Little Eagle Great Grand-Son of Chief Path Killer Cherokee Indian

[Letyourlegsspeak]

@IvyLou79. Yes, the creator made us all. Period. What we are discussing is when. As for my "name" I'd like to explain. I helped a teenager with autism to post a video here. He is gifted in one way mainly; he can dance"jump style". It is his best way of expressing himself, so; "Letyourlegsspeak"! I guess it can confuse people so maybe I should change it? If you sant to look at the video search for: Jump in Segerstad

[IvyLou79]

we're all descendants of Adam and Eve so what does it matter? lol...... problem solved. and as for preachin on a name like Letyourleggsspeak...i'm not even gonna touch that. I just meant, it's an Indian video....all Indians are beautiful, and more spiritual than most "Christians" I know...that's all I meant by it. But arguing Noah and Abraham and apes and goats...really? :| it's come down to that anymore? cmon. lol. We all come from ONE, so why argue? Who cares? God's the maker PERIOD.

[EmetTalmudim6]

@IvyLou79

1.See the original context of my posts on this video-That was precisely my point; You get a lot of people-Black Supremacists & White Supremacists who claim they're the REAL INDIAN & THE REAL JEWS-on these videos. In both cases they miss the obvious.

2.But if we do indeed all descend from Adam & Eve, come from One, & God's the maker then there's only one way for ALL to God-Just as the Bible says-Otherwise we do not all stand EQUAL UNDER THE LAW-Spiritually speaking-

[Letyourlegsspeak]

My reason for commenting on the Biblic suggestion, is that I believe the American Indian were situated in America long before the sons of Abraham spread over the world. I also believe that this gentleman Litle Eagle was trying to prove something by riding his bike through all those stares. I hope he reached his dream.

[EmetTalmudim6]

@Letyourlegsspeak Native Americans do indeed predate Abraham. But as I said I'm not claiming they're descendants of Abraham nor does the Bible claim him as the BIOLOGICAL ancestor of all people. That's the problem with an Israelite identification of Native people; the chronology, linguistics, & culture aren't consistant with an Abrahamic origin. It's Noah who is a common ancestor of all humanity, which is entirely compatible with the massive climate change of c10,000 yrs ago.

[Letyourlegsspeak]

@EmerTalmudim6, no doubt you have given the matter a great deal of thought. Of cause Lucy wasn't a human as we see her today. Neither was Ardi who was measured to be 4,4 milion years old. Lucy was 3,2 million years, not one million. If the method of measuring is showing a differens as big as the one between 10.000 and 4.4 million years, why bother using it. Neither Lucy, nor Ardi were apes. Their feet were made to walk upright.

[EmetTalmudim6]

@Letyourlegsspeak

1.When a method's broke you fix it or take its' limited value with a grain of salt til it's fixed or something better comes along. It has value but you weigh it against everything else. Note; Keep in mind God always was, is, & will be eternal. Hence that His creation would reflect His eternality in some limited way is reasonable.

2.So that Lucy & Ardi lacked SOME of MODERN apes' traits makes them related to human? Not all birds fly & they aren't mammals.

[Letyourlegsspeak]

@IvyLou79, I thought I had made it quite clear that it is MY RESPECT FOR THE INDIANS that caused me to comment the video. I, like a lot of other swedes, feel a great empathy for your unjust fate. I know that some swedes came to Delaware a few hundred years ago and lived together with the Native Americans who helped the Swedes against the Dutch. The Dutch won anyway and since then I don't think you can blame us Swedes for stealing your land.

[IvyLou79]

i usually don't comment..but...you all are arguing over Biblical matters on a Cherokee's video.......GIVE INDIANS SOME RESPECT TOO. Jesus. Take land then take over our videos :| SERIOUSLY. Just saying...and Little Eagle, right on, even tho it was 1994, I hope you found what you were looking for and educated many on your journey :)

[EmetTalmudim6]

@IvyLou79 Before Eurocontact we had 1 Triune Creator named Yowah. He sat on 3 white thrones in heaven, alone was God & King, created the world in 7 days, man from dust & woman from his rib.

[EmetTalmudim6]

@IvyLou79 we also believed the righteous would go to be with Yowah & the wicked to a lake of fire, & that the world will end in fire. So we accepted Christianity relatively easily & quickly.

[Letyourlegsspeak]

@EmetTalmudin6, thank you for your Biblic lesson. With no disrespect for you religion, I still claim that it is impossible that persons from the Bible (sons of Abraham) should be anscestors to us all. I'm sure you've heard of the female scelleton found in Africa a couple of years ago. They named her Lucy. The C14-method confirmed that she was one million years old. How does that go with the Bible if it says the Earth is 6 or 10.000 years old?

[EmetTalmudim6]

@Letyourlegsspeak

1.Abraham wasn't everyone's ancestor. The point's you have White & Black racists claiming to be N/A & even when they reject the Bible they use it to promote their ethnocentrism.

2.Lucy was proven to be a primative ape NOT human. That was put to bed academically-but sadly not scholastically-long ago.

3.The Bible doesn't expliciely give a date.

4.The man who invented Rado Carbin Dating admitted a huge margin of error in the method.

[EmetTalmudim6]

@Letyourlegsspeak

5.My point about Shem, Ham, & Japheth is that it's entirely compatible with the genetic fact that there are three or at most four branches of the human family going back c.10,000 yrs (the Negroid, Asiatic/Semitic, & Indo-Aryan). The Out of Africa theory does not explicitly say or definitely prove man originated in Africa; only that the earliest human remains are there & modern humans MAY have branched out from there.

[EmetTalmudim6]

@Letyourlegsspeak

Note; Did you know the Bible indicates the first civilization was AFRO-Asiatic? See Genesis 10; 8-12 & 11; 1-2. Hence, & since the Bible also indicates Pangia (Genesis 10; 25)logic dictates the earliest remains would be in Africa.

[Letyourlegsspeak]

@slamwarrior, I've got to agee with you. There must be other ansestors behind both your and my rases. The First Americans have been in your country for at least 40.000 years. No others before them. The Bible readers often claim that the earth was created 6.000 years ago. that means that Sem, Ham and Japhet who are supposed to be ancestors to us all are at least 34.000 years too late. I have to admit that I'm blond and blue eyed. We have also a history in my Sweden that bring us back 15.000 year

[EmetTalmudim6]

@Letyourlegsspeak Actually, Bible believers are willing to accept 10,000 years. Are you aware that the creator of Radio Carbon Dating acknowledged there's a huge margin of error in his process?

[EmetTalmudim6]

@Letyourlegsspeak what slamwarrior is doing is shoehorning his or her heritage into that of the Jews; Are there Black Jews, yes. But they're Jews because they descend from Shem, Eber, Terah, Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob not because they're Black just as a Keifang Jew is a Jew because of their Abrahamic heritage not their Chinese heritage.

[eyeswoleshut]

On my dad's side im related to him & Path killer

[aprilbrandenburg]

i like this video, one because my moms great great great great grandfather was cheif john ross.

[CairnAngel1]

I'm related to John Ross.

[JahavahrieL]

My Mother lives in Georgia, Warner Robins. I live in Vermont. I am half Cherokee and half Hebraic. Ive always wanted to meet a real fullblooded Cherokee. And do something Historical. The trail of tears As told By Johnny Cash Part 1 and 2. But the unseen Truth Of the Greatest Gift of all The Blessings Not seen With human eyes * The Cherokees We paved a Calvary Of healing tears 4 those In deep despair Darkness of any kind. 2 heal souls Creator b with you. ~JahavahrieL

[gunshow111]

chief pathkiller is my 7th great grand-father....

[tubedude101]

why doesnt ride a horse why a bycicle?

[mtnflr]

@tubedude101 you cannot ride a horse everywhere, especially into towns or cities

[tubedude101]

@mtnflr sure you can its not illegal

[emwbomb3]

pathkiller's pimp

[sunnymars11]

Dad said we are relative of Pathkiller on his mother Faye Crosslin side of family : )

[NewRevolutionLeader]

I would like to know those who think I look Native or not because I was told my father is 1/8 Native and my mother is 1/6 Native. I would like to know if I look like I am Native American in any way to you.

[slamwarrior]

@NewRevolutionLeader No, you look italian and jewish is not a race, jews are just white. Take a dna test to find out! You cant go buy what your parents say because it could be bullshit. dnatribescom is a good dnatest company.

[Forysan]

@slamwarrior almost all Jews have at least some Semitic in them because they descend from Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, & Joseph & his brothers. Long story short, Noah had 3 sons;

Shem is the ancestor of all Asian (including Native Americans) & Middle Eastern peoples

Ham is the ancestor of all Hammitic/Negroid peoples

Japheth is the ancestor of all Japhetic/Indo-Aryan peoples (Though "White" Europeans are actually a mix of Indo-Aryans & earlier peoples-probably Semites & Hammites-)

[slamwarrior]

@Forysan don't feed me your bible bullshit because its a work of fiction and native americans are their own race dna proves this. A real jew looks like an arab (still caucasian) but the jews today are of white ancestry who converted and are of german,polish, and hungarian ancestry. Your fictious bible recorded asian, white, and black in their story but the native american is no where in the bible because when it was made up, no one knew there was another race of people, the bible is bullshit!

[Forysan]

@slamwarrior I just gave you a summary of the Biblical record; Semetic, Hammitic, & Japhetic

(not specific subdivisions after the fact; Hebraic, Mongoloic, Austro-Asiatic, for example).

The record lines up perfectly with the scientific fact that early man was divided into three offshoots;

Asiatic, Negroid, & Japhetic whose common ancestor originated in the Middle East & North Africa.

I dislike the term Caucasian because Indo-Aryans have never been the only people in the Caucases.

[dontquit1000]

@slamwarrior Jews are not white people they are black!

[EmetTalmudim6]

@dontquit1000 Jews are descendants of Shem. Africans are descendants of Ham. Was there intermarriage between them & the descendants of Japheth? Sure, but it's their descent from Shem, Eber, Terah, Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob that makes an Ashkenazi, a Sephardic, or a Falasha or Lemba a Jew not whoever else they intermarried with.

[mallcraze]

why is everyone saying their great great grandfather was john ross? cause they're either lying or they're confused.

yournotpartcherokee . webs . come

[dolo013]

@mallcraze well i dnt thank i am but i have proof tht im part indian , its not cherokee doe its smethin else but my grandma said her mom mom's mom was a squa " wife to an 100% indian chief " and it was a biq picture hangin at above tha sofa at my great grandma's old house but it burned down and she moved but she died last year doe =(

[CairnAngel1]

@mallcraze My grandfater told me I'm related to john ross. (its the truth I am related!)

[scottstounge]

I am the Great Great Grand Daughter of Cherokee Chief John Ross

Dm ROss

[larrygeek]

I AM relitive of John Ross he was my great great great grandfather

[tsukemaru1]

Thats awesome =] you'r 4th generation =]

[aerlinfall]

John Ross was my great grandfather too. He looks sort of like my great grand father Paul Guy, who was his great great grandson. My grandfather, William Ross, who just passed away, looks like John Ross. My dad said his relatives told him at my grandfather's funeral that they were related to John Ross, and that they had records and transcripts that they were indeed his kin. you can look at my grand dad's picture in a link on my account. It's the photobucket one.

[bahacker]

This video was shot on 12/25/1994 not in January as the video states