No, Prescott. The world, along with most of Britain, will ignore YOU. And regardless of pride, the NHS is bankrupting Britain, while offering mediocre quality. You may be proud of it, but that's not to say you couldn't have better care at lower costs. I believe that's Hannan's main point, and that's obviously a point that flies way over your head.
Hear fucking hear. I dislike Labour but always thought possitively of Prescott, he started off working class and speaks a lot of sense on issues that affect us. This video proves that.
@MrBloograss The BGS is not the commission and the commision's findings only mentioned problems, you dont specify whether the problems it found can be correlated with the claims of the societty and even then, in only a quarter of hosptials.
People bitch and moan about the NHS , but thing i say is this. British are the most highly trained in the world and they make mistakes , so how many mistakes does a less qualified and trained US nurse make then? Loads!
Bitch all you like about the NHS yankee's but the fact is the NHS is in my opinion one of the best British inventions for 3 centuaries.
Regardless of income or employment status EVERYONE can get free treatment. Cant say the same for the USA can we?!
Prescot doesn't deserve the stick he gets, if a women or a black person wears a suit instead of a dress of traditional African dress respectively it goes without notice, as it should, but when he, a working class Northerner does it he's somehow a traitor to his 'kind'.
Why did you course the winter of discontent in 1979,i ask because this brought in the
worse ever Tory in power, that destroyed all the things that the labour was putting together to help the working man and woman including those to ill to work and all becouse you dident get 10 per cent increes in your money why,you and us are worse of know and if you would have left well alone,the U.S.A woulden't been any problem know,please answear
The money poured in by Labour has been wasted, nearly as many managers as there are nurses, tick box bureaucracy and the mixing of recovering patients with dementia and alzheimers patients on the same wards. I'm not anti-NHS at all i've relied on it all my life, but we need to take the money out of the bureaucratic side of the system and fund more nurses, more special care units and the updating of technology and treatments.
@northnotsouth Although I can't stand all the senior managers bleaching the NHS for £200,000 a year, there does have to be some bureaucracy, if there is none you end up with doctors wasting their time with getting the doors fixed, or matrons checking people's time sheets.
I've heard of some horror stories from America in regard to private healthcare.
People charged 100s of dollars for basic treatment, people being given needless tests; just to rack up the hospital bill. Recommending expensive medication when there are better alternatives, because of pharmaceutical company sponsorship.
It sounds ridiculous, one guy said he got a $1200 bill for using a hospital bed and having medication they could have got £5 over the counter.
He speaks a lot of sense but of course it's up to the Americans. My experience with the NHS is one where I could not commend them higher. I broke my hand and wrist into pieces after an explosion. After two operations and months of physiotherapy I can now not only write my name but am capable of playing my drum kit again. Not once was there any discussion or even a thought about payment or insurance and the NHS staff were nothing short of fantastic. But it's your choice America.
@waynejingo "Not once was there any discussion or even a thought of payment" thank you for making my point for me. NOTHING is free. And every country with a universalized health system (including ones with a better ranking than the UK) is collapsing under debt. It is unsustainable.
The truth about NHS is hidden. NHS is a terrorist organization.
I have worked for NHS now for more than 3 years for the last 2 years I am being harassed by a Consultant called Gareth Owen. I was working in Galn Clwyd Hospital North Wales under Geriatrician Gareth Owen, who seemed impressed by my ability to retain knowledge and use it in clinical context. Curious he and another Geriatrician Greenway decided to break into my house and stole my files and since then I am being harassed.
@sabaafzal11 Yes. Indeed it is. I heard the same story by the potato king. I took my flying carpet there you see, to have a tea party with the fairy's of la-la land.
Consultants abuse their positions and then harass you to make sure you dont spill the truth. They enjoy playing unethical games with their trainee- like single blinded trials. There is no accountability, and you can even get harassed during professional examination like MRCP paces. My home lines are bugged and my mobile phone tapped into. My friends and family harassed. To a point I have been acused of being a member of al Quida.
Nah, it just shows the American right are so aggressive in their tactics and philosophies, that it highlights a moment when even those who hate John Prescott can rally around him. It's not really about John Prescott, it's about the GOP exploiting American fear and ignorance to protect the health insurance industry whose lobbies clearly give the party huge handouts, in exchange for protecting their interests.
They only count people who are seeking work as unemployed. What about the three million plus on incapacity benefit, at least two million of whom have nothing wrong with them.
No it was Thatcher who saved the country from years of socialist misrule. David Cameron isn't right-wing enough but he's sure better than the unelected, autistic freak Brown.
if it wasnt for the NHS i would have a dislocated arm right now, not everyone can afford private health care so the NHS is good for that, so yeah they may be bad in some points, but if you look at it as a whole....it's pretty good.
@JuanMacready He's more of a man than you are, at least he goes out in the fresh air and he's landed a punch on someone. Like him or not, he's got the courage of his convictions. In a civilised society, a statement like that is simply not acceptable.
Prescott is a stupid fat fuck and if he was diagnosed with terminal cancer I would literally cry with happiness. The NHS and the left-wing BBC should both be privatised at once.
Scary that such a stupid dumb fucking prick could be Deputy PM for ten years. At least the stupid fat freak has nothing now. I will celebrate his death.
@JuanMacready He's got more than you, hasn't he? In terms of property, at least. It's just sour grapes from you, isn't it? Sour grapes from a Tory twat. Go and wank yourself silly fantasizing about power in a pair of fishnets and suspenders, that's Tory form.
@JuanMacready Well, that's another story. What I'm saying is that he had the gumption to go into politics in the first place for honest reasons and he's done more the working class than you're ever likely to do, given your Tory leanings. You know, if I could, I would love to nail you to a crucifix.
Yes, I suggest you have another look at his record as Deputy Prime Minister and you will find he did more Conservative work than Thatcher/Major ever did.
Go to France if you want to see proper public health care, NHS is terrible If I hadn't turned to private health insurance I would of gone blind in an eye... My impression is that people who are not ill and know nothin about the NHS are the one's who support these labour goons..
@kinyo04 Dickhead. Everyone's come into contact with the NHS at least once in their lives, you can't say that no one knows anything about the NHS. Don't be so fucking biased.
@thefltdriver just because I disagree with you or have a different opinion than you doesn't justify calling me a "dickhead", Additional I stick by what I say that people who bang about about labour's good job about the NHS haven't gone abroad where comparatively speaking, spending is the same yet the services are more efficient and far less bureaucratic... it's easy to spend money however it's far harder to do the necessary structural reforms to make that money "work".
@kinyo04 Well yeah, we all know there's room for improvement, the trouble is dickheads who say that it's shit, just because it's nationalised. It can be done properly but it doesn't invalidate the principle just because the implementation isn't perfect. Let's not fight. <2
Well said, Mr Prescott. Daniel Hannan MEP must have US political ambitions because no UK mainstream politician with serious career aspirations would dare criticise the NHS.
If the NHS were as bad as Hannan says, why do 99% of Brits support it?
@whereitsat309 You express yourself robustly! But I don't disagree with the underlying sentiment of your character assessment of Hannan, who should relocate to the USA and take his chances with their public healthcare system if he feels so threatened by the NHS.
When you become dependent on a system, of course you are afraid of what will happen without it. This is particularly true when you have never known anything else. If you have had enormous chunks of your income taken from you, you understandably want that money back. That's why it's supported.
@hpd929 With all due respect, the "junkie / dependency" argument against the NHS doesn't quite cut it. There is also a humanitarian side to the NHS that deeply appeals to the best side of human nature, on all sides of the political spectrum (don't forget that the NHS is also popular with fiscal conservatives). But your financial argument is also wrong because the government provides healthcare more cheaply than the private sector can, hence it takes less of GDP than in the States.
@hpd929 I would also point out, obviously, that your argument that "When you become dependent on a system, of course you are afraid of what will happen without it", could also apply to US conservatives! They (you?) seem unhealthily attached to the simplistic "private = good, public = bad" argument which has left you with the world's most expensive and inefficient healthcare (amongst other things). No kind of model for the rest of the world!
@SIXITHS If one HAS insurance in the US, American health care is VERY good, but as a good percentage of people DON'T have ANY kind of insurance or health care, it's on average not so great. People die because of relatively treatable illnesses (like high blood pressure) are taken rather lightly because they can't afford to go to the doctor to find out how serious their condition might be. (Such diseases are called "silent killers".)
@0011GB Bad source, bad numbers and obviously wrong. First of all, you cannot judge all of America under one. Second of all, Singapore beats both France and Italy's care, easily. Also, Italy is far from #2 in the world.
And how can you really believe numbers that place USA's health care below Chile's healthcare? USA have among the most high tech equipment in their hospitals per patient, have among the best special care in the world and is by far world leading in medical innovation.
@toeblarone - 86% still sounds like a majority. And out of the remaining 14%, do you think it's BUPA's ambulances that'll come running when they're in a car accident or a house fire?
Because they don't know anything else, here's a Brit living abroad having experienced other systems and the UK system and I can tell you the UK system sucks.
No politician will usually say anything because the NHS is now the 3rd largest employer in the world, after the Chinese Army and the Indian Railway, so that's a lot of votes, the NHS also now holds large political sway now.
@Iain1962 - I wouldn't go so far as to say that the NHS is the world's best state healthcare. That honour should probably go to the French, Germans or Scandinavians. Obviously there is room for improvement. But all-in-all the NHS does a good job and consumes less of GDP than the US model. As for standards, to say that the NHS "sucks" certainly doesn't match my own experience, or my friends' / relatives'. Just speak with somebody who was working-class in the 1930s, before the NHS!
My Dad in Glasgow had a stroke, they put him in a cupboard to die, when I arrived to visit him from abroad, he had sores on his tounge because they had not even given him water.
My mother had a problem she had to wait over a year to see a specialist and was told if she took independant action in the meantime she would lose her "rights".
My Dad was born in 1915, he paid his whole life to die in a cupboard.
@Iain1962 - That must have been a horrible experience for all concerned, and I sympathise. But you have to look at the general picture, not just the personal. To suggest that the majority who have a positive experience of the NHS have only suffered from minor ailments and / or "don't have anything to compare [the NHS] with" (BUPA?) is a tad unfair. There are pockets of excellence as well as mediocrity. Genuine query: are you totally opposed to the idea of socialised medicine?
@londonscot1 Well not entirely there should be a safety net, but I am against socialised anything. Socialism forces everything down to the LCD nobody really benefits except the government, and it makes people anti-social because they expect the state to look after them. When I was young people helped each other, these days if there is a problem people call 999 and wait for the "authorities".
@Iain1962 - I agree with you to the extent that the state shouldn't featherbed / cosset the workshy, or reduce their self-reliance. Surely it's a question of getting the right balance between capitalism and socialism? For example, Sweden. Their social welfare system is much more generous than Britain's, and their taxation / GDP much higher, but they have a strong private sector and an egalitarian society. The Economist magazine last week rated it one of the easiest places to start a business.
@Iain1962 - If you support a "safety net", I would respectfully suggest that you already partly accept some kind of regulation of the free market. As for "people helping each other", the cheapest way of doing so, in the case of healthcare, is for the government to act as a "bulk buyer" of medical services. Who else but government can take on big business and (as in the USA) enforce environmental laws, food safety regulation etc? Big business can't be expected to regulate itself!
Well Sweden isn't exactly in the best shape, I have a friend there who was recently denied a job because theUnion didn't approve his application...Can you imagine a union refuses somebody work when both employer and candidate are up for it...
Taxes are incredibly high, things you take for granted like buying a bottle of wine are not that easy, you have to go to govt controlled shops and they have massive immigration problems.
@Iain1962 - Sweden isn't perfect but my brothers live there and, as high tax-paying trade union members, would benefit from social security payouts that you could actually realistically live on (as opposed to the UK's £65 a week, which I endured for 4 months last year). Trade unions and employers cooperate rather well. Same in Germany. Hence they coped with Euro appreciation by INCREASING German exports.... As for the Swedish alco-shops. It doesn't seem to blunt their boozing!
When I say safety net I mean there should be fire services and ambulance services, and nobody should be denied care, if you run a medical business that should be part of the charter, if the person can't pay then charity or some govt subsidy should kick in or they should work pro bono, everyone has a duty in their profession, I just don;t think it is Govt's job to control that.
As to taking on big business, well I think the problem is the inverse, these massive government run schemes encourage the governement to "get into bed" with big business, if the govt. just did the job it's supposed to do and be referee, and left the playing field open, I think we would have a better game because right now the govt is the ref and also a player on one of the teams, and if you are not in that team, tough cookie.
You know all these "authorities" maybe you are a small innovator who has produced a new product, but the testing and authorising rules preclude you from getting your perhaps revolutionary product to market because you have to spend millions before you can even begin to market it, so who do these laws benefit?
Yes there will be cranks but they won't last long, reality catches up with conmen pretty fast, if you allow freedom the cream rises to the top.
Just to add that I think everything is better run when the govt is out of the way. Govt encourages waste and corrupotion, central planning has never worked, the very fact the NHS has queues is exactly what happens when the govt is involved.
Can you imagine waiting 9 months for a new mobile phone if you want one, but if you need a life saving operation 9 months is a fair wait, imagine if private enterprise was involved and saw a 9 month wait... There would be new services opening up in weeks..
@Iain1962 - Well, I agree about the safety net but I think we'll have to disagree re: the extent of government control. There isn't a Western industrialised country that doesn't have state involvement on healthcare to some extent, usually with considerable success. Of course it would be madness for civil servants to be taking medical decisions but the UK experience is that commercialisation of the NHS, via PFI, has been just as bad in many ways....... Whoever heard of MRSA before?!
@londonscot1 Well that's the trouble if you take something that has been nationalised and half privatise it, you end up with two bossess pulling at the same rope for once again no gain to the patient, or customer if you compare it to the rail network where they have tinkered around the edges as well.
Just because lots of countries have it doesn't mean it's the only solution, we all have privately owned central banks and that's about the worst thing possible.
If it had never been nationalised in the first place it would be a whole different picture today, just look at the record of Beveridge and Attlee's 1940' s nationalisation, every single industry they nationlalised is now dust... except the health service. Steel, gone, British Leyland, gone, British Coal, gone, British Rail, gone, shipbuilding, gone etc etc... they took the industry and ran it into the ground and then blame the private sector for trying to make it work again...
@Iain1962 - State control of industry worked OK in WWII. Can't say I agree 100% with your analysis of 1940s nationalisation though. The causes of those industries' decline were various, e.g. rotten / complacent management, greedy trade unions, comparative advantage of Germany / Japan, loss of British Empire markets etc. State ownership wasn't always the prime culprit, although i agree, on the whole, that Whitehall bureaucrats aren't the best people to be making commercial decisions!
@londonscot1 In a war there is no choice. That's why governments like them so much.
The British Shipbuilding industry and navy was the biggest and best in the world until the 1940's, the problem when a govt takes over a business is that the management vision changes with each election, and they cannot take "risks" because that would be seen as playing with the taxpayer's money, so all they can do is maintain it as it was when they took it over, and so other countries get ahead..
@Iain1962 - I am going to suggest that big business also, occasionally, does well in wartime! Remember "the military-industrial complex" (Eisenhower, 1959)?!
UK shipbuilding is a sad story of trade union militancy, management ineptitude, and, of course, cheap competition from the Third World. There are one or two good yards left in the UK, though, so the labour force and management must be OK these days! Provided the government keeps bunging them defence contracts, of course.....
@Iain1962 - What also needs to be remembered is that the railways and coal industry were effectively bankrupt even before WWII, which was another reason for them being taken into public ownership. And of course the railways are still with us, benefiting from public subsidy! What is the UK's biggest economic success story? Arguably, it's the defence industry, which gets billions of state subsidy, e.g. ECGD. Even Thatcher made an exception for the arms trade!
Well the railways are still with us so is British Airways, that used to be private too (BEA BOAC, etc) But they have all been privatised again in order to survive.
It's clear anything run by govt fails in the end, it might last a few generations, but the lack of innovation and the corruption that becomes a part of the "system" inevitable leads to decay, they only way to advance anything is to have some kind of profit motive as a driving force for excellence.
@Iain1962 - Actually i agree with you that the government shouldn't be taking microeconomic decisions. But consider this. The Chinese and other governments are expanding state ownership. The Economist recently referred to resurgent state capitalism as "Leviathan Incorporated". The emerging markets governments aren't embracing a 100% free-market ioeology. They are trying to buck the market, same as Britain did in the 19th century, when the playing-field could be gently tilted in our favour!
@Iain1962 - I agree that a one-size-fits-all solution (e.g. for central banks) is probably a bad idea. For example, it was the follow-the-herd mentality that led banks, all over the world, into similar bad decisions and dodgy lending. Markets were supposed to be super-efficient and rationale - remember "you can't buck the market"?!
@Iain1962 - Thank you Iain for those kind words. The unmoderated nature of YouTube can indeed lead to some fairly unproductive exchange of insults as opposed to bona fide points of view.
I too am Scottish but from the East Coast. Worked in Glesgae for several years though and loved it.
@londonscot1 So no the NHS sucks in my experience, people like it because their babies have been born there and their wounds have been treated there, but they don't have anything to compare it with, so they just like it because it what there is.
@londonscot1 I would change it, I just wouldn't end universal care ...I'm not sure that Mr.Hanan actually said he wanted the NHS disposed of, in fact he didn't. Fundamental changes will compulsoraly have to occour ....before its too late. (I have a list of recomendations ...not that you'd be interested.)
@temporaldisplacement - Hannan described the NHS as a 60-year disaster that he wouldn't have wished on his worst enemy. That is fairly unambiguous! Actually I would be interested in hearing your recommendations for change / improvement. We might be in agreement! The NHS needs to adapt to survive.....
@londonscot1 We buy all of our medical high-technology from abroad, I want to see an end to that, I appreciate we have a pharmaceutical industry (if not, the NHS would be untenable) And then to cap wages and bonus's in NHS administration. For starters. Then listen to the doctors on training ...which I understand is the more sophisticated issue at hand.
@bomberhayley And yet where's Hannan? In the backwoods of Brussels, posted there by Tory high command. He's too much of a liability to be allowed into mainstream British politics. His statements on U.S. television would bring lynch mobs out after him.
Nah, mate. Only Labour supporters are on benefits. Thanks to this fucking awful governmnet unemployment is at 8 million. The working class don't work any more since they are paid not to.
Unemployment is actually 2.47 million and not 8 million (get your facts right).
Under Thatcher, unemployment reached 3 million in 1983 and she was transfered people onto incapacity benefit to stop the figure from going any higher.
If you dont pay tax then you cant moan if people take benefits, im guessing your at school right? My tax pays for your education...but to be honest im not seeing much of a return.
Thanks to Labour there are 8 million unemployed people in this country. At least two-thirds of the people on incapacity benefit have nothing wrong with them at all.
Where the hell do you get this 8 million from? Even Fox News (right wing nuts) said the UK unemployment is pretty low compared to the US/FR/GER.
Oh...and you'll be going to uni right? My tax will be paying for that? And if you need to go to a nhs hospital? My tax will be paying for that. And you need the police? My tax will be paying for that.
I don't use the NHS. You're one of the 8 million adults classed as "economically inactive" aren't you? No wonder you support the fucking useless Labour Party, you're worried Dave will stop your benefits.
Lol I'm actually a corporate solicitor and pay thousands of pounds of tax a year.
But to be honest if you cant read facts about unemployment being 2.47 million a year, then your probably gunna end up on benefits which my tax will be paying for.
None of them are disabled at all. Just watch the Jeremy Kyle show, all a load of unemployed alcoholic drug addicted welfare addicts and single mothers. David Cameron's first priority will be to reward marriage.
I'm a 23 year old working man, with my own house and car. you are a 15 year old boy not yet weaned from his mothers teat. So really who do you think is the real welfare boy?
@Edwardpac Forget your personal opinion - on this issue and on this issue alone, the man speaks the truth. Live with it. If you don't like our system, fuck off to America.
John Prescott is a great man! And the NHS is the greatest form of healthcare in the world at this given time! In my opinion Aneurin Bevan should be a national hero along with Winston Churchill (even if they did hate each other lol)! X
@FrankClanton I hope you're lying in the next bed to him dying of the same type of cancer only in a more painful place,so poo to ya.The NHS compared to the US crap health care is brilliant and the BBC even more brilliant than the NHS so double poo to ya. And another thing fox news is crap along with that crap Daniel hannan and george bush was crap and so his was crap dad to and American rounders is crap along with their crap football now Sarah Pain she really is crap.Sorry go to go for a crap
@FrankClanton Oh sorry I was under the impression I was talking to just another thick ,stupid, far right ,brain dead, twat .I apologise I'm talking to a racist thick,stupid,far right ,brain dead, twat.
@FrankClanton Given that I,m not a Yank I don't give a crap, mind the Yanks should.Still don't worry at least ya got one thing right, is that a first?Please don't answer this is getting boring.
The idiots in charge take our money & it gets given to the 'medical' profession regardless of whether they're rubbish or not. So people get mistreated, people get left in squalid conditions, the money is wasted & taken in corruption & patients die.
Most UK doctors are overpaid & extremely poor at their job, they treat the 'customer' like something they've stepped in.
Why can we not have credits that we can spend, so that the crap doctors & dire service will disappear.
I am not British but I respect your system! I hate our USA system, here our system is so corrupt, we let our american people die... it's so sad. Our congress government is so corrupted with the private sector they allow this to happen to our american people. it needs to come to an end... I am not British but I will say god bless your NHS system! it's way better then our american system.
How and why can some people avoid being ill? Just hope you don't get Cancer or Multiple Sclerosis or Motor Neurone Disease like Stephen Hawking, or suffer a stroke etc.....
@FrankClanton yeah lifestyles do have an effect on your health..... however, many many illnesses have nothing to do with lifestyles... a lot of its genetic and a lot of it is just pure bad luck.....Can you imagine if someone got brain tumour and could not afford the treatment (like it happens sometimes in the US)..... do you really want to live in that society.... in my opinion the NHS is one of the greatest achievements of modern Britain and we should be very proud of it!
I am american, and I agree with you my Britain friend!!!! I respect and honor your system in Europe and England etc. The Nhs is what a true system should be like... Here in America if you make over 900.00 a month with a kid you're denied coverage because they say"you make to much".. and if you're over weight you pay 350.00 and up a month for coverage.... and best believe they will deny your coverage the private sector if they feel it will save them money.... our system here in the USA sucks.
We don't have socialized meds because we're a bunch of idiots... besides our healthcare system is a piece of shit, we lose 50,000 people a year due to lack of coverage, and we're number 37 in the world..... we really need to wake up and take care of our american people...
maybe that goes for your mother, and all your loved ones too right you stupid republican. idiotic scum bucket people like you keep america down to the ground... you're a moron.... healthcare should be a born right, not cost you a fortune for care... these slime ball private companies really juice our american people. fuck our garbage system.
No, Prescott. The world, along with most of Britain, will ignore YOU. And regardless of pride, the NHS is bankrupting Britain, while offering mediocre quality. You may be proud of it, but that's not to say you couldn't have better care at lower costs. I believe that's Hannan's main point, and that's obviously a point that flies way over your head.
dradeel 2 weeks ago
Utopia is good.
manoman0 2 months ago
picture of health
wickerman1 2 months ago
Prescott, I think most of your policies were total shit, and quite frankly I think you're arsehole but you've got this one bang on the button.
The NHS is one of the few things that make me proud to be British.
leapoffaith20 2 months ago
Hear fucking hear. I dislike Labour but always thought possitively of Prescott, he started off working class and speaks a lot of sense on issues that affect us. This video proves that.
thatguywiththeegg 4 months ago
@MrBloograss The BGS is not the commission and the commision's findings only mentioned problems, you dont specify whether the problems it found can be correlated with the claims of the societty and even then, in only a quarter of hosptials.
spacedog1973 5 months ago
I only wish more people in the US would listen to facts rather than right-wing propaganda
SilverbulletJT 5 months ago
well said Mr. Prescott.
itsinmynamechap 5 months ago
well mr prescott.... you look like and smacked arse, but by god your right :)
Roryaber 11 months ago 5
we all love you Mr. Prescott :)
RenderedUseless91 1 year ago
Prescott = badass
Maelstromaku 1 year ago 2
People bitch and moan about the NHS , but thing i say is this. British are the most highly trained in the world and they make mistakes , so how many mistakes does a less qualified and trained US nurse make then? Loads!
Bitch all you like about the NHS yankee's but the fact is the NHS is in my opinion one of the best British inventions for 3 centuaries.
Regardless of income or employment status EVERYONE can get free treatment. Cant say the same for the USA can we?!
bubbles867 1 year ago
NHS Rules!
infokemp 1 year ago
@infokemp yes but i think the cuts will hurrt the nhs
mynoon1999 1 year ago
Prescot doesn't deserve the stick he gets, if a women or a black person wears a suit instead of a dress of traditional African dress respectively it goes without notice, as it should, but when he, a working class Northerner does it he's somehow a traitor to his 'kind'.
Fucking Daily Mail Nazis!
mgore90 1 year ago
Britain should go back to the Monarchy. I'd much rather fight for King and Country, than corrupt politicians, and their back door deals.
Scroopulous 1 year ago
If Hannan doesn't like the NHS which saved my Mam and Dad's Life, then Hannan should fuck off to the US.
Stop trying to kill our British brothers and sisters with his Corporatist Parroting!
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Why did you course the winter of discontent in 1979,i ask because this brought in the
worse ever Tory in power, that destroyed all the things that the labour was putting together to help the working man and woman including those to ill to work and all becouse you dident get 10 per cent increes in your money why,you and us are worse of know and if you would have left well alone,the U.S.A woulden't been any problem know,please answear
inzen1909 1 year ago
bloody legend
yourmummademefat 1 year ago
i was atagged to
Raylufc 1 year ago
The money poured in by Labour has been wasted, nearly as many managers as there are nurses, tick box bureaucracy and the mixing of recovering patients with dementia and alzheimers patients on the same wards. I'm not anti-NHS at all i've relied on it all my life, but we need to take the money out of the bureaucratic side of the system and fund more nurses, more special care units and the updating of technology and treatments.
northnotsouth 1 year ago
@northnotsouth Although I can't stand all the senior managers bleaching the NHS for £200,000 a year, there does have to be some bureaucracy, if there is none you end up with doctors wasting their time with getting the doors fixed, or matrons checking people's time sheets.
whereitsat309 1 year ago
...and how much of the British medical equipment and procedural innovations are from the United States?
shoelessjohn 1 year ago
I've heard of some horror stories from America in regard to private healthcare.
People charged 100s of dollars for basic treatment, people being given needless tests; just to rack up the hospital bill. Recommending expensive medication when there are better alternatives, because of pharmaceutical company sponsorship.
It sounds ridiculous, one guy said he got a $1200 bill for using a hospital bed and having medication they could have got £5 over the counter.
AnnoyedDragon 1 year ago
He speaks a lot of sense but of course it's up to the Americans. My experience with the NHS is one where I could not commend them higher. I broke my hand and wrist into pieces after an explosion. After two operations and months of physiotherapy I can now not only write my name but am capable of playing my drum kit again. Not once was there any discussion or even a thought about payment or insurance and the NHS staff were nothing short of fantastic. But it's your choice America.
waynejingo 1 year ago 22
@waynejingo America are allergic to sense.
y0uthagainstfacism 11 months ago 4
@waynejingo "Not once was there any discussion or even a thought of payment" thank you for making my point for me. NOTHING is free. And every country with a universalized health system (including ones with a better ranking than the UK) is collapsing under debt. It is unsustainable.
Rensune 8 months ago
@waynejingo
It's comments like this that make me wish Youtube had an "epic like" button.
GrandSupremeDaddyo 5 months ago
@waynejingo: Sorry, I know that's an old comment, but a f***ing explosion, blimey! I have to ask, what went wrong? Was it a gas pipe?
BrCaSt87 1 month ago
The truth about NHS is hidden. NHS is a terrorist organization.
I have worked for NHS now for more than 3 years for the last 2 years I am being harassed by a Consultant called Gareth Owen. I was working in Galn Clwyd Hospital North Wales under Geriatrician Gareth Owen, who seemed impressed by my ability to retain knowledge and use it in clinical context. Curious he and another Geriatrician Greenway decided to break into my house and stole my files and since then I am being harassed.
sabaafzal11 1 year ago
@sabaafzal11 Yes. Indeed it is. I heard the same story by the potato king. I took my flying carpet there you see, to have a tea party with the fairy's of la-la land.
TheDJMars 1 year ago
Consultants abuse their positions and then harass you to make sure you dont spill the truth. They enjoy playing unethical games with their trainee- like single blinded trials. There is no accountability, and you can even get harassed during professional examination like MRCP paces. My home lines are bugged and my mobile phone tapped into. My friends and family harassed. To a point I have been acused of being a member of al Quida.
sabaafzal11 1 year ago
@sabaafzal11 And your evidence for this is?
swordhunter12 1 year ago
And those waiting lists will happen again big feller if Labour doesn't sort itself out.
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
Erm, I agree with John Prescott. Should I be worried?
randomjrr1422 1 year ago
@randomjrr1422
Nah, it just shows the American right are so aggressive in their tactics and philosophies, that it highlights a moment when even those who hate John Prescott can rally around him. It's not really about John Prescott, it's about the GOP exploiting American fear and ignorance to protect the health insurance industry whose lobbies clearly give the party huge handouts, in exchange for protecting their interests.
PurushaDesa 1 year ago 2
@randomjrr1422 Anyone with half a brain would prefer Prescott over Palin.
Dibdin100 1 year ago
the fat man 2 jags is right. all of it.
spokrocks 1 year ago
Cant believe my respect for John Precott is massive now that he has left. I would actually want him back and in power after watching this.
kromed01 1 year ago
They only count people who are seeking work as unemployed. What about the three million plus on incapacity benefit, at least two million of whom have nothing wrong with them.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
There are over eight million adults of working age who are unemployed thanks to the New Labour government rewarding people not to work.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
Actually unemployment is at its highest level now of over 8 million thanks to 13 years of New Labour.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Lord Prescott of Hull...after your affairs did the good Lady Pauline have her HIV/STD tests privarely?
room124 1 year ago
It's really surprising that such an ugly obese bloke like that could have any affairs.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
No it was Thatcher who saved the country from years of socialist misrule. David Cameron isn't right-wing enough but he's sure better than the unelected, autistic freak Brown.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
He's a stupid evil fat fucking cunt who helped ruin this once great country. I will celebrate his death.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
Fuck the NHS and the stupid fat cunt Prescott.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
John Prescott is a stupid fat cunt and I hope he gets CANCER.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
Three cheers for Prescott! David Hannan is a traitor and a liar!
TheRealDinner 1 year ago
@TheRealDinner Or Daniel Hannan! And that he is!
thefltdriver 1 year ago
John Prescott is a fat repulsive labour bastard
ManlnCognito 1 year ago
Go on Prezza, you legend!!
vitomannone1 1 year ago
if it wasnt for the NHS i would have a dislocated arm right now, not everyone can afford private health care so the NHS is good for that, so yeah they may be bad in some points, but if you look at it as a whole....it's pretty good.
Randomness404 1 year ago
John Prescott is a stupid fat cunt.
I hope he gets CANCER.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready To report JuanMacready AKA PeterFirthFan (dead LOL) AKA FrankClanton
(dead LOL) go to: youtube com/safety_help For any racist, anti disability, anti
sexual orientation or ANY other HATE comment which you feel may
contravene YouTube rules and regulations. Or for any comment which is
libellous, defamatory or slanderous. TOGETHER we can throw the piece of
shit JuanMacready AKA PeterFirthFan (dead LOL) AKA FrankClanton (dead
LOL) in the YouTube garbage can!
MobiIecheese 1 year ago
@JuanMacready He's more of a man than you are, at least he goes out in the fresh air and he's landed a punch on someone. Like him or not, he's got the courage of his convictions. In a civilised society, a statement like that is simply not acceptable.
thefltdriver 1 year ago 6
Prescott is a stupid fat fuck and if he was diagnosed with terminal cancer I would literally cry with happiness. The NHS and the left-wing BBC should both be privatised at once.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Smart enough to have more power than you could ever dream of though, eh? Despite your political views.
thefltdriver 1 year ago
Scary that such a stupid dumb fucking prick could be Deputy PM for ten years. At least the stupid fat freak has nothing now. I will celebrate his death.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready He's got more than you, hasn't he? In terms of property, at least. It's just sour grapes from you, isn't it? Sour grapes from a Tory twat. Go and wank yourself silly fantasizing about power in a pair of fishnets and suspenders, that's Tory form.
thefltdriver 1 year ago
Yes he certainly claimed loads in expenses off the taxpayer. I hope and pray that he gets pancreatic cancer.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Well, that's another story. What I'm saying is that he had the gumption to go into politics in the first place for honest reasons and he's done more the working class than you're ever likely to do, given your Tory leanings. You know, if I could, I would love to nail you to a crucifix.
thefltdriver 1 year ago
Yes, I suggest you have another look at his record as Deputy Prime Minister and you will find he did more Conservative work than Thatcher/Major ever did.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready No, not privatised: Shut down. They're too corrupt.
Guncriminal 1 year ago
Go to France if you want to see proper public health care, NHS is terrible If I hadn't turned to private health insurance I would of gone blind in an eye... My impression is that people who are not ill and know nothin about the NHS are the one's who support these labour goons..
kinyo04 1 year ago
@kinyo04 Dickhead. Everyone's come into contact with the NHS at least once in their lives, you can't say that no one knows anything about the NHS. Don't be so fucking biased.
thefltdriver 1 year ago
@thefltdriver just because I disagree with you or have a different opinion than you doesn't justify calling me a "dickhead", Additional I stick by what I say that people who bang about about labour's good job about the NHS haven't gone abroad where comparatively speaking, spending is the same yet the services are more efficient and far less bureaucratic... it's easy to spend money however it's far harder to do the necessary structural reforms to make that money "work".
kinyo04 1 year ago
@kinyo04 Well yeah, we all know there's room for improvement, the trouble is dickheads who say that it's shit, just because it's nationalised. It can be done properly but it doesn't invalidate the principle just because the implementation isn't perfect. Let's not fight. <2
thefltdriver 1 year ago
Well said, Mr Prescott. Daniel Hannan MEP must have US political ambitions because no UK mainstream politician with serious career aspirations would dare criticise the NHS.
If the NHS were as bad as Hannan says, why do 99% of Brits support it?
londonscot1 1 year ago 20
@londonscot1 Hannan is a cunt. Search YouTube video: MhbyGlI1xHs
whereitsat309 1 year ago
@whereitsat309 You express yourself robustly! But I don't disagree with the underlying sentiment of your character assessment of Hannan, who should relocate to the USA and take his chances with their public healthcare system if he feels so threatened by the NHS.
londonscot1 1 year ago
@londonscot1 I'm somewhat to the point...
whereitsat309 1 year ago
When you become dependent on a system, of course you are afraid of what will happen without it. This is particularly true when you have never known anything else. If you have had enormous chunks of your income taken from you, you understandably want that money back. That's why it's supported.
hpd929 1 year ago
@hpd929 With all due respect, the "junkie / dependency" argument against the NHS doesn't quite cut it. There is also a humanitarian side to the NHS that deeply appeals to the best side of human nature, on all sides of the political spectrum (don't forget that the NHS is also popular with fiscal conservatives). But your financial argument is also wrong because the government provides healthcare more cheaply than the private sector can, hence it takes less of GDP than in the States.
londonscot1 1 year ago 2
@hpd929 I would also point out, obviously, that your argument that "When you become dependent on a system, of course you are afraid of what will happen without it", could also apply to US conservatives! They (you?) seem unhealthily attached to the simplistic "private = good, public = bad" argument which has left you with the world's most expensive and inefficient healthcare (amongst other things). No kind of model for the rest of the world!
londonscot1 1 year ago
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@hpd929
Said like someone who has no idea what they are talking about...
Go back to licking Beck's feet
SIXITHS 1 year ago
@hpd929
America: 16% GDP spent on healthcare. 45,000,000 people without cover
Britain: 8.4% GDP spent on healthcare. 0 people without cover
But I guess you end up thinking what you do when you listen to right-wing poloticians whose campaigns are funded by health insurance monopolists...
SIXITHS 1 year ago 2
@hpd929
The World Health Organisation (WHO) ranked UK healthcare 18th in the world. The USA came in at a dismal 37th...
SIXITHS 1 year ago 25
@SIXITHS Excellent comment - social democracy & a social market beat naked greed hands down!
Go on John tell em like it is!
infokemp 1 year ago
@SIXITHS If one HAS insurance in the US, American health care is VERY good, but as a good percentage of people DON'T have ANY kind of insurance or health care, it's on average not so great. People die because of relatively treatable illnesses (like high blood pressure) are taken rather lightly because they can't afford to go to the doctor to find out how serious their condition might be. (Such diseases are called "silent killers".)
shmuli9 1 year ago
@SIXITHS Who was first? Its Germany or Sweden isnt it?
grimblebrumble17889 4 months ago
@grimblebrumble17889 It's actually France #1, Italy #2, UK #18 Sweden #23, Germany #25....................USA #37 (Chile #33)
These are just some of the world rankings, 3rd world countries come infront of the US on terms of Health Care.
Source: The World Health Organization
0011GB 1 month ago
@0011GB Bad source, bad numbers and obviously wrong. First of all, you cannot judge all of America under one. Second of all, Singapore beats both France and Italy's care, easily. Also, Italy is far from #2 in the world.
And how can you really believe numbers that place USA's health care below Chile's healthcare? USA have among the most high tech equipment in their hospitals per patient, have among the best special care in the world and is by far world leading in medical innovation.
dradeel 2 weeks ago
@londonscot1 They don't 14% have private care.
toeblarone 1 year ago
@toeblarone - 86% still sounds like a majority. And out of the remaining 14%, do you think it's BUPA's ambulances that'll come running when they're in a car accident or a house fire?
londonscot1 1 year ago
@londonscot1
Because they don't know anything else, here's a Brit living abroad having experienced other systems and the UK system and I can tell you the UK system sucks.
No politician will usually say anything because the NHS is now the 3rd largest employer in the world, after the Chinese Army and the Indian Railway, so that's a lot of votes, the NHS also now holds large political sway now.
Iain1962 1 year ago
@Iain1962 - I wouldn't go so far as to say that the NHS is the world's best state healthcare. That honour should probably go to the French, Germans or Scandinavians. Obviously there is room for improvement. But all-in-all the NHS does a good job and consumes less of GDP than the US model. As for standards, to say that the NHS "sucks" certainly doesn't match my own experience, or my friends' / relatives'. Just speak with somebody who was working-class in the 1930s, before the NHS!
londonscot1 1 year ago
@londonscot1
My Dad in Glasgow had a stroke, they put him in a cupboard to die, when I arrived to visit him from abroad, he had sores on his tounge because they had not even given him water.
My mother had a problem she had to wait over a year to see a specialist and was told if she took independant action in the meantime she would lose her "rights".
My Dad was born in 1915, he paid his whole life to die in a cupboard.
Iain1962 1 year ago
@Iain1962 - That must have been a horrible experience for all concerned, and I sympathise. But you have to look at the general picture, not just the personal. To suggest that the majority who have a positive experience of the NHS have only suffered from minor ailments and / or "don't have anything to compare [the NHS] with" (BUPA?) is a tad unfair. There are pockets of excellence as well as mediocrity. Genuine query: are you totally opposed to the idea of socialised medicine?
londonscot1 1 year ago
@londonscot1 Well not entirely there should be a safety net, but I am against socialised anything. Socialism forces everything down to the LCD nobody really benefits except the government, and it makes people anti-social because they expect the state to look after them. When I was young people helped each other, these days if there is a problem people call 999 and wait for the "authorities".
Iain1962 1 year ago
@Iain1962 - I agree with you to the extent that the state shouldn't featherbed / cosset the workshy, or reduce their self-reliance. Surely it's a question of getting the right balance between capitalism and socialism? For example, Sweden. Their social welfare system is much more generous than Britain's, and their taxation / GDP much higher, but they have a strong private sector and an egalitarian society. The Economist magazine last week rated it one of the easiest places to start a business.
londonscot1 1 year ago
@Iain1962 - If you support a "safety net", I would respectfully suggest that you already partly accept some kind of regulation of the free market. As for "people helping each other", the cheapest way of doing so, in the case of healthcare, is for the government to act as a "bulk buyer" of medical services. Who else but government can take on big business and (as in the USA) enforce environmental laws, food safety regulation etc? Big business can't be expected to regulate itself!
londonscot1 1 year ago
Well Sweden isn't exactly in the best shape, I have a friend there who was recently denied a job because theUnion didn't approve his application...Can you imagine a union refuses somebody work when both employer and candidate are up for it...
Taxes are incredibly high, things you take for granted like buying a bottle of wine are not that easy, you have to go to govt controlled shops and they have massive immigration problems.
So Sweden is not perfect. Yes I believe
Iain1962 1 year ago
@Iain1962 - Sweden isn't perfect but my brothers live there and, as high tax-paying trade union members, would benefit from social security payouts that you could actually realistically live on (as opposed to the UK's £65 a week, which I endured for 4 months last year). Trade unions and employers cooperate rather well. Same in Germany. Hence they coped with Euro appreciation by INCREASING German exports.... As for the Swedish alco-shops. It doesn't seem to blunt their boozing!
londonscot1 1 year ago
When I say safety net I mean there should be fire services and ambulance services, and nobody should be denied care, if you run a medical business that should be part of the charter, if the person can't pay then charity or some govt subsidy should kick in or they should work pro bono, everyone has a duty in their profession, I just don;t think it is Govt's job to control that.
Iain1962 1 year ago
As to taking on big business, well I think the problem is the inverse, these massive government run schemes encourage the governement to "get into bed" with big business, if the govt. just did the job it's supposed to do and be referee, and left the playing field open, I think we would have a better game because right now the govt is the ref and also a player on one of the teams, and if you are not in that team, tough cookie.
Iain1962 1 year ago
You know all these "authorities" maybe you are a small innovator who has produced a new product, but the testing and authorising rules preclude you from getting your perhaps revolutionary product to market because you have to spend millions before you can even begin to market it, so who do these laws benefit?
Yes there will be cranks but they won't last long, reality catches up with conmen pretty fast, if you allow freedom the cream rises to the top.
Iain1962 1 year ago
Just to add that I think everything is better run when the govt is out of the way. Govt encourages waste and corrupotion, central planning has never worked, the very fact the NHS has queues is exactly what happens when the govt is involved.
Can you imagine waiting 9 months for a new mobile phone if you want one, but if you need a life saving operation 9 months is a fair wait, imagine if private enterprise was involved and saw a 9 month wait... There would be new services opening up in weeks..
Iain1962 1 year ago
@Iain1962 - Well, I agree about the safety net but I think we'll have to disagree re: the extent of government control. There isn't a Western industrialised country that doesn't have state involvement on healthcare to some extent, usually with considerable success. Of course it would be madness for civil servants to be taking medical decisions but the UK experience is that commercialisation of the NHS, via PFI, has been just as bad in many ways....... Whoever heard of MRSA before?!
londonscot1 1 year ago
@londonscot1 Well that's the trouble if you take something that has been nationalised and half privatise it, you end up with two bossess pulling at the same rope for once again no gain to the patient, or customer if you compare it to the rail network where they have tinkered around the edges as well.
Just because lots of countries have it doesn't mean it's the only solution, we all have privately owned central banks and that's about the worst thing possible.
Iain1962 1 year ago
If it had never been nationalised in the first place it would be a whole different picture today, just look at the record of Beveridge and Attlee's 1940' s nationalisation, every single industry they nationlalised is now dust... except the health service. Steel, gone, British Leyland, gone, British Coal, gone, British Rail, gone, shipbuilding, gone etc etc... they took the industry and ran it into the ground and then blame the private sector for trying to make it work again...
Iain1962 1 year ago
@Iain1962 - State control of industry worked OK in WWII. Can't say I agree 100% with your analysis of 1940s nationalisation though. The causes of those industries' decline were various, e.g. rotten / complacent management, greedy trade unions, comparative advantage of Germany / Japan, loss of British Empire markets etc. State ownership wasn't always the prime culprit, although i agree, on the whole, that Whitehall bureaucrats aren't the best people to be making commercial decisions!
londonscot1 1 year ago
@londonscot1 In a war there is no choice. That's why governments like them so much.
The British Shipbuilding industry and navy was the biggest and best in the world until the 1940's, the problem when a govt takes over a business is that the management vision changes with each election, and they cannot take "risks" because that would be seen as playing with the taxpayer's money, so all they can do is maintain it as it was when they took it over, and so other countries get ahead..
Iain1962 1 year ago
@Iain1962 - I am going to suggest that big business also, occasionally, does well in wartime! Remember "the military-industrial complex" (Eisenhower, 1959)?!
UK shipbuilding is a sad story of trade union militancy, management ineptitude, and, of course, cheap competition from the Third World. There are one or two good yards left in the UK, though, so the labour force and management must be OK these days! Provided the government keeps bunging them defence contracts, of course.....
londonscot1 1 year ago
@Iain1962 - What also needs to be remembered is that the railways and coal industry were effectively bankrupt even before WWII, which was another reason for them being taken into public ownership. And of course the railways are still with us, benefiting from public subsidy! What is the UK's biggest economic success story? Arguably, it's the defence industry, which gets billions of state subsidy, e.g. ECGD. Even Thatcher made an exception for the arms trade!
londonscot1 1 year ago
@londonscot1
Well the railways are still with us so is British Airways, that used to be private too (BEA BOAC, etc) But they have all been privatised again in order to survive.
It's clear anything run by govt fails in the end, it might last a few generations, but the lack of innovation and the corruption that becomes a part of the "system" inevitable leads to decay, they only way to advance anything is to have some kind of profit motive as a driving force for excellence.
Iain1962 1 year ago
@Iain1962 - Actually i agree with you that the government shouldn't be taking microeconomic decisions. But consider this. The Chinese and other governments are expanding state ownership. The Economist recently referred to resurgent state capitalism as "Leviathan Incorporated". The emerging markets governments aren't embracing a 100% free-market ioeology. They are trying to buck the market, same as Britain did in the 19th century, when the playing-field could be gently tilted in our favour!
londonscot1 1 year ago
@londonscot1 Yes I agree the arms trade is nasty stuff. So are subsidies.
Iain1962 1 year ago
@Iain1962 - I agree that a one-size-fits-all solution (e.g. for central banks) is probably a bad idea. For example, it was the follow-the-herd mentality that led banks, all over the world, into similar bad decisions and dodgy lending. Markets were supposed to be super-efficient and rationale - remember "you can't buck the market"?!
londonscot1 1 year ago
@londonscot1
And it's really nice to have an exchange of ideas with somebody on Youtube which doesn't descend into "you are a moron", cheers !
Looks like you are Scottish too...
Iain1962 1 year ago
@Iain1962 - Thank you Iain for those kind words. The unmoderated nature of YouTube can indeed lead to some fairly unproductive exchange of insults as opposed to bona fide points of view.
I too am Scottish but from the East Coast. Worked in Glesgae for several years though and loved it.
londonscot1 1 year ago
@londonscot1 So no the NHS sucks in my experience, people like it because their babies have been born there and their wounds have been treated there, but they don't have anything to compare it with, so they just like it because it what there is.
Iain1962 1 year ago
@londonscot1 I would change it, I just wouldn't end universal care ...I'm not sure that Mr.Hanan actually said he wanted the NHS disposed of, in fact he didn't. Fundamental changes will compulsoraly have to occour ....before its too late. (I have a list of recomendations ...not that you'd be interested.)
temporaldisplacement 1 year ago
@temporaldisplacement - Hannan described the NHS as a 60-year disaster that he wouldn't have wished on his worst enemy. That is fairly unambiguous! Actually I would be interested in hearing your recommendations for change / improvement. We might be in agreement! The NHS needs to adapt to survive.....
londonscot1 1 year ago
@londonscot1 We buy all of our medical high-technology from abroad, I want to see an end to that, I appreciate we have a pharmaceutical industry (if not, the NHS would be untenable) And then to cap wages and bonus's in NHS administration. For starters. Then listen to the doctors on training ...which I understand is the more sophisticated issue at hand.
temporaldisplacement 1 year ago
@temporaldisplacement - I agree. We need a bonfire of the bureaucrats. And their filing cabinets!
londonscot1 1 year ago
aaaah johny 2 jags ! your never gonna be anything but in the shadow of Hannan !
bomberhayley 1 year ago
@bomberhayley And yet where's Hannan? In the backwoods of Brussels, posted there by Tory high command. He's too much of a liability to be allowed into mainstream British politics. His statements on U.S. television would bring lynch mobs out after him.
thefltdriver 1 year ago
Good video, thanks John!
gordonbourbonbiscuit 1 year ago
I miss this guy - good old fashioned working class guy.
pardeepsinghk 1 year ago
I hope the stupid fat cunt gets CANCER.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
You're obviously a benefit scrounging chav.
pardeepsinghk 1 year ago
Nah, mate. Only Labour supporters are on benefits. Thanks to this fucking awful governmnet unemployment is at 8 million. The working class don't work any more since they are paid not to.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
Unemployment is actually 2.47 million and not 8 million (get your facts right).
Under Thatcher, unemployment reached 3 million in 1983 and she was transfered people onto incapacity benefit to stop the figure from going any higher.
If you dont pay tax then you cant moan if people take benefits, im guessing your at school right? My tax pays for your education...but to be honest im not seeing much of a return.
pardeepsinghk 1 year ago
Thanks to Labour there are 8 million unemployed people in this country. At least two-thirds of the people on incapacity benefit have nothing wrong with them at all.
I don't go to a state school thank you very much.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
Where the hell do you get this 8 million from? Even Fox News (right wing nuts) said the UK unemployment is pretty low compared to the US/FR/GER.
Oh...and you'll be going to uni right? My tax will be paying for that? And if you need to go to a nhs hospital? My tax will be paying for that. And you need the police? My tax will be paying for that.
Pay tax before you start moaning.
pardeepsinghk 1 year ago
I don't use the NHS. You're one of the 8 million adults classed as "economically inactive" aren't you? No wonder you support the fucking useless Labour Party, you're worried Dave will stop your benefits.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
Lol I'm actually a corporate solicitor and pay thousands of pounds of tax a year.
But to be honest if you cant read facts about unemployment being 2.47 million a year, then your probably gunna end up on benefits which my tax will be paying for.
pardeepsinghk 1 year ago
Yeah sure you are mate.
PS: 8 million adults of working age don't have a job.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
I qualified last year in taxation, intellectual property and employment law.
You dont even pay tax so why the hell are you moaning for?
Oh and 8 million adults? Still dont know where you got that from.
pardeepsinghk 1 year ago
8 million adults of working age don't work at all because this pathetic, evil government pays them not to.
We need a fucking election right now. Thankfully the half-blind, autistic freak Brown hasn't a chance in hell of winning.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
Taking he piss out of the disabled? you should join the tory party, they need people like you
pardeepsinghk 1 year ago
None of them are disabled at all. Just watch the Jeremy Kyle show, all a load of unemployed alcoholic drug addicted welfare addicts and single mothers. David Cameron's first priority will be to reward marriage.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
Yeah, if you've got time to watch Jeremy Kyle during the day, then you should get a job. Otherwise you'll find yourself on that programme.
Reward marriage? Think you'll find a lot of sham marriages and their kids will be disfunctional.
pardeepsinghk 1 year ago
Actually it's repeated at night.
Quite hilarious that this fucking awful unelected autistic freak Brown expects us to believe a fifth of adults can't work.
Rewarding marriage is even more important than fox hunting.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
rewarding marriage lol, sounds like a policy of a well known austrian moustachioed dictator.
leefost 1 year ago
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Hitler was a thousand times better than the autistic freak Brown.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
oh you're only 15 lol, wont waste my breath. come back when you can actually vote.
leefost 1 year ago
Enjoy the next government, welfare boy.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
I'm a 23 year old working man, with my own house and car. you are a 15 year old boy not yet weaned from his mothers teat. So really who do you think is the real welfare boy?
leefost 1 year ago
what is your problem with autistic 'freaks'?
chelbelle20 1 year ago
Say what you want about Prescott but at least he's true labour and speaks out for the working class.
leefost 1 year ago
Well said!!! X
MedicalDB 1 year ago
Yeah fuck off is he.
I hope the stupid fat CUNT gets CANCER.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
Prescott is a utter disgrace and is the last person anyone should taking advice from regarding health care.
Edwardpac 2 years ago
@Edwardpac Forget your personal opinion - on this issue and on this issue alone, the man speaks the truth. Live with it. If you don't like our system, fuck off to America.
thefltdriver 1 year ago
John Prescott is a great man! And the NHS is the greatest form of healthcare in the world at this given time! In my opinion Aneurin Bevan should be a national hero along with Winston Churchill (even if they did hate each other lol)! X
MedicalDB 2 years ago
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Prescott is a stupid fat cunt and I hope he gets CANCER. The NHS should be completely privatised.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
@FrankClanton I hope you're lying in the next bed to him dying of the same type of cancer only in a more painful place,so poo to ya.The NHS compared to the US crap health care is brilliant and the BBC even more brilliant than the NHS so double poo to ya. And another thing fox news is crap along with that crap Daniel hannan and george bush was crap and so his was crap dad to and American rounders is crap along with their crap football now Sarah Pain she really is crap.Sorry go to go for a crap
davijeph 1 year ago
The NHS and the BBC are both crap and will be privatised after Labour loses the election. Bush was a FAR better president than that joke Obongo.
I hope the stupid fat cunt Prescott dies of CANCER.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
@FrankClanton Oh sorry I was under the impression I was talking to just another thick ,stupid, far right ,brain dead, twat .I apologise I'm talking to a racist thick,stupid,far right ,brain dead, twat.
davijeph 1 year ago
Obongo is going to lose both houses of Congress in a landslide this year. Good news isn't it, old man?
FrankClanton 1 year ago
@FrankClanton Given that I,m not a Yank I don't give a crap, mind the Yanks should.Still don't worry at least ya got one thing right, is that a first?Please don't answer this is getting boring.
davijeph 1 year ago
Scary taht this stupid fat fuck was Deputy PM for 10 years. Thankfully the unelected, autistic freak Brown is going to lose by a landslide.
PeterFirthFan 1 year ago
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MedicalDB 1 year ago
sorry Frank but rascist fascists like yourself have no place in a civilised debate such as this.
leefost 1 year ago
I will celebrate the stupid fat cunt's death.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
Bevan is god.
pardeepsinghk 1 year ago
No, only Baroness Thatcher is God.
FrankClanton 1 year ago
The NHS is a joke.
The idiots in charge take our money & it gets given to the 'medical' profession regardless of whether they're rubbish or not. So people get mistreated, people get left in squalid conditions, the money is wasted & taken in corruption & patients die.
Most UK doctors are overpaid & extremely poor at their job, they treat the 'customer' like something they've stepped in.
Why can we not have credits that we can spend, so that the crap doctors & dire service will disappear.
Rundogz 2 years ago
The NHS is fucking crap and should be privatised along with the BBC.
FrankClanton 2 years ago
I am not British but I respect your system! I hate our USA system, here our system is so corrupt, we let our american people die... it's so sad. Our congress government is so corrupted with the private sector they allow this to happen to our american people. it needs to come to an end... I am not British but I will say god bless your NHS system! it's way better then our american system.
networkingdefence1 2 years ago 9
If people can't afford health care then they shouldn't get ill.
FrankClanton 2 years ago
I don't think you are being serious....
Kevinasp 2 years ago
Yeah I am, they don't have socialised medicine in the US so there is no reason why Britain should have it.
FrankClanton 2 years ago
How and why can some people avoid being ill? Just hope you don't get Cancer or Multiple Sclerosis or Motor Neurone Disease like Stephen Hawking, or suffer a stroke etc.....
Kevinasp 2 years ago
Most illnesses are caused by a person's lifestyle, ie the reason Prescott has diabetes is because he's such a fat obese cunt.
FrankClanton 2 years ago
@FrankClanton what about ppl who get cancer?????
were455 2 years ago
A lot of it is brought on by smoking and drinking. Perhaps a little cancer would help the stupid fat cunt Prescott fit into his coffin?
FrankClanton 2 years ago
@FrankClanton yeah lifestyles do have an effect on your health..... however, many many illnesses have nothing to do with lifestyles... a lot of its genetic and a lot of it is just pure bad luck.....Can you imagine if someone got brain tumour and could not afford the treatment (like it happens sometimes in the US)..... do you really want to live in that society.... in my opinion the NHS is one of the greatest achievements of modern Britain and we should be very proud of it!
were455 2 years ago
I am american, and I agree with you my Britain friend!!!! I respect and honor your system in Europe and England etc. The Nhs is what a true system should be like... Here in America if you make over 900.00 a month with a kid you're denied coverage because they say"you make to much".. and if you're over weight you pay 350.00 and up a month for coverage.... and best believe they will deny your coverage the private sector if they feel it will save them money.... our system here in the USA sucks.
networkingdefence1 2 years ago
We don't have socialized meds because we're a bunch of idiots... besides our healthcare system is a piece of shit, we lose 50,000 people a year due to lack of coverage, and we're number 37 in the world..... we really need to wake up and take care of our american people...
networkingdefence1 2 years ago
maybe that goes for your mother, and all your loved ones too right you stupid republican. idiotic scum bucket people like you keep america down to the ground... you're a moron.... healthcare should be a born right, not cost you a fortune for care... these slime ball private companies really juice our american people. fuck our garbage system.
networkingdefence1 2 years ago