Jim Wallis Responds To Dobson's Attacks On Obama's Faith

[pdxpaul1]

by youre defenition then jesus was a marxist read what jesus said not what youre church says

[smile221]

"Fruitcake interpretation of the constitution"? It says separation of church and state right there!!! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[MaryWaterton]

We now know that Dobson was right. Obama is a child of Satan of the most wicked sort.

[LifterwiII]

James Dobson is the LAST person to ever put anyone down for a lack of integrity/credibility. Any number of times Dobson's organizztion FOTF has been exposed as one without any integrity or honesty at all. This old incongruent has been needs to go to the same happy home as Pat Robertson needs to go to. They are both utterly irrelevant

[WhereDidItAllGo7]

Marxism = Poverty, Control, Slavery

The exact thing that Wallis is trying to overcome is exactly what he is creating by his allegiance to Marxist ideology.

[ivaro3]

Dobson is full of you know what. I am a Christian and I have an atheist uncle who pretty much lives by the Golden Rule. Dobson himself says he is not trained in theology and he ought to keep his big mouth shut on things he knows little about. Obama is right in declaring that religious people have no monopoly on morality. Why? Because it is true. Dobson's attitude and disguised arrogance has long been a low common denominator.

[CoolParkourName]

1:02 what christian doesnt

[sudonym100]

Psalm109, that's what Dobson is calling 'the lowest common denominator' - as if the fact that we all agree murder is wrong makes it not worth putting resources into. Apparently the only things he wants to focus on are the divisive issues like abortion.

[CrimeReport]

I'm a right wing pagan, and its shit like this wallis guy that makes me want to feed christians to the lions.

[vaw32]

Is Jim Wallis A fraud?

[mowriter]

Wow, Jimmy. You mean like tying the Bible into patriotism for America? Or harming the poor and rewarding greed? Or are conservative values the only legitimate christian values?

[steveinchelsea]

Oh for the days when politicians can be openly atheist and not have to kow tow to this bs!

[Psalm109verse8]

Murder is a pretty widespread no-no. Mutilated bodies of dead badies are a pretty good example of what abortion really is. You don't have to be a Christian to see that.

[Lochee1000]

PSALM: The mutilated bodies of human beings/civilians in countries where we wage war is also awful. We need the same level of passion and compassion towards humans who are walking and living on the planet as we do the precious unborn.

[Psalm109verse8]

@Lochee1000 The mutilated bodies of 911 were just cause for war - and war is ugly. But we dare not justify the killing of our own children. God will not overlook it.

Millions die at the hands of brutal dictators, and America has come to the aid of many who were victims of their own government. We should be proud, not ashamed, that we have conquered and then paid to rebuild the very buildings we blew up. Yes, mistakes have been made - but we err when we ignore the killing here in the U.S.

[Ebareebaveebeedee]

@Psalm109verse8

Priests shoud not endorse politicians who break the ten comandments regualarly.

[Psalm109verse8]

Obama was born a Muslim. He never renounced his Muslim faith.

[Lochee1000]

PSALM: I've heard Obama say over and over, and over, that he is a Christian and that he has accepted Jesus as his personal savior.

[Psalm109verse8]

@Lochee1000 Along with murdering Christians and Jews, the Koran condones lying to infidels as a means to an end.

Jesus said "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." So Obama cancels the national day of prayer but welcomes Muslims to pray with him. Obama has lied to the American people over and over again. He was born to a Muslim father, attended a church that hosted Farrkhan (sp) as a speaker .....has never renounced his Muslim faith, bows to the Saudi prince....talk is cheap.

[Lochee1000]

PSALM: His father was seperated from Obama's mother when he was only two years old. Little Obama didn't see his father until many years later & didn't spend ANY considerable time with him. By the way, going after the RIGHT persons who caused 911(Pakistan, but NOT Iraq) would have been the RIGHTEOUS & JUST thing in GOD's eyes to do. But apparently, some people don't believe in RIGHTEOUNESS & being JUST....they think they can committ all kinds of crimes against "other" humans and it's ok.

[Aleron20x]

@Psalm109verse8 Do more research on the Quran. Obama was born to an atheist father who was born a Muslim, never was a Muslim and if you didnt know the bowing to the Saudi King was a cultural misunderstanding. If you knew anything about Islam, you would no that Muslims to not bow to other men, not even their Kings.

[amm2623]

Luke 14

[AskWhyNow2day]

Wallis is a two-faced liar.

[demsandlibssuck]

This fool is a liar. The bible says lots of things and Jesus has been misquoted and taken out of context more than anyone in history. You, sir, will be among those on His left that will be sent to eternal punishment. It is fitting that this president counts on him as an advisor. Jackass!

[klg1956]

The Marxists are using "social justice" as a way of steering religious people over to their way of "redistributive wealth" thinking by way of caring and morality....who doesn't want less poor people, especially children, who doesn't want a cleaner planet, who doesn't want health care for everybody but you can't make other people's wealth a target to be redistributed where they want it, because then that's really not charity, is it, that's Marxism.

[AskWhyNow2day]

@klg1956

Leftists are hardly doing what Jesus described for his followers to do. Karl Marx yes.

[amm2623]

@klg1956 Luke 14. Ayn Rand called Christianity the "birthplace of Communism", religious right is an oxymoron.

[SuperDude2569]

Now I don't know which Bible Otis Moss is reading from, but the Bible always refers to the RIGHT as being the way of the wise man, and the left of the fool and a perverse man. Of the terms left and right, left is always in a negative sense and the word right is always in a positive sense.

[SuperDude2569]

The man Obama supposedly prayed with over leaving his last church, Otis Moss, is even more racist and extremely Marxist in his thinking than Jeremiah Wright was. He was Jeremiah Wright's protege. I watched a whole sermon where he talks about the LEFT in bold verbality as being prosperous and the RIGHT as being evil and wicked.

[SuperDude2569]

Anyone else discover the fact that at Trinity Church of Christ (Wright/Obama) Islam is considered another acceptable path to heaven. So wouldn't that make Obama a Muslim?!? Muslims accept Jesus, just not as the Christ. (Jesus Christ is the THE CHRIST & THE LORD OF ALL!!)

[dokemaster]

Jim Wallis is a looney bin. He said this week that the GOSPEL is redistribution of wealth. Oh how he is so far from the truth. Lying to fit his agenda. The Bible warned of people like him.

[tomestubbs]

The Constitution was written by Deists not Christians. Our enlightenment founding fathers believed in religious freedom nbut wanted that wall between Church and State constructed to prevent a theocratic nightmare they witnessed in Britain andtheKing George oif their time. Religion is tyrannical.

[Rockymtntruth]

Religion certainly can be a dangerous thing that's for sure.

[dokemaster]

IF you believe that, go search for the document "the Mayflower Compact." It was the first doc of America. You are mistaken if you believe that.

[tomestubbs]

So what does it have to do with the present constitution? There should be a separation of Church and State to keep nut case fanatics like S & M Dobson. from taking over. What about his friend Christal Methodist Haggard? These bible thumper types want to destroy progress in this country starting with science education and they corrupt the government & the population with their fear mongering backwards beliefs!

[dokemaster]

@tomestubbs for one the Constitution is, not present. You act as if the Constitution is changed. The only thing that has changed is the indivdual(s) corrupting the process. Second, the Constittution was drawn from the Mayflower Compact. You would not know that because progressives taught you.

[dokemaster]

the progressives changed the definition of separation of church & state in 1962 to fit their progressive agenda. Jefferson was writing to the Danbury's Baptist inquiry of the gov't representing their denomination. Jefferson responded with that the gov't cannot choose one denomination over another & after stating that the government cannot represent one denomination over the other said it has to be separated. That is where that statement comes from. It is misinterpreted by the progressives.

[tomestubbs]

For the better! Why would any intelligent person of enlightenment want to deal with a people who R trained to follow authoritarian types. Look at the money trail it's pretty obscene, and Republican Gomorrah, it is a tell all about how fucked up these non-thinkers are. I'll go the direction of Thomas Paign any day compared to these S & M (Crisis and Redemption) types any day. The US has more denominations than any other country. IT's better to accept others than be an asshole.

[Rockymtntruth]

The Fascist James Dobson is an asshole and a creepy old bigot.

[tomestubbs]

You got it right on the money. Dobson moved from Pomona California to Colorado because he does not like people of color. Dobson's influence and abusive patriarchal take on family and religion is revealed in Max Blumenthal's book "Republican Gomorrah," it is a good read.

[Rockymtntruth]

I would like to get a copy of that book. I'll look it up on Amazon. I am very hopeful that the religious stranglehold on our nation is loosening enough that DADT will be repealed this year and that eventually the Perry vs. Schwartzeneggar case will be fairly decided, that marriage equality will thus be the law of the land as a result. I think that case is a true test of the separation between religion and the state.

[tomestubbs]

Dobson is every where in Max Blumenthal's book "Republican Gomorrah." He has too much power and influence.

[daming209]

both democrats and republicans care about social justice, poverty, global warming, moral values. But they do it in a different way. The democrats do it in an unethical way. Social Justice, Traditional moral values, and evangelism are one issues. Jim Wallis a heretic. His theological views are different from the orthodox view of Christianity.

[madilyneh]

@daming209 Republicans have NEVER been on the side of labor... everyday people.

[daming209]

what makes you think most democrats care about the labor everyday people. and Plus of all I'm not a Republican

[madilyneh]

@daming209 name one time., one issue the republicans have sided with labor. democrats are well on the way to serving the highest bidder as well.

[KeeperOfTheWord]

Know who else was a heretic? Not content to make Jesus proclaim Isaiah 61:1-2 fulfilled, Luke has the audacity so to arrange his material as to make Lu 4:18-19 the hermeneutical key to his record! Thankfully, Gnosticism spiritualizes this to preserve earthly powers. The demons in the next periscope (Lu 4:34) get it. Its too soon for Jesus to destroy Satans works. We have no room for an incarnational Jesus. Keep it spiritual where it leaves us alone. Go Gnosticism!

[daming209]

He supports The TNIV which has received many criticism!!!

[whoo689]

We've already lost one idiot fundie (Jerry Falwell). Maybe it's time for a few more to go? Like James Dobson and John Hagee, who are a stain on this great nation. They represent all that is bad in America. None of what they say makes any sense, and their interpretation of the Bible is grossly out-of-step with reality. They only use it to fit with THEIR POLITICAL BELIEFS, not the other way around.  I doubt that many christian conservatives became conservative just b/c of the Bible.

[djm9063]

Jim Wallis is the DEVIL

[thecall4]

LOL. (that IS a joke, right?)

[WilliamFrancisWelsh]

@djm9063 Not quite the devil - just a pawn of his. Jim Wallis is a Bible-butcher. He's an advocate for the poor - that's great - but he dabbles in the bible to try to validate his liberal drivel.

[Silventhal]

Jesus shakes his head @ Dobson

[canadianplanter]

No one who actively promotes fairy tales for a living should have the title "Dr." in front of their name. "Dr." Dobson my ass. He couldn't understand the world around him at a kindergarten level, let alone a doctoral level.

[ColeLite]

This damn Negro makes religious arguments that are adolescent in content.

[00knowitall]

Obama has no GOD. The man supports abortion of the unborned, called murder. Was a Muslem, of course the media denies that. Basically a man and wife who feel that if it does feel good go ahead and do it. What a joke this idiot is.

[music4ever18]

There are terrorists in the christian faith, many hypocrites as well. If what Dr. Dobson says about the eating of shellfish, referred in leviticus, was a dietary restriction for jews, does that mean homosexuality is only wrong for the jews? I believe they are both in leviticus. Dr. Dobson confuses me, I love God, and I love Jesus, but organized religion does not seem to work. Look at the people who bomb abortion clinics for a point, how many of them are christian fundamentalists?

[00knowitall]

Absolutely right music4ever18, I am a GOD fearing man, and cannot really call myself a true Christian because I can't forgive liberals who are trying to destroy this nation by denial of GOD teaching. I'm ready to lock and load along with the 60,000,000 other bible and gun toting conservatives to take our country back. It's time that no liberal should have a voice in this country period.

[MelodiesfromHeaven]

Anybody who believe's that there are many paths to G_D (the G_D of the Holy Bible) and also professes to be a christian.....is a liar. No further discussion is necessary on that subject matter.

[kennebacasiskyle]

How can almost half of Americans be so blind that they think crazy ancient beliefs should inform modern-day politicians AT ALL? You should "pray" that your Pres. is impartial and so will continue to allow you your ignorant crackpot ideas to be protected so the charlatans can continue to get rich convincing you that it is okay if people "choose" to suffer in this life, because if they prostrate themselves before your masochistic, homophobic, mysogynistic deity He will give them life everlasting.

[bigss1221]

eeh, closet muslims proclaiming to be christians... i just dont know..

dobson is a good man, and speaks the truth

[xzrhsb]

Are you The arbiter of who does and who doesnt speak the truth?

[agent2020]

Yeah right. Sure he does. What truth are you talking about? Man made truth?

[bigss1221]

no not man made truths, GOD made truths. yes man did physically write the Bible but it was "God breathed" meaning everything written in it came from God. .. have you accepted Jesus as your savior?.. i hope you have.. b/c its a free gift of forgiveness, your given a second chance of redemption day after day... i really hope you accept the free gift :-}

[bbow73]

Dobson used to be okay, he did a lot of good for humanitarian causes...but now he's like fat Elvis, out of touch and reactionary.

[Keruaran]

I tend to agree... I am grateful for his support for projects like the ESV Bible but his comments here do not seem entirely fair and reasonable.

[00knowitall]

So what's out of touch bbow73 just change the wording of the bible, deny GOD exist as a last resort. You liberals make me sick, you should'nt have a voice in anything that has to do with America. Don't deport the 12 million illegal. Deport the idiots that voted for Obama all 66 million of them. Better yet and for the world bury them.

[madamezora7]

Cheese Whiz and crackers! Apparently Dobson has no idea what the establishment clause means- he asserts that he is genuinely confused as to why Obama says we must make government decisions based on a common morality accessible to all- DUH! Dobson is an unapologetic LIAR, he knows very well, but he makes millions of dollars selling the product called Christian Fundamentalism. It's a shame there are so many willing and stupid buyers.

[BenAliGtor]

"..Dobson is an unapologetic LIAR, he knows very well, but he makes millions of dollars selling the product .."

And stirring up irrational fears about a presidential candidate, particularly an individual of color, will no doubt fill the coffers of Dobson with cash from gullible Evangelical sheeple.

[LShackley]

Ho-hum. Jim Wallis has been beating his tired old lefty drum for decades. Almost as long as Dobson has been throwing his weight around on the other side.

[forecharlee]

Dobson cares only about power (telling the people and the president what to do)and money (hundreds of tax free millions with a trophy mansion and servants galore). If he really believed the Bible he would remember the Eye of the Needle. You poor suckers who just keep sending him money should go see his Taj Majal in Colorado Springs. And check out his buddy Rev Ted ("let me blow some crack up yours") Haggard while you're there.

[Hein122]

i agree with Dobson. i don't know if Obama is muslim, neither do i care. all i see is poor morals and leadership on Obama's part.

[luvmegan]

James Dobson is a sorry sack of sanctimonious snake shit. That fat fucker better remember the 7 deadly sins. Glutny and sloth definitely apply. While I'm thinking about it, James, should we still stone adulterers? What did you get your doctorate in, eating, stupidity or intolerance? God spoke to me today and told me to tell you that he is sorry he forgot to give you a moral compass.

[Keruaran]

I believe his doctorate was in Psychology, not any area of Theology.

[dsa8]

Ever listened to or read the story of the emperor's new clothes?

I wish you all could see that before it's to late

Stop submitting to this deception and stand up for Jesus

Look into 1983 when the same type of trickery was used to kick Jesus out of the school system

Look into the history of violence and educational problems since then

So should the needs of the many submit to the lusts of a few -once again?

[coachfun1987]

Dobson is and has always been a joke and a horse's ass.  Ain't it grand how Dobson always appoints himself as the only one who can translate scripture correctly.

"Confused theology"?? Go back to supporting the mass-murdering Bush White House and picking fights with Sponge Bob Squarepants you fruitcake Dobson.

[simo3300]

I have no concern, as a Christian, in supporting Obama. The church has long ago abandoned it's duty to help those in need in America.

[chainsrgone]

Where do you live that causes you to think the Church has "abandoned it's duty"? How would it make you feel to vote for a guy who not only is PRO-PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION but also stopped a bill to protect babies who survived late-term abortions. Why? Because then he would have to concede that these babies, FULLY OUTSIDE THEIR MOTHER'S WOMBS, with their hearts beating and lungs heaving, were "persons." So how is that helping those "in need"?

[Doogiemd3]

Chainsrgone: You speak out of fear, not out of knowledge. Dobson is chief among the Pharisees and I am confident that Christ would reject his theology. He has claimed the mantle of speaking for all Christians. He does not. He is a child psychologist, not a biblical scholar. Yet, he speaks as if his interpretation of scripture is infallible. Both you and Dobson need to remove the logs from your own eyes before pointing to other's splinters.

[coachfun1987]

Doogie:

Well said and spot-on.

What is all too common are the likes of Dobson, Falwell, Robertson, etc. and their self-proclaimed expertise of right & wrong, biblical & unbiblical. What is more tragic are the followers of these types who cannot think or act in "christian" ways without this misguided leadership.

[chainsrgone]

Oh, yes. You're following the script to the letter. First of all, I'm not speaking for Dobson, I'm speaking for myself. Let me see if I got this. So you don't see a problem with claiming to be for the "little guy" and being FOR partial-birth abortion? And you call ME a hypocrite. Have fun removing that forest from your eye.

[Doogiemd3]

Chainsrgone- Did you even read my post? See that was the problem with Dobson. He either didn't understand Obama's words or deliberately distorted them. I clearly did not say anything about partial birth abortion. In fact, I am pro-life, but believe being pro-life extends beyond the single issue of abortion. I do not claim to speak "the truth," but am guided by Christ's teachings(Matthew 25 etc.) It's not truth that is the problem, it is your mean-spirited, self-righteous and hateful tone.

[chainsrgone]

I read your post. You told me I speak out of "fear not out of knowledge". Well, if I am not telling the truth, then prove it. So where do you get off, Mr. Self-righteous, responding to my comment with something that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said? You had one objective: to be able to "tell someone off", showing your "Christ-like" attitude, while not even responding to anything I said.

[klg1956]

@simo3300 The people as individuals make up the church, not the collective. Americans are the most giving on earth and we are blessed because we give from the heart as individuals, not because we have been mandated to give as a collective; you have abandoned your self. You have been duped because the power is in "we, the people" as individuals we have the power. As a collective someone else has power over you. In a free country, God is the only power over you not gov't or social justice.

[bulldogbell1980]

@simo3300 So who does take care of most of the homeless in America? How has the church forgotten to give the message of Jesus love? It's not the church but the people that let God down.

[glebeholme]

James Dobson is a good reason to become athiest. We can all remember the "good" Christians during the Spanish inquisitions or the "good" Christian's that supported the blanket bombing of "godless" communists in Viet Nam

[chainsrgone]

obama is no more Christian than any atheist I've ever seen. He's just another tool of satan to help this country skip joyfully toward his ultra liberal version of "christianity".

[kelticpete]

last time I heard, saying jesus is your savior and lord makes you a christian. there is no doctrinal test. catholic and pentecostal and mainline dogma conflict

[chainsrgone]

Did you just say that? Saying you're a "Christian" doesn't make you one. Some people only use that as an excuse to twist the Bible to say what they want and still be able to claim the high "moral ground". They twist Christianity to fit their lifestyles and their own personal agendas. Therefore, obama is no more Christian than hitler was.

[Doogiemd3]

Chainsrgone: You are the Christian hypocrite that non-Christians loathe. Who's twisting Christianity to fit their own agenda? You speak out of hate and fear and personal bias, not out of the love that Christ called us to.

[chainsrgone]

Aw, somebody's calling me a hypocrite....again. I find that a lot from people who can't admit the truth so they say I'm "speaking out of hate" to try to debase my argument. All I was doing was speaking the truth. I find that causes a LOT of problems here on youtube.

[chainsrgone]

So tell me, what makes obama "Christian"? That he doesn't believe in personal responsibility and thinks the government is there to play robin hood? That he claims to want to "heal the racial divide" while he spends 20 years listening to a racist, egomaniacal "pastor"? Maybe it's because he claims he doesn't like abortion, then votes AGAINST a bill to allow babies "accidentally" born after a botched abortion attempt to live instead of throwing them in a closet to die.

[chainsrgone]

Or maybe because he wants MAN to redefine what GOD has CLEARLY DEFINED as marriage. Or that he wants us to be dependent on oil from islamic countries instead of drilling for our own.

[nico3641]

Does anyone remember that there has been a separation of church and state?

[chainsrgone]

I remember something about permitting the free exercise of religion and against passing laws to establish a state religion. You know, the ones people like to distort to try to show why nobody in office should have their own beliefs. Or are you referring to the letter from Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists to help assuage them of fears of the STATE getting involved in the CHURCH'S business?

[danouttatown]

oh America, when will you stop being so crazy?