we are born in sin if u would think ignorance is a sin,
we are wasting energy and resources on a battle so utterly pointless it makes my brain bleed. Christian vs atheist.... nonsense... morality died in the second a being tried to convince another being that its views on the world are correct and everything else is an absurd lie.
Think man, think, that MIGHT be the reason u exist
@legion1a Mmkay... The way you phrased that is a matter of opinion...
Because macro evolution is still a theory, Genesis is historically accurate, our religious faith is founded on Adam and Eve, Jesus is not a pagan god, and we probably have several points, depending on what you're going to argue.
I would like to have an intellectual conversation without snyde remarks and confrontation. Simple express both views with that said I'm not an athiest I'm agnostic..simply because science is proven biblical god is not witch does not undermine the theory of either. I would like to go into detail more with an expert on the matter
Atheism has no "cause". Atheism is a simple thing, we dont believe in any Gods. Thor, no, Cthulhu - really no, Odin - tending to no. FSM - well maybe but No. Thats it. Not much there to discuss actually.
Please... Burden of proof lies on the claim, one book that contains no credible sources is not proof of anything except mankinds extremely inflated ego, we've invented an omnipotent invisible being who's only purpose is to watch and judge us...can you be any more narcisistic than that?
@TheDaniiboy Genesis 11:1-8. Although it only talks about God scattering their languages, I assume since they scattered over the face of the earth, their skin color changed too...
@TheDaniiboy Well honestly because there's not too many other explainations! lol I haven't seen any other verses about it yet, but it could be in there.
I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Hopefully this doesn't sound like trolling, but here goes.
You do realize that Atheists don't have to have evidence right? That blows my mind that people say that. "Prove that God doesn't exist" is kind of a ridiculous statement because the burden of proof is always upon the person making the claim as opposed to the people who say I don't know or I don't believe.
Try proving that the tooth fairy doesn't exist or Santa doesn't exist. It's not easy, but that's because the burden is on the claim
I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I've had my fair share of those too, trust me, I can relate. But something changed for me, in me, one night in January of this year. My whole life changed. And what once I didn't see, I did. I hope for you, this happens for you. Not the same way I was brought to the truth, as I know it. But some way. Thanks for your questions. The fact you are here on this video(& perhaps others?) says to me that you're looking. Thats a good sign. I hope God calls 4 you.=)
So ultimately, its still a personal choice. There seems to be many religions that force others into them, mostly by family members, Mormonism is one. I NEVER took God/Jesus seriously. I grew up wild, self absorbed, & dangerously, in southern California-but for about 4 months of researching something I just happened to come upon in some random way-I discovered Satan. Once that happened I nearly had a breakdown my awareness was so great - & I screamed out to God. Thats the short end of it.
I believe in Jesus. That He is God, was manifest in the flesh, & the Holy Spirit-left behind, which for me, emphasizes my conscience. Where did I get this belief? From a horrific personal experience-then the Bible- which I didnt understand until I read it over & over & finally started to make sense. I recommend this to others- read & read again. Location of birth, as you state, can yes, by family or social tradition direct a person in religion, but I believe a Bible was probably never far away
@13Xanadu How do you know that everyone who has faith in a religion was brain washed from birth or read about it in a book? You don't "know" this. It's a complete assumption on your part, based solely on your personal opinion. You obviously believe yourself to be wiser than you actually are. Don't speak so confidently when you don't speak a fact... You simply to those like me, who believe for other reasons, look like a puffed up idiot.
@13Xanadu yup. atheism is something that exists only as a comparison.
but of course... it's not completely natural for us humans to be logical, and as such "atheism" basically has a meaning in and of itself...cuz we're stupid.
Who is he looking for as a debatant? someone from the youtube community, hence VERY likely a person less educated on this subject than himself. Who is the audience for his radio show? SEVERLY likely more christians than atheists. Whichever kid signs up for this will get unfairly verbally mauled.
What do you think would happen, if any random christian kid were to guest at a radio discussion hosted by Richard Dawkins?
God is as real as Love, is Love real? sure, we feel love for each other, we exist, so love exists, if humans ceased to exist on the planet, would Love remain? obviously not because it was never an actual entity or thing of matter in any sense of reality, rather it was real in our heads, God is the same.
@Munzer1977 Im just curious, this is NOT meant 2offend. If Mohammed was a true prophet, why did some of his predictions not come to pass? (u would know details better than me, though I can google the specifics if need be-which isnt the point ) I respect Muslims, dedication to their faith is commendable-but I sincerely do not believe M' was a profit of God. Not the Creator anyway. Perhaps the god of this world, which the Bible clearly states isnt the creator. Satan 2 can appear an angel of light
@tmlaporte No one knows the unseen except Allah…..Keep reading….you have a long way to go. I respect your genuine intention but I cannot guide you unless you want to be guided. All the knowledge you need is available online for free, watch The Deen Show. Or visit some Islamic sites like Peace TV live, Islam TV, Huda Tv
@tmlaporte Thank you 4your response! (smile) But those too, are simply men. I trust our creator. If anyone was a true profit for them, (God, or Allah), they would not have someone speak for them who's speakings turn out to be false, on any account. I believe our God/Creator is faultless therefore those supposedly speaking for them would also be. This is what makes sense in all aspects of reason. Thanks again 4your response, it goes appreciated, since its been 2 months since your post. Blessings~
..cont. being a person of faith and accepting scientific fact are not mutually exclusive positions. however its a little different with young earth creationists. isn't allowing faith to limit the analytical and reasoning ability that they beleive god gave them a little blasphemous? or to put it another way, if god gave them brains, why wouldnt he want them to use them?
Im not a young earth creationist but I understand their arguement.There is actually no absolute way so far that someone can say "the earth is ___ years old" because all of the dating methods we used either have holes or are created based on assumptions(assumptions that might not be true).Its a very blurry topic.I am a christain, but I do not take everything in the bible literally.God created the world is 6 days, but never mentioned how long a "day" is for him.
@zeratul1356 i've heard that argument before,its one that my friends who actually have faith use. i take no issue with that, the vast majority of christians i know, as i said before, accept evolution and the findings of other sciences. but to say that the earth is only 6000 years old? that dinosaurs lived alongside man,only died out because noah didnt let them onto the ark? or that god put fossils there to test our faith? or the devil for the same reason? laughable.
@lewismclinton ...you say..the vast majority of christians i know, as i said before, accept evolution and the findings of other sciences....Where is your research to back up such a claim.......Just curious if there is some valid proof, not your opinion
@zeratul1356 i've heard that argument before,its one that my friends who actually have faith use. i take no issue with that, the vast majority of christians i know, as i said before, accept evolution and the findings of other sciences. but to say that the earth is only 6000 years old? that dinosaurs lived alongside man,only died out because noah didnt let them onto the ark? or that god put fossils there to test our faith? or the devil for the same reason? laughable.
Dating methods are pretty good, and to prove it, there are various methods which we can use to calibrate each other. Criticism of assumptions is a bit rich coming from soeone who has based his world-view on the assumption that God (the specific Christian God at that) exists, which has never been, and never will be proven.
There is some holes is dating methods.At its roots, it is based on non proven assumptions.In order to claim that god has never been proven, then you need to dis-prove Jesus's ressurection.I have yet to see an athiest come up with a logical answer on how it did not happen.Logically, Christanity should not exist today if Jesus did no come back to life.It should have died like Paganism.So you claiming God has never been proven to be real is irrelevent.Im wasting my time
im a atheist, but i dont have a problem with people who do beleive in god. as long as you live decently and DO NO HARM, then what does it matter what you beleive? i do however take issue with literal creationists. honestly if you think the earth is really 6000 years old, then how do you expect anyone to take you seriously?i know plenty of christians who accept evolution and the earths age and they still have faith in their god. cont...
@SuperMrAtheist, wow, you actually know nothing armor dark matter do you? The reason it's called dark matter is because bu definition it is unobservable. I actually understand the science behind it quite well. I believe that you, like most atheists are wooing to simply take the word of any scientist as long as the do not talk about God. if I had more space here I would love to explain dark matter, seriously.
I don't believe in dark matter, singularities, or m theory. all of which are essential beliefs to explain the universe without God. so, I'll prove God to you, atheists, if you can prove dark matter to me. unless you don't know what that is. which means that your belief in a universe that does not require God is an issue of faith.
@martyswn Well dark matter has already been found. Its been proven. The problem is most people don't understand the science behind finding it so they don't believe it. Scientist can measure the effects gravity has on it. ITs pretty simple stuff once you understand it.
I don't believe in God. I have nothing to prove. I will call out Christians when i believe they make incredulous statements that are not based on fact or any real evidence. Beyond that I have no desire to call a show defending my position. My position needs no defense. Sorry.
I saw Matt Slick at a gym near where I live that I also go to called Genesis gym. He was heavilly flirting with one of the trainers there. He is married and he told the trainer he isn't. The next day I saw him at the gym again. I got there before him and he came in, flirted with the trainer again for nearly an hour and then left. He never touched any of the gym equipment unless you consider the trainer a piece of equipment. Naughty naughty Mr. Slick. You are a married man shame on you!!!!
A saw Matt Slick masturbating while looking at porn in a book store. He was doing it right where many people could see him. He has like a 2 inch penis. It was disgusting.
if y'all want to know extent of knowledge the writers of the Bible had,(earth being flat lol etc.)..well you know the Egyptians & Mayans had mathematical knowledge on par w/ todays,& Jews were the best educated in the mid-east(had ppl work in every controlling cultures highest positions(Joseph in Egypt,,Daniel in Babylonia etc).go see Gerald Schroeders perfect explanation of 1st verses of Genesis & u atheist can just keep mouth closed from then on.-u'll see they knew more than you do now
its not a fair debate since this guy is behind his words asking normal atheists who arent as good in discussing as him and thats gonna make atheists look stupid.
@cykoaudio777 oh your kinda quick with calling alot of people stupid just cause their atheists. what if i said you were stupid for beliveing in a religion? yh you would say it was offensive, so shut up please.
@Mrmcroller "its not a fair debate since this guy is behind his words asking normal atheists who arent as good in discussing as him and thats gonna make atheists look stupid."
It's useless that matt has a debate with atheists, atheism is simply a lack of believe in a deity, you don't need any justification; incredulity is far more than enough.
I was an atheist 30 years before even hearing about big bang and evolution, studying the bible in all my school years exposed the ridiculous nonsense.
The challenge is unfair insomuch as Slick is bound to have more knowledge and experience than his opponent. In principle, it is a very interesting topic, like all metaphysics. How well-founded is atheism and related philosophies? I'm not really done figuring things out. However, I daresay that life is ultimately pointless, and epiphenomenalism the best answer to the mind-body problem. Everything happens by itself, no God interferes, and -- equally noteworthy -- neither do we.
@P3dotme the bible says what? LOL no. Bible talks about thw FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH and END OF THE EARTH and no more than that. Never says "And God made a flat earth". Four cornoers of earth is used to include the whole world and end of earth refers to the further place from a certain point...
@Fantasticlist I meant this statement more in a joking manner not a serious argument. Sorry I should have been more clear on my joking demeanor, although I do have serious doubts about about the "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved." or the fact that the bible claims the earth is a circle. Plus the meanings of those sayings come from the bible therefore cannot be used to defend the bible's use of those words.
@carmvideos Did u really sent this comment to me? At first, I know what an idiomatic idea is, however all idiomatic sentences have a sense. And the sense of the four corners, in anything, is to encompass the whole thing.
At first see the context of what I wrote.
My heart is already with Jesus and thank you for not answer my messages but to come here tell me to make a change ;)
That being said, when someone says "I beleive that god exists no matter what you say" does not mean they are ignorant or have blind faith.I have known some very close people in my life who have said they have heard god talk to them(as in an actual voice).This of course is no debate point but it does show that they have evidence for there beleif.Theres no way they can prove it to you but there is no way you cant prove it to them.Dont be so assuming or judgemental
@zeratul1356 "the only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing".
think about it, you dont know anything when you think about. well if you dont know anything, then you can only assume, adn assume he did and should we all. the guy who means he heard voices from God has no evidence, evidence is proof you can show to others. since he cant, it cant be evidence. anyhow i assume that he was hearing what he wanted to hear. its reason no atheists suddenly say they heard God.
True, Its not evidence(evidence was the wrong word) but still down to the point that you cant disprove it nor can he prove it.And it does not mean he is always ignorant.See, thats an excuse saying "they only hear what they want to hear".And actually, an athiest wont hear god because he has not invited him in his life.Ive always found athiesm arguements shallow tbh because at its core, it relies on excuses like "just a coincidence".That my friend is not logical or rational.
@Mrmcroller i have invited God all my life, and im many different ways. theres few things i would wish then some guy who could make me truly understand this world , someone who could tell me the right things to do. but still it ahs not happened to me. even though im an atheist now i have belived in him, my whole life i have not truly burned for nothing more then the thruth. if God truly exists, i think its been about godamn time he gave us anwsers, since he can and is supposed to be our father.
Thats a very biased, assuming, judgemental and overall BS.I have met many many athiests who spend more time cracking jokes on christainity then actually give any logical points.Does that mean they all do that?No.I too have seen athiests get cornered by logic and cant respond to the question(s).They end up saying "I dont have to prove anything" or "I cant answer that question".It goes completly both ways.Your argument is weak.
I see this video the same way some guy living out in Norway wants me to call in and debate the existence of Norse gods. Why bother? If he really believes that Norse gods really did a lot of things in the world there isn't a damn thing I can say to bring him out of that delusion. By the end of the conversation he'll say he is right because I didn't say anything that (in his mind) invalidated his religion.
I don't care to debate your delusions. I am sure you are very good at what you do on the radio; however, I find it pointless to argue/debate with deluded, closed mind individuals. Having worked in mental health for 30 years, I have learned to let people have their beliefs as long as they are not "a danger to themselves or others".
Atheism has no cause. You can't defend an infallible statement (which God is) either way. However, we must go on what is empirically observable. God is not empirically observable.
@Amarrian As most of us have experienced, many theists are very narrow-minded in their faith in the ultimate infallibility of their doctrine, and out of the open few, even less are humble enough to admit that they might be wrong. We are then left with an insignificant portion of the theistic crowd.
@Amarrian Sucks to encounter that. I am myself an avid debater against creationists and I find results are slightly better (in the sense that it seemingly takes less effort for people to understand your logic) when I debate in real life versus an online debate, though not by much. I think the crux of such debates hinges on the open-mindedness of your opposing debator, if your aim is to convince or at least cast some doubt in his mind.
It's pointless to argue about whether or not there is or was a Creator. It's much more fun to argue about the NATURE of that Creator. Like, for instance, what He wants us not to eat, what we shouldn't be allowed to do with our bodies, what land he gave his chosen people, which direction to pray, What his name is ETC.
with so many religions out there, why don't you first post a challenge to all believers of different gods and once and for all decide amongst yourselves which is the real god if there is any... only then should the winner post a challenge to the atheist community as to its existence...
@Ronniecob40 I have in fact called him up and spoke to him on the issue of abortion/sex education and his views are very victorian and really have no place in today's society.
@huntmatuk Well I Am not sure what your stance is on abortion, but I know most Christians detest it. Children should be allowed to live regardless of what circunstances they were conceived under.
@Ronniecob40 I said with proper sex education and access to contraceptives would lower the unwanted pregnancies considerably. Slick thought that this was akin to teaching kids sexual techniques which I thought was laughable.
Look I would not mind doing it but the truth is that you don't want to have a "friendly debate" to reach an objective conclusion that will persuade you towards truth. You want to debate for the sake of debating and I will not get drawn into that. If theists could prove a god exists outside the realm of faith ok but we all know you cannot back your claims so this is more about reinforcing your faith than seeking truth.
@huntmatuk What's stupid about noah is that God did it to because man were sinners. But then god changes his mind and says "instead of getting rid of man, i'll make every animal go through a population bottleneck and sail around in a boat for a while". There is NO point in noahs ark!
I have no interest in going on your show to discuss stuff that you have looked into to the point that I would look like I am ignorant. No thank you...Where is your god? He does not seem to exist. If MAN ruled humans like GOD rules humans there would be anarchy on every street.
Here is a challenge to all believers in a monotheistic God. What was God doing with itself before "he" created anything including celestial beings? Just a thought, evolutionary scientists believe the earth was formed from cooling dust that was swirlling around the sun as all other planets inicially formed from stardust. Nice talking to you Bye.
@Mayer200 Evolution nevertheless remains a theory. Evolutionary theories remain incapable of explaining the existence of sex, symbiosis, altruisma and various other things. I am stating facts and laws of science then logically concluding that there has to be an uncreated creator. See i dont believe in God for no reason, if there wasn't a logical reason to account for his existence i wouldn't give a shit. You're obviously intelligent i don't understand how you can disagree.
@bendlor You don't seem to understand what a scientific theory is. A scientific theory is not a guess but a proven fact. There is continuing research towards understanding how evolution occurs, but the fact it does occur is well understood in the scientific community. I would like to see your reasoning for belief, I doubt it represents anything resembling proof.
@jerico641 Id say its a lack of beliefe in the evidence of God. The evidence is there and is clear. Its countless historical evidences, its how matter time and space came into being, and alot of other stuff. All you have to do is make the choice to be open minded and be accepting of the evidence, its really not that hard.
Well, if you want to be as precise as possible, it is the lack of belief in a god or gods due to insufficient evidence to support its (their) existence. And I'm sure it would be very easy to join in with the believers, because then all the answers are there; you wouldn't need to investigate anything thoroughly or ponder deep questions about the Universe, the Earth, or ourselves. Just give up rational thought altogether. I don't think so. I'll need some more specific facts, OK?
@jerico641 Ok. Matter cannot be created no destroyed is a LAW. So lets assume the Big bang was real(which i completely diagree with because chaos cannot create order, organization, and patterns). WHAT PROCEEDED IT? The ONLY explanation is an uncreated creator. Now whether you wanna label that God is up to you. Also there are countless historical evidences about prophets etc. The facts are there you just have to be open minded and acknowledge the possibility of a God, really simple.
Again, I'm quite sure it's really simple. And you should maybe check out a cosmology text (or just google The Big Bang); it was more of an expansion of matter and energy, not some big destructive explosion. And what the hell is an "uncreated creator"? You never wonder what might have created this thing of yours? Also, I'll need specific references to those prophets you're talking about, and lastly, my mind is open, I don't just think "god did it" and close up as you are doing.
@jerico641 God, as creator of time, is outside of time. Since therefore He has no beginning in time, He has always existed, so doesn't need a cause. And as for evidence of prophets, you have the old and new testimonies, countless eye witness accounts, and a shitload of other evidences. The Bible would be a good starting point if you wanna explore this.
That's ridiculous! What kind of logical, physical evidence do you have to support THAT conclusion? And btw, using the bible to verify the veracity of the bible is just a little redundant, don't you thiink? Lastly, "countless" eyewitness accounts of what, exactly? If you're talking about the new testament, it was written at least 40 years (at the earliest) after jesus supposedly lived.
@jerico641 It is logical. Cause and affect only apply if there is time. But God, since he is the creator of time, has no beginning in time therefore doesn't require a cause. There couldn't have been an infinite regressions of uncaused causes, there HAS to be a single uncaused cause, or an uncreated creator. Very logical, if you disagree then id like you to logically show be how thats not possible. As for Jesus, there were over 500 eye witnesses and cave carvings etc., proving his existence.
In the first place, how could you possibly know what happens or what applies to what OUTSIDE of time? Now, I'm not asking yout to use trial and error or supposition. I'm asking you what logical proof you can provide that demonstrates that there is a god that lives outside of space/time and has "always" been there. And why does there HAVE to be one uncreated creator? Where are you getting all this? Lastly, where can I verify those eyewitness accounts and "cave carvings"?
@jerico641 I already addressed that point. With all respect, are you stupid? You sound like an intelligent person how can you not get it? Every cause has an affect right? There COULDN'T have been an infinite regressions of causes in our universe, there HAS to be ONE uncaused cause, or an uncreated creator, that started the chain. Perfectly logical. If you disagree, please demonstrate an alternative.
I'm not stupid, but I'm beginning to think that you're a little obtuse. You evidently don't grasp the fact that you are doing nothing but making suppostitions, based on your own intuition. You write things like "there HAS to be" and "there couldn't have been". No one knows for certain how the Universe formed. You're basing your opinion on your desires and a form of cognitive elimination. That's fine to believe, but you have no EVIDENCE to support it, can you see that?
@bendlor You leap so effortlessly from uncaused cause to uncreated creator, breathing life and intelligence into this entity you believe must exist as you do so.
There's an excellent 1 hour science lecture available here on YT called "A universe from nothing" by Lawrence Krauss. Look it up.
@jerico641 As for your second point, you can verify the eye witness accounts in the bible and various other books. You cannot scientifically prove that the events happened or any historical event for that matter, it happened and we have countless preserved accounts from both believers and nonbelievers at that time period. Do your thoughts exists? Yes. Can you prove it? No. Does that mean that they don't exist?
First eliminate the damn bible; who says it's accurate to any degree? Second, can you give me the titles of any of these "other books"? I'm not trying to prove anything scientifically; with regard to an event, I would be happy with just some corroborating testimony of any kind. See, I feel fine stating that the Gettysburg Address was given in 1863, because we have copies of the address, testimony of the event, and even a photograph. See? Oh, and I can articulate my thoughts, btw
Do your homework, Slick. The atheists' only claim is that they reject your theistic claims due to a lack of evidence. it would be foolish to claim that there is no god. Furthermore, atheists don't need to defend their position of not accepting your rhetoric. You need to prove your position already by giving us some reason as to how your TAG argument has anything to do with the leap that you make by claiming that this god is the Judeo-Christian god. Good luck with that one.
@Autumn6 You are wrong. Atheism is the belief that there is no solid evidence for the existence of god, and therefore it is rejected as being true until proven otherwise. It is not logically possible to say there is no god. That would be absurd. You and Slick should get together and do your homework.
@314Aurelius It isnot possible to say there is no GENERIC god, if you refuse to nail down the definition of what god is.
But for all of the major religions, in which they have ascribed specific actions or events to a specifically defined god, it is possible to prove whether those events happened as described, and therefore whether that described god exists.
And the answer is: As defined by all major religions, there IS no god.
@MrHobiecat - Yes, we are in agreement: it is not possible to say that there IS or is NOT a god, whether you want to call it the Judeo-Christian god or a 'generic' god. If you want to start playing with definitions/words regarding 'god,' you will never get anywhere w/your argument, which is fine. It is good to bathe in one's ignorance as to who/what god is, which generally brings us to the conclusion that we know nothing & should dismiss the subject all together. By the way, are you Christian?
@314Aurelius Im not sure we agree.If you define god to be the judeo-christian god, who created the universe 144 generatins before the time of jesus, flooded the earth in 2500BC, scattered all humans from the tower of babel in 2000BC, science has indisputably proven 'that' god does not exist.
Add in the fact that when we die, our awareness and consciousness ceases to exist, and nearly all of the other aspects assigned to that god, do not exist either.
@MrHobiecat - Ahh, we do agree. I am an atheist and an anti-theist. Did you miss the part where I said we should "bathe in our ignorance as to who/what god is....and dismiss the subject [of god] all together."
But, I really encourage you to get your definition of atheism correct & don't let religious institutions define it. We never let Hitler define the Jews as parasites. Let people and groups define themselves. If we definitively say god DOES NOT exist, we are making a claim we can't prove.
@MrHobiecat So you have hard physical evidence that God does not exist ? Thats brilliant :) post it up on utube so we can all see it. Finally someoneone who doesnt just make a scientific theory, hypothesis or philosophy about the problem. We will finally be able to keep the god believers quiet :P
@Solitarious2011 Which version of god do you want to prove is not real? the christian god is easy: Jesus referred to both adam and noah as historic people, and the details of their related stories as real.
There was no adam, there was no flood of noah, the evidence against both is indisputable.
Therefore jesus was no creator/god as the bible claims, how could he have been a god and be wrong about adam and noah?
@314Aurelius: The problem is not is there is or there isn't a God, but that a lot of people believe they are sure because they "know better". History shows the possible consequences of that -- war, rape, racism and "moral values". You should be more contentious before saying "we should dismiss the subject all together". The real subject is the problem I just pointed out...
religion has done more harm to us than anything else -- we are in a religious war in iraq/afganistn..they r against infidels to mo or god or whomever, just like u religious nutters.
Yes 140 million + people, there can be both religious dictators and atheist dictators, im talking about atheist dictators. They do not believe in a God.
Atheism is merely a lack of belief in truth claims about gods in the absence of evidence. That is an entirely rational position to take. As an atheist, I would be prepared to change my position if any evidence for gods could be presented.
I don't really claim to be a religious person, but neither do i claim to be an atheist. It is pretty easy to rip on any religion, and doing so usually shows more ignorance of that religion than anything. But I have yet to hear, or read a good argument FOR atheism. unless tearing apart the minutia of the Koran or Bible or behavior of religious people (who often, along with all of humanity do act like sheep) is a proof of a lack of Divine being, i don't see any proof is there that there is no God
Its always funny to me that youtube is full of comments where people call strangers in cyperspace names (idiots, morons...) and somehow convince themselves that they are superior and right in their assessment of the nature of everything. Hows this then, I am screwed up, you are screwed up. Religion is screwed up, not because God does or does not exist, but cause it has so many damn people involved. I am sorry for the experiences lesliekwan80 and AliG4life have had that make them so hostile
Religion is for idiots who can't think for themselves and need a book to tell them what to do and what to believe. The only thing Christians can show is a book. That is their source of proof. Talking donkeys are real because it says so in the bible. That's what Christians have for proof. I honestly don't know how an intelligent person can believe such things as FACT solely because they read it in a book. Morons.
There is no evidence for an invisible, undetectable, universe-making, wish-granting, mind-reading being who your invisible, undetectable, soul gets to visit if you believe in him when you die.
Hey, Matt, you Slick guy. Where do you get off inviting us atheists to a discussion but first you have to label us as "the lost", right there in your promo. Uh, GO TO HELL.
I am an agnostic atheist. I reject the unsupported proposition of theism, however, I *do not* assert that gods don't exist... therefore I have no "cause" to defend. The burden of proof is on the assertive claim... theism.
@bozzutoman Theres no such thing as an "Agnostic Athiest", your eithier one or the other, its like saying im a Muslim Christian, or an Intellectual Retard.
@daveeco1978 — Incorrect. Gnostic/Agnostic addresses *knowledge*, whereas Theist/Atheist addresses *belief*. I am atheistic because I do not have *belief* in the existence of any deity, and I am agnostic because I do not claim to *know* that deities don't exist... in other words, I don't believe the rumors... but I don't unequivocally know them to be false.
@bozzutoman .... So you lack knowledge of the belief in God, but you are convinced that there is no God altough you lack knowledge. In other words, can you defend your unbelief?
@johnpolanco18 — As I quite clearly indicated earlier, I am NOT *convinced* that gods are factually non-existent creatures. It is merely the rational default position to reject outlandish claims which fail to demonstrate validity in every field of inquiry... so yes, I can aboslutely defend my lack of belief in the unsupported notions of theists.
MARK 16:18
drink poison. put that on youtube
48mmwatch 1 week ago
we are born in sin if u would think ignorance is a sin,
we are wasting energy and resources on a battle so utterly pointless it makes my brain bleed. Christian vs atheist.... nonsense... morality died in the second a being tried to convince another being that its views on the world are correct and everything else is an absurd lie.
Think man, think, that MIGHT be the reason u exist
unknownuser1k9 2 weeks ago
There is nothing to discus.
You are brainwashed and delusional, and the Atheists are right.
Evolution disproves creation.
Genesis is not historically accurate.
There was no Adam and Eve, Talking Snake, or Original Sin.
Without Original Sin, you are not Born Into Sin.
Jesus had no sin to pay for on the cross.
Your religious faith is founded on nothing
Jesus is just the Roman God Mithras, renamed to get converts to Christianity.
You can not have one single point to prove God, because there is none
legion1a 1 month ago
@legion1a Mmkay... The way you phrased that is a matter of opinion...
Because macro evolution is still a theory, Genesis is historically accurate, our religious faith is founded on Adam and Eve, Jesus is not a pagan god, and we probably have several points, depending on what you're going to argue.
dzpisx 4 weeks ago
I would like to have an intellectual conversation without snyde remarks and confrontation. Simple express both views with that said I'm not an athiest I'm agnostic..simply because science is proven biblical god is not witch does not undermine the theory of either. I would like to go into detail more with an expert on the matter
mikeorieng 1 month ago
Using .htm extensions over .html doesn't make you cool.
PoliticalHell 1 month ago
Atheism has no "cause". Atheism is a simple thing, we dont believe in any Gods. Thor, no, Cthulhu - really no, Odin - tending to no. FSM - well maybe but No. Thats it. Not much there to discuss actually.
SqueakerAlpha 1 month ago
hmmm, try The Atheist experiance in Texas. They have a show where you can call in and chat.
SqueakerAlpha 1 month ago
Please... Burden of proof lies on the claim, one book that contains no credible sources is not proof of anything except mankinds extremely inflated ego, we've invented an omnipotent invisible being who's only purpose is to watch and judge us...can you be any more narcisistic than that?
Nizzemancer 1 month ago
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i have a question. if Adam and eve was white and evolution dosnt exist. where does black people come from??
TheDaniiboy 1 month ago
@TheDaniiboy Genesis 11:1-8. Although it only talks about God scattering their languages, I assume since they scattered over the face of the earth, their skin color changed too...
dzpisx 4 weeks ago
@dzpisx there stands nothing about their skins only about their languages.
TheDaniiboy 4 weeks ago
@dzpisx sry XD well if it didnt stand in the holy bible how can u assume it then ?
TheDaniiboy 4 weeks ago
@TheDaniiboy Well honestly because there's not too many other explainations! lol I haven't seen any other verses about it yet, but it could be in there.
dzpisx 4 weeks ago
I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
IsaacSloan 2 months ago
Hopefully this doesn't sound like trolling, but here goes.
You do realize that Atheists don't have to have evidence right? That blows my mind that people say that. "Prove that God doesn't exist" is kind of a ridiculous statement because the burden of proof is always upon the person making the claim as opposed to the people who say I don't know or I don't believe.
Try proving that the tooth fairy doesn't exist or Santa doesn't exist. It's not easy, but that's because the burden is on the claim
ISYEBowler299 2 months ago
I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I've had my fair share of those too, trust me, I can relate. But something changed for me, in me, one night in January of this year. My whole life changed. And what once I didn't see, I did. I hope for you, this happens for you. Not the same way I was brought to the truth, as I know it. But some way. Thanks for your questions. The fact you are here on this video(& perhaps others?) says to me that you're looking. Thats a good sign. I hope God calls 4 you.=)
tmlaporte 2 months ago
So ultimately, its still a personal choice. There seems to be many religions that force others into them, mostly by family members, Mormonism is one. I NEVER took God/Jesus seriously. I grew up wild, self absorbed, & dangerously, in southern California-but for about 4 months of researching something I just happened to come upon in some random way-I discovered Satan. Once that happened I nearly had a breakdown my awareness was so great - & I screamed out to God. Thats the short end of it.
tmlaporte 2 months ago
I believe in Jesus. That He is God, was manifest in the flesh, & the Holy Spirit-left behind, which for me, emphasizes my conscience. Where did I get this belief? From a horrific personal experience-then the Bible- which I didnt understand until I read it over & over & finally started to make sense. I recommend this to others- read & read again. Location of birth, as you state, can yes, by family or social tradition direct a person in religion, but I believe a Bible was probably never far away
tmlaporte 2 months ago
@13Xanadu How do you know that everyone who has faith in a religion was brain washed from birth or read about it in a book? You don't "know" this. It's a complete assumption on your part, based solely on your personal opinion. You obviously believe yourself to be wiser than you actually are. Don't speak so confidently when you don't speak a fact... You simply to those like me, who believe for other reasons, look like a puffed up idiot.
tmlaporte 2 months ago
@13Xanadu this is getting less and less weird
De4sher 2 months ago
@13Xanadu i'm sure some of your friends find that interesting.
De4sher 3 months ago
@13Xanadu not that this hasn't happened to me before, but....dude. i'm on your side.
chillax. i was agreeing with you. don't get all crazy on me dude :)
but yes, atheism only has a meaning as long as a definition external to itself remains (meaning that of supernatural beings).
De4sher 3 months ago
@13Xanadu yup. atheism is something that exists only as a comparison.
but of course... it's not completely natural for us humans to be logical, and as such "atheism" basically has a meaning in and of itself...cuz we're stupid.
De4sher 3 months ago
Oh man... This is a carnivore looking for prey.
Who is he looking for as a debatant? someone from the youtube community, hence VERY likely a person less educated on this subject than himself. Who is the audience for his radio show? SEVERLY likely more christians than atheists. Whichever kid signs up for this will get unfairly verbally mauled.
What do you think would happen, if any random christian kid were to guest at a radio discussion hosted by Richard Dawkins?
Cheap shot, christfag.
DahBjorn 3 months ago
Atheism, being a lack of belief, has no need of defence - the burden of proof is entirely on you.
revjimbob 3 months ago
I like how he refers to "snide comments" in context of atheists calling in. Nothing like a little prejudice to help a discussion along.
TomKaren1994 3 months ago
Oh man, I need to stop watching this guy, he's making me ill.
WorthlessSix 4 months ago
God is as real as Love, is Love real? sure, we feel love for each other, we exist, so love exists, if humans ceased to exist on the planet, would Love remain? obviously not because it was never an actual entity or thing of matter in any sense of reality, rather it was real in our heads, God is the same.
AliTheBrit19 4 months ago
You cannot defend religion with logic
thenofxer 4 months ago
Christianity is just as false as atheism. Islam is the way to go
Munzer1977 4 months ago
@Munzer1977 Wow, way to go. Epic failure.
BlckSbthMan 4 months ago
@Munzer1977 Im just curious, this is NOT meant 2offend. If Mohammed was a true prophet, why did some of his predictions not come to pass? (u would know details better than me, though I can google the specifics if need be-which isnt the point ) I respect Muslims, dedication to their faith is commendable-but I sincerely do not believe M' was a profit of God. Not the Creator anyway. Perhaps the god of this world, which the Bible clearly states isnt the creator. Satan 2 can appear an angel of light
tmlaporte 2 months ago
@tmlaporte No one knows the unseen except Allah…..Keep reading….you have a long way to go. I respect your genuine intention but I cannot guide you unless you want to be guided. All the knowledge you need is available online for free, watch The Deen Show. Or visit some Islamic sites like Peace TV live, Islam TV, Huda Tv
or you tube:
Yusuf Estas, GuideUS.com
Dr. Bilal Philips,
Abdul Raheem Green,
khalid yasin,
Ahmed Deedat,
Islam the empire of faith,
Islamicity dotcom,
many more
Munzer1977 2 months ago
@tmlaporte Thank you 4your response! (smile) But those too, are simply men. I trust our creator. If anyone was a true profit for them, (God, or Allah), they would not have someone speak for them who's speakings turn out to be false, on any account. I believe our God/Creator is faultless therefore those supposedly speaking for them would also be. This is what makes sense in all aspects of reason. Thanks again 4your response, it goes appreciated, since its been 2 months since your post. Blessings~
tmlaporte 2 months ago
@BlizBob
neither is "blizbob"
martyswn 5 months ago
..cont. being a person of faith and accepting scientific fact are not mutually exclusive positions. however its a little different with young earth creationists. isn't allowing faith to limit the analytical and reasoning ability that they beleive god gave them a little blasphemous? or to put it another way, if god gave them brains, why wouldnt he want them to use them?
lewismclinton 5 months ago
@lewismclinton
Im not a young earth creationist but I understand their arguement.There is actually no absolute way so far that someone can say "the earth is ___ years old" because all of the dating methods we used either have holes or are created based on assumptions(assumptions that might not be true).Its a very blurry topic.I am a christain, but I do not take everything in the bible literally.God created the world is 6 days, but never mentioned how long a "day" is for him.
zeratul1356 4 months ago
@zeratul1356 i've heard that argument before,its one that my friends who actually have faith use. i take no issue with that, the vast majority of christians i know, as i said before, accept evolution and the findings of other sciences. but to say that the earth is only 6000 years old? that dinosaurs lived alongside man,only died out because noah didnt let them onto the ark? or that god put fossils there to test our faith? or the devil for the same reason? laughable.
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@lewismclinton ...you say..the vast majority of christians i know, as i said before, accept evolution and the findings of other sciences....Where is your research to back up such a claim.......Just curious if there is some valid proof, not your opinion
shwminist 4 months ago
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@zeratul1356 i've heard that argument before,its one that my friends who actually have faith use. i take no issue with that, the vast majority of christians i know, as i said before, accept evolution and the findings of other sciences. but to say that the earth is only 6000 years old? that dinosaurs lived alongside man,only died out because noah didnt let them onto the ark? or that god put fossils there to test our faith? or the devil for the same reason? laughable.
lewismclinton 4 months ago
@zeratul1356
Dating methods are pretty good, and to prove it, there are various methods which we can use to calibrate each other. Criticism of assumptions is a bit rich coming from soeone who has based his world-view on the assumption that God (the specific Christian God at that) exists, which has never been, and never will be proven.
revjimbob 3 months ago
@revjimbob
There is some holes is dating methods.At its roots, it is based on non proven assumptions.In order to claim that god has never been proven, then you need to dis-prove Jesus's ressurection.I have yet to see an athiest come up with a logical answer on how it did not happen.Logically, Christanity should not exist today if Jesus did no come back to life.It should have died like Paganism.So you claiming God has never been proven to be real is irrelevent.Im wasting my time
zeratul1356 3 months ago
@zeratul1356
I need to disprove Jesus' resurrection? Are you serious?
You disprove that Mohammed rode a flying horse for me first.
"I have yet to see an athiest come up with a logical answer on how it did not happen"
Logical answer - IT IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE.
Yes, you are wasting your time - and mine - you are far too dumb to debate.
revjimbob 3 months ago
im a atheist, but i dont have a problem with people who do beleive in god. as long as you live decently and DO NO HARM, then what does it matter what you beleive? i do however take issue with literal creationists. honestly if you think the earth is really 6000 years old, then how do you expect anyone to take you seriously?i know plenty of christians who accept evolution and the earths age and they still have faith in their god. cont...
lewismclinton 5 months ago
"spelling mistakes"
martyswn 5 months ago
Oh and my apologies for my spring mistakes, I'm trying to learn how to use swype
martyswn 5 months ago
@SuperMrAtheist, wow, you actually know nothing armor dark matter do you? The reason it's called dark matter is because bu definition it is unobservable. I actually understand the science behind it quite well. I believe that you, like most atheists are wooing to simply take the word of any scientist as long as the do not talk about God. if I had more space here I would love to explain dark matter, seriously.
martyswn 5 months ago
I don't believe in dark matter, singularities, or m theory. all of which are essential beliefs to explain the universe without God. so, I'll prove God to you, atheists, if you can prove dark matter to me. unless you don't know what that is. which means that your belief in a universe that does not require God is an issue of faith.
martyswn 5 months ago
@martyswn Well dark matter has already been found. Its been proven. The problem is most people don't understand the science behind finding it so they don't believe it. Scientist can measure the effects gravity has on it. ITs pretty simple stuff once you understand it.
SuperMrAtheist 5 months ago
@martyswn
Stop using capital "g" in god. It's not a name.
BlizBob 5 months ago
here's a challenge for theists. provide evidence for your position. If you can't and go for the "it's just faith" line, then meet occam's razor.
bobtg 5 months ago
anyone who says "logic" and "evidence" in a sentence with "religion" is'nt worth debating with.
DemoraX 6 months ago
@DemoraX well said
boulevardboy 5 months ago
@DemoraX So in other words you don't have a phone?
Diachi26 5 months ago
I don't believe in God. I have nothing to prove. I will call out Christians when i believe they make incredulous statements that are not based on fact or any real evidence. Beyond that I have no desire to call a show defending my position. My position needs no defense. Sorry.
Trips1103 6 months ago
@Trips1103 Well said
RTKFilms 5 months ago
@13Xanadu many people, including me, subscribe to a definition of atheism that is quite different from what you are saying.
indeed, proving a negative is impossible in some cases.
however what a lot of people mean by "atheist" is that they're not a theist.
pretty simple, huh? i know.
De4sher 6 months ago
The trainer was a woman but she was a masculine looking woman.
MrSupernova890 6 months ago
I saw Matt Slick at a gym near where I live that I also go to called Genesis gym. He was heavilly flirting with one of the trainers there. He is married and he told the trainer he isn't. The next day I saw him at the gym again. I got there before him and he came in, flirted with the trainer again for nearly an hour and then left. He never touched any of the gym equipment unless you consider the trainer a piece of equipment. Naughty naughty Mr. Slick. You are a married man shame on you!!!!
MrSupernova890 6 months ago
@MrSupernova890 Was this trainer a man or a woman?
4ingP 6 months ago
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A saw Matt Slick masturbating while looking at porn in a book store. He was doing it right where many people could see him. He has like a 2 inch penis. It was disgusting.
MrSupernova890 6 months ago
if y'all want to know extent of knowledge the writers of the Bible had,(earth being flat lol etc.)..well you know the Egyptians & Mayans had mathematical knowledge on par w/ todays,& Jews were the best educated in the mid-east(had ppl work in every controlling cultures highest positions(Joseph in Egypt,,Daniel in Babylonia etc).go see Gerald Schroeders perfect explanation of 1st verses of Genesis & u atheist can just keep mouth closed from then on.-u'll see they knew more than you do now
cykoaudio777 6 months ago
Why is Jesus flying in a spaceship that looks like a cross?
CenkIsAdorable 6 months ago
its not a fair debate since this guy is behind his words asking normal atheists who arent as good in discussing as him and thats gonna make atheists look stupid.
Mrmcroller 7 months ago
@Mrmcroller atheist don't need ANY help looking stupid..
cykoaudio777 6 months ago
@cykoaudio777 oh your kinda quick with calling alot of people stupid just cause their atheists. what if i said you were stupid for beliveing in a religion? yh you would say it was offensive, so shut up please.
Mrmcroller 6 months ago
@Mrmcroller "its not a fair debate since this guy is behind his words asking normal atheists who arent as good in discussing as him and thats gonna make atheists look stupid."
It's useless that matt has a debate with atheists, atheism is simply a lack of believe in a deity, you don't need any justification; incredulity is far more than enough.
I was an atheist 30 years before even hearing about big bang and evolution, studying the bible in all my school years exposed the ridiculous nonsense.
saintpine 4 months ago
go speak to my man thunderf00t. he will sort you out.
MegaBigMerv 7 months ago
The challenge is unfair insomuch as Slick is bound to have more knowledge and experience than his opponent. In principle, it is a very interesting topic, like all metaphysics. How well-founded is atheism and related philosophies? I'm not really done figuring things out. However, I daresay that life is ultimately pointless, and epiphenomenalism the best answer to the mind-body problem. Everything happens by itself, no God interferes, and -- equally noteworthy -- neither do we.
Drealmful 7 months ago
Note how in the intro the earth is round, however the bible says that its flat.
P3dotme 7 months ago
@P3dotme the bible says what? LOL no. Bible talks about thw FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH and END OF THE EARTH and no more than that. Never says "And God made a flat earth". Four cornoers of earth is used to include the whole world and end of earth refers to the further place from a certain point...
Fantasticlist 7 months ago
@Fantasticlist I meant this statement more in a joking manner not a serious argument. Sorry I should have been more clear on my joking demeanor, although I do have serious doubts about about the "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved." or the fact that the bible claims the earth is a circle. Plus the meanings of those sayings come from the bible therefore cannot be used to defend the bible's use of those words.
P3dotme 7 months ago
@Fantasticlist wow... you are sure profoundly ignorant. four corners is idiomatic, not literal. Do some homework AND some thinking...for a change.
carmvideos 7 months ago
@carmvideos Did u really sent this comment to me? At first, I know what an idiomatic idea is, however all idiomatic sentences have a sense. And the sense of the four corners, in anything, is to encompass the whole thing.
At first see the context of what I wrote.
My heart is already with Jesus and thank you for not answer my messages but to come here tell me to make a change ;)
Fantasticlist 7 months ago
@Amarrian
That being said, when someone says "I beleive that god exists no matter what you say" does not mean they are ignorant or have blind faith.I have known some very close people in my life who have said they have heard god talk to them(as in an actual voice).This of course is no debate point but it does show that they have evidence for there beleif.Theres no way they can prove it to you but there is no way you cant prove it to them.Dont be so assuming or judgemental
zeratul1356 7 months ago
@zeratul1356 "the only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing".
think about it, you dont know anything when you think about. well if you dont know anything, then you can only assume, adn assume he did and should we all. the guy who means he heard voices from God has no evidence, evidence is proof you can show to others. since he cant, it cant be evidence. anyhow i assume that he was hearing what he wanted to hear. its reason no atheists suddenly say they heard God.
Mrmcroller 4 months ago
@Mrmcroller
True, Its not evidence(evidence was the wrong word) but still down to the point that you cant disprove it nor can he prove it.And it does not mean he is always ignorant.See, thats an excuse saying "they only hear what they want to hear".And actually, an athiest wont hear god because he has not invited him in his life.Ive always found athiesm arguements shallow tbh because at its core, it relies on excuses like "just a coincidence".That my friend is not logical or rational.
zeratul1356 4 months ago
@Mrmcroller i have invited God all my life, and im many different ways. theres few things i would wish then some guy who could make me truly understand this world , someone who could tell me the right things to do. but still it ahs not happened to me. even though im an atheist now i have belived in him, my whole life i have not truly burned for nothing more then the thruth. if God truly exists, i think its been about godamn time he gave us anwsers, since he can and is supposed to be our father.
Mrmcroller 4 months ago
@Amarrian
Thats a very biased, assuming, judgemental and overall BS.I have met many many athiests who spend more time cracking jokes on christainity then actually give any logical points.Does that mean they all do that?No.I too have seen athiests get cornered by logic and cant respond to the question(s).They end up saying "I dont have to prove anything" or "I cant answer that question".It goes completly both ways.Your argument is weak.
zeratul1356 7 months ago
I see this video the same way some guy living out in Norway wants me to call in and debate the existence of Norse gods. Why bother? If he really believes that Norse gods really did a lot of things in the world there isn't a damn thing I can say to bring him out of that delusion. By the end of the conversation he'll say he is right because I didn't say anything that (in his mind) invalidated his religion.
dotmadhack 7 months ago
I don't care to debate your delusions. I am sure you are very good at what you do on the radio; however, I find it pointless to argue/debate with deluded, closed mind individuals. Having worked in mental health for 30 years, I have learned to let people have their beliefs as long as they are not "a danger to themselves or others".
rfranklinw1 8 months ago
@rfranklinw1 Atheists only know that. When someone can argue with them, they dont care because they dont care about ignorant and deluded people. lol
Fantasticlist 7 months ago
Atheism has no cause. You can't defend an infallible statement (which God is) either way. However, we must go on what is empirically observable. God is not empirically observable.
skarloeyable 8 months ago
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@Amarrian As most of us have experienced, many theists are very narrow-minded in their faith in the ultimate infallibility of their doctrine, and out of the open few, even less are humble enough to admit that they might be wrong. We are then left with an insignificant portion of the theistic crowd.
ChowMeinChowdown 8 months ago
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ChowMeinChowdown 8 months ago
@Amarrian Sucks to encounter that. I am myself an avid debater against creationists and I find results are slightly better (in the sense that it seemingly takes less effort for people to understand your logic) when I debate in real life versus an online debate, though not by much. I think the crux of such debates hinges on the open-mindedness of your opposing debator, if your aim is to convince or at least cast some doubt in his mind.
ChowMeinChowdown 8 months ago
It's pointless to argue about whether or not there is or was a Creator. It's much more fun to argue about the NATURE of that Creator. Like, for instance, what He wants us not to eat, what we shouldn't be allowed to do with our bodies, what land he gave his chosen people, which direction to pray, What his name is ETC.
How else will we keep all the Wars going?
doireallyneed1 8 months ago
with so many religions out there, why don't you first post a challenge to all believers of different gods and once and for all decide amongst yourselves which is the real god if there is any... only then should the winner post a challenge to the atheist community as to its existence...
i'll even take the challenge if you want.
BReasonable44 8 months ago
I tried calling but I couldn't get through.
I'm from the Faroe Islands if it makes any difference.
Pundead 8 months ago
Slick doesnt debate...he censors and doesnt let anyone finish.
Killer0fTheSun 8 months ago
having been on CARM for a little over a year, I can say that Slick is anything but friendly, in fact he's an utter knob.
huntmatuk 8 months ago
@huntmatuk Well call him up on his show and tell him that, like he said, instead of making comments here.
Ronniecob40 8 months ago
@Ronniecob40 I have in fact called him up and spoke to him on the issue of abortion/sex education and his views are very victorian and really have no place in today's society.
huntmatuk 8 months ago
@huntmatuk Well I Am not sure what your stance is on abortion, but I know most Christians detest it. Children should be allowed to live regardless of what circunstances they were conceived under.
Ronniecob40 8 months ago
@Ronniecob40 I said with proper sex education and access to contraceptives would lower the unwanted pregnancies considerably. Slick thought that this was akin to teaching kids sexual techniques which I thought was laughable.
huntmatuk 8 months ago
Look I would not mind doing it but the truth is that you don't want to have a "friendly debate" to reach an objective conclusion that will persuade you towards truth. You want to debate for the sake of debating and I will not get drawn into that. If theists could prove a god exists outside the realm of faith ok but we all know you cannot back your claims so this is more about reinforcing your faith than seeking truth.
tsunami770 9 months ago
if god hates incest. why did he start the world with 2 people.
TheChemlife 9 months ago
@TheChemlife That is so true!! You also forgot Noah too, as all that was left on Earth then was just his family.
huntmatuk 8 months ago
@huntmatuk What's stupid about noah is that God did it to because man were sinners. But then god changes his mind and says "instead of getting rid of man, i'll make every animal go through a population bottleneck and sail around in a boat for a while". There is NO point in noahs ark!
kly45 8 months ago
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@kly45 It is very very weird.
huntmatuk 8 months ago
Can a person be gay and still enter the gates of heaven?
carinum 9 months ago
I have no interest in going on your show to discuss stuff that you have looked into to the point that I would look like I am ignorant. No thank you...Where is your god? He does not seem to exist. If MAN ruled humans like GOD rules humans there would be anarchy on every street.
Jeffersonwazright 9 months ago
@Jeffersonwazright
To be fair, it wouldn't be anarchy on every street.
It would just be every country being exactly like the Middle-East.
The funny thing is some would argue that the latter is worse. ^_^
Damarcast 8 months ago
Here is a challenge to all believers in a monotheistic God. What was God doing with itself before "he" created anything including celestial beings? Just a thought, evolutionary scientists believe the earth was formed from cooling dust that was swirlling around the sun as all other planets inicially formed from stardust. Nice talking to you Bye.
Mayer200 10 months ago
@Mayer200 Evolution nevertheless remains a theory. Evolutionary theories remain incapable of explaining the existence of sex, symbiosis, altruisma and various other things. I am stating facts and laws of science then logically concluding that there has to be an uncreated creator. See i dont believe in God for no reason, if there wasn't a logical reason to account for his existence i wouldn't give a shit. You're obviously intelligent i don't understand how you can disagree.
bendlor 10 months ago
@bendlor You don't seem to understand what a scientific theory is. A scientific theory is not a guess but a proven fact. There is continuing research towards understanding how evolution occurs, but the fact it does occur is well understood in the scientific community. I would like to see your reasoning for belief, I doubt it represents anything resembling proof.
SammyHales 9 months ago
Are you selling bibles or is just a psychopath making a "friendly invitation"?
strattfordcrass 10 months ago
Most atheists don't have a "cause"; it's not some kind of crusade. It's just a lack of belief in a god. Don't let this guy suck you in.
jerico641 10 months ago
@jerico641 Id say its a lack of beliefe in the evidence of God. The evidence is there and is clear. Its countless historical evidences, its how matter time and space came into being, and alot of other stuff. All you have to do is make the choice to be open minded and be accepting of the evidence, its really not that hard.
bendlor 10 months ago
@bendlor
Well, if you want to be as precise as possible, it is the lack of belief in a god or gods due to insufficient evidence to support its (their) existence. And I'm sure it would be very easy to join in with the believers, because then all the answers are there; you wouldn't need to investigate anything thoroughly or ponder deep questions about the Universe, the Earth, or ourselves. Just give up rational thought altogether. I don't think so. I'll need some more specific facts, OK?
jerico641 10 months ago
@jerico641 Ok. Matter cannot be created no destroyed is a LAW. So lets assume the Big bang was real(which i completely diagree with because chaos cannot create order, organization, and patterns). WHAT PROCEEDED IT? The ONLY explanation is an uncreated creator. Now whether you wanna label that God is up to you. Also there are countless historical evidences about prophets etc. The facts are there you just have to be open minded and acknowledge the possibility of a God, really simple.
bendlor 10 months ago
@bendlor
Again, I'm quite sure it's really simple. And you should maybe check out a cosmology text (or just google The Big Bang); it was more of an expansion of matter and energy, not some big destructive explosion. And what the hell is an "uncreated creator"? You never wonder what might have created this thing of yours? Also, I'll need specific references to those prophets you're talking about, and lastly, my mind is open, I don't just think "god did it" and close up as you are doing.
jerico641 10 months ago
@jerico641 God, as creator of time, is outside of time. Since therefore He has no beginning in time, He has always existed, so doesn't need a cause. And as for evidence of prophets, you have the old and new testimonies, countless eye witness accounts, and a shitload of other evidences. The Bible would be a good starting point if you wanna explore this.
bendlor 10 months ago
@bendlor
That's ridiculous! What kind of logical, physical evidence do you have to support THAT conclusion? And btw, using the bible to verify the veracity of the bible is just a little redundant, don't you thiink? Lastly, "countless" eyewitness accounts of what, exactly? If you're talking about the new testament, it was written at least 40 years (at the earliest) after jesus supposedly lived.
jerico641 10 months ago
@jerico641 It is logical. Cause and affect only apply if there is time. But God, since he is the creator of time, has no beginning in time therefore doesn't require a cause. There couldn't have been an infinite regressions of uncaused causes, there HAS to be a single uncaused cause, or an uncreated creator. Very logical, if you disagree then id like you to logically show be how thats not possible. As for Jesus, there were over 500 eye witnesses and cave carvings etc., proving his existence.
bendlor 10 months ago
@bendlor
In the first place, how could you possibly know what happens or what applies to what OUTSIDE of time? Now, I'm not asking yout to use trial and error or supposition. I'm asking you what logical proof you can provide that demonstrates that there is a god that lives outside of space/time and has "always" been there. And why does there HAVE to be one uncreated creator? Where are you getting all this? Lastly, where can I verify those eyewitness accounts and "cave carvings"?
jerico641 10 months ago
@jerico641 I already addressed that point. With all respect, are you stupid? You sound like an intelligent person how can you not get it? Every cause has an affect right? There COULDN'T have been an infinite regressions of causes in our universe, there HAS to be ONE uncaused cause, or an uncreated creator, that started the chain. Perfectly logical. If you disagree, please demonstrate an alternative.
bendlor 10 months ago
@bendlor
I'm not stupid, but I'm beginning to think that you're a little obtuse. You evidently don't grasp the fact that you are doing nothing but making suppostitions, based on your own intuition. You write things like "there HAS to be" and "there couldn't have been". No one knows for certain how the Universe formed. You're basing your opinion on your desires and a form of cognitive elimination. That's fine to believe, but you have no EVIDENCE to support it, can you see that?
jerico641 10 months ago
@bendlor You leap so effortlessly from uncaused cause to uncreated creator, breathing life and intelligence into this entity you believe must exist as you do so.
There's an excellent 1 hour science lecture available here on YT called "A universe from nothing" by Lawrence Krauss. Look it up.
Griexxt 9 months ago
@jerico641 As for your second point, you can verify the eye witness accounts in the bible and various other books. You cannot scientifically prove that the events happened or any historical event for that matter, it happened and we have countless preserved accounts from both believers and nonbelievers at that time period. Do your thoughts exists? Yes. Can you prove it? No. Does that mean that they don't exist?
bendlor 10 months ago
@bendlor
First eliminate the damn bible; who says it's accurate to any degree? Second, can you give me the titles of any of these "other books"? I'm not trying to prove anything scientifically; with regard to an event, I would be happy with just some corroborating testimony of any kind. See, I feel fine stating that the Gettysburg Address was given in 1863, because we have copies of the address, testimony of the event, and even a photograph. See? Oh, and I can articulate my thoughts, btw
jerico641 10 months ago
Matt SLICK, christian radio talk show host.
What more do we need to say?
MrHobiecat 10 months ago
Atheism is the belief that, based on the available evidence, there is no god.
Agnosticism is the position that there is not enough evidence to decide one way or the other.
MrHobiecat 10 months ago
Do your homework, Slick. The atheists' only claim is that they reject your theistic claims due to a lack of evidence. it would be foolish to claim that there is no god. Furthermore, atheists don't need to defend their position of not accepting your rhetoric. You need to prove your position already by giving us some reason as to how your TAG argument has anything to do with the leap that you make by claiming that this god is the Judeo-Christian god. Good luck with that one.
314Aurelius 11 months ago
@314Aurelius Atheism is the belief that there is no God. Agnosticism is the lack of belief of a God.
Autumn6 11 months ago
@Autumn6 You are wrong. Atheism is the belief that there is no solid evidence for the existence of god, and therefore it is rejected as being true until proven otherwise. It is not logically possible to say there is no god. That would be absurd. You and Slick should get together and do your homework.
314Aurelius 10 months ago
@314Aurelius It isnot possible to say there is no GENERIC god, if you refuse to nail down the definition of what god is.
But for all of the major religions, in which they have ascribed specific actions or events to a specifically defined god, it is possible to prove whether those events happened as described, and therefore whether that described god exists.
And the answer is: As defined by all major religions, there IS no god.
MrHobiecat 10 months ago
@MrHobiecat - Yes, we are in agreement: it is not possible to say that there IS or is NOT a god, whether you want to call it the Judeo-Christian god or a 'generic' god. If you want to start playing with definitions/words regarding 'god,' you will never get anywhere w/your argument, which is fine. It is good to bathe in one's ignorance as to who/what god is, which generally brings us to the conclusion that we know nothing & should dismiss the subject all together. By the way, are you Christian?
314Aurelius 10 months ago
@314Aurelius Im not sure we agree.If you define god to be the judeo-christian god, who created the universe 144 generatins before the time of jesus, flooded the earth in 2500BC, scattered all humans from the tower of babel in 2000BC, science has indisputably proven 'that' god does not exist.
Add in the fact that when we die, our awareness and consciousness ceases to exist, and nearly all of the other aspects assigned to that god, do not exist either.
MrHobiecat 10 months ago
@MrHobiecat - Ahh, we do agree. I am an atheist and an anti-theist. Did you miss the part where I said we should "bathe in our ignorance as to who/what god is....and dismiss the subject [of god] all together."
But, I really encourage you to get your definition of atheism correct & don't let religious institutions define it. We never let Hitler define the Jews as parasites. Let people and groups define themselves. If we definitively say god DOES NOT exist, we are making a claim we can't prove.
314Aurelius 10 months ago
@314Aurelius Which description of god are you not sure about, whether it exists or not?
the Judeo-chritian god of the bible definately does not exist.
The muslim god: definately not
Buddist, hindu, Shinto, native american earth/god...
Do we have to get the list of 1000s of gods from wiki and go through each one?
Lets make it simple, which religious concepts of a creator/god MIGHT be correct?!
MrHobiecat 10 months ago
@MrHobiecat So you have hard physical evidence that God does not exist ? Thats brilliant :) post it up on utube so we can all see it. Finally someoneone who doesnt just make a scientific theory, hypothesis or philosophy about the problem. We will finally be able to keep the god believers quiet :P
Solitarious2011 10 months ago
@Solitarious2011 Which version of god do you want to prove is not real? the christian god is easy: Jesus referred to both adam and noah as historic people, and the details of their related stories as real.
There was no adam, there was no flood of noah, the evidence against both is indisputable.
Therefore jesus was no creator/god as the bible claims, how could he have been a god and be wrong about adam and noah?
MrHobiecat 10 months ago
@314Aurelius: The problem is not is there is or there isn't a God, but that a lot of people believe they are sure because they "know better". History shows the possible consequences of that -- war, rape, racism and "moral values". You should be more contentious before saying "we should dismiss the subject all together". The real subject is the problem I just pointed out...
strattfordcrass 10 months ago
so this vid is a promotional advertisment for a radio show .. cool , you do seem to use the word evidence oddly, but thats ok.
SqueakerAlpha 1 year ago
No need to debate you Slick, Dillahunty put you to shame
bltorioles 1 year ago
What people need to realize is that the war is not about religion. It is about peoples opinions and ideas on religion.
80095 1 year ago
religion has done more harm to us than anything else -- we are in a religious war in iraq/afganistn..they r against infidels to mo or god or whomever, just like u religious nutters.
jerrydoubleu 1 year ago
@jerrydoubleu
Actually atheist dictators and regimes have been responsible for over 140 million murders in recent years.
acceptjesusorburn 1 year ago
@acceptjesusorburn 140 million? really? and aside from you specious number, I think dictators think they r a god, still a religion.
jerrydoubleu 1 year ago
@jerrydoubleu
Yes 140 million + people, there can be both religious dictators and atheist dictators, im talking about atheist dictators. They do not believe in a God.
acceptjesusorburn 1 year ago
@acceptjesusorburn --blah fucking blah...take your sacred god and shove him uo your dead grandmother's cunt.... u just make up shit.
jerrydoubleu 1 year ago
@jerrydoubleu
emo
acceptjesusorburn 1 year ago
@acceptjesusorburn
Liar,
Please remember to suck, not blow.
jerrydoubleu 1 year ago
@jerrydoubleu
yea you might have to show me how that goes.
acceptjesusorburn 1 year ago
@acceptjesusorburn Oh, you're doing fine.
jerrydoubleu 1 year ago
The problem with that is that we don't need to defend our belief :( Because...we don't have any. That's atheism xD.
BigLundi 1 year ago
Atheism is merely a lack of belief in truth claims about gods in the absence of evidence. That is an entirely rational position to take. As an atheist, I would be prepared to change my position if any evidence for gods could be presented.
gedediah 1 year ago
@gedediah That is a healthy position that many "new" atheists don't take. I respect classic atheists.
blamtasticful 1 year ago
Defend Atheism? Another mindless god worshipper speaks.
wowamonn 1 year ago
I don't really claim to be a religious person, but neither do i claim to be an atheist. It is pretty easy to rip on any religion, and doing so usually shows more ignorance of that religion than anything. But I have yet to hear, or read a good argument FOR atheism. unless tearing apart the minutia of the Koran or Bible or behavior of religious people (who often, along with all of humanity do act like sheep) is a proof of a lack of Divine being, i don't see any proof is there that there is no God
ttlovesnow 1 year ago
religion is for sheep! its just more bullshit seperating humans, WE make the world go round not some all powerful being
purplejellyfishable 1 year ago
Its always funny to me that youtube is full of comments where people call strangers in cyperspace names (idiots, morons...) and somehow convince themselves that they are superior and right in their assessment of the nature of everything. Hows this then, I am screwed up, you are screwed up. Religion is screwed up, not because God does or does not exist, but cause it has so many damn people involved. I am sorry for the experiences lesliekwan80 and AliG4life have had that make them so hostile
ttlovesnow 1 year ago
Rejecting unsupported claims requires no justification. Religious claims are all unsupported.
kshackleton 1 year ago
Religions are for morons.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
Religion is for idiots who can't think for themselves and need a book to tell them what to do and what to believe. The only thing Christians can show is a book. That is their source of proof. Talking donkeys are real because it says so in the bible. That's what Christians have for proof. I honestly don't know how an intelligent person can believe such things as FACT solely because they read it in a book. Morons.
lesliekwan80 1 year ago
''I'm gonna see if you can defend your atheism''. Oh, man. He makes me giggle.
AliG4life 1 year ago
There is no evidence for an invisible, undetectable, universe-making, wish-granting, mind-reading being who your invisible, undetectable, soul gets to visit if you believe in him when you die.
End of fucking story.
lesliekwan80 1 year ago
@lesliekwan80 Yep. Too bad the majority of people are gullible dumbasses. Religion must die.
AliG4life 1 year ago
You have no evidence...
you bring nothing to the table...
... and you want to have a debate/discussion?
Do you realize that is a waste of our time?
911SGY 1 year ago
Hey, Matt, you Slick guy. Where do you get off inviting us atheists to a discussion but first you have to label us as "the lost", right there in your promo. Uh, GO TO HELL.
SuperScaramanga 1 year ago
You use the expression "the atheists" instead of just "atheists." Curious.
ClumsyRoot 1 year ago
I am an agnostic atheist. I reject the unsupported proposition of theism, however, I *do not* assert that gods don't exist... therefore I have no "cause" to defend. The burden of proof is on the assertive claim... theism.
bozzutoman 1 year ago
@bozzutoman Theres no such thing as an "Agnostic Athiest", your eithier one or the other, its like saying im a Muslim Christian, or an Intellectual Retard.
daveeco1978 1 year ago
@daveeco1978 — Incorrect. Gnostic/Agnostic addresses *knowledge*, whereas Theist/Atheist addresses *belief*. I am atheistic because I do not have *belief* in the existence of any deity, and I am agnostic because I do not claim to *know* that deities don't exist... in other words, I don't believe the rumors... but I don't unequivocally know them to be false.
bozzutoman 1 year ago
@bozzutoman , Yeah dude, sorry man, had a beer, was bored, thought id do a bit of trolling.......lets just agree on Fence-sitter eh? :)
daveeco1978 1 year ago
@daveeco1978 — LOL... I prefer intellectually undecided... or uncommitted non-omniscient myself... <:D.
bozzutoman 1 year ago
@bozzutoman .... So you lack knowledge of the belief in God, but you are convinced that there is no God altough you lack knowledge. In other words, can you defend your unbelief?
johnpolanco18 1 year ago
@johnpolanco18 — As I quite clearly indicated earlier, I am NOT *convinced* that gods are factually non-existent creatures. It is merely the rational default position to reject outlandish claims which fail to demonstrate validity in every field of inquiry... so yes, I can aboslutely defend my lack of belief in the unsupported notions of theists.
bozzutoman 1 year ago
@bozzutoman Is it fair to say that because of your lack of knowledge you do not know God/gods.
johnpolanco18 1 year ago