#54 KOH Antifreeze?

[quicksilverphil]

I had 300 grams to 1 gal water, FROOZE

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Yes but at what temperature?

I didn't say it was freeze proof. I said it lowered the freezing point.

[quicksilverphil]

@ZeroFossilFuel It was at 0 for 24 hrs,

tried Antifreeze 2 cup to 1 gal water, 3 teaspoon KOH, 30 amp for 1/2 hr, lost all amps after that. add more KOH AMP would go up, then back down to 4 amp.

[SHOOTER0072003]

WELL MY KOH FROOZE

[superclodomiro]

thank you

and congratulations for your site and your planet labor conservation MIL GRACIAS Y FELICIDADES POR TU LABOR PARA CONSERVAR NUESTRO PLANETA.

[superclodomiro]

hello,zero

iam in mexico

and i really aprecciate answer my question

i follow every step to construct the hho generator but i can`t control over heat in water an my bubbler send a lot amout of water to may carburator.

i hope you can help me

exuse my english

[ZeroFossilFuel]

The only help I can offer is already published in the FAQ at my web site.

[GManGT]

you need HD camera

[hhopadwan]

I like the idea of using KOH as antifreeze so last night I decided to test 4 tablespoons (in flakes) in a litre is distilled water in the real outside cold. For 12h the temperature went from -17c to -20c back to -15c with a a lot of wind (that was in CAN). The solution was slushy but I was able to put a knife through it easily where most of the centre was still water. I think that is good enough for the generator to start working properly.

[GentleManSteve65]

If you change the properties of water it changes it on both ends. You can not lower the freezing point and raise the boiling point. I hope you saying it raises the boiling point was a misspoken words. It you add something to lower the freezing point so it freezes at lower temperatures it will also lower the boiling point.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Next time you're in an automotive store, pick up a gallon jug of antifreeze and look at what it does to affect the boiling temp.

[GentleManSteve65]

My bad. OK I made a mistake. You are not changing the properties of water but adding something to the water that is totally different than how water reacts to temperature

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Thank you. :-)

[RBCMH2O]

Hello, kindly would you tell me what it does? Would it work with antifreeze? Would it be possible to use the antifreeze reservoir to place the cell?

[datzfast]

thats incorrect

[advancedhydrogen]

i heard that denatured alcohol is supposed to keep the cell and bubbler from freezing has anyone tried this yet? you could use 110v heat tape

[illinois1984]

this video is this shit yo!

[Steve37643]

that vid is off of a cell phone???!!!!

thats a really good cell phone there...

oh btw im in TN where the summers are bout 150degrees an the winters are about 30(at the coldest)

[ZeroFossilFuel]

LG eNV

[onsa12]

I tried to use the reply function....didn't work.

The frozen electrolyte solution was 5% Koh by weight in distilled water.

[onsa1]

Just to let you know. I put some of my Koh electrolite from my cell in the freezer. It froze solid.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Okay, you need to do better than defing your unit of measure as "some". Was it a measured 50 grams per measured liter of distilled? or a "about half a teaspoon" to a gallon?

[jylp4u]

i've come up with an ideal that will let you run your car using water alone.. i just need to know one thing before i get started on it.. "drive by wire" it's on most newer cars, can it be used like as a voltage regulator or modified to be use as?

[seriescell]

Hey Zero you should move up here to where I am and I'll betcha a buck that suff will freeze.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Yeah, I know ALL ABOUT where you live. Nice place to visit, BUT... ;-)

[wemallards]

Get a jar of water with some Baking soda and put it in the freezer and see where it's freezing point is.

[fuckheadcocksucker]

Yo Zero not to sound ignorant but what is ICE? Also in your bubbler are you using a aquarium air stone? Just a thought.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

I.C.E. = Internal Combustion Engine.

Not using a stone for 2 reasons. 1) Don't want the added restriction to flow and 2) It creates more foam that might rise to the top and flow out of the bubbler. Pure water might not have this problem but remember, I'm going to be using shared electrolyte throughout the system in a closed loop. KOH has the tendency to foam up.

[marcusdesielsky]

in a car appication have you thought about a higher output altinator say from standard of 135 amps to a 200 amp instead of putting in a second alt. been watching you a hoax and have learned a couple things by watching you 2 how much pressure can you glass canister hold

[ZeroFossilFuel]

You're probably right about the alternator. But, under vacuum my current requirements to produce a specific volume of gas just dropped drastically. I have no intention of allowing it to build up pressure.

[raymondtr]

Hey Zero,

Thanks for the videos and the info. I have watched your entire series. I'm playing around with a double helix design. How much hho production would you recommend before installing in a vehicle with a V10? Have you noticed a "Sweet Spot" with HHO production and engine performance (i.e. is more always better or is there a point of diminished returns)?

Thanks and have a great Christmas.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

There's no easy answer to the sweet spot question. The reason is as I explained about the inverse manifold vacuum relationship to engine load. For the most efficient use of HHO it needs to me more vacuum with engine load, as can be produced by the vacuum pump with very little power from the engine. At least that's the theory I plan to prove or disprove, THIS WEEKEND!

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Also, a very good personal friend of mine has offered to donate a small ICE to experiment with. The next phase after this one is 100% HHO from 100% H2O, assuming this phase works as expected, of course. I will add a 2nd v-belt pully to the electric motor shaft and use that as an idler to the ICE output shaft.

Is that over unity I smell? :-)

Zero

[magnetizerenergizer]

Sorry havent read any mad scientist books lately did not recognise the name.How would youre Zerro cell work on straight carburator? The reason i am asking,i thhink your system produces enough HHO to run a small H da echo throtle gen & make the loop with built in charging systen.Even if you have to add small charger to make up the diff.The 1KL only uses 2.5 LTR/8HRS @ 75% load, the 2KL uses 4.5 LTR/8HRS @ 75% load. Can solve GAS & ELECTRICITY problem at the same time.Any results on MPG?

[magnetizerenergizer]

Forgot to wish you & youre family Merry Xmas & Happy New Year, Hope youre Tests turn out the way you expect, YOU DESERVE IT.

[magnetizerenergizer]

Hey Dr.Brown,please excuse my computer skills. Been fllowing you when ican from begining of magnets which i have info that may be encouriging at alater date.You mentioned in one of youre videos about modifing the pulse modulator,just wondering before i purchase one.i have access to 18 8 stainless,is that any good? or shuld itry get 316.KEEP UP THE EXELLENT WORK & be carefull of the knock on youre door.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Go for 316. If you buy a PWM now the mod to make it externally controlled will very easy.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

P.S. That was just a quote from my favorite mad scientist, Dr. Emmett Brown. You may call me Zero. :-)

[gambitxx3]

the audio is fine, but the video upgrade will be much appreciated.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Hey everyone, mid 40's predicted on Sunday. Power supply came in. Bench is set up to run the vacuum tests on the cell. HHOMeter was frozen again else I'd have run the test last night. Hoping the DV cam comes today or tomorrow so I can Christen it with what I'm predicting will be a historical milestone.

"If my calculations are correct... you're gonna see some serious shit."

Dr. Emmett Brown.

[jmdonasc]

keep up the good work.

[alltimecop]

zero F F no need to worry synthetic oil being "flamable" the do preform better as in not breaking down and losing vilosaity they well burn at a higher temp then regular oil\ p.s i am now a huge fan of your stayed up till 5:30 am watching your vids p.s.s is also cold here in wisconsin KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK THE WORLD NEEDS PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!!

[december105]

better build a shatter shield between you and that compressor, just in case the oxygen and oil do cause it to shatter. at least get good heavy goggles to protect your eyes . hard to say what will happen !!!!  not trying to be a smart ass just have to agree with some of the others that have pointed out the instability of oil and oxygen.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Taken under advisement. Do you think the synthetic oils are more flame retardant and less likely to combust in the presence of oxygen?

[december105]

My guess is that the flash point of synthetic oil is higher but i am sure it would burn with vigor in the presents of oxygen.

[december105]

Just had another thought, there are small oil less air compressors built and sold, don't know how they work, but maybe one of those could be used............

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Maybe.

[HHOFreedomCell]

Maybe you should add some potassium hydroxide to your bubbler. Keep it from freezing and could be used to top of your cell on the road.;)

[ZeroFossilFuel]

I do. There's no reason the cell and bubbler can't share the same supply of fluid in a closed loop system. Now we have one more reason to do so.

[sn1pe352]

that last statement about 100 percent water powered car would be awesome!

looking forward to your new video quality as well, even though the current quality is fine to me

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Well, even I feel it would be of benefit to my viewers be able to shoot extreme closeups using a macro lens. That's why I'm making this investment, not only to shut the whiners up who have nothing else in life to complain about, but also as a teaching aid.

[harpersteven]

is that snow i see? i want snow!!! there is no snow in Ireland.. apperently its too worm.. i dont think so,, as it was really dam cold today

ps. i thought your video skills were Great! its hard to talk, hold, shoot and do stuff with your hands all at the same time so WELL DONE and Happy Christmas from Ireland

[ZeroFossilFuel]

It *IS* snow and I love the stuff too. I just wish I could look at it outside through the window of a heated lab. :-\

Thanks for the compliments and well wishes. Merry Christmas to you as well.