father he never knew... hmm... wait a minute; maybe it's not THAT ironic!..
elbay2 1 year ago
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exactly my friend that is the point his "personality" was the great reason to win the worldchampionchip..incredible trust himself,high theorical analysis the first to beats the soviet machine(something impossible in those years) he was a brilliant champion,and gave the sport-cience a higher category...like human being,him,you and me we have shadows and lights..the really important is the legacy!!!..
TRUEMAN8919 2 years ago
Sorry, I meant it does NOT detract. My apologies.
BuckshotLaFunke 2 years ago
A poor example indeed, but it does detract from his statement on Fischer.
BuckshotLaFunke 2 years ago
I don't get his point though. Yes, Fischer was against Jews, but I don't think he ever said he was against the whole Semitic ethnicity (which doesn't really mean anything.)
It'd be like someone saying they hate Germans, but since Germans originally came from Scandinavia then that must mean you hate Scandinavia's too. Terrible logic.
MrBamilus 2 years ago
You idiot, do you realize that in countless radio interviews from 1999 to 2008, Bobby Fischer advocated for the death of ALL Jews? Post your email, and I'll send you a link to the interviews. Moron.
iDraw3G 2 years ago
Korchnoi is just pissed because he couldn't win a title.
Fischers anti-Semitism was "outrageous", but so was Korchnoi's views that Karpov and the Russians were using parapsychology on him.
LOL
MrBamilus 2 years ago
I dont like Korchnoi, he's a cocky biatch.
Shoarmaboer20 2 years ago
i'm arab and i like this guy
Morocco go hard
sadcommunity 2 years ago
So angry, did someone slap your mother?
Ducking Spassky until after '69 yes.
Too unstable to handle Karpov in '75 yes.
No superiority over Korchnoi yes.
Read the post again and try to understand.
"imperturbable" Thanks very much for your kind correction!
teverettb 2 years ago
if someone can make look tal like an absolute beginner and refute a sicilian line a team of soviet grandmasters came up than he definetly can beat karpov... to understand fishers strength you have to know he had no1 to learn from all great players were in russia and he still became the greatest, ok karpov played positional stronger than fishers usual buddies but fisher grew stronger the stronger the opponent there was no way karpov could have won
IHATENEDAH 2 years ago
Jews have no right to kill people in order to take their properties especially that according to their book god punished them by sending them to the desert and from there went to different countries. They were never attacked in their kingdom. They left and now they want to kill ethnic clensing and murder christians.
chicagofriends 2 years ago 2
WOW you are a mron!!!!!!!!
TheCalculusMan 2 years ago
The outrageous think Korchnoi was talking about, is not that both Arabs and Jews are considered semites. He even confirms that point by saying it himself. The outrageous thing is that Fischer is using semantics to avoid answering wether he hates Jews.
whateverum 2 years ago
why would anyone dislike jews...
numbcore 2 years ago
No one hates jews but people hate israel . because jews in israel killed thousands in palastine. Their government continue the ethnic clensing and genocide of christians, continue to take over their property. Now israelis are voting for a law to prohibit anyone who is not jew to own or rent a property in israel. every week they send warnings to christians families in jeruselem to tern over their properties. Please watch the fil occupation 101. Jews in israel are evil
chicagofriends 2 years ago 2
Jews created Israel because they were being killed and persecuted. They just took back what was once theirs... Its all history, its all about war, its all about money. They could be yellow with pink dots on their faces and believe in the God of Food they would still want to take back what was theirs once. It has nothing to do with religious beliefs or cultures...
Henrique676 2 years ago
wrong, just wrong lol
Dymdez 2 years ago
Fisher was confronted about being anti-semitic, and instead of unequivocally denying his anti-semitism, he gave a sarcastic reply. The impression that he left was that, yes, he did not like Jews.
ThrasybulusBrig 3 years ago
whats so outragous about arabs and jews being both semitic.thats is a fact
TheSeeker18161 3 years ago 8
see above
ThrasybulusBrig 3 years ago
The fact is he beat the living hell out of every Russian that played him. This fat old Russian can put that in his pipe and smoke it.
ironbob2008 3 years ago
The fact is he beat every Soviet player who already had "been there done that" and become champion. He did not dominate against any of the other top Soviet GMs, namely Geller and Korchnoi. And he was too smart to let himself get squashed by a hungry, unperturbable Karpov. I give him credit for being very pragmatic about his capabilities, finding ways to not finish the candidates cycles in 65 and 68 because Spassky was still on the rise.
teverettb 2 years ago 2
Yeah but Geller has an socre favourable against Fischer :D
Arlekhine 2 years ago
yes thats indeed strange, it were beautiful tactic but to be verry honest fisher was tactically much too strong to go wrong in that he must have been sick or not taken him serious or whatever, maybe geller found a way to make him nervous i dont know but geller was strong nontheless
IHATENEDAH 2 years ago
Total negationist bullshit. Fischer avoided the cycle to duck Spassky?? LOL sure. His difficulties with Soviet players had ended by Sousse 1967. Between then and the 1970 Interzonal he stomped the shit out of Geller, Stein, Ivkov, Smyslov and Taimanov. Then in the Candidates he faced Taimanov and the unbeatable Petrosian and went 12-1-3. The "unperturbable" (not a word) Karpov barely made it past Korchnoi to get to Fischer and he would have been eaten alive. So get your head out of your ass.
Brianjonestown 2 years ago 16
@Brianjonestown sorry man, but between then and 1970 Geller was stomping the shit out of him, he always ahd a problem with Geller.
DavidVIIIcool 1 year ago
@DavidVIIIcool No need to be sorry, MANNNN, but my statement was right on the money. From mid-1968 to 1970 Fischer was inactive. When he returned, no one could touch him. Geller's last victory over Fischer came in '67. Look it up.
Brianjonestown 1 year ago
@Brianjonestown At the end of the day, if we were unbiased, we wouldn't even care what Fischer's true intentions for missing his title defense match was. At the end of the day, it's the concrete realities that matter, not speculation.
You can't award the title to somebody who refused to defend it for whatever reason. FIDE literally gave in to every demand he had, except one requiring the challenger to win by at least TWO games. FIDE had to decline b/c that's a HUGE advantage for Fischer.
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 11 months ago
@PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD At the end of what day exactly? This week or last week or sometime in 1975? Easy on the cliches, kiddo. No one asked you to rehash Fischer's list of demands. The "concrete reality" is that he was the heavy favorite in a projected match with Karpov. And I was not speculating on anyone's "true intentions" in my post. Try thinking before you write and you may end up having something to contribute.
Brianjonestown 11 months ago
@Brianjonestown Amusingly hypocritical, considering you wasted your breath bashing cliches after complaining about "having something to contribute."
The "concrete reality" is that Fischer got every demand he wanted and in turn asked for increasingly outrageous ones, ones that would jeopardize a fair match.
At the end of the day (oh no!), you don't get handed a title because of your reputation. Want to prove you're better than Karpov? Play him. It's very simple.
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 11 months ago
@PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD Again, no one was making this argument. You're charging at an open door. Have fun.
Brianjonestown 11 months ago
@Brianjonestown Cool!
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 11 months ago
@Brianjonestown would have eateb alive in 1975?no way,it would have been tough game for Bobby after 3 years out against young,well training Karpov,okey?Bob is a genius,my favorite player,but a new era started in chess game with Karpov.
aleksandrpondios 10 months ago
@aleksandrpondios Karpov didn't usher in any new kind of chess. What are you talking about?? Fischer had no style. He was a very careful player. He played what needed to be played. Do you realize it took about twenty years for anyone to reach his rating level?? And that was Kasparov.
BKKaye 10 months ago
@Brianjonestown really very welll said ty for reminding a lot of people that DONT know there history, its also a fact that Bobby was well trained up to take Anatoly on , had they played , Bobby would have carved the young Russian up , Bobbys record still stands unbeaten , so ty for your post
buzzbox2nd 9 months ago
@Brianjonestown Fischer might well have beaten Karpov if he had stayed in practice. But after his victory over Spassky Fischer's friends reported that he was not keeping in practice privately - unlike his previous 18 month voluntary layoff when he had privately kept up his chess practice. Fischer had the chance to play Karpov and settle the issue of who was better. He effectively opted not to and I think the reason is obvious.
davidkesslerauthor 9 months ago
@davidkesslerauthor No, the reason is not at all obvious. Could you give it?
Brianjonestown 9 months ago
@Brianjonestown He didn't have any confidence that he could beat Karpov after his three-year layoff. He preferred to quit while he was ahead.
davidkesslerauthor 9 months ago
Fischer would have probably beaten Karpov easily in 1975, but it would have probably have been closer by the 78-80 period as all chess played decline over time. The sad part is that he was a brilliant player, quite possibly the best ever, and we will never know what he could have achieved if he had kept playing. A sad loss to the game.
Nyctasia 7 months ago
@Nyctasia yeah, fischer wouldve won easily in 75, even karpov admitted that. I believe fischer wouldve dominated at least into the mid 80s, which is when a young kasparov emerged. its quite possible karpov wouldve been nothing more than a great challenger during this whole period. interesting to ponder
kevlarunderwear22 6 months ago
@Brianjonestown So why didnt fischer play karpov? Can you answer that? Fischer was brilliant yes but he was eccentric, arrogant and least of all he never defended his title... The only world champion never to do so.....
rat9836771834 6 months ago
@rat9836771834 Gee, perhaps because he was barking mad?
bdrasin 2 weeks ago
Utter, unmitigated crap.
Fischer avoiding Karpov?? I have read practically every book on Fischer. Not even Karpov's own "Child" book claimns such nonsense.
But this isthe internet and anyone can have a (quote) opinion (unquote).
sternumagnum 2 years ago
Doesn't seem too far from what happened.
Fischer made a bunch of demands for the '75 defense of his title and didn't meet Karpov after they were unmet. The demands made the winning requirement more of an impost on the challenger and didn't look like the actions of someone who was confident of their superiority.
Then we don't hear from the guy for, what, 20 years?
padperson 2 years ago
he is a great player but it doesn't give him the right to judge other people and make fun of them Fischer , Tal, Morphy are the most creative player my personal opinion Kasparov is a machine more than a human who memorized all variation never been interested to see his own games too boring
MRZEROO 3 years ago
right, semites are the noble people of arabia not the plump jews of europe.
xonoffx 3 years ago
kornchnoi is dumb and imature he thinks himself to be something but in fact he is the shit itself
MRZEROO 3 years ago
It could be that Bobby Fisher was mentally ill and he was being persecuted by the American and Israeli Governments. We know his mother was spied on by the CIA when Fisher was a boy. For his eyes to open up to this plot against him would cause even a normal person great stress.
artyphax 3 years ago 2
bobby fischer rules and he was right about the zionist people ...
MRZEROO 3 years ago
that is true. KGB used all kind of methods to mind control chess players. I believe they did it to Bobby Fischer. and are the reason he gone mentally ill.
LOVESIMBOL 3 years ago
Lots of antisemitism here.
powpanda 3 years ago
Viktor Korchnoi is one of my all-time favourite chess players.
I have always liked his style of play and his use of the Modern (Robatsch) defense. I agree with his approach to the game, which is self-described in Andrew Soltis's underrated book, 'The Art of Defense in Chess' (1975).
FischerFan 3 years ago
Booby Fisher Is not nuts.They are attack dogging him because he got sick and tired of being bit by "God people,MY ASS.Bobby was not an Idiot and knew and saw the jews mass killing Palestinians for over 50 years. What he did was right but It's called payback which cost him just about all he had.
Sheny1234 3 years ago
Arabs "are" Semites. Encyclopedia It and "see".
He's a lying sac of "excrement". You know we have to walk on razor blades when we speak of the "chosen" people my ass.
Sheny1234 3 years ago
Wind back, he said or joked Arabs then are not Semites?
Sheny1234 3 years ago
Don't you love bull butter
Sheny1234 3 years ago
Dude is old. Old, old. Like light breeze would turn him into dust, old. Damn that's ugly.
RyanDaVanon 3 years ago
Why are all bashing Korchnoi, hes clever, and hes a person in chess that makes chess funny.
furrer08 3 years ago 4
Korchnoi was almost as big a nut as Fischer but no where near as good a chess player.
Ysabellafan 3 years ago
Xerxes Your a fucking idiot, period, no point in elaborating, anyone with half a brain can understand why from that last comment.
BoredonOccasion 3 years ago
Again, I've heard off all the complaints except the mind control one. The many sources I've read don't mention it. Could you provide your source of information for this claim?
Googleguy45 3 years ago
I never heard that complaint before, mind control. But I do know that Korchnoi saw Zukhar as a tremendous distraction.
Googleguy45 3 years ago
He is definitely the strongest for his age but not really humble! He takes loses by younger people really bad.
theoak111 3 years ago
The oldest active grandmaster is from Slovenia dn he is 97 years old. Korchnoi is certainly the best elderly player ever though.
RossM3838 3 years ago 4
How remarkable that some reactions are so violently anti-Jews. It's a sickess of the mind.
I respect Korchnoi and have pity for Fischer, possibly the greatest chess player ever, who was so self destructive in this way.
BuckshotLaFunke 4 years ago
He should retire.
cozinsky 4 years ago
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and this fucking fart does'nt even have the balls the say:"Jews", he speaks about "Jewish people". Old fucking kike, please fuck off, right away, do not infest the name of a genius, you cocksucker.
guiguox 4 years ago
GUIGOX MEANS GAY IN FRENCH.
seka1986 4 years ago 3
AND FRENCH MEANS GAY IN ITALIAN ;)
guiguox 4 years ago
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outrageous what? Askhenazi, btw, is correct they're not semites, but they originated in the same land and any kamikazze can make himself blow up just because their faces are pretty identic. Same face, same race. Then the askhenazi blood injection made them the filthiest people in the world. In thailand the word for jews is "filthy people" (literal translation),
guiguox 4 years ago
So what is korchnoi so outraged about? Bobby is right about Arabs being semites. Ashkenazi Jews are not semites.
bostred99 4 years ago
All Jews are Semites
LOVESIMBOL 3 years ago
Korchnoi is one of the greatest and stills wins tournaments and teaches the youngsters good lessons. He also was one of the very very few who did not have a negative overall (3 wins and 3 losses)score against Fischer. The only other player was geller.
dramas79 4 years ago 10
Korchnoi is a legend, even though he never succeeded in becoming World Champion.
astat1 4 years ago 8
@dramas79 Tal had a 4 wins 4 losses and some 10 draws against Fischer too. :P Although if they had played more matches, it'd have been on Fischer's favour, because Tal's 4 wins were when Fischer was young and in the later years, Fischer tended to win.
ThaAlkaholik13 1 year ago
@ThaAlkaholik13 What the fuck are you saying stupid 13 years old kid.Tal has a clear +2 score against Fischer (+4 =5 -2) Besides Fischer was a quiter and a motherfucking ugly personality
KnightOnE5Square 1 year ago
BRAVO dfacusse!!!! You said it all but we, in pervert environnment of political correctness in USA and Western Europe, have inborn self-censorship which is stimulated thru whole our upbringing.
kozjevime 4 years ago
When talking about Bobby Fischer Korchnoi should be more modest at least, and paying more respect to the person whose talent was and IS far superior.
surfasaur 4 years ago 2
Bobby is God for normal people but for Politically Correct DEGENERATES he is the DEVIL! And Korchnoy is Zionst if you did not know it!
kozjevime 4 years ago
I am 100% sure that Viktor was also a part of soviet establishment. I think its obvious.
I give u one advice. try to see chess a bit differently than basketball and baseball.There are not and never will be inferior and superior grandmasters.its the inspiration of the moment that matters.
japanesexxx 4 years ago
Maybe Korchnoi should have studied Literature, since his knowledge of "irony" is non-existent.
hiwaymanx 4 years ago
bobby is not human, hes a god
dan020350 4 years ago
Bobby is God for normal people but for Politically Correct DEGENERATES he is the DEVIL!
kozjevime 4 years ago
I state again he is Devil and God Combine, in order to satisfy for normal people and degenerates.
I rest my case.
dan020350 4 years ago
The man has the right to be Anti-anything he wants. All people have.
He was perfectly sane, a pure mind, up-front and wasn't afraid to speak his mind. Shame on USA for using the man as a cold war icon and then dropping him out. He has every right to be furious at US. And I think he kinda made fun of Americans in some of his interviews and knew he was going to be taken very seriously. America's disposable hero, that's how he's been treated.
ChildofPluto 4 years ago 3
Bobby is God for normal people but for Politically Correct DEGENERATES he is the DEVIL! And Korchnoy is Zionst if you did not know it!
kozjevime 4 years ago
You said it all but we, in pervert environnment of political correctness in USA and Western Europe, have inborn self-censorship which is stimulated thru whole our upbringing.
kozjevime 4 years ago
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all russians are dirty exploitative mutherfuckers
billybyrne1 4 years ago
Romka1989 ... cough up whatever facts you have that are relevant to what I stated:
1) Korchnoi does not have a PhD in Math
2) Most PhD's in Mathematics did not start out with an undergraduate degree in History.
Chess references:
en[DOT]wikipedia[DOT]org/wiki/List_of_mathematicians_who_studied_chess
web[DOT]usna[DOT]navy[DOT]mil/~wdj/math_chess[DOT]htm
AnEnlightened1 4 years ago
at least Fischer can insult properly :)
AntiBullS 4 years ago 5
Korchnoi knows just like you what semites are.
He's commenting on the fact that when asked if he was an anti-semite, Fischer said he has nothing against Arabs clearly implying that he hates Jews, which is obviously what was meant by the question.
trembleagain 4 years ago 8
It's true, Jews and Arabs are both semites, but antisemitism usually only refers to Jews.
myapari 4 years ago 8
exctly, it shows his knowledge
Ticonio 4 years ago
And many, many other people in the world. The definition has changed. Try to keep up.
NoumenalSoup 4 years ago
This is true
ItalianWarrior777 5 years ago
Fischer is an anti-Semite piece of worthless trash and Korchnoi called him on it. He also called him on his bizarre paranoia about Soviet chess. Oh well? Cry me a river.
NoumenalSoup 5 years ago
A garbage nobody calling a legend a "worthless piece of trash." LOL. Most 'jews' nowadays are NOT 'semites' you fucking worthless piece of SHIT.
Iightra398 4 years ago
Please learn definitions. Jews are Semites thnx u
NoumenalSoup 4 years ago
i know some genius people personally (me too *LOL*), and i would say that fischer is a genius. kortchnoi is not, he is average, and if he would be one of my students (math) i would let it him know indirectly.
nonkeynes 5 years ago
probably you don't know that Victor korchnoi is a mathewmatician, and holds a PHD in mathematics!
maruthanimarutha 5 years ago
Korchnoi would probably be teaching you. He holds a Phd in mathematics.
Darksmile1234 5 years ago
Really? That is news to me! He holds a BS in History, but that is all that I could find on him. As a math teacher, I can tell you that the road to a PhD in mathematics is not usually paved with an undergraduate degree in History. LOL
AnEnlightened1 4 years ago
i think that viktor korchnoi is a grand chess
master, but obviously he isn't very intelligent.
his elocution is very strange somehow resentful,
and he is very impulsive.
this guy is strange. i'm afraid he can't appraise
fischer's personality.
or to say it in a little bit abusive way, his intelligence is obviously not sufficient to appraise
fischer's personality.
nonkeynes 5 years ago
fischer was a genius , he played chess like no one, but his personality is not something to appraise, as genius as he is, he is seriuslly troubled
benjamintorr 5 years ago
That you are paranoid, troubled, anxious doesn't mean you are not in the right track, it just means you can't handle all the stress resulting from confronting the truth and all the enemies you will foster by being frank, just like Bobby was. May God Keep You in Heaven Bobby! Thanks for all your games and for standing for the truth always!
dfacusse 4 years ago
BRAVO dfacusse!!!! You said it all but we, in pervert environnment of political correctness in USA and Western Europe, have inborn self-censorship which is stimulated thru whole our upbringing.
kozjevime 4 years ago
The only comment that I have to make is that these are the words of a grandmaster who has written a book named ANTICHESS!? I put an !? because Korchnoi if no other should be more sceptical when commenting on plots or however they might call them because of his case vs Karpov.I just cannot understand????
theoak111 5 years ago