That's so sad, there was a just split second between that exchange of dialogue and the explosion noise...and in that split second they both must of had frightening thoughts running through their heads...a split second to say goodbye to the world and prepare themselves. :( R.I.P. Hope they internally made peace with the world.
He flew like Gomer Pyle too. Morons like these are why I avoid air travel. So sad these people entrusted their lives with two 30 something bumbling hicks, like these two "pilots".
@glennbeckfan10 Hey you fuck. People died on this flight. You want to put all the blame on the pilots? Accidents don't happen for one reason in particular. There are many factors involved that all coalesce. There was an icing issue on the plane that aided in the crash. I would love to see you try and fly a plane when it's almost completely aerodynamically impossible to fly. Have some fucking respect for christ sakes.
Did I solicit your opinion ? you foul-mouthed prole. What does 'accidents don't happen for one reason in particular' mean? There was an icing issue that these morons failed to address or recognize. They made multiple mistakes, and an intelligent person can tell from the multiple errors they made and from how dumb they sound on this tape that these pilots were incompetent morons.
People need to do some research BEFORE they post. The pilots used reverse thrusters to get away form the gate. That in turn SUCKED snow and ice into the engine and guess what happened next??
For those who say the crew was blameless, they were far from it.
1)They used reverse thrust to get out of the gate because the town vehicle couldn't get traction
2)After waiting for almost an hour in line they choose NOT to return for de-icing.
3)They didn't activate the engine anti-ice system.
4)While waiting to take off they lined up behind another plane so the exhaust would de-ice them, this was against flight manual recommendations and actually caused the place to ice up more.
the failure to operate the plane's engine anti-icing system caused exactly what could be expected to happen: the engine pressure ratio (EPR) thrust indicators provided false high readings. While the pilots thought they had throttled up to the correct takeoff EPR of 2.04, the actual EPR was only 1.70.
Those pilots killed all those people because they didn't follow procedures
@chicago6584 Actually, it was at least partially pilot error. The pilots opted to do a power back during a snow strorm which caused snow to get sucked in the engines that froze up vital parts in the engine which in turn reduced thrust capacity upon takeoff.
Could they even imagine that their voices as they die are now heard by people all over the world through there stereo systems hooked to their computers?
Thanks for posting this video on the Air Florida Tragedy. I remember watching this live on TV with my family, staring at the TV in disbelief as people were trying to be pulled out of the icy water. It was harrowing! I just completed a documentary about another tragic air crash - the 1978 crash of PSA Flight 182 in San Diego. I discovered that the people of San Diego are still healing from that terrible day.
@Battle4MiddleEarth at the time of this crash it was tradition to pop the corn for the in-flight film in the cockpit, incidentally the scheduled film for that flight was airplane!... have you ever been in a cockpit before?
The sound your hearing is the stick shaker. A stick shaker is a mechanical device to rapidly and noisily vibrate the control yoke (the "stick") of an aircraft to warn the pilot of an imminent stall.
wow...amazing how loud those stickshakers are oO flew a 777 in a simulator (the big one, on wich the pilots are trained) and they are easly overheard because of the computer shouting "stall, stall, stall". I think that must have been the 737 itself, shaking like hell...
I watch these videos to make sure i keep my head in gear. This is my worst nightmare, not the sounds or the crashes, but fellow pilots losing their life doing the job we love, but more importantly, It is a job with risk, the passengers that die never reach their destination, at least they will be at peace and remembered, as will the poor pilots. god speed.
not sure what all these idiots are talking about BUT the pilot used reverse thrusters in ice and snow. The gauges messed up and the co-pilot can be heard telling him "that's not right" in reference to the readings he was seeing at the time. The sound at the end is the plane crashing into the bridge/river. You bafoons should do a little research before you get on here and make yourselves look like fools.
The last words recorded were the captain saying "I know it" reffering to the statement of the copilot before who said "Larry we´re going down Larry". (Larry is the forename of the pilot)
I remember watching the rescue efforts unfold on live TV. I recall one man on the river bank jumping in to save that flight attendant. She was fighting the whole time. Blinded by the fuel and frozen her instinct was just to swim. I remember her paddling her arms instinctively. They tried to get her to hold on to the life ring hanging out of the helicopter but she was just too cold. Then that man jumped in and helped her. That guy was a hero! She lived. Talk about the will to live.
JM: Definitely the stick shaker. The stick shaker was going almost the entire "flight". This is one of the crashes that brought about the use of CRM, cockpit resources management where co-pilots learn not to be unassertive to DEATH. They learn to assert themselves and if necesary to STOP the unsafe action. The pilot flying apparently had target fixation and didn't hear the other pilot say that things didn't look right. Very sad.
JM: In this case....this was a case where these pilots took their aircraft for granted....and us mechanics are the ones who give them that feeling. For the most part, millions of flight operations take place every year and that is because we give them relatively VERY reliable machines. The thought that it ain't gonna make it, just doesn't occure to them because it's rare. They are only human, they have to undergo extensive training in the simulator.
I don´t know what this popping sound is. The quality of the tape were described to be "good" in the final accident report. It sounds to me like damages on the tape foil.
@Slaterator The popping sound that you hear at the end of the tape is that of the aircraft. You can look up the entire report and get all of the factual information, bit by bit. As you can imagine, several pages long. This is haunting because my whole fifth grade class was brought into a separate room to watch the LIVE footage of the survivors' rescue at the 14th street bridge (Potomac River) in Washington, DC. I was only an 11-yr-old and, now, age 40, but it is eerily fresh in my mind.
I heave the accident report here and therefore the cvr-transcript too. But there is no refer in it to the "popping sound". The only thing is the sound of the stickshaker which starts at 16:00:39 and continues to the end of the recording. But the stickshaker does not sound like what can be heard. So the question is which system or what else creates that weird sound. Yes, it was a sad and moving tragedy. I was about 3 years old at the time of the accident. So I learned about it later.
@Slaterator I don't know re: the popping sound other than what can be heard in the overall aircraft. The exact source is certainly not the video, but something else. This, I am sure of, because I've listened to the Black Box recording on other Palm90 videos. These other videos have focused more on the weather. The planes preceding Palm90 were able to maintain even in heavy snow conditions, placing combined but more emphasis on pilot error. I detected a basic NTSB report error never corrected.
I guess that the mysterious "popping sound" is most probably a damage to the tape foil. I don´t know any aircraft system, which creates such a sound even if it is malfunctioning. I agree It is not an effect on the video because I also know several other audio/video sources which heave the same sound too. In my opinion it was more then one pilot error which at least led to the haunting catastrophy. Maybe other factors were contributing. What basic error in the report do you mean ?
That noise is the stick shaker. In aircrafts, when there's a mechanical error, the control yoke of the aircraft vibrates noisily to signify a mechanical malfunction.
Sorry but I don´t think so. I know how and when a stickshaker works and I heard the sound it creates during a test on the ground. It is more a constant mechanical sound which is much faster. I would be very surprised to be wrong. The sound in the vid is -in my personal opinion- not the stickshaker. By the way, this system does not warn about a mechanical malfunction. It warns about an imminent stall or deepstall condition of the aircraft.
Lenny Skutnik is a real hero for jumping in that icy water while the rescue people stood and watched those people freezing to death. I will never forget the first time I saw the footage of that.
@leafyP the real hero was the man in the water (arnold something) who kept passing the life rafts from the helicopters off to other survivors. his selflessness saved three or four people, while lenny skutnik saved one person. i agree that he is a hero though. Arnold was just a bigger one. he died saving those people btw
This is the original record from the CVR. The sound heard is not an explosion. It is the plane hitting a bridge before breaking apart and going into the river. The recorders stopped after the broke up.
All I can say is that I heard the tape years before YT started from serious sources. And the sound is the same. So I´am pretty sure that it was not added to this vid. Right now I haven´t checked his vid´s so maybe he took the sound out of this vid to put it into other one´s. I don´t know.
@Slaterator Whats that popping sound at the end of the recordings, and I agree with you, that is the sound of the planes wings I think that hit the bridge and believe it or not decapitated some drivers.
Yes, four people died in their cars when they were hit by the plane. There were a traffic jam due to the bad weather (heavy snowing) so they were simply stuck in the wrong place at the wrong time. Realy sad. I don´t know what this popping sound is. The quality of the tape were described to be "good" in the final accident report. It sounds to me like damages on the tape foil.
must also mention the Civilians Roger Olian and Lenny Skutnik, as well the Cost Guard pilots for risking their lives to save the survivors. God bless and your families too
@KKALFAKIS Actually it was the US Park Police helicopter that came to the rescue. Used to work on their electronics gear. Check here for other vid showing these brave lads. watch?v=ASBb-oMT5EU
Also what alot of people don't realize is the plane was deiced (unproperly), but so were the other planes that took off as well. Not to mention after the deicing they sat in line for almost an hour on to get on the runway behind 16 other planes. I think had they not sat for so long they may have made it.
Sadly, this crash helped to change policies and other preventive steps have been employed. Such as, deicing on the runway shortly before take off instead of at the gate.
When in dought gas it! screw the trust readings and fly the airplane,full throttle might have prevented this accident" Push it up, way up" is what you will hear in the dallas microburst accident. these guys should have done the same.
@RobertTheVlogger You're not familiar with this accident .Faulty trust readings due to iceing of a sensor told the pilots to set the takeoff power to less than what was needed.Thats why you hear the f.o saying" push it up ,way up" because at that point they knew the power settings were too low. If you want to comment on aviation accidents get your shit straight.
You don't use reverse engines before take off in winter conditions to back away from the gate...when you do, it pushes hot jet air towards the front of the plane andcan shoot a cloud of slush onto the wings and into the engine inlets and freeze those over...thus false readings during take off.
@Kiraly30 holy shit...that was actually a well informed comment and 100% correct.Thats exceedingly rare on YT...kudos.Engine thrust is measured by the diffential between the front and rear pressure sensors within the engine.A clogged front sensor would give you a faulty thrust reading (higher than actual)
@FoulOwl It was the combination of the pilot having the engine defrost switch to the off position, when it should have been on and snow on the wings that caused the accident.
The thrust sensors were blocked with ice, but the cockpit airspeed instrument was reading 220 which is the right speed for take off, but the plane was travelling at only 170. This combined with the ice on the wings caused the planes nose to rise and the plane didn't have enough power to lift so it came down.
@nuttymanyelismate thanks for the reply.Yeah,I didnt know the exact cause of the crash,but I knew we had discussed a similar problem in A&P concerning faulty trust readings due to iced pressure sensors.I wasnt aware they were getting faulty airspeed readings as well.Damn that pilot must have really fucked this bird up on the ramp.Tx.
@FoulOwl You're welcome FoulOwl. Another cause which added to the crash was, the de-icer hose head had the wrong nozzle fitted. It was set to 2 parts. Instead of 4parts, I don't exactly what parts refer to, but as you can easily work out it was only delivering half the de-icer needed to keep the wings cleared.
This weekend I went home for my 20 yr class reunion and thought about this. I grew up with the two sons of the co-pilot on this recording shouting to Larry. He is buried in our home town. (RIP Roger.....) He did warn the pilot to deice many times before take-off. Sadly, Roger wasn't even schedueled to fly that morning.
Ironically, the two sons are now and have been pilots for major airlines and I would fly with them any day..... I still remember as if it was yesterday.
@hollywoodmd72: I watched the live footage of the survivors' rescue that day along with my fifth grade class. I remember how eery it was. I remember the person of question passing off the rope from the rescue mission to the others. He died shortly thereafter. I remember the woman in the river, fighting to save her life and swimming frantically. I was only 11 and stunned at this horrific scenery. I am 40, now. God Bless their father, Roger. He definitely knew what he was doing. RIP AirFlorida90.
Its a damm pity there is not a way to measure air speed by taking measurements in front and in back of the engines, just to gain some redundency and have the computers use DME also. These kinds of accidents really should never happen. Ridic
esta grabacion es pura mentira, el vuelo de air florida hubieron muchos sobrevivientes, el avion cayo a un canal, en este audio se oye una explosion, air florida no estallo, numero dos: no se oye en el cockpit ninguna alarma de warning, ni danger, alarmas de sonido como de proximacion a tierra, pull-up, ni nada por el estilo, asi que este audio es para que lo crea un idiota.
@porn1978 you are the rat, i speak english and spanish, los 2 idiomas, alla tu que solo speak english y no tienes la capacidad de other idioma stupid, yo me doy el lujo como muchos otros de hablar el idioma que nos de la gana, puta eres tu, tu madre y toda tu generacion.
@porn1978, since your profile reveals that you are an American, please shut the hell up and stop giving our country a bad reputation by insulting others. Unless you like being a rude blind, ignorant, selfish, heartless, and hateful immature bitch. thanks!
Bullshit this happened in the 80s it isn't like a video game . This is the actual recording. They've had it on many tv specials about this . It crashed because heat coming off the plane in front of theirs engine melted the ice and it refrozen on the back of the wings and caused the plane to pitch.
The story is quite real and there were a couple of different documentaries made about it..
I could be wrong on this one but I believe this is actually parts of one of the documentaries strung together to sound like the cockpit voice recorder simply because I remember watching one of the documentaries not to long ago and I remember it sounding a lot like this post
That is not funny. Seventy eight people died in this crash and you think its funny? This is a very sad thing. What if it was your family that died that day, would you want other people to laugh at your loss? I dont think so. Think about that next time you go on making bonehaed posts about serious things you asshole.
@warhawk4545 Just let the idiots post away; unfortunately there's no law preventing people with low IQs from touching computers. Pity the life that lies ahead of them.
I remember this crash like it was yesterday. It's weird this crash has been seen on the news recently. Just this morning,,last night I left the TV on,,I was awoken to the sound of the stick shaker.. Before I could open my eyes I heard the second officer say the readings didn't seem right and the Captain say otherwise and trump the concerned co-pilot. It was clear it was pilots failure and disregard.. Too complacent in the cockpit. Not enough experience..
My former kindergarten teacher was killed in that crash. My family had just moved from Maryland to NC, and news of the crash added to the disorientation.
I am deeply sorry about your kindergarten teacher. I loved my kindergarten teacher very much. A lot of irreplaceable people died on AF 90 that day. Hope you adjusted to NC and have a happy life now. That's undoubtedly what your kindergarten teacher would want.
@lawgirlable So sorry to hear that. I just watched the story about that tragic day on the weather channel. So sad to think it could have been avoided. I would feel angry I guess...at least at first.
@lawgirlable I am so sorry about your father. I was 11 yrs old, living in the DC area, when my entire fifth grade class viewed the live footage of the survivors' rescue. I will never forget it. May your father rest in peace, Lawgirlable.
What amazes me is that there voices didn't have a tone of fear. At the very end, when he says "I know!" is one of frustration...Wow... superb pilots.
ingaenterprise13 10 hours ago
"We're going down, Larry."
"I know!"
That's so sad, there was a just split second between that exchange of dialogue and the explosion noise...and in that split second they both must of had frightening thoughts running through their heads...a split second to say goodbye to the world and prepare themselves. :( R.I.P. Hope they internally made peace with the world.
rockymountainrandom 2 weeks ago
If only they had firewalled the engines.
Springbok295 2 months ago
Lol
choriso00 2 months ago
@choriso00
lol?
dude...
GinoRc 2 months ago
@choriso00 How is this funny?
rockymountainrandom 2 weeks ago
the co pilot sounds like Gomer Pyle
ststephens97 3 months ago
@ststephens97
He flew like Gomer Pyle too. Morons like these are why I avoid air travel. So sad these people entrusted their lives with two 30 something bumbling hicks, like these two "pilots".
glennbeckfan10 3 months ago
@glennbeckfan10 Hey you fuck. People died on this flight. You want to put all the blame on the pilots? Accidents don't happen for one reason in particular. There are many factors involved that all coalesce. There was an icing issue on the plane that aided in the crash. I would love to see you try and fly a plane when it's almost completely aerodynamically impossible to fly. Have some fucking respect for christ sakes.
dratelectasis 3 months ago
@dratelectasis
Did I solicit your opinion ? you foul-mouthed prole. What does 'accidents don't happen for one reason in particular' mean? There was an icing issue that these morons failed to address or recognize. They made multiple mistakes, and an intelligent person can tell from the multiple errors they made and from how dumb they sound on this tape that these pilots were incompetent morons.
glennbeckfan10 3 months ago
People need to do some research BEFORE they post. The pilots used reverse thrusters to get away form the gate. That in turn SUCKED snow and ice into the engine and guess what happened next??
dustyflair 3 months ago
the impact in the end is just so horrific.
thefreakshowish1 4 months ago
For those who say the crew was blameless, they were far from it.
1)They used reverse thrust to get out of the gate because the town vehicle couldn't get traction
2)After waiting for almost an hour in line they choose NOT to return for de-icing.
3)They didn't activate the engine anti-ice system.
4)While waiting to take off they lined up behind another plane so the exhaust would de-ice them, this was against flight manual recommendations and actually caused the place to ice up more.
guitarslinger48 4 months ago
the failure to operate the plane's engine anti-icing system caused exactly what could be expected to happen: the engine pressure ratio (EPR) thrust indicators provided false high readings. While the pilots thought they had throttled up to the correct takeoff EPR of 2.04, the actual EPR was only 1.70.
Those pilots killed all those people because they didn't follow procedures
guitarslinger48 4 months ago
Fucking idiot pilots.
SuttonSantiniPaulo 5 months ago
@SuttonSantiniPaulo the plane wasn't properly de-iced prior to takeoff. It wasn't their fault.
chicago6584 5 months ago
@chicago6584 Actually, it was at least partially pilot error. The pilots opted to do a power back during a snow strorm which caused snow to get sucked in the engines that froze up vital parts in the engine which in turn reduced thrust capacity upon takeoff.
diapermanful 4 months ago
@chicago6584
Its the responsibility of the pilot in command to make sure the aircraft is prepared and safe to fly. Ultimately it was the pilots fault.
emtpilot132 3 months ago
Ouch. This one hurts. The BOOOOOOMMM at the end...
benjsmit 5 months ago
both of their last words RIP
TyrannosaurusThunder 6 months ago
Would have been much better with subtitles
nimmyzed 6 months ago
"We´re going down, Larry!"
" I KNOW IT!"
Boom
Ikarus43 6 months ago
rip baby
TestMiNuh 6 months ago
there was a newborn baby on the plane:( may they all RIP
UnaSana 6 months ago
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What black humor.
kalaslsl 7 months ago
Could they even imagine that their voices as they die are now heard by people all over the world through there stereo systems hooked to their computers?
MazenAlsharief 7 months ago
Sounds like an explosion to me
Patiencechurch 8 months ago
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Thanks for posting this video on the Air Florida Tragedy. I remember watching this live on TV with my family, staring at the TV in disbelief as people were trying to be pulled out of the icy water. It was harrowing! I just completed a documentary about another tragic air crash - the 1978 crash of PSA Flight 182 in San Diego. I discovered that the people of San Diego are still healing from that terrible day.
specwrite 8 months ago
I think the explsion voice is like a bomb
TheMuhammed05 9 months ago
popcorn = stickshacker. wikipedia.
ghaddy07 9 months ago
why are they making popcorn at a time like this?
Battle4MiddleEarth 10 months ago 21
@Battle4MiddleEarth LOL...you sick fuck...LOL
SuperThunderlips 10 months ago 5
@Battle4MiddleEarth
i just couldnt stop laughing at this comment XD
you are a bastard
gazprom00 9 months ago
@Battle4MiddleEarth as evil as ur comment is lol
80z90zhouzemuzicgrl 8 months ago
@Battle4MiddleEarth that's the stick shaker.
sonicfan1996 7 months ago
@Battle4MiddleEarth at the time of this crash it was tradition to pop the corn for the in-flight film in the cockpit, incidentally the scheduled film for that flight was airplane!... have you ever been in a cockpit before?
quaxk 6 months ago 2
@Battle4MiddleEarth Oh, god... I totally shouldn't have laughed at this, but I did. Great comment.
SergeantLuke 6 months ago
@Battle4MiddleEarth its the sound of the stick-shaker (an instrument that warns that the plane is in danger of stalling) in the background
turnitupanotchh 6 months ago
@Battle4MiddleEarth
The sound your hearing is the stick shaker. A stick shaker is a mechanical device to rapidly and noisily vibrate the control yoke (the "stick") of an aircraft to warn the pilot of an imminent stall.
iluvairplanes1 4 months ago
@Battle4MiddleEarth Not cool.
atikker 1 month ago
why are they making popcorn?
Battle4MiddleEarth 10 months ago 6
wow...amazing how loud those stickshakers are oO flew a 777 in a simulator (the big one, on wich the pilots are trained) and they are easly overheard because of the computer shouting "stall, stall, stall". I think that must have been the 737 itself, shaking like hell...
NFreund 10 months ago
omg.....
TheDefjams 10 months ago
Is there any similar event like Flight 90?
johnnysally1 10 months ago
@rivetgun2000
It does ? This confused popping sound ? OK. Just give me a link. I´ll check it out....
Slaterator 10 months ago
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@Slaterator: Apologies. Meant to direct this reply to @AirCanada55555A (replied 3 wks ago).
aichausa 11 months ago
@Slaterator: Apologies. Meant to direct this reply to AirCanada55555A (replied 3 wks ago).
aichausa 11 months ago
I watch these videos to make sure i keep my head in gear. This is my worst nightmare, not the sounds or the crashes, but fellow pilots losing their life doing the job we love, but more importantly, It is a job with risk, the passengers that die never reach their destination, at least they will be at peace and remembered, as will the poor pilots. god speed.
Jetairwayscaptain 11 months ago
not sure what all these idiots are talking about BUT the pilot used reverse thrusters in ice and snow. The gauges messed up and the co-pilot can be heard telling him "that's not right" in reference to the readings he was seeing at the time. The sound at the end is the plane crashing into the bridge/river. You bafoons should do a little research before you get on here and make yourselves look like fools.
dustyflair 1 year ago
Sorry, what was it at the end? English is not my native... 'hang on'?
moroz23 1 year ago
@moroz23
The last words recorded were the captain saying "I know it" reffering to the statement of the copilot before who said "Larry we´re going down Larry". (Larry is the forename of the pilot)
Slaterator 11 months ago
I remember watching the rescue efforts unfold on live TV. I recall one man on the river bank jumping in to save that flight attendant. She was fighting the whole time. Blinded by the fuel and frozen her instinct was just to swim. I remember her paddling her arms instinctively. They tried to get her to hold on to the life ring hanging out of the helicopter but she was just too cold. Then that man jumped in and helped her. That guy was a hero! She lived. Talk about the will to live.
USDJ2722 1 year ago
What's the distortion in the last 20 seconds or so that sounds like popcorn?
HarvestmanMan 1 year ago
@HarvestmanMan probably the stick shaker
cameraboy546 1 year ago
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@cameraboy546: probably the stick shaker.
JM: Definitely the stick shaker. The stick shaker was going almost the entire "flight". This is one of the crashes that brought about the use of CRM, cockpit resources management where co-pilots learn not to be unassertive to DEATH. They learn to assert themselves and if necesary to STOP the unsafe action. The pilot flying apparently had target fixation and didn't hear the other pilot say that things didn't look right. Very sad.
JetMechMA 11 months ago
@cameraboy546: probably the stick shaker.
JM: In this case....this was a case where these pilots took their aircraft for granted....and us mechanics are the ones who give them that feeling. For the most part, millions of flight operations take place every year and that is because we give them relatively VERY reliable machines. The thought that it ain't gonna make it, just doesn't occure to them because it's rare. They are only human, they have to undergo extensive training in the simulator.
JetMechMA 11 months ago
@HarvestmanMan
I don´t know what this popping sound is. The quality of the tape were described to be "good" in the final accident report. It sounds to me like damages on the tape foil.
Slaterator 11 months ago
@Slaterator The popping sound that you hear at the end of the tape is that of the aircraft. You can look up the entire report and get all of the factual information, bit by bit. As you can imagine, several pages long. This is haunting because my whole fifth grade class was brought into a separate room to watch the LIVE footage of the survivors' rescue at the 14th street bridge (Potomac River) in Washington, DC. I was only an 11-yr-old and, now, age 40, but it is eerily fresh in my mind.
aichausa 11 months ago
@aichausa
I heave the accident report here and therefore the cvr-transcript too. But there is no refer in it to the "popping sound". The only thing is the sound of the stickshaker which starts at 16:00:39 and continues to the end of the recording. But the stickshaker does not sound like what can be heard. So the question is which system or what else creates that weird sound. Yes, it was a sad and moving tragedy. I was about 3 years old at the time of the accident. So I learned about it later.
Slaterator 11 months ago
@Slaterator I don't know re: the popping sound other than what can be heard in the overall aircraft. The exact source is certainly not the video, but something else. This, I am sure of, because I've listened to the Black Box recording on other Palm90 videos. These other videos have focused more on the weather. The planes preceding Palm90 were able to maintain even in heavy snow conditions, placing combined but more emphasis on pilot error. I detected a basic NTSB report error never corrected.
aichausa 11 months ago
@aichausa
I guess that the mysterious "popping sound" is most probably a damage to the tape foil. I don´t know any aircraft system, which creates such a sound even if it is malfunctioning. I agree It is not an effect on the video because I also know several other audio/video sources which heave the same sound too. In my opinion it was more then one pilot error which at least led to the haunting catastrophy. Maybe other factors were contributing. What basic error in the report do you mean ?
Slaterator 11 months ago
@Slaterator
That noise is the stick shaker. In aircrafts, when there's a mechanical error, the control yoke of the aircraft vibrates noisily to signify a mechanical malfunction.
RipYourSpineOut 10 months ago
@RipYourSpineOut
Sorry but I don´t think so. I know how and when a stickshaker works and I heard the sound it creates during a test on the ground. It is more a constant mechanical sound which is much faster. I would be very surprised to be wrong. The sound in the vid is -in my personal opinion- not the stickshaker. By the way, this system does not warn about a mechanical malfunction. It warns about an imminent stall or deepstall condition of the aircraft.
Slaterator 10 months ago
Sound effects at the end I suspect.
BIGPIMPINUPDANYC 1 year ago
haunting
Fanik8 1 year ago 12
0:28: "That's not right" (speaking of reduced power output from the engines)
rolfen 1 year ago 2
No sterile cockpit...
rolfen 1 year ago
@rolfen Seeing as they were talking about flying the aircraft, it was sterile.
blueb0g 1 year ago
Were going down! I KNOW!!!
emerson24 1 year ago
Lenny Skutnik is a real hero for jumping in that icy water while the rescue people stood and watched those people freezing to death. I will never forget the first time I saw the footage of that.
leafyP 1 year ago 2
@leafyP the real hero was the man in the water (arnold something) who kept passing the life rafts from the helicopters off to other survivors. his selflessness saved three or four people, while lenny skutnik saved one person. i agree that he is a hero though. Arnold was just a bigger one. he died saving those people btw
Terra7595 1 year ago 2
@Terra7595 Arland Williams Jr.
Fanik8 1 year ago
WTF!
Stop putting explosion sounds in the ends of these videos! Its not funny!
Computergeew 1 year ago
@Computergeew
This is the original record from the CVR. The sound heard is not an explosion. It is the plane hitting a bridge before breaking apart and going into the river. The recorders stopped after the broke up.
Slaterator 1 year ago 19
@Slaterator I hear the same sound on most of his videos, of something exploding.
Idk i guess
Computergeew 1 year ago
@Computergeew
All I can say is that I heard the tape years before YT started from serious sources. And the sound is the same. So I´am pretty sure that it was not added to this vid. Right now I haven´t checked his vid´s so maybe he took the sound out of this vid to put it into other one´s. I don´t know.
Slaterator 1 year ago
@Slaterator Whats that popping sound at the end of the recordings, and I agree with you, that is the sound of the planes wings I think that hit the bridge and believe it or not decapitated some drivers.
AirCanadaA55555A 1 year ago
@AirCanadaA55555A
Yes, four people died in their cars when they were hit by the plane. There were a traffic jam due to the bad weather (heavy snowing) so they were simply stuck in the wrong place at the wrong time. Realy sad. I don´t know what this popping sound is. The quality of the tape were described to be "good" in the final accident report. It sounds to me like damages on the tape foil.
Slaterator 11 months ago
@Slaterator Oh. Heard the JAL 123 CVR?
AirCanadaA55555A 11 months ago
must also mention the Civilians Roger Olian and Lenny Skutnik, as well the Cost Guard pilots for risking their lives to save the survivors. God bless and your families too
KKALFAKIS 1 year ago
@KKALFAKIS Actually it was the US Park Police helicopter that came to the rescue. Used to work on their electronics gear. Check here for other vid showing these brave lads. watch?v=ASBb-oMT5EU
Booger6995 1 year ago 2
God bless the hero "Arland D. Williams Jr. "
KKALFAKIS 1 year ago
Also what alot of people don't realize is the plane was deiced (unproperly), but so were the other planes that took off as well. Not to mention after the deicing they sat in line for almost an hour on to get on the runway behind 16 other planes. I think had they not sat for so long they may have made it.
Sadly, this crash helped to change policies and other preventive steps have been employed. Such as, deicing on the runway shortly before take off instead of at the gate.
Tiger99g 1 year ago
HAHAHAHA
dhide14 1 year ago
@dhide14 fuck off!!!
iimranalii 1 year ago
@dhide14 for real how is that funny?
jkd3dawg 1 year ago
this video is the unique....that show...and made us listen the real soundo of IMPACT AIRPLANE IN WATER(iceriver)
marizethzkr 1 year ago
When in dought gas it! screw the trust readings and fly the airplane,full throttle might have prevented this accident" Push it up, way up" is what you will hear in the dallas microburst accident. these guys should have done the same.
ThePolyweave 1 year ago
@ThePolyweave Would you rather die faster, or stall out and cause pure full ledged PANIC?
RobertTheVlogger 1 year ago
@RobertTheVlogger You're not familiar with this accident .Faulty trust readings due to iceing of a sensor told the pilots to set the takeoff power to less than what was needed.Thats why you hear the f.o saying" push it up ,way up" because at that point they knew the power settings were too low. If you want to comment on aviation accidents get your shit straight.
ThePolyweave 1 year ago
@ThePolyweave Your a douche, look up the accident lmfao.
RobertTheVlogger 1 year ago
Respond to this video...5 people survived.
nuttymanyelismate 1 year ago
Air Florida crashes in the snow and ice ...
oracle2world 1 year ago
I couldnt make out a single word
kat1639 1 year ago
it wouldn't of crashed had Chuck Norris been flying it.
Runkleforskin 1 year ago
thats freaky hearing it crash
dylanob8 1 year ago
what happened pls ?
superfly181 1 year ago
@superfly181
You don't use reverse engines before take off in winter conditions to back away from the gate...when you do, it pushes hot jet air towards the front of the plane andcan shoot a cloud of slush onto the wings and into the engine inlets and freeze those over...thus false readings during take off.
Kiraly30 1 year ago
@Kiraly30 holy shit...that was actually a well informed comment and 100% correct.Thats exceedingly rare on YT...kudos.Engine thrust is measured by the diffential between the front and rear pressure sensors within the engine.A clogged front sensor would give you a faulty thrust reading (higher than actual)
FoulOwl 1 year ago
@FoulOwl Thanks! I appreciate the comments!
Kiraly30 1 year ago
@FoulOwl It was the combination of the pilot having the engine defrost switch to the off position, when it should have been on and snow on the wings that caused the accident.
The thrust sensors were blocked with ice, but the cockpit airspeed instrument was reading 220 which is the right speed for take off, but the plane was travelling at only 170. This combined with the ice on the wings caused the planes nose to rise and the plane didn't have enough power to lift so it came down.
nuttymanyelismate 1 year ago
@nuttymanyelismate thanks for the reply.Yeah,I didnt know the exact cause of the crash,but I knew we had discussed a similar problem in A&P concerning faulty trust readings due to iced pressure sensors.I wasnt aware they were getting faulty airspeed readings as well.Damn that pilot must have really fucked this bird up on the ramp.Tx.
FoulOwl 1 year ago
@FoulOwl You're welcome FoulOwl. Another cause which added to the crash was, the de-icer hose head had the wrong nozzle fitted. It was set to 2 parts. Instead of 4parts, I don't exactly what parts refer to, but as you can easily work out it was only delivering half the de-icer needed to keep the wings cleared.
nuttymanyelismate 1 year ago
@nuttymanyelismate By the way, the only reason i know all this is i watched it on Nat-geo this morning. a programme called seconds from disaster.
nuttymanyelismate 1 year ago
this is heart breaking.....rip
Nadzaljaber 1 year ago
This weekend I went home for my 20 yr class reunion and thought about this. I grew up with the two sons of the co-pilot on this recording shouting to Larry. He is buried in our home town. (RIP Roger.....) He did warn the pilot to deice many times before take-off. Sadly, Roger wasn't even schedueled to fly that morning.
Ironically, the two sons are now and have been pilots for major airlines and I would fly with them any day..... I still remember as if it was yesterday.
hollywoodmd72 1 year ago 2
@hollywoodmd72: I watched the live footage of the survivors' rescue that day along with my fifth grade class. I remember how eery it was. I remember the person of question passing off the rope from the rescue mission to the others. He died shortly thereafter. I remember the woman in the river, fighting to save her life and swimming frantically. I was only 11 and stunned at this horrific scenery. I am 40, now. God Bless their father, Roger. He definitely knew what he was doing. RIP AirFlorida90.
aichausa 11 months ago
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hollywoodmd72 1 year ago
to here "we're going down Larry!" and then to here the crash it's shocking and sad
superkryp13 1 year ago
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@krmcgannon
No, a stewardess survived along with 4 passengers. Some heroes made a spectacular high risk rescue operation. Real close for them.
Slaterator 1 year ago
Its a damm pity there is not a way to measure air speed by taking measurements in front and in back of the engines, just to gain some redundency and have the computers use DME also. These kinds of accidents really should never happen. Ridic
atescoop 1 year ago
@krmcgannon no try 5 people
RiVvenGuard 1 year ago
@krmcgannon 5
vr66r 1 year ago
Holy shit.
LeetLunchman 1 year ago
"were going down larry" the guy says in a normal voice "I KNOW!" Larry says in a scared voice
CrisAndAirTwins 1 year ago
did anyone survive?
TheGoldStandard2075 1 year ago
@TheGoldStandard2075 Google it.
Steve181 1 year ago
@TheGoldStandard2075
5 I believe.
Kiraly30 1 year ago
@TheGoldStandard2075 five survived four passengers and one flight attendant.
freqeist 1 year ago
sad to think how bad those pilots fucked up......no ice experience, probly embry riddle grads.....
beergut111 1 year ago
were going down larry!
i know!
BOOOM!
tarded55 1 year ago
this is why we crm :)
suburbanstyles 1 year ago
esta grabacion es pura mentira, el vuelo de air florida hubieron muchos sobrevivientes, el avion cayo a un canal, en este audio se oye una explosion, air florida no estallo, numero dos: no se oye en el cockpit ninguna alarma de warning, ni danger, alarmas de sonido como de proximacion a tierra, pull-up, ni nada por el estilo, asi que este audio es para que lo crea un idiota.
yarvet72 1 year ago
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yarvet72 1 year ago
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yarvet72 1 year ago
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porn1978 1 year ago
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RiideCymbal 1 year ago
Bullshit this happened in the 80s it isn't like a video game . This is the actual recording. They've had it on many tv specials about this . It crashed because heat coming off the plane in front of theirs engine melted the ice and it refrozen on the back of the wings and caused the plane to pitch.
Ballae13 1 year ago
It is fake if it was reel you would hear a alarm tone sayin pull up pull up beep beep beep pull up pull up but there was no tone
TheExtremeGreenBeans 1 year ago
@TheExtremeGreenBeans - I agree, you would have all kinds of stall warnings going off. Why can we hear them?
TowManSKS 1 year ago
The story is quite real and there were a couple of different documentaries made about it..
I could be wrong on this one but I believe this is actually parts of one of the documentaries strung together to sound like the cockpit voice recorder simply because I remember watching one of the documentaries not to long ago and I remember it sounding a lot like this post
orangie84 1 year ago
@TheExtremeGreenBeans Google Air Florida Flight 90 and tell me how fake it is. It's not fake. This really happened on January 13, 1982.
starwarsrebel2006 1 year ago
@starwarsrebel2006 I was on the bridge coming out of DC when the plane went over and in. It wasn't fake.
1rewd1 1 year ago
@1rewd1 I know it's not fake. I was just telling TheExtremeGreenBeans that. I wasn't there but I saw it on the news when it happened.
starwarsrebel2006 1 year ago
@starwarsrebel2006 I was just backing you up, lol.
1rewd1 1 year ago
@1rewd1 Ok. Thanks for the backup, lol.
starwarsrebel2006 1 year ago
@1rewd1 so u saw the whole thing???
superkryp13 1 year ago
@TheExtremeGreenBeans you`re a fucking idiot.
freqeist 3 months ago
Oh man....
nuwaus 1 year ago
как это грустно, печально, это тяжело слушать... но это убеждает меня помнить о том, что мы смертны, порой беззащитны перед роком... несчастные люди
Iscandar1 1 year ago
thats one hell of a crash at the end
timleery 1 year ago
how was this able to come out in public? this is really terrible..
marissalain 1 year ago
OMG it kinda disturbing when you hear the sound of the plane crashing..
FrogTesticle 1 year ago
Sad and RIP to victims, thoughts with thier families
julezindahouse 1 year ago
Why does it sound like a jumpseater is smoking a bong throughout this crash?
PIlotrcm 1 year ago 2
That's the stick shaker warning the pilot of an impending stall.
plapurdue 1 year ago
@PIlotrcm, I think you are probably the one smoking a bong while you're watching this video...
meccaturbo 1 year ago
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hahaah
terryk1233 1 year ago
That is not funny. Seventy eight people died in this crash and you think its funny? This is a very sad thing. What if it was your family that died that day, would you want other people to laugh at your loss? I dont think so. Think about that next time you go on making bonehaed posts about serious things you asshole.
warhawk4545 1 year ago
@warhawk4545 Just let the idiots post away; unfortunately there's no law preventing people with low IQs from touching computers. Pity the life that lies ahead of them.
soursimon 1 year ago 18
@PIlotrcm
Coincidence?
a121509 1 year ago
thats the stick-shaker you dummy @PIlotrcm
toberborgan1 1 year ago
BLUB BLUB...
bryandamadman 1 year ago
I remember this crash like it was yesterday. It's weird this crash has been seen on the news recently. Just this morning,,last night I left the TV on,,I was awoken to the sound of the stick shaker.. Before I could open my eyes I heard the second officer say the readings didn't seem right and the Captain say otherwise and trump the concerned co-pilot. It was clear it was pilots failure and disregard.. Too complacent in the cockpit. Not enough experience..
capesquirt 2 years ago
My former kindergarten teacher was killed in that crash. My family had just moved from Maryland to NC, and news of the crash added to the disorientation.
raunchboy 2 years ago 2
I am deeply sorry about your kindergarten teacher. I loved my kindergarten teacher very much. A lot of irreplaceable people died on AF 90 that day. Hope you adjusted to NC and have a happy life now. That's undoubtedly what your kindergarten teacher would want.
70Kenny 1 year ago 2
How could this idiot be allowed to fly
jjj33343 2 years ago
OMG, the sound of the ending to that recording will haunt me for some time.
mikitavi 2 years ago
they sure are.
deliciousmorton 2 years ago
`we`re going down Larry`
`I know`
horrifying.
freqeist 2 years ago 42
My father was on that flight. I was a 14 year old child and it was a horrible experience. I haven't heard the recorder until now.
lawgirlable 2 years ago
You doing okay after hearing it, lawgirlable?
thegirl44 2 years ago
@lawgirlable So sorry to hear that. I just watched the story about that tragic day on the weather channel. So sad to think it could have been avoided. I would feel angry I guess...at least at first.
janmuldoon 2 years ago
@lawgirlable I am so sorry about your father. I was 11 yrs old, living in the DC area, when my entire fifth grade class viewed the live footage of the survivors' rescue. I will never forget it. May your father rest in peace, Lawgirlable.
aichausa 11 months ago
hey moe, we're going down.
deliciousmorton 2 years ago
@freqeist made me shiver a li
cambria551 1 year ago
At 0:47 you can hear the stick shaker.
EinkOLED 2 years ago
i dont belive she where there.. nop
fredrikJ7508 2 years ago
My mom always used to tell me about this when i was a kid cause she was there...crazy
midgeman18 2 years ago
we're goin down Larry....
Lakerplayer8 2 years ago
hey moe.
deliciousmorton 2 years ago