* Google: 'Perry's Merck link in spotlight following vaccine order
Gardasil maker hired his former chief of staff as a lobbyist in Austin' the drug company, Merck, that manufactured the vaccine hired Mike Toomey, his former chief of staff, as one of the firm's top lobbyists in Austin.Merck donated $16,000 to Perry's gubernatorial campaigns.Merck paid Mike Toomey, Perry's frmr chief of staff $260,000 and $535,000 in fees between 2005 and 2010, according to state lobbying records~
Did you know that Rupert Murdoch's son James Murdoch, who manages the UK paper Sunday Times, is on the board of GlaxoSmithKLine? Sir Nigel Davis, the High Court judge that denied parents of children treated by Dr. Wakefield the right to have their claims against vaccine manufacturers heard in a real court? Davis' brother, who is an executive board member of Elsevier, the group that publishes the Lancet, is also on the board of GlaxoSmithKline. EthanHuff at NaturalNews*cm.
Yes, people do have to be warned of the side effects of vaccinations. I did find one website for vaccinations that did speak in detail of the side effects and who should and should not get vaccinations, the truth at last! That's all people want is the truth so they can decide for themselves if they want to be vaccinated. Thanks for your video.
"Thus, based on this body of evidence, the committee concludes that the evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism."
jns124able this is true. I don't like when people post videos like this one stating something as fact, when they dont have the proper evidence to support it, and possibly mislead others.
HEY! When current studies completely and conclusively discredit (it was NEVER demonstrated that thimerosal caused autism so your sources are questionable) you should TAKE DOWN inaccurate garbage posts like this.
Thimerosal is not to disguise the term mercury (ethyl-mercury to be exact)...and this is much less toxic than methyl-mercury(the kind in tuna). You dont even have the fundamentals and then claim to have done exhaustive research...SHAME ON YOU bud.
@DickGhostmoon Say what I want? What Im saying is responsible and informed. Saying "Shame on you" is not an insult, its an admonition. ANY correlation among vaccines and autism have been discredited conclusively by the same science I assume you were using for your springboard originally...but your MALinformed vid is still up...thats a discgrace. Science has discredited the info in your post....leaving it up steers unknowwing people down an outdated path...
@jns124able OK, I've linked to more information. Tell me specifically what you disagree with and I will be glad to remove this video if your argument holds up to the "Science" you talk of. Private message me, If you're science holds up to scrutiny then I will delete the video, now I can't say fairer than that can I?
@DickGhostmoon Certainly. "you HAVE to get the one with the mercury taken out other wise youre gonna get autism or brain damage"..."it's conclusive on the internet"...you calim there are 200 studies and you then say youve read these studies. I would like a list of the 200 studies youve read if you dont mind, for starters which conlusively correlate autism and brain damage to vaccines/thimerosal. Apparently these reputable sources evaded my literature searches while studying medicine.
@DickGhostmoon The same "science" you are inciting has shown NO correlation between autism and vaccines to the point that it is laughable. Why would you hold to outdated information....unless you only hold to info that promotes a particular message YOU want to assert. ah. got it.
The new info doesnt point to what you want it to say...dude there is NO CURRENT evidence linking autism to vaccines. read something current. And keep with the times.
@DickGhostmoon The truth will always be the truth...what the hell does that mean? That you refuse to alter a position based on new evidence (which is, by the way, the hallmark of learning). I change my recommendation based on evidence...I suggest you drop you absolutist attitude and do the same...
@staceys162000 What's your source? You've got to be careful because if your source is a vaccine manufacturer like GSC then obviously they will say their is no link to autism when there clearly is a link.
@staceys162000 what bugs me is when new evidence becomes available, idiots decide it doesnt coincide with their personal agenda and leave up stupid videos like this one which clearly demonstrate this guy is not to be trusted.
I have looked into it. It is true. Think about it, if you only get a vaccine once in your life how much money can a company make off of that? But if you are taking 30 pills a month for 10 years how much money do you think they make? The fear over vaccines is balogna. The mercury in them is nearly nothing. Fish sandwhichs contain more. It is the truth, but you have already decided what is truth and won't listen to science, reason, or common sense.
@wafflezorz1 Roll your sleeves up and get the vaccine quick. Hurry up and get autism so I won't have to read silly comments from you. Autistic people can't function properly to write comments, wait, I think its too late.
@DickGhostmoon I have autism and I can make comments on youtube you prick. For the record I did get vaccinated as a kid and I don't blame it for my autism, so shut the fuck up.
@demon515 I am really glad someone is on my side. Apparently DickGhostmoon doesn't even understand that there is the "autism spectrum." I just can't believe some people are so ignorant, I keep thinking about the Salem Witch Trials. I guess people will always find some idiotic falsehood and believe it no matter what anyone else says.
@DickGhostmoon Wow, you don't know much do you? Go read any of Temple Grandin's books, she is a freaking genius (Dr of Animal Science and a professor) as well as an autistic.
@wafflezorz1 But what if the vaccines were damaging you in such as way that you would be dependent on drugs for rest of your life? What would that be worth to the Pharmaceutical companies? Wouldn't it be worth enough to fake up studies to pay off spokes people to bribe government officials with high paying industry jobs and to fool the lazy media?
@Jolo5305 Well you seem to believe conspiracy that people want to infect the world.
It is due to greed not aliens or any other bullshit you want to attach to people who are growing concerned that current vaccine schedule may be to many too soon for a vulnerable population who haven't developed natural immunity. That a vaccine over load may actually cause damage to natural immune responses and lead to auto immune problems. Problems which require lifelong medical care.
@libertyfizz Double-blind studies are used to account for the placebo effect. I don't think that the placebo effect will have any effect on the diseases and illnesses which vaccines are designed to prevent. Stop throwing out words, which you heard on some stupid youtube video, it doesn't make your point any more true, it only serves to point out just how wrong and misguided you are.
@wafflezorz1 Double blind studies are also used to gauge over all safety not just placebo effect. They are also used to help eliminate the testers bias concerning a product for which there may be a conflict of interest or desired result bias. So stop throwing out misguided stupid stuff you want to believe from some website or youtube video. It just serves to point out how wrong you are.
@libertyfizz Ok, say you are right. No double blind studies have been done. So what? That doesn't prove that they are dangerous. The reason more people are being diagnosed with autism is not because of vaccines, it is because we, the public, are more aware of autism. 70 years ago kids, who today would be put somewhere on the autism spectrum, were diagnosed with "Childhood Psychosis." Causation is not correlation.
@wafflezorz1 A study by researchers at the UC Davis M.I.N.D. Institute has found that the seven- to eight-fold increase in the number children born in California with autism since 1990 cannot be explained by either changes in how the condition is diagnosed or counted. You will have to google it.
@wafflezorz1 You are ignoring how many vaccines that are in the works and that they want to make mandatory. They don't do double blind testing of what is essentially a new drug and place it on the market. Then they make a requirement for multiple doses of that same vaccine because it isn't effective in all. Most studies have small number of subjects tested for extremely short periods of time. And since they have special government protected status they don't have to be as careful.
@DickGhostmoon Except that they removed thimerosol from vaccines about ten years ago.
FYI, thimerosal is a mercury-based preservative used in the manufacturing process of multidose vaccines.
Further to this, Canada still uses thimerosol in multidose vaccines yet the autism rate in Canada is lower than the autism rate in the US. Why is that?
@Jolo5305 I bet you never compared the vaccine schedule of Canada vs the US. Canada doesn't give any repeat any vaccines at birth they do not inflict the HepB vaccine on newborns and wait til 2 months old for first shots. CDC says HepB is counter indicated for people with a yeast allergy. Yeast allergy scratch tests are not given. The USA gives first round of shots at 1 month. You are comparing apples vs oranges.
@libertyfizz To clarify both the newborn and 1first month shot are both HepB shots in the USA vs zero vaccines for the Canadian babies under 2 months of age. In Europe they don't recommend the HepB til at least 3 months and allow for that vaccine to be delayed in infants. Just like pedophiles the HepB pushers know these babies can't testify.
@Jolo5305 Hepatis B has been known to cause severe reactions and death in newborns. ITBC New York Medical examiner's report on a Vaccine-Induced Encephalitis as a result of newborn HepB vaccine. VAERS vaccine injury staff refused to include that report. Which kind of leaves doubt as to how many reports are refused. The possibility HEPb in newborns and infants is one of many and/or in combination with others a factor. Maybe A statistical review of similar populations with different vac.
@libertyfizz So you have no evidence of any sort is what you are saying, compared to hundreds, if not thousands, of studies that show vaccinations are not related to autism?
@Jolo5305 Name one double blind vaccine study ever done? The CDC only claims 22 studies. But none are random/ double blind and tend to concentrate on tiny detail and ignore other factors.
There is a study of random un-vaccinated population vs a random vaccinated population. It showed a 155% increase in autism among the vaccinated. A study which statistically disproved the misdiagnosis claims for increased autism cases. CDC Head saying MMR can cause autism like symptoms.
@libertyfizz Are you truly suggesting that doctors give fake vaccines to one group of children and real vaccines to the rest to see what the autism rates are? Doctors cannot do that, something about ethics...
@Jolo5305 So it would be ok for cigarette manufactures to test 1 pack a day smokers vs 2 pack a day smokers and compare their cancer rates and determine that cigarettes don't cause cancer? Did you know one of the studies which cigarette manufactures did isolated nicotine. They found no statistical difference in cancer rates of lab rats with and without nicotine. Then used that research to say cigs didn't cause cancer ignoring all other toxins in cigs.
@Jolo5305 The point and you obviously are missing it intentionally is that the type of studies which have been done are not double blind. It is irresponsible to say vaccines have been checked and proven safe when every other drug on the planet before it can be declared safe is given a double blind study.
@Jolo5305 How is it the same you are saying that giving a vaccine with mercury is the same as one without and which means all the other elements in the vaccine are still present. That is what a double blind study is for to test a suspected agent then through process of elimination work out which element might be the problem. Not to simply look at one element and not all the other toxins is junk science. The scientific papers you are depending on nothing but industry produced junk science.
@Jolo5305 And I don't know how to make it any clearer to you that thimerosol is only one potential toxin in a vaccine there are others. To test a vaccine against itself sans only one element is not a true test of the vaccine it is only a test of that one element. Ergo the nicotine vs no nicotine and ignoring all the other toxins which make up a cigarette. Also lacking are any studies on vaccine interactions with other vaccines.
A study by researchers at the UC Davis M.I.N.D. Institute has found that the seven- to eight-fold increase in the number children born in California with autism since 1990 cannot be explained by either changes in how the condition is diagnosed or counted Jan 09 issue journal of Epidemiology,
CDC Chief Gerberding, admits that Vaccines Trigger Autism youtube v=Dh-nkD5LSIg
drtenpenny. com/vaccinated_vs_unvaccinated_survey. aspx SurveyUSA of Verona NJ, conducted a telephone survey
@Jolo5305 Well I am so sorry you are retarded because I posted an easy link to the youtube video of the Head of the CDC admitting that the MMR can trigger autism in children who have a mitochondrial disorder. 1 in 50 kids has this disorder that is 2% of the population. But instead of testing for these kids we are arguing over vaccines for all kids. Saying screw the 2% who have a 30% chance of a adverse vaccine outcome. It is like saying there is no such thing as an allergic reaction.
@Jolo5305 Critique of the most often presented proof of a lack of vaccine connect to Autism. fourteenstudies. org/studies_mmr. html remove spaces.
"I think that the government or certain public officials in the government have been too quick to dismiss ... without studying the population that got sick. I think public health officials have been too quick to dismiss the hypothesis as irrational without sufficient studies of causation." Dr. Bernadine Healy, former Director of (NIH),
@libertyfizz Read Mark Crislips commentary on 14 studies. He is so not in the pay of drug companies that he won't even eat pizza at catered seminars.
On Science based medicine. From 14,000 children studied: “We could find no convincing evidence that early exposure to thimerosal had any deleterious effect on neurologic or psychological outcome when given according to an accelerated schedule.”
@Jolo5305 This is another example of comparing 1 pack a day smokers with 2 pack a day smokers and claiming that cigarettes don't increase a risk for cancer. Certainly there are people like yourself who believe in the vaccine dogma and refuse real scientific investigation with double blind studies. They can't make an ethic claim against a random survey of health outcomes of vaccinated vs un-vaccinated populations. Yet that study one that was requested by Congress in 1982 still not done.
@libertyfizz What doctor in their right mind would give fake vaccines to someone to do a test? Doctors have to be ethical, at least the ones I go to are.
@Jolo5305 They aren't being ethical because vaccines are a drug. All drugs should be tested in double blind studies not exemptions. And this is beside the point there are currently enough unvaccinated from all different economic and genetic backgrounds. A survey of health outcomes for the vaccinate vs the unvaccinate population is very possible. And you can't claim ethics as a reason not to do it. It is a survey which the CDC was ordered to do back in 1982 why haven't they done it?
@Jolo5305 Mark Crislips is a Quack which is ironic calling his site Quack watch. He claims that diet is not a factor in wellness. I would have to say there are literally thousands of studies which would say other wise. I guess Registered Dietitians should pack it in Crislips knows best. Many drug discoveries came for plant material that native peoples would use. Aspirin being the most familiar to people. Crislips if discovered today would call Aspirin quackery.
@libertyfizz So let's review, you say Wakefield's study has been replicated, but provide no evidence. You call Crislip a quack, but provide no evidence.
How much evidence would you like that Wakefield is a liar and a fraud? All you have are statements without evidence.
Google 9 Questions 9 answers Crislip
Read his commentary on sciencebased medicine and then come back with your rejoinder. He cites studies in the efficacy of vaccines and everything.
@Jolo5305 He sights vaccine manufactures bought and paid for studies. Sorry but if you are going to call Wakefield a quack due to conflicts of interest you can't turn around and sight studies which are full of conflicts of interest.
@Jolo5305 Wakefield only presented one theory nothing to do with mercury. Didn't draw a conclusion. There are other theories concerning vaccines. One is the lack of vitamin D during pregnancy or a genetic factor plus environmental element and vaccines are an environmental element. By denying scientific study of the effected population and vaccines to figure out if babies who have a similar weakness might need to have a different vaccine schedule is simply criminal.
@libertyfizz So higher autism rates are not caused by Hep B? Can you start clearing up what your message is? Is it that mercury in vaccines cause autism, the accelerated rate of vaccines causes autism, or is it that the Hep B vaccine causes autism? I am losing track of what your actual message is.
@Jolo5305 The vaccine manufactures refuse and continue to block a survey of random vaccinated and unvaccinated for their health outcomes. Just this past July some researches did do a study of the current vaccine schedule on monkeys. ane. pl/showarticle. php?art=7020 (remove spaces) Influence of pediatric vaccines on amygdala growth and opioid ligand binding in rhesus macaque infants. The vaccinated monkey showed similar brain damage as shown in many PDD Autistic kids.
@libertyfizz Is this the Hewittson study on 9 macaques given vaccine and thimerosol then compared to 2 that were given a saline solution? This is bad science because it uses such a small amount in both the test and the control group.
Also Hewitson should have disclosed her Conflict of Interest; she has a child in the Autism Omnibus case...
I couldn't get the link to work, sorry so I am guessing this is thestudy you are talking about.
@Jolo5305 Here you go again conflicts of interest argument seems to only be relevant on the side that wants further study. But point out the 100s of millions and billions of dollars that big pharma pours into the pockets of government regulators, scientist and doctors that is ignored. You are constantly making the argument from authority fallacy. Why not have scientist from both sides do a study of infant monkeys and group with USA vaccine schedule and a group without?
@libertyfizz So you are saying it is the accelerated rate of vaccinations in the US not thimerosol in the vaccines? I wish you people would make up your mind., this shifting of goal posts (frst mercury, now accelerated rate), what will you do when that is proven false as well?
@Jolo5305 That is a bull shit argument because vaccines in of themselves like every other drug were never subjected to that same double blind studies even on primates. (so you can't dodge behind some ethical claim.) Mercury poisoning or even heavy metal poisoning tends to cause brain damage so it was a logical suspect. If you just test nicotine in cigarettes you could say that smoking doesn't increase cancer risk. Because you are ignoring the entire composition of the product in the study.
@wafflezorz1 You take the amount of mercury in the tuna fish sandwich and inject that directly into your veins then we will believe you. So go on make a youtube video of you injecting the equivalent amount of mercury you would find in the average tuna fish sandwich and I will believe you. I strongly suggest you don't do that because by injecting directly into your blood stream you are bypassing your digestive system which is set up to remove toxins from your body.
Vaccines are only 2% of the drug industry. They are not were drug companies make the big bucks! They get the most money from things like anti-depressants and cholesterol medications, because people take those for years! Vaccines are a one time thing. The
@wafflezorz1 That little piece of propaganda takes advantage of people's complete lack of knowledge of profit margins. Some companies only operate on a 2% profit margin. And the vaccine pushers recommend people take all sorts of vaccines on an annual basis. If the vaccines are making people sicker so they have to purchase more drugs that 2% will increase. Now there are vaccines I will even admit are worth the risk for the benefit but not all vaccines.
@Jolo5305 Wakefield published a case study with a hypothesis. His paper never was a study it never said vaccines cause autism. It presented a hypothesis that it might be possible and needed further study. For this there was a massive witch-hunt. His wasn't and isn't the only paper which indicates a possible link with a vaccine and problems. He was not found guilty of fraud btw he was found guilty of not disclosing a financial tie to a possible conflict of interest.
- Why has no one ever been ever to replicate his study
- Why did his data differ from hospital records
- Why did he say "I can't support the continued use of these three vaccines, given in combination, until this issue has been resolved.", if his was not about his study
- Why did he not disclose he had been hired by a lawyer to find a link?
- Why did he not disclose he was developing his own single measles vaccine?
@Jolo5305 You are going on about Wakefield and ignoring any other research. Concerning other vaccines other than just the MMR.
Why don't so many of the CDC researchers and administrators disclose their conflicts of interest? Why don't research centers disclose their funding from vaccine manufactures? Why has Brian Deer refused to disclose his financial ties to vaccine manufactures? Why was Brian Deer against journalistic ethics standards allowed to report on a story which he instigated?
@Jolo5305 I did answer your questions you never answered mine.
How about all the conflicts of interest on the vaccine pusher side? Many worth millions of dollars. Which pale in comparison the smoking gun of Wakefield's 400k.
Sad there is no right of discovery in the UK if Brian Deer had pulled that crap in the US the Lawyers for Wakefield could have demanded the financial records for Deer. There is significant reason to believe he is a vaccine manufacture goon.
@libertyfizz I missed where you explained why his data was different then the hospital records, could you show me that? I also missed where you explained his comment about MMR, and his (lack of) disclosure about developing his own single vaccine, failure to replicate his study, his failure to disclose that he was hired by a lawyer trying to find a link to MMR (which still has not been found). Those are plenty, then we can look at your questions.
@Jolo5305 Here again you are going on about Wakefield. He is not the only one. I have listed several links. Hospitals never took any biopsies the differences aren't in the tissue's studied.
Wakefield's lack of disclosure is no more worse than pro-vac side multiple lack of disclosures.
Wakefield's single vaccine is a distraction. There are public domain single shot formulas available. Wakefield had no ability to corner the market even if MMR was replaced.
@Jolo5305 Answer: Who wants the career ending grief. Wakefield got some Japanese researchers to replicate his study. But isn't allowed to demonstrate findings in other children. But the study which was suppose to refute Wakefield and funded by vaccine manufactures never took any biopsies of intestinal tissue of PDD-Nos the group of kids that typically regresses into Autism. Or if they did they excluded them from their study results. ncbi.nlm.nih. gov/pmc/articles/PMC2526159/
@libertyfizz I clicked the link, and I read the conclusions:This study provides strong evidence against association of autism with persistent MV RNA in the GI tract or MMR exposure.
Bear in mind, Wakefield made up his results (back to being a liar and a fraud).
@Jolo5305 I was pointing out the flaw in the study that was suppose to be proof. They didn't look at the same sort of subjects. So their conclusion was misleading and a waste of paper.
@libertyfizz Could you give me a link to the japanese research? The Danish study by Madsen et al which was a study of autism from 1971-2000. In this period the amount of thimerosol went from 400mg to 250 to 0. In that period autism rates should go down if mercury is related to autism, but since there was no change from 1970-1990 and an increase after it was removed, one could reasonably suggest they are not related.
@Jolo5305 The Danish study was seriously flawed in that the Danish did broaden the definition for autism. This created an artificial increase in autism rates. A complete critic of this flawed study. nationalautismassociation. org/library/Denmark%20MMR%20Study%20Assessment. pdf (If you are too stupid to remove spaced I can't help you.)
The children recruited (for the experiment) were from an MMR campaign and as such, their parents were inclined to blame MMR already.
- why did one parent state this:"From the information you provided me on our son, who I was shocked to hear had been included in their published study," said the father of a boy from northern California, who was admitted, at age 5, to Wakefield’s research, "the data clearly appeared to be distorted."
@Jolo5305 I am not here defending Wakefield. I am only pointing out that it was misrepresented in the press. If you bother to read the 5 page case study no where does Wakefield draw the conclusion that MMR causes Autism. In fact the paper states clearly that it is a hypothesis which requires further study as he can't rule the MMR out as a cause. This was in 1998 and you are still going on like it is the only research and Wakefield is the only vaccine skeptical scientist.
@Jolo5305 I have done so before but here is a link to a site that has links to several studies. 14studies. org/ourstudies. html
You fall for the logic fallacies of: Argument from authority and you use the same defense the tobacco industry, used “correlation is not causation” . Based on one discredited Demark study using statistical tricks to claim no link and a private one comparing vaccinated population vs similar unvaccinated population indicating a link.
From the CDC website "Since 2001, with the exception of some influenza (flu) vaccines, thimerosal is not used as a preservative in routinely recommended childhood vaccines." Looks like everyone agreed that thimerosal was not good for you. Glad they took it out.
@loufromlou Wait while they force vaccines on us, at gun point - the crazies who run the vaccine companies want to see it happen, and the shareholders of those companies are cheering for it to happen.
@DickGhostmoon Depends, CDCs website lists MANDATED vaccines. MANDATED sure does seem like you have no choice. Most states in the USA only allow for religious exemption to these mandated vaccines but you don't find that information with the CDC. Show concern as a parent of a premature baby who only weighs 5 pounds about newborn vaccines. And don't know about religious exemptions, the vaccine pushers won't tell you they won't even delay as CDC recommends. Why? no legal liability.
Well, if you say it over and over again and sound like you really mean it, then it must be true. Sad. This kind of emotional argument is all the vaccine deniers have. And yet they've fooled so many.
Dick you do realise that Factor VIII was a drug.. not a Vaccine. Ah well your research (which just seems to be watching conspiracy theory youtube videos) seems to have failed you again..
Moreover, it's been studied numerous times by reputable scientists and been published in medical journals, (and I'll send you links if requested), that the amount of mercury present in thimerosal is so insignificant that the only side effect that it CAN be linked with is a slight redness on the area that the shot was applied.
Whyyyyy do evidence and science and actual scientifically based studies crack you up? Because you have a completely retarded preconceived notion based on no evidence? Yeah sooo funny. Moron
All of the studies on autism being linked to vaccines all reference one single study from the Lancet medical Journal, who has since retracted that study. There is no evidence that autism is caused by vaccinations, and in fact the evidence shows that there is no link. After further studies were done this is the scientific consensus.
Here's a funny little snippet of fact: both me, and my two sisters, my best two friends, and their three brothers all got the same vaccines, covering all kinds of wonderful diseases.. with mercury..
we're all fine, no autism, no brain damage.. i'm receiving the 3rd shot in my Hepatitis vaccine soon since i'll be needing it due to working at hospitals, the same vaccine all my classmates are getting, and ALL hospital workers in Denmark for free, with mercury.. no brain damage, no autism :)
Are you saying that taking a group of people and exposing them to vaccines and seeing if it causes autism or brain damage isn't a scientific approach? Are you kidding me? That's what science is. Take a control group and put them to the test. Yes in order to be conclusive you'd need multiple groups. But it's a start, and it's not the first time I've heard it.
@SpecialAtheistsUnit There have never ever been any double blind vaccine studies ever on any vaccine. The CDC has never done a survey of random selected vaccinated vs un-vaccinated kids. There has been such a survey done but the people who are blind to all the CDC conflicts of interest will claim that study being funded by an Autism group one. The random study showed a 155% increase in autism in the vaccinated group vs the un-vaccinated.
Umm, it's not loony if it's true. Every credible scientific source says that vaccines and autism share no link. SOME credible medical sources say they do share a link. ALL of those sources reference the exact same study. Don't believe me? Check *your* sources.
yep.. you're ranting about a safety mechanism causing problems which it's been shown not to cause after all..
Did you forget to consider the REASON mercury is used in vaccines?
Its used in them to prevent bacterial growth from contaminating the vaccines so we do not inject bacteria cultures straight into the blood of the vaccinees, something which would be by far more lethal than autism, which again has not been shown to even be correlated to vaccinations... get an education!
What on earth does that have to do with the topic?
Please, if you're trying to make some sort of a point, at least have the curtesy and courage to argue your case, lesst you be willing to submit to entirely well-earned ridicule for spouting nonsense in the absense of sensible arguments...
Yes, laugh - its the best you can do, and the only thing suitable of a clown like yourself ; you sir are of the lowest and most despicable morality - you spread fear, and you sow dislike - you will reap your rewards, mark my words.
@BrendanIsCool lol. yeah I do sound a bit stupid in this video, but I don't care because murcury causes autism and the message is more important than me.
@BrendanIsCool Well #1: mercury doesn't cause autism. we don't really know what causes autism. One of the ingredients of thimerosal is a type of organomercury. Can you name it, then elaborate on the properties and biochemical actions of it?
@riseofatheism Wakefield was crucified for financial conflicts of interests. Yet vaccine pushers paid for studies loaded with the opinions of people who stand to make millions of dollars are accepted without any question. Never ask yourself why the CDC hasn't completed a study they were charged to do in 1982 to compare the health outcomes of vaccinated kids vs un-vaccinated kids?
I'm quite ashamed to have one of my fellow country man speak so savage scaremongering in all my life.. tell me these conclusive reputable studies your talking about. From your immense research you have done you don't seem to even mention that Thimerosol is Ethylmercury not just MERCURY look up the difference. You talk about cost effectiveness.. again from your knowledgable research you fail to mention that GPs infact just about brake even or lose money on Vaccines...
No good luck to you sir. Lets hope enough people keep getting vaccinated so that we keep to the herd immunity threshold and keep you well. Believe me you don't want to come down with the diseases we have vaccinated against.
The NWO & 'Big Phama@ have put mercury in the vaccine by design to kill you. Google eugenics & depopulation plan. No one needs a jab for the Flu, just take 4000 IU's of Vit D per day & Colloidal silver.
You are right on the money, but I'd recommend not taking any vaccines. It's more than thimerosal.
Look at the horror stories from the swine flu vaccine. The mainstream media ignores 99 percent of them. It's a disgusting way for big pharma to make billions off the vaccines and poor health that results from them.
Here's an interesting read:
70 Swine Flu Vaccine Stories - How it Ruined People's Lives
absolutely conclusive? If you had ever paid any attention in your high school science class you would know that science cannot prove ANYTHING. It's not how the scientific method works. I understand that it's good idea to be informed about the potential risk of any medical procedure (vaccines included) but do you realize what a horrible risk you take by suggesting that people NOT vaccinate their children?
Also, Googling "amesh" won't get you anything. It's amish. Go back to school
Science CAN prove - it's called scientific evidence. We are not saying don't vaccinate- we are simply saying don't take vaccinations containing Thimerosal-(Mercury) and aluminum, and antifreeze and all the other toxins they inject into infants, children, and adults. You really need to read the label and ingredients right before the vaccine iis drawn into the syringe. You need to read the ingredients. The mercury (thimerosal) is most commonly found in multi-dose vials- meaning 3 vaccines in one.
Yes friend but the medical mafia has the best propaganda agents on the planet, doctors. People believe their doctors and the doctors actually believe they are saving people by administering these vaccines. In many ways medicine is still in its dark ages. Great video you are absolutely right. People on this planet have not been getting a fair shake for long enough. We should all be living in abundance but the greed of a few has slowed us down. The light is already in circulation u share it.
I love it, "it comes from universities" and "it is conclusive on the internet." Jesus, this guy is really trying to do something good but if he only knew vaccines contain 1/500 of the amount to be toxic in anyway shape or form. READ A BOOK
They also disguised the name Poisoning with Autism. What's worse is the "Industry" that has been built around "autism." It's creating a lot of new jobs but no effective treatment because it's a result of vaccine toxins. The gluten connection to Autism is only a theory and is not conclusive.
Thimerosal has never been tested or considered as it is ethylmercury. When studies were done for safe levels they used methymercury as the tested form, it is not the same. Look at pictures of children before and after their mmr, notice a droopy eye? Looks like a stroke doesn't it...look at the flapping..looks a bit like cp doesn't it..yes we damage kids terribly.
Thanks, a sincere message from you. They did not take thimerosal out btw, it's in most at low levels ,if not an "active" ingredient they don't need to label it. MMR never had thimerosal however, it was often given at the same visit with those that did and do.
Thanks funnynuf, the H1N1 swine flu jab contains thimerosal and squalene. I'd rather be injected with a diseased wort-hog than take the swine flu jabs.
prehaps your info wrong translantic ,theres no save level of mercury either ,and by experiance , i can tell you its not good , i had a alergic response when i got my shots , while i was still young , so i only had a few , thank god
My daughter was a perfectly health, normally developing toddler. She had an MMR vaccine and three weeks later stopped developing properly and began showing her symptoms of Autism. I had no idea then what was wrong with her, and it took two years before she was diagnosed, but I believe that vaccine is what caused or triggered her autism, and I don't care what ANYONE says, I saw it, I live it, so save your negative comments because I don't care what you have to say, period.
No not anymore. Flu vaccines still have, but not the routine childhood ones - the manufacturers have produced Thiomersal free alternatives already as a precaution just in case the minute amount of mercury has any theoretical harm and are wildly used already
Yep you're right - (alternatives) meaning if you don't request the specific alternative you get the default murcury based drug. Most people don't have a clue that they have a choice.
My understanding is that the manufacturers have stopped the production of the ones containing thiomersal. Only some of the adult ones still have thiomersals. It is financially and logistically difficult for them to produce two different versions for the childhood vaccines and so now the technology is possible now they have stopped producing the thiomersal containing ones now.
It's been a few months since I've read the reports, and you could be right, but I just don't trust any type of vaccine at all. I don't trust the goverment. I don't trust my Doctor. I only trust my own research.
Good advice. And to think that the media is still trying to tell us that mercury is ok for us- when it's a known neurotoxin. Talk about insanity.
Don't forget ALUMINUM is also a major neurotoxin and it is used as an adjuvant in nearly all shots. so don't think that if it doesn't have thimerosal it's fine- check for aluminum, too. It is linked to Alzheimer's and neurodegenerative diseases.
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mytuberocks1000 6 months ago
I agree that there should not be any mercury in any type of vaccination due to the risk of getting autism. Autism is connected to vaccines.
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Yes, people do have to be warned of the side effects of vaccinations. I did find one website for vaccinations that did speak in detail of the side effects and who should and should not get vaccinations, the truth at last! That's all people want is the truth so they can decide for themselves if they want to be vaccinated. Thanks for your video.
bowenfarm1 10 months ago 2
"Thus, based on this body of evidence, the committee concludes that the evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism."
I hope you learn something!
hpdutra 1 year ago
jns124able this is true. I don't like when people post videos like this one stating something as fact, when they dont have the proper evidence to support it, and possibly mislead others.
staceys162000 1 year ago
@staceys162000 Well if you don't like it then don't watch it.
DickGhostmoon 1 year ago 2
HEY! When current studies completely and conclusively discredit (it was NEVER demonstrated that thimerosal caused autism so your sources are questionable) you should TAKE DOWN inaccurate garbage posts like this.
Thimerosal is not to disguise the term mercury (ethyl-mercury to be exact)...and this is much less toxic than methyl-mercury(the kind in tuna). You dont even have the fundamentals and then claim to have done exhaustive research...SHAME ON YOU bud.
jns124able 1 year ago
@jns124able Say what you want, insult me all you like but the truth will always be the truth.
DickGhostmoon 1 year ago
@DickGhostmoon Say what I want? What Im saying is responsible and informed. Saying "Shame on you" is not an insult, its an admonition. ANY correlation among vaccines and autism have been discredited conclusively by the same science I assume you were using for your springboard originally...but your MALinformed vid is still up...thats a discgrace. Science has discredited the info in your post....leaving it up steers unknowwing people down an outdated path...
jns124able 1 year ago
@jns124able OK, I've linked to more information. Tell me specifically what you disagree with and I will be glad to remove this video if your argument holds up to the "Science" you talk of. Private message me, If you're science holds up to scrutiny then I will delete the video, now I can't say fairer than that can I?
DickGhostmoon 1 year ago
@DickGhostmoon Certainly. "you HAVE to get the one with the mercury taken out other wise youre gonna get autism or brain damage"..."it's conclusive on the internet"...you calim there are 200 studies and you then say youve read these studies. I would like a list of the 200 studies youve read if you dont mind, for starters which conlusively correlate autism and brain damage to vaccines/thimerosal. Apparently these reputable sources evaded my literature searches while studying medicine.
jns124able 1 year ago
@jns124able Stop being silly.
DickGhostmoon 1 year ago
@DickGhostmoon "stop being silly"? this is your reply? I dont know why I expected anything more...lulz
FAIL
jns124able 1 year ago
@DickGhostmoon The same "science" you are inciting has shown NO correlation between autism and vaccines to the point that it is laughable. Why would you hold to outdated information....unless you only hold to info that promotes a particular message YOU want to assert. ah. got it.
The new info doesnt point to what you want it to say...dude there is NO CURRENT evidence linking autism to vaccines. read something current. And keep with the times.
jns124able 1 year ago
@DickGhostmoon The truth will always be the truth...what the hell does that mean? That you refuse to alter a position based on new evidence (which is, by the way, the hallmark of learning). I change my recommendation based on evidence...I suggest you drop you absolutist attitude and do the same...
jns124able 1 year ago
TRUUEE THIS
Hannahwateridge09 1 year ago
It was just shown recently that there is NO link between autism and vaccines. People need to stop jumping to conclusions.
staceys162000 1 year ago
@staceys162000 What's your source? You've got to be careful because if your source is a vaccine manufacturer like GSC then obviously they will say their is no link to autism when there clearly is a link.
DickGhostmoon 1 year ago
@DickGhostmoon whats your educational background Im wondering...
jns124able 1 year ago
@staceys162000 shut up it happened to my family member
Hannahwateridge09 1 year ago
@staceys162000 what bugs me is when new evidence becomes available, idiots decide it doesnt coincide with their personal agenda and leave up stupid videos like this one which clearly demonstrate this guy is not to be trusted.
jns124able 1 year ago
I have looked into it. It is true. Think about it, if you only get a vaccine once in your life how much money can a company make off of that? But if you are taking 30 pills a month for 10 years how much money do you think they make? The fear over vaccines is balogna. The mercury in them is nearly nothing. Fish sandwhichs contain more. It is the truth, but you have already decided what is truth and won't listen to science, reason, or common sense.
wafflezorz1 1 year ago 2
@wafflezorz1 Roll your sleeves up and get the vaccine quick. Hurry up and get autism so I won't have to read silly comments from you. Autistic people can't function properly to write comments, wait, I think its too late.
DickGhostmoon 1 year ago
@DickGhostmoon I have autism and I can make comments on youtube you prick. For the record I did get vaccinated as a kid and I don't blame it for my autism, so shut the fuck up.
demon515 1 year ago 2
@demon515 And I bet you don't blame the clouds for the rain either.
DickGhostmoon 1 year ago
@DickGhostmoon Witless comebacks are no substitute for scientific fact.
demon515 1 year ago
@demon515 I am really glad someone is on my side. Apparently DickGhostmoon doesn't even understand that there is the "autism spectrum." I just can't believe some people are so ignorant, I keep thinking about the Salem Witch Trials. I guess people will always find some idiotic falsehood and believe it no matter what anyone else says.
wafflezorz1 1 year ago
@DickGhostmoon Wow, you don't know much do you? Go read any of Temple Grandin's books, she is a freaking genius (Dr of Animal Science and a professor) as well as an autistic.
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 I recently say the movie about her life. She is so amazing. I love that phrase of hers "I am different not less." So true.
wafflezorz1 1 year ago
@wafflezorz1 But what if the vaccines were damaging you in such as way that you would be dependent on drugs for rest of your life? What would that be worth to the Pharmaceutical companies? Wouldn't it be worth enough to fake up studies to pay off spokes people to bribe government officials with high paying industry jobs and to fool the lazy media?
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz I think that discussion is more for AbveTopSecret's web site where they are rampant with conspiracy theories.
After all, what if aliens are doing it to make us more susceptible to mind rays?
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 Well you seem to believe conspiracy that people want to infect the world.
It is due to greed not aliens or any other bullshit you want to attach to people who are growing concerned that current vaccine schedule may be to many too soon for a vulnerable population who haven't developed natural immunity. That a vaccine over load may actually cause damage to natural immune responses and lead to auto immune problems. Problems which require lifelong medical care.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz Double-blind studies are used to account for the placebo effect. I don't think that the placebo effect will have any effect on the diseases and illnesses which vaccines are designed to prevent. Stop throwing out words, which you heard on some stupid youtube video, it doesn't make your point any more true, it only serves to point out just how wrong and misguided you are.
wafflezorz1 1 year ago
@wafflezorz1 Double blind studies are also used to gauge over all safety not just placebo effect. They are also used to help eliminate the testers bias concerning a product for which there may be a conflict of interest or desired result bias. So stop throwing out misguided stupid stuff you want to believe from some website or youtube video. It just serves to point out how wrong you are.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz Ok, say you are right. No double blind studies have been done. So what? That doesn't prove that they are dangerous. The reason more people are being diagnosed with autism is not because of vaccines, it is because we, the public, are more aware of autism. 70 years ago kids, who today would be put somewhere on the autism spectrum, were diagnosed with "Childhood Psychosis." Causation is not correlation.
wafflezorz1 1 year ago
@wafflezorz1 A study by researchers at the UC Davis M.I.N.D. Institute has found that the seven- to eight-fold increase in the number children born in California with autism since 1990 cannot be explained by either changes in how the condition is diagnosed or counted. You will have to google it.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@wafflezorz1 You are ignoring how many vaccines that are in the works and that they want to make mandatory. They don't do double blind testing of what is essentially a new drug and place it on the market. Then they make a requirement for multiple doses of that same vaccine because it isn't effective in all. Most studies have small number of subjects tested for extremely short periods of time. And since they have special government protected status they don't have to be as careful.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
Amount of mercury a child receives from all vaccines in total is 1/9th that which they would get from a tuna sandwich.
wafflezorz1 1 year ago
@wafflezorz1 Heard that before, if you look into it you'll find its baloney.
DickGhostmoon 1 year ago
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Jolo5305 1 year ago
@DickGhostmoon Except that they removed thimerosol from vaccines about ten years ago.
FYI, thimerosal is a mercury-based preservative used in the manufacturing process of multidose vaccines.
Further to this, Canada still uses thimerosol in multidose vaccines yet the autism rate in Canada is lower than the autism rate in the US. Why is that?
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 I bet you never compared the vaccine schedule of Canada vs the US. Canada doesn't give any repeat any vaccines at birth they do not inflict the HepB vaccine on newborns and wait til 2 months old for first shots. CDC says HepB is counter indicated for people with a yeast allergy. Yeast allergy scratch tests are not given. The USA gives first round of shots at 1 month. You are comparing apples vs oranges.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz To clarify both the newborn and 1first month shot are both HepB shots in the USA vs zero vaccines for the Canadian babies under 2 months of age. In Europe they don't recommend the HepB til at least 3 months and allow for that vaccine to be delayed in infants. Just like pedophiles the HepB pushers know these babies can't testify.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz So the higher autism rate is because of Hepatis B shots at birth?
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 Hepatis B has been known to cause severe reactions and death in newborns. ITBC New York Medical examiner's report on a Vaccine-Induced Encephalitis as a result of newborn HepB vaccine. VAERS vaccine injury staff refused to include that report. Which kind of leaves doubt as to how many reports are refused. The possibility HEPb in newborns and infants is one of many and/or in combination with others a factor. Maybe A statistical review of similar populations with different vac.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz So you have no evidence of any sort is what you are saying, compared to hundreds, if not thousands, of studies that show vaccinations are not related to autism?
Jolo5305 1 year ago 2
@Jolo5305 Name one double blind vaccine study ever done? The CDC only claims 22 studies. But none are random/ double blind and tend to concentrate on tiny detail and ignore other factors.
There is a study of random un-vaccinated population vs a random vaccinated population. It showed a 155% increase in autism among the vaccinated. A study which statistically disproved the misdiagnosis claims for increased autism cases. CDC Head saying MMR can cause autism like symptoms.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz Are you truly suggesting that doctors give fake vaccines to one group of children and real vaccines to the rest to see what the autism rates are? Doctors cannot do that, something about ethics...
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 So it would be ok for cigarette manufactures to test 1 pack a day smokers vs 2 pack a day smokers and compare their cancer rates and determine that cigarettes don't cause cancer? Did you know one of the studies which cigarette manufactures did isolated nicotine. They found no statistical difference in cancer rates of lab rats with and without nicotine. Then used that research to say cigs didn't cause cancer ignoring all other toxins in cigs.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz How is testing cancer rates between smokers (who smoke from their own free choice) the same as giving fake vaccines to someone?
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 The point and you obviously are missing it intentionally is that the type of studies which have been done are not double blind. It is irresponsible to say vaccines have been checked and proven safe when every other drug on the planet before it can be declared safe is given a double blind study.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 How is it the same you are saying that giving a vaccine with mercury is the same as one without and which means all the other elements in the vaccine are still present. That is what a double blind study is for to test a suspected agent then through process of elimination work out which element might be the problem. Not to simply look at one element and not all the other toxins is junk science. The scientific papers you are depending on nothing but industry produced junk science.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz There is no thimerosol in vaccines anymore!
I don't know of any other way to make that clear to you
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 And I don't know how to make it any clearer to you that thimerosol is only one potential toxin in a vaccine there are others. To test a vaccine against itself sans only one element is not a true test of the vaccine it is only a test of that one element. Ergo the nicotine vs no nicotine and ignoring all the other toxins which make up a cigarette. Also lacking are any studies on vaccine interactions with other vaccines.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@Jolo5305
A study by researchers at the UC Davis M.I.N.D. Institute has found that the seven- to eight-fold increase in the number children born in California with autism since 1990 cannot be explained by either changes in how the condition is diagnosed or counted Jan 09 issue journal of Epidemiology,
CDC Chief Gerberding, admits that Vaccines Trigger Autism youtube v=Dh-nkD5LSIg
drtenpenny. com/vaccinated_vs_unvaccinated_survey. aspx SurveyUSA of Verona NJ, conducted a telephone survey
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz I don't see a mention of vaccines being the cause either...
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 Well I am so sorry you are retarded because I posted an easy link to the youtube video of the Head of the CDC admitting that the MMR can trigger autism in children who have a mitochondrial disorder. 1 in 50 kids has this disorder that is 2% of the population. But instead of testing for these kids we are arguing over vaccines for all kids. Saying screw the 2% who have a 30% chance of a adverse vaccine outcome. It is like saying there is no such thing as an allergic reaction.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 Critique of the most often presented proof of a lack of vaccine connect to Autism. fourteenstudies. org/studies_mmr. html remove spaces.
"I think that the government or certain public officials in the government have been too quick to dismiss ... without studying the population that got sick. I think public health officials have been too quick to dismiss the hypothesis as irrational without sufficient studies of causation." Dr. Bernadine Healy, former Director of (NIH),
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz Read Mark Crislips commentary on 14 studies. He is so not in the pay of drug companies that he won't even eat pizza at catered seminars.
On Science based medicine. From 14,000 children studied: “We could find no convincing evidence that early exposure to thimerosal had any deleterious effect on neurologic or psychological outcome when given according to an accelerated schedule.”
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 This is another example of comparing 1 pack a day smokers with 2 pack a day smokers and claiming that cigarettes don't increase a risk for cancer. Certainly there are people like yourself who believe in the vaccine dogma and refuse real scientific investigation with double blind studies. They can't make an ethic claim against a random survey of health outcomes of vaccinated vs un-vaccinated populations. Yet that study one that was requested by Congress in 1982 still not done.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz What doctor in their right mind would give fake vaccines to someone to do a test? Doctors have to be ethical, at least the ones I go to are.
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 They aren't being ethical because vaccines are a drug. All drugs should be tested in double blind studies not exemptions. And this is beside the point there are currently enough unvaccinated from all different economic and genetic backgrounds. A survey of health outcomes for the vaccinate vs the unvaccinate population is very possible. And you can't claim ethics as a reason not to do it. It is a survey which the CDC was ordered to do back in 1982 why haven't they done it?
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 Mark Crislips is a Quack which is ironic calling his site Quack watch. He claims that diet is not a factor in wellness. I would have to say there are literally thousands of studies which would say other wise. I guess Registered Dietitians should pack it in Crislips knows best. Many drug discoveries came for plant material that native peoples would use. Aspirin being the most familiar to people. Crislips if discovered today would call Aspirin quackery.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz So let's review, you say Wakefield's study has been replicated, but provide no evidence. You call Crislip a quack, but provide no evidence.
How much evidence would you like that Wakefield is a liar and a fraud? All you have are statements without evidence.
Google 9 Questions 9 answers Crislip
Read his commentary on sciencebased medicine and then come back with your rejoinder. He cites studies in the efficacy of vaccines and everything.
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 He sights vaccine manufactures bought and paid for studies. Sorry but if you are going to call Wakefield a quack due to conflicts of interest you can't turn around and sight studies which are full of conflicts of interest.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz Actually I called Wakefield a liar and a fraud...
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 Wakefield only presented one theory nothing to do with mercury. Didn't draw a conclusion. There are other theories concerning vaccines. One is the lack of vitamin D during pregnancy or a genetic factor plus environmental element and vaccines are an environmental element. By denying scientific study of the effected population and vaccines to figure out if babies who have a similar weakness might need to have a different vaccine schedule is simply criminal.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz So higher autism rates are not caused by Hep B? Can you start clearing up what your message is? Is it that mercury in vaccines cause autism, the accelerated rate of vaccines causes autism, or is it that the Hep B vaccine causes autism? I am losing track of what your actual message is.
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 The vaccine manufactures refuse and continue to block a survey of random vaccinated and unvaccinated for their health outcomes. Just this past July some researches did do a study of the current vaccine schedule on monkeys. ane. pl/showarticle. php?art=7020 (remove spaces) Influence of pediatric vaccines on amygdala growth and opioid ligand binding in rhesus macaque infants. The vaccinated monkey showed similar brain damage as shown in many PDD Autistic kids.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz Is this the Hewittson study on 9 macaques given vaccine and thimerosol then compared to 2 that were given a saline solution? This is bad science because it uses such a small amount in both the test and the control group.
Also Hewitson should have disclosed her Conflict of Interest; she has a child in the Autism Omnibus case...
I couldn't get the link to work, sorry so I am guessing this is thestudy you are talking about.
PS, Wakefield was involved again in it as well
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 Here you go again conflicts of interest argument seems to only be relevant on the side that wants further study. But point out the 100s of millions and billions of dollars that big pharma pours into the pockets of government regulators, scientist and doctors that is ignored. You are constantly making the argument from authority fallacy. Why not have scientist from both sides do a study of infant monkeys and group with USA vaccine schedule and a group without?
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz So you are saying it is the accelerated rate of vaccinations in the US not thimerosol in the vaccines? I wish you people would make up your mind., this shifting of goal posts (frst mercury, now accelerated rate), what will you do when that is proven false as well?
How far can you shift the goal posts?
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 That is a bull shit argument because vaccines in of themselves like every other drug were never subjected to that same double blind studies even on primates. (so you can't dodge behind some ethical claim.) Mercury poisoning or even heavy metal poisoning tends to cause brain damage so it was a logical suspect. If you just test nicotine in cigarettes you could say that smoking doesn't increase cancer risk. Because you are ignoring the entire composition of the product in the study.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@wafflezorz1 You take the amount of mercury in the tuna fish sandwich and inject that directly into your veins then we will believe you. So go on make a youtube video of you injecting the equivalent amount of mercury you would find in the average tuna fish sandwich and I will believe you. I strongly suggest you don't do that because by injecting directly into your blood stream you are bypassing your digestive system which is set up to remove toxins from your body.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
Vaccines are only 2% of the drug industry. They are not were drug companies make the big bucks! They get the most money from things like anti-depressants and cholesterol medications, because people take those for years! Vaccines are a one time thing. The
wafflezorz1 1 year ago
@wafflezorz1 That little piece of propaganda takes advantage of people's complete lack of knowledge of profit margins. Some companies only operate on a 2% profit margin. And the vaccine pushers recommend people take all sorts of vaccines on an annual basis. If the vaccines are making people sicker so they have to purchase more drugs that 2% will increase. Now there are vaccines I will even admit are worth the risk for the benefit but not all vaccines.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
You are so wrong, you are not even wrong.
Vaccines do not cause autism, Andrew Wakefield was a liar and a fraud.
Thimerosol was removed from vaccines because anti-vaxers pushed for it, not for any scientific reason.
The Amish do vaccinate and they do have lower rates of autism, it must be because of the vaccinations.
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 Wakefield published a case study with a hypothesis. His paper never was a study it never said vaccines cause autism. It presented a hypothesis that it might be possible and needed further study. For this there was a massive witch-hunt. His wasn't and isn't the only paper which indicates a possible link with a vaccine and problems. He was not found guilty of fraud btw he was found guilty of not disclosing a financial tie to a possible conflict of interest.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz Answer these questions
- Why has no one ever been ever to replicate his study
- Why did his data differ from hospital records
- Why did he say "I can't support the continued use of these three vaccines, given in combination, until this issue has been resolved.", if his was not about his study
- Why did he not disclose he had been hired by a lawyer to find a link?
- Why did he not disclose he was developing his own single measles vaccine?
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 You are going on about Wakefield and ignoring any other research. Concerning other vaccines other than just the MMR.
Why don't so many of the CDC researchers and administrators disclose their conflicts of interest? Why don't research centers disclose their funding from vaccine manufactures? Why has Brian Deer refused to disclose his financial ties to vaccine manufactures? Why was Brian Deer against journalistic ethics standards allowed to report on a story which he instigated?
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz So you are saying you don't want to answer my questions?
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 I did answer your questions you never answered mine.
How about all the conflicts of interest on the vaccine pusher side? Many worth millions of dollars. Which pale in comparison the smoking gun of Wakefield's 400k.
Sad there is no right of discovery in the UK if Brian Deer had pulled that crap in the US the Lawyers for Wakefield could have demanded the financial records for Deer. There is significant reason to believe he is a vaccine manufacture goon.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz I missed where you explained why his data was different then the hospital records, could you show me that? I also missed where you explained his comment about MMR, and his (lack of) disclosure about developing his own single vaccine, failure to replicate his study, his failure to disclose that he was hired by a lawyer trying to find a link to MMR (which still has not been found). Those are plenty, then we can look at your questions.
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 Here again you are going on about Wakefield. He is not the only one. I have listed several links. Hospitals never took any biopsies the differences aren't in the tissue's studied.
Wakefield's lack of disclosure is no more worse than pro-vac side multiple lack of disclosures.
Wakefield's single vaccine is a distraction. There are public domain single shot formulas available. Wakefield had no ability to corner the market even if MMR was replaced.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 Answer: Who wants the career ending grief. Wakefield got some Japanese researchers to replicate his study. But isn't allowed to demonstrate findings in other children. But the study which was suppose to refute Wakefield and funded by vaccine manufactures never took any biopsies of intestinal tissue of PDD-Nos the group of kids that typically regresses into Autism. Or if they did they excluded them from their study results. ncbi.nlm.nih. gov/pmc/articles/PMC2526159/
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz I clicked the link, and I read the conclusions:This study provides strong evidence against association of autism with persistent MV RNA in the GI tract or MMR exposure.
Bear in mind, Wakefield made up his results (back to being a liar and a fraud).
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 I was pointing out the flaw in the study that was suppose to be proof. They didn't look at the same sort of subjects. So their conclusion was misleading and a waste of paper.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz Could you give me a link to the japanese research? The Danish study by Madsen et al which was a study of autism from 1971-2000. In this period the amount of thimerosol went from 400mg to 250 to 0. In that period autism rates should go down if mercury is related to autism, but since there was no change from 1970-1990 and an increase after it was removed, one could reasonably suggest they are not related.
We can talk about pubmed at a later date.
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 The Danish study was seriously flawed in that the Danish did broaden the definition for autism. This created an artificial increase in autism rates. A complete critic of this flawed study. nationalautismassociation. org/library/Denmark%20MMR%20Study%20Assessment. pdf (If you are too stupid to remove spaced I can't help you.)
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz Further what about this:
The children recruited (for the experiment) were from an MMR campaign and as such, their parents were inclined to blame MMR already.
- why did one parent state this:"From the information you provided me on our son, who I was shocked to hear had been included in their published study," said the father of a boy from northern California, who was admitted, at age 5, to Wakefield’s research, "the data clearly appeared to be distorted."
Go read Brian Deer.
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 I am not here defending Wakefield. I am only pointing out that it was misrepresented in the press. If you bother to read the 5 page case study no where does Wakefield draw the conclusion that MMR causes Autism. In fact the paper states clearly that it is a hypothesis which requires further study as he can't rule the MMR out as a cause. This was in 1998 and you are still going on like it is the only research and Wakefield is the only vaccine skeptical scientist.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
@libertyfizz link me to other research that shows the link.
Jolo5305 1 year ago
@Jolo5305 I have done so before but here is a link to a site that has links to several studies. 14studies. org/ourstudies. html
You fall for the logic fallacies of: Argument from authority and you use the same defense the tobacco industry, used “correlation is not causation” . Based on one discredited Demark study using statistical tricks to claim no link and a private one comparing vaccinated population vs similar unvaccinated population indicating a link.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
From the CDC website "Since 2001, with the exception of some influenza (flu) vaccines, thimerosal is not used as a preservative in routinely recommended childhood vaccines." Looks like everyone agreed that thimerosal was not good for you. Glad they took it out.
loufromlou 1 year ago
@loufromlou Wait while they force vaccines on us, at gun point - the crazies who run the vaccine companies want to see it happen, and the shareholders of those companies are cheering for it to happen.
DickGhostmoon 1 year ago
@DickGhostmoon Depends, CDCs website lists MANDATED vaccines. MANDATED sure does seem like you have no choice. Most states in the USA only allow for religious exemption to these mandated vaccines but you don't find that information with the CDC. Show concern as a parent of a premature baby who only weighs 5 pounds about newborn vaccines. And don't know about religious exemptions, the vaccine pushers won't tell you they won't even delay as CDC recommends. Why? no legal liability.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
Well, if you say it over and over again and sound like you really mean it, then it must be true. Sad. This kind of emotional argument is all the vaccine deniers have. And yet they've fooled so many.
ohoulihan 1 year ago
Quote one of "these studies" that you read....Just one. I want to see one, post the fucking link...
You moron
jbsill01 1 year ago
Dick you do realise that Factor VIII was a drug.. not a Vaccine. Ah well your research (which just seems to be watching conspiracy theory youtube videos) seems to have failed you again..
r3ck0r 1 year ago
You mis me really don't you? Just admit it.
DickGhostmoon 1 year ago
@DickGhostmoon you know nothing about medicine.
BrendanIsCool 1 year ago
Moreover, it's been studied numerous times by reputable scientists and been published in medical journals, (and I'll send you links if requested), that the amount of mercury present in thimerosal is so insignificant that the only side effect that it CAN be linked with is a slight redness on the area that the shot was applied.
SpecialAtheistsUnit 2 years ago
lol you atheists crack me up!
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
Whyyyyy do evidence and science and actual scientifically based studies crack you up? Because you have a completely retarded preconceived notion based on no evidence? Yeah sooo funny. Moron
riseofatheism 2 years ago
All of the studies on autism being linked to vaccines all reference one single study from the Lancet medical Journal, who has since retracted that study. There is no evidence that autism is caused by vaccinations, and in fact the evidence shows that there is no link. After further studies were done this is the scientific consensus.
riseofatheism 2 years ago
Here's a funny little snippet of fact: both me, and my two sisters, my best two friends, and their three brothers all got the same vaccines, covering all kinds of wonderful diseases.. with mercury..
we're all fine, no autism, no brain damage.. i'm receiving the 3rd shot in my Hepatitis vaccine soon since i'll be needing it due to working at hospitals, the same vaccine all my classmates are getting, and ALL hospital workers in Denmark for free, with mercury.. no brain damage, no autism :)
GronTheMighty 2 years ago
Hardly a scientific approach, but nice try.
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
did i say that my comment was a scientific approach to debunk your nonsense?
no, i don't believe i did - i stated an anecdote just as you did ; bullshit versus bullshit, nice try ;)
GronTheMighty 2 years ago
Are you saying that taking a group of people and exposing them to vaccines and seeing if it causes autism or brain damage isn't a scientific approach? Are you kidding me? That's what science is. Take a control group and put them to the test. Yes in order to be conclusive you'd need multiple groups. But it's a start, and it's not the first time I've heard it.
SpecialAtheistsUnit 2 years ago
@SpecialAtheistsUnit There have never ever been any double blind vaccine studies ever on any vaccine. The CDC has never done a survey of random selected vaccinated vs un-vaccinated kids. There has been such a survey done but the people who are blind to all the CDC conflicts of interest will claim that study being funded by an Autism group one. The random study showed a 155% increase in autism in the vaccinated group vs the un-vaccinated.
libertyfizz 1 year ago
loony.
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
Umm, it's not loony if it's true. Every credible scientific source says that vaccines and autism share no link. SOME credible medical sources say they do share a link. ALL of those sources reference the exact same study. Don't believe me? Check *your* sources.
SpecialAtheistsUnit 2 years ago
yep.. you're ranting about a safety mechanism causing problems which it's been shown not to cause after all..
Did you forget to consider the REASON mercury is used in vaccines?
Its used in them to prevent bacterial growth from contaminating the vaccines so we do not inject bacteria cultures straight into the blood of the vaccinees, something which would be by far more lethal than autism, which again has not been shown to even be correlated to vaccinations... get an education!
GronTheMighty 2 years ago
Google "Baxter HIV" or follow the link in the description. All the best of luck to you.
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
What on earth does that have to do with the topic?
Please, if you're trying to make some sort of a point, at least have the curtesy and courage to argue your case, lesst you be willing to submit to entirely well-earned ridicule for spouting nonsense in the absense of sensible arguments...
GronTheMighty 2 years ago
lol.
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
Yes, laugh - its the best you can do, and the only thing suitable of a clown like yourself ; you sir are of the lowest and most despicable morality - you spread fear, and you sow dislike - you will reap your rewards, mark my words.
GronTheMighty 2 years ago
lmao
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
Up next in this week's episode of "Dick Reveals" watch dick relay the classical "ROFLPOPZ" to display his superior education and intellect..
GronTheMighty 2 years ago
@DickGhostmoon after watching the video twice, it's clear you're just stupid. You just aren't intelligent and that's ok man
BrendanIsCool 1 year ago
@BrendanIsCool lol. yeah I do sound a bit stupid in this video, but I don't care because murcury causes autism and the message is more important than me.
DickGhostmoon 1 year ago
@DickGhostmoon I would love to see these peer reviewed journal articles you're babbling about.
BrendanIsCool 1 year ago
@BrendanIsCool Well #1: mercury doesn't cause autism. we don't really know what causes autism. One of the ingredients of thimerosal is a type of organomercury. Can you name it, then elaborate on the properties and biochemical actions of it?
BrendanIsCool 1 year ago
@riseofatheism Wakefield was crucified for financial conflicts of interests. Yet vaccine pushers paid for studies loaded with the opinions of people who stand to make millions of dollars are accepted without any question. Never ask yourself why the CDC hasn't completed a study they were charged to do in 1982 to compare the health outcomes of vaccinated kids vs un-vaccinated kids?
libertyfizz 1 year ago
I'm quite ashamed to have one of my fellow country man speak so savage scaremongering in all my life.. tell me these conclusive reputable studies your talking about. From your immense research you have done you don't seem to even mention that Thimerosol is Ethylmercury not just MERCURY look up the difference. You talk about cost effectiveness.. again from your knowledgable research you fail to mention that GPs infact just about brake even or lose money on Vaccines...
r3ck0r 2 years ago
Good luck
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
No good luck to you sir. Lets hope enough people keep getting vaccinated so that we keep to the herd immunity threshold and keep you well. Believe me you don't want to come down with the diseases we have vaccinated against.
r3ck0r 2 years ago
The NWO & 'Big Phama@ have put mercury in the vaccine by design to kill you. Google eugenics & depopulation plan. No one needs a jab for the Flu, just take 4000 IU's of Vit D per day & Colloidal silver.
777newworldlove 2 years ago
I took some colloidal silver recently and it knocked my cold dead in 30 minutes.
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
You are right on the money, but I'd recommend not taking any vaccines. It's more than thimerosal.
Look at the horror stories from the swine flu vaccine. The mainstream media ignores 99 percent of them. It's a disgusting way for big pharma to make billions off the vaccines and poor health that results from them.
Here's an interesting read:
70 Swine Flu Vaccine Stories - How it Ruined People's Lives
fourwinds10(.)com/siterun_data/health/vaccinations/news(.)php?q=1259607109
gomogi1 2 years ago
absolutely conclusive? If you had ever paid any attention in your high school science class you would know that science cannot prove ANYTHING. It's not how the scientific method works. I understand that it's good idea to be informed about the potential risk of any medical procedure (vaccines included) but do you realize what a horrible risk you take by suggesting that people NOT vaccinate their children?
Also, Googling "amesh" won't get you anything. It's amish. Go back to school
vampirerunner 2 years ago
Science CAN prove - it's called scientific evidence. We are not saying don't vaccinate- we are simply saying don't take vaccinations containing Thimerosal-(Mercury) and aluminum, and antifreeze and all the other toxins they inject into infants, children, and adults. You really need to read the label and ingredients right before the vaccine iis drawn into the syringe. You need to read the ingredients. The mercury (thimerosal) is most commonly found in multi-dose vials- meaning 3 vaccines in one.
257Christine 2 years ago
Yes friend but the medical mafia has the best propaganda agents on the planet, doctors. People believe their doctors and the doctors actually believe they are saving people by administering these vaccines. In many ways medicine is still in its dark ages. Great video you are absolutely right. People on this planet have not been getting a fair shake for long enough. We should all be living in abundance but the greed of a few has slowed us down. The light is already in circulation u share it.
irojioqopiewjr 2 years ago
Its good to receive an intelligent comment, thanks for stopping by
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
I love it, "it comes from universities" and "it is conclusive on the internet." Jesus, this guy is really trying to do something good but if he only knew vaccines contain 1/500 of the amount to be toxic in anyway shape or form. READ A BOOK
jbsill01 2 years ago
This is serious to me, with links to the side. H1N1 contains squaline and thimerosal, No silly comments please.
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
No silly videos please... Fred has that covered.
jbsill01 2 years ago
They also disguised the name Poisoning with Autism. What's worse is the "Industry" that has been built around "autism." It's creating a lot of new jobs but no effective treatment because it's a result of vaccine toxins. The gluten connection to Autism is only a theory and is not conclusive.
canaan1967 2 years ago
So if its from the internet i must be true...
RC99RC 2 years ago
info about Thimerosal is on the internet, and it is 50% murcury. What's your point?
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
Thimerosal has never been tested or considered as it is ethylmercury. When studies were done for safe levels they used methymercury as the tested form, it is not the same. Look at pictures of children before and after their mmr, notice a droopy eye? Looks like a stroke doesn't it...look at the flapping..looks a bit like cp doesn't it..yes we damage kids terribly.
funnynuf 2 years ago
Thanks, a sincere message from you. They did not take thimerosal out btw, it's in most at low levels ,if not an "active" ingredient they don't need to label it. MMR never had thimerosal however, it was often given at the same visit with those that did and do.
funnynuf 2 years ago
Thanks funnynuf, the H1N1 swine flu jab contains thimerosal and squalene. I'd rather be injected with a diseased wort-hog than take the swine flu jabs.
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
SAY NO TO THE SWINE FLU SHOT
warning122112 2 years ago
prehaps your info wrong translantic ,theres no save level of mercury either ,and by experiance , i can tell you its not good , i had a alergic response when i got my shots , while i was still young , so i only had a few , thank god
thanks dickghost aswell , your doing a good job
Dutchsmokah 2 years ago
Vaccines will kill you.
mikeosaki 2 years ago
diseases will kill you.
batigol47 2 years ago
My daughter was a perfectly health, normally developing toddler. She had an MMR vaccine and three weeks later stopped developing properly and began showing her symptoms of Autism. I had no idea then what was wrong with her, and it took two years before she was diagnosed, but I believe that vaccine is what caused or triggered her autism, and I don't care what ANYONE says, I saw it, I live it, so save your negative comments because I don't care what you have to say, period.
firegirl147 2 years ago
I'm so sorry it happened to your daughter.
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
Thank you.
firegirl147 2 years ago
Thimerosal, which is what this guy is ranting incoherently about, is not and never was present in the MMR vaccine.
batigol47 2 years ago
You're a fucking idiot.
cjets 2 years ago
I'm not but your kids will be if you inject them with murcury.
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
Childhood vaccine does not contain mercury anymore.
marzsc 2 years ago
They changed the name murcury to Thimerosal. Yes child vaccines bloody well do have mucury in!
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
No not anymore. Flu vaccines still have, but not the routine childhood ones - the manufacturers have produced Thiomersal free alternatives already as a precaution just in case the minute amount of mercury has any theoretical harm and are wildly used already
marzsc 2 years ago
Yep you're right - (alternatives) meaning if you don't request the specific alternative you get the default murcury based drug. Most people don't have a clue that they have a choice.
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
My understanding is that the manufacturers have stopped the production of the ones containing thiomersal. Only some of the adult ones still have thiomersals. It is financially and logistically difficult for them to produce two different versions for the childhood vaccines and so now the technology is possible now they have stopped producing the thiomersal containing ones now.
marzsc 2 years ago
It's been a few months since I've read the reports, and you could be right, but I just don't trust any type of vaccine at all. I don't trust the goverment. I don't trust my Doctor. I only trust my own research.
DickGhostmoon 2 years ago
your research is crap. And doing research with no basic understanding about science is as good as nothing.
vaccines are safe.
what you "believe" is irrelevant. Science is not about "belief", but understanding. And you don't understand a thing, it seems.
transtlantic 2 years ago
You could replace the word "crap" with "heathen" and at least have an intellectually honest argument to make.
bonsallamo 2 years ago
??!??
transtlantic 2 years ago
None of them are "mercury based"
batigol47 2 years ago
ethylmercury is one of the ingredients in thimerosal
ethylmercury is an ethyl group (ethan derived) and mercury. It does not bioaccumulate
I am more than qualified to tell you that vaccines are very safe
BrendanIsCool 2 years ago
Good advice. And to think that the media is still trying to tell us that mercury is ok for us- when it's a known neurotoxin. Talk about insanity.
Don't forget ALUMINUM is also a major neurotoxin and it is used as an adjuvant in nearly all shots. so don't think that if it doesn't have thimerosal it's fine- check for aluminum, too. It is linked to Alzheimer's and neurodegenerative diseases.
sonia989 2 years ago