Charles Darwin: The True Story

[GreenmeGo]

It is so nice to hear the evolution of man.

[IdaSputum]

see Roger Morneau ex Satanist pt 5

Darwin is a religion

[muhammadzahmad]

interesting and informative....

[thegreeensky]

nice topic.. very interesting...

[circusOFprecision]

I love academia. Where else can you go to find such precisely defined and demonstrated hypocrisy. Not to mention all the ass wipes like Jon von Douche bag who build their careers on Darwin.

[TheAgentdrknite007]

@assym2006 Ah, yes, the most mature way to handle a situation:

Draw attention away from the facts and to your personal views about who made the translation. No, really, that's gonna convince me to believe you.

[TheAgentdrknite007]

@assym2006 No, I know you don't believe me and you'll refuses to see the facts but the I'm talking about the scrolls that archaeologists found from thousands of years ago. Whether you like it or not it's the original translation.

[TheAgentdrknite007]

@assym2006 Ever heard of the "New World's Translation" that's the one I'm talking about no other bible except that one. According to scholars it's the most accurate version of the bible.

[TheAgentdrknite007]

@assym2006 The Bible wasn't written by man whether you want to believe it or not. Plus it was never alter i'm not gonna go into details but it was a very VERY long possess.

[TheAgentdrknite007]

@assym2006 God made the bible right? The Bible has told us things thousands of years ahead of time here 'just one'. Christopher Columbus the Bible has said the word was a circle before he discovered it. Oh, I know you don't have a Bible so i'll quote to you Isaiah 40:22 "There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers..." If you want more I could give you some. Keep in mind this bible has only been translated never altered. ;)

[gamesbok]

@TheAgentdrknite007 The original word was חוּג chûg khoog >From Strong's Concordance: H2328; a circle: - circle, circuit, com passive. It does not mean a sphere. Hebrew has at least two words that mean sphere: : כדור (he) (kadúr) m., ספרה (he) (sféra).

Apparently god failed geometry as well as biology.

[TheAgentdrknite007]

@gamesbok You idiot, the original word was "חוג" meaning 'circle' in Hebrew. Like I said it was translated not altered in anyway.

By the way God made Geometry as well as Biology so that means you fail.

[gamesbok]

@TheAgentdrknite007 Did God have a choice?

[TheAgentdrknite007]

@gamesbok Yes he did. That's why it was in the original translation of the scrolls archaeologists found.

[gamesbok]

@TheAgentdrknite007 Oh dear. I don't care if it's in the original, it's still wrong. Oh, and by the way, Eristosthanese proved the world was a sphere, and how big it was, long before any known copy of Isaiah.

[TheAgentdrknite007]

@assym2006 You have just shown example that are yet to be conclude because the last time I check I don't remember hearing the word "This is proven 100% fact." Why do you think they call it a theory.

No chestnuts found...

They are relevant theories just not stated facts.

[TheAgentdrknite007]

@assym2006 If it's all fact why is it still called a theory? How come people are so unsure about it hmm? Oh, but I'm not talking about you your a proud atheist I'm talking about the rest of the WORLD, hmmm?

[Jessestewart12]

In June 2007 the Council of Europe's "Committee on Culture, Science and Education" issued a report, The dangers of creationism in education, which states "Creationism in any of its forms, such as 'intelligent design', is not based on facts, does not use any scientific reasoning and its contents are pathetically inadequate for science classes."

[spout1000]

This video is too reasoned and rational- I don't think a basic born again type who blindly worships his "creative designer" could maintain their attention for the whole video feed without getting a major anxiety attack. There should be a warning preceeding this video that narrow minded myopic morons should avoid it altogether

[Mr88playmaker]

(A) Information is: the communication or reception of knowledge or intelligence.

(B) Information exist independent of its medium.

(the same information can be stored in one's mind, expressed verbally, written on paper, typed on a computer etc.)

(C) Code = Language. Language originates in a MIND.

There ore only two types of language known to man: (1) That of human mind origin (2) DNA code.

Information is not matter or energy.

Language is not matter or energy.

[gamesbok]

@Mr88playmaker And yet you type in English, and not DNA. What prevents you from transmitting this information in DNA. a fine language, according to you.

[Mr88playmaker]

@gamesbok

Look up what the "L" in "HTML" stands for. It stands for "language."

Find out what language is.

[gamesbok]

@Mr88playmaker Do you imagine that there is something going on in dna replication that is not just chemistry? If so could you please tell the room what that might be.

[Mr88playmaker]

@gamesbok

Information and chemicals are two very different things.

Example: The information I am communicating to you is NOT matter or chemical. It is NOT the letter characters on your computer screen or the glass monitor screen of your computer. I can communicate the same information to you over the telephone or in handwriting or verbally. The information remains unchanged regardless of the physical medium utilized to carry it.

[gamesbok]

@Mr88playmaker What is happening is chemistry. Where the information arises is here, '‘Evolution of Biological Information’, Thomas Schneider, Journal of Nuclaic Acid Research, Oxford University, July 2000.' It's natural, and involves about as much Logos as the growth of a salt crystal.

[Mr88playmaker]

@gamesbok

That's like saying that the information you are conveying via your computer keyboard is plastic because the keys are made of plastic. Information is not matter or chemical. Matter is a medium whereas information exists independent of its medium.

By the way, Try getting "salt crystals" to function as computer code for the creation and sustenance of biological lifeforms. It aint gonna happen!

Atheists at Oxford should take the path of Oxford Prof Antony Flew & follow the evidence!

[gamesbok]

@Mr88playmaker Flew's descent into senility, when he couldn't even remember the names of his closest colleagues, is a tragic story. Flew's confused final ramblings were influenced by Behe, a laughing stock who couldn't even find a single supporter in his own department.

The mechanism of DNA is well understood, it's chemistry. The Logos, as you call it is also well understood, it's information theory. You don't have a case.

[Mr88playmaker]

@gamesbok

It doesn't sound like you know anything at all about chemistry or information theory. If you did you would know that according to science, the amount of information contained in a single bacteria TODAY can only be EQUAL TO or LESS THAN the amount of information contained in a single bacteria an infinite-gazillion years ago but NOT one iota MORE. Information theory is NOT on Darwin's side. Also, DNA code WRITES chemicals and machines. You have it backwards. DNA killed Darwin.

[Mr88playmaker]

Most people in the world and in America are Theists. Atheists are a tiny minority. Atheism at worst is willful rebellion against the obvious, and at best, have-baked philosophy for the lazy. Darwinism is pushed by Universities because the prevailing social/political philosophy of the academic elite is Communism. Most Democrats & Republicans are THEISTS. Only the small but vocal Marxist-extreme element pitches Darwin's false theory as a means to install their Marxist "under man" model of Gov.

[gamesbok]

@Mr88playmaker You live in a world of lies and fantasy. I don't even know where to start addressing your misconceptions. Ignorance I can deal with, through education, but willful ignorance resists this, and it becomes a problem of motivation. Your agenda prohibits any scientific progress.

[TheAgentdrknite007]

@gamesbok What he's saying actually makes sense. If everything has to be scientifically explained then answer me these two questions:

How come scientist ADMIT that even the smallest cell is far to complex for human minds to understand?

How come the 'Piece of crap book' The Bible has told man kind things centuries before these "famous explorers/scientists" discovered them?

[gamesbok]

@Mr88playmaker If you could quote a scientific paper that says 'information' could not increase perhaps I would find your arguement a little more convincing.

In the mean time, here's a scientific paper that says that information will increase. '‘Evolution of Biological Information’, Thomas Schneider, Journal of Nuclaic Acid Research, Oxford University, July 2000.' I know you didn't read it last time I mentioned it., but it's open access and available on line.

[Mr88playmaker]

@gamesbok

Yo sound like bitter Richard Dawkins. Flew was the world's leading militant atheist. Flew was Dawkins' god. When Flew realized that DNA had destroyed Darwin's materialistic Evolutionary theory, he got real and confessed that "There IS a God". 19th century's Charlie Darwin ignorantly assumed that a biological cell was a simple blob of goo. Thanks to modern science we know that a cell is the most brilliantly designed & efficient information computing system in the known universe.

[Mr88playmaker]

@gamesbok

Evolution is the biggest load of crap ever invented. A cell today contains an equal or less amount of information than a cell did say a hundred gazillion billion years ago. It does NOT contain one iota MORE. Darwin was not even a scientist. He lived in the time of Lincoln before we learned that biological life forms are a product of information and language (DNA code). Darwin thought things went from simple to more complex; that a cell was a simple booger as opposed to a computer

[Mr88playmaker]

Theists and Atheists agree together on these true facts:

(A) Theists maintain that INTELLIGENCE arises from an INTELLIGENT source (i.e. the Mind of God)

(B) Atheists maintain that intelligence arises from a NON-intelligent source (duh)

Only the Atheists can NOT logically defend their position.

[Mr88playmaker]

Here are your only choices once more:

(A) Intelligence arises from an INTELLIGENT source.

(B) Intelligence arises from a NON-Intelligent source.

Pick one and own it.

[gamesbok]

@Mr88playmaker Are you suggesting God is not intelligent?

[Mr88playmaker]

"What prevents you from transmitting this information in DNA. a fine language, according to you."

So long as you and I can agree together on an assigned meaning to anything, we can communicate information. Assigning meaning to symbols always requires a mind.

[gamesbok]

@Mr88playmaker I'm sorry, but all matter in the universe is in communication with all the rest, apart from bosons which seem to have a stunning ability to ignor each other, but femions can't ignor them.

If you think there's something going on in biology that isn't chemistry I think you're obliged to tell us what it might be.

[Mr88playmaker]

@gamesbok

Chemicals are a product of genetic information, and there is no such thing as information made of chemical. Genetic information is neither matter nor energy. For example, if I call you to inform you that you've won the lottery, the information is not your telephone. The information (that you have won the lottery) transcends the medium (the telephone).

[gamesbok]

@Mr88playmaker How much did I win? If you call to tell me the I've won the lottery I know you've told me that I've won the lottery. I don't know I've won the lottery. 

I think you'll find chemicals are the result of electrmagnetic forces. Does the information that would constitute possible life forms that currently don't exist itself exist?

[Mr88playmaker]

DNA code is empirical proof that biological life forms are a creative product of information and language. i.e.: Nous / Logos

[GeoEdwardPark]

it took so long to find this vid!!

[0charinamacaron0]

no it's not.

you just type story of charles darwin then that's it !!!!

[falcoperegrinus82]

probably because they used pretty lame tags.