these are great in theory, but a biach to do! If you wanna make it easy? buy a tornado grenade or get someone who has a madbull grenade shotgun! They clear those camping corner gits!
these are great in theory, but a biach to do! If you wanna make it easy? buy a tornado grenade or get someone who has a madbull grenade shotgun! They clear those camping corner gits! >:D
seriously i mean what ever tactics you use can be right there is no right or wrong its what caters to you and the situation at hand that is the way we are trained you improvise cause no situation will ever be the same
@bolingersa I think this video is mainly covering individual room-clearing and corner-clearing tactics. I mean, you could easily adapt these tactics to group operations, but the stuff detailed in this video are primarily for solo room clearing (which is generally not a good idea anyways.)
@amerigovespucci At 1:00 he suggests on how to enter with 2 people, that entry method isn't exactly what I'd call effective as the people that breach have to do a 180 degree turn to face the threats if there is one, the over-under method is and will be one of the most effective breaching tactics I've came into contact with. 2 people cam breach at the same exact time with weapons pointed at both deep corners, of course that doesn't guarantee they live but it gives them a much higher chance.
I laugh whenever I read folks arguing about whether this tactic is right or wrong. What a waste of time. When it comes down to it, you use the tactic that works the best for YOU in a specific situation. The one that you are most comfortable with, and have a high success rate with. All the other stuff you can keep in your "toolbox" for another day, and pull it out to use it when you need it. The one guy who is "absolutely right" in these threads usually is a wannabe who has no clue... nice vid!
@Chimster72 What works for you might be something that will get you shot. That "whatever works for you" mentality works in many subjects, not in this one. Why not simply follow what people who didn't want to get shot invented? And if you do get shot, at least it will be plastic and you will have more time to learn.
@Chimster72 No I didn't. Tactics were designed so that people don't get shot. If you do things differently, you have a higher chance of getting shot.
And if you haven't practiced something it won't stay on your "toolbox". It's not like riding a bike, and if you try to practice two or three ways to do the same thing, you will be an expert in none.
@bf2lover42 Sorry, yeah you're right. I guess 2 years as a cav scout and 9 years as an infantryman mean I don't know what I'm doing...LOL. Have a nice day.
During those 11 years did you abandon the tactics you learn for things that "worked for you"?
Because looking over your shoulder might be better than nothing, but if your muzzle is pointing the other way there isn't any advantage, right?
So tell people to follow rules (they exist for a reason) instead of telling people to do what they want. Unless you're only airsofting to ruin it for others, but that's cool too.
@bf2lover42 Ok son, there are several similar tactics for entering and clearing a room. Many of them "work," some will cater to a specific situation or to a specific individual better than others. After you have learned about a dozen or so of these, you HAVE to pick what works best for you, personally, and to the tacsit in front of you. Your "One size fits all" doesn't work real world. The only rule I tell people to follow is always plan for Murphy...anyway, let's just agree to disagree, ok kid?
Yea but it is still possible for you and your friend to create cross-fire and cannot shoot the enemy if this happens because one of you is blocking the view. What about mirrors? No one carries them? No grenading tactics? If someone is camping the sides of the wall, they will be ready for you upon entry.
@DrHaggiz8561 yeh i know, i understand that airsoft is just a game so it dont really matter, also i commented on another of these vid stating that even though somethings were wrong they are more airsoft friendly
@toboe399 it might look right doesnt mean it is right. i should also explain, anything short of perfect is wrong.
The door way looked to large to try a modifyed entry and would be unnecessarily risky, normaly when doing them entrys you would be in a smaller door way so you can physicly prevent shooting your mate in the head, this door is simply to large to do this and again is not ideal for the circumstance. Im not sure if you have military training but if you do then you should know this.
@HONORGUARD308 and as the company name and products they sell suggests, it's AIRSOFT not Live fire, for something like this, its right. For kids that don't have any training what so ever seeing as the average airsofter's ages (least where i am) are 13 to about 20 ish
@toboe399 well no your wrong. tactics are used to keep you alive and take out your enemy as efficiently as possible, so live fire or airsoft is iralivent, people use tactics for the EXACT same reason.
Just cause archlight is an airsofter and in airsoft tactics serve less of a perpouse does not mean they are right. (just cause smart car is made for another perpose then the camaro does not make the smart car fast, its a different game but the fact remains that its still slow) (metaphor)
@HONORGUARD308 I won't disagree with that, but every one has different tactics if you aren't professionally trained , eg military, swat, police etc. and RWA is in china, for all you know, their SF and Military tactics differ from your country of origins. My view is this, you are debating about tactics for a hobby that has players with various backgrounds and different ways of using tactics. How many airsofters do you know that have military training attached?
@toboe399 many ex military play airsoft, also i do have military training, and most tactics are somewhat uniformed, i was mostly trained with Australian tactics, much like US/UK/Canadian so forth tactics but i also have had a bit of Chinese, Russian, Ukrainian, Mexican tactics training, though that was from mates i know in other countrys not offical. I fully understand the point your making and im not trying to offend archlight i like the lad i was just stating something as all.
@HONORGUARD308 Then how would they do it the right way? Or should I start changing the plans of my evil lair to include big ass doors so that any dynamic entry has to be called off?
@HONORGUARD308 People saying stupid shit doesn't mean there are no better ways to do something.
You know what's stupid? If my application to the air force turns out to be successful I will have tactical training with fucking paintball. How will that apply in case everyone has to grab a rifle? (unlikely)
@HONORGUARD308 I wish. Those simunitions exist in 9mm and 5.56mm but not in 7.62x51mm.
Which means training is done with hoppers with unrealistic capacity, lightweight markers that are far from being as heavy or long as a full sized G3. All of these issues would be solved with airsoft.
Aeronautical Engineering in the Air Force is far from being a combat role but the pictures taken in those training facilities are just ridiculous.
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these are great in theory, but a biach to do! If you wanna make it easy? buy a tornado grenade or get someone who has a madbull grenade shotgun! They clear those camping corner gits!
onizukademongto 5 months ago
these are great in theory, but a biach to do! If you wanna make it easy? buy a tornado grenade or get someone who has a madbull grenade shotgun! They clear those camping corner gits! >:D
onizukademongto 5 months ago
you'll still need help from others if there are 4 men in the room.
julian23561 5 months ago
seriously i mean what ever tactics you use can be right there is no right or wrong its what caters to you and the situation at hand that is the way we are trained you improvise cause no situation will ever be the same
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UnknownAirsoftMN 6 months ago
now when entering the doorway you want to have your eyes closed
zipzip105 6 months ago
No. He saids part 3 correctly
britishshock 6 months ago
@britishshock Pause the video at the beginning. Now, read the words. Part 2. Or, to be nit-picky, Pt. 2
MoonEyes2k 6 months ago
anyone notice that is says part 2 at the beggining?
chumpstanator 6 months ago
Well done, I certainly hope to see more videos of this caliber in the future.
Cthuluman3 6 months ago
you're wrong about enter in a room like that...
Josyobione 6 months ago
scenario1- you and partner approach threshold, bad guy 1 shoots you and bad guy 2 shoots your friend, bad guys hi five.
scenario2- you and you partner approach threshold and deploy Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris does all work followed up by group hi five with Chuck Norris.
Moral of story, when in doubt use Chuck Norris
the1realdannyb 6 months ago 3
@the1realdannyb does redwolf airsoft sell chuck norris? cause i dont want to be scenario 1.
sashaxkunx 6 months ago
@sashaxkunx I love Chuck Norris! Hilarious!
Chimster72 6 months ago
What happened to the "Over-under" method used by SWAT?
bolingersa 6 months ago
@bolingersa I think this video is mainly covering individual room-clearing and corner-clearing tactics. I mean, you could easily adapt these tactics to group operations, but the stuff detailed in this video are primarily for solo room clearing (which is generally not a good idea anyways.)
amerigovespucci 6 months ago
@amerigovespucci At 1:00 he suggests on how to enter with 2 people, that entry method isn't exactly what I'd call effective as the people that breach have to do a 180 degree turn to face the threats if there is one, the over-under method is and will be one of the most effective breaching tactics I've came into contact with. 2 people cam breach at the same exact time with weapons pointed at both deep corners, of course that doesn't guarantee they live but it gives them a much higher chance.
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96SouthernPride96 6 months ago
very usefull!
DusterPanCake 6 months ago
I laugh whenever I read folks arguing about whether this tactic is right or wrong. What a waste of time. When it comes down to it, you use the tactic that works the best for YOU in a specific situation. The one that you are most comfortable with, and have a high success rate with. All the other stuff you can keep in your "toolbox" for another day, and pull it out to use it when you need it. The one guy who is "absolutely right" in these threads usually is a wannabe who has no clue... nice vid!
Chimster72 6 months ago
@Chimster72 What works for you might be something that will get you shot. That "whatever works for you" mentality works in many subjects, not in this one. Why not simply follow what people who didn't want to get shot invented? And if you do get shot, at least it will be plastic and you will have more time to learn.
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 And... you missed my point. On the upside, by totally missing my first point, you totally proved my second one! Hilarious!
Chimster72 6 months ago
@Chimster72 No I didn't. Tactics were designed so that people don't get shot. If you do things differently, you have a higher chance of getting shot.
And if you haven't practiced something it won't stay on your "toolbox". It's not like riding a bike, and if you try to practice two or three ways to do the same thing, you will be an expert in none.
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 Sorry, yeah you're right. I guess 2 years as a cav scout and 9 years as an infantryman mean I don't know what I'm doing...LOL. Have a nice day.
Chimster72 6 months ago
@Chimster72 You just proven my point.
During those 11 years did you abandon the tactics you learn for things that "worked for you"?
Because looking over your shoulder might be better than nothing, but if your muzzle is pointing the other way there isn't any advantage, right?
So tell people to follow rules (they exist for a reason) instead of telling people to do what they want. Unless you're only airsofting to ruin it for others, but that's cool too.
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 Ok son, there are several similar tactics for entering and clearing a room. Many of them "work," some will cater to a specific situation or to a specific individual better than others. After you have learned about a dozen or so of these, you HAVE to pick what works best for you, personally, and to the tacsit in front of you. Your "One size fits all" doesn't work real world. The only rule I tell people to follow is always plan for Murphy...anyway, let's just agree to disagree, ok kid?
Chimster72 5 months ago
Ideally, you wouldn't ever be going around corners or breaching rooms by yourself.
amerigovespucci 6 months ago 34
@amerigovespucci very true
FoltorInternational 6 months ago
@amerigovespucci but it's more common to have your dad drive you to your local arena and play with an un organized, improvised team.
patpatomegatron 6 months ago
part 3 with a part 2 label in the intro lol
toboe399 6 months ago
don't cry around and say this is bullshit bitches, not everyone can be so great as you are.. gg
0123Rusty 6 months ago
I went to Front Sight firearms training school, and we did a quick segment on this and you did it exactly like they showed us. Great job!
amonkeynamedherald 6 months ago
Yea but it is still possible for you and your friend to create cross-fire and cannot shoot the enemy if this happens because one of you is blocking the view. What about mirrors? No one carries them? No grenading tactics? If someone is camping the sides of the wall, they will be ready for you upon entry.
ZaCkOX900 6 months ago
Ya, I'm not sure how you guys do it in the UK but these tactics suck.
/watch?v=hfBffSr1udk < this is MOUNT training pretty much best way we do.
CodenamREM 6 months ago
@CodenamREM You mean "MOUT" training, right? =) "Military Operations in Urban Terrain?"
Chimster72 6 months ago
. . . . This was 90% wrong but still cool
HONORGUARD308 6 months ago
@HONORGUARD308 It can be wrong to military standards but rmember airsoft is different. :)
DrHaggiz8561 6 months ago
@DrHaggiz8561 yeh i know, i understand that airsoft is just a game so it dont really matter, also i commented on another of these vid stating that even though somethings were wrong they are more airsoft friendly
HONORGUARD308 6 months ago
@HONORGUARD308 My brother told me about this.. He's a British military paratrooper..
PassionOfTheHeist321 6 months ago
@HONORGUARD308 Care to elaborate? Not questioning you, but if anything is wrong I want to know it. Joining the army in not too long, so...
kazetehskylord 6 months ago
@kazetehskylord
1) when he says "slice" he is just pointing not slicing
2) it does not matter what side of the door your on, you wont be using the door knob
3) dont fuck around trying to get to the other side of the door, every second you wast is giving the enemy more time to figger out your there
4) do not cross your team mates line of fire
5) dont move right infront of the door way
6) he had no sector priority
and 7) dont make things more complex then needed
HONORGUARD308 6 months ago
@HONORGUARD308 Looks right to me.....especially the 2 man entry, they aren't getting in a cross fire
toboe399 6 months ago
@toboe399 it might look right doesnt mean it is right. i should also explain, anything short of perfect is wrong.
The door way looked to large to try a modifyed entry and would be unnecessarily risky, normaly when doing them entrys you would be in a smaller door way so you can physicly prevent shooting your mate in the head, this door is simply to large to do this and again is not ideal for the circumstance. Im not sure if you have military training but if you do then you should know this.
HONORGUARD308 6 months ago
@HONORGUARD308 and as the company name and products they sell suggests, it's AIRSOFT not Live fire, for something like this, its right. For kids that don't have any training what so ever seeing as the average airsofter's ages (least where i am) are 13 to about 20 ish
toboe399 6 months ago
@toboe399 well no your wrong. tactics are used to keep you alive and take out your enemy as efficiently as possible, so live fire or airsoft is iralivent, people use tactics for the EXACT same reason.
Just cause archlight is an airsofter and in airsoft tactics serve less of a perpouse does not mean they are right. (just cause smart car is made for another perpose then the camaro does not make the smart car fast, its a different game but the fact remains that its still slow) (metaphor)
HONORGUARD308 6 months ago
@HONORGUARD308 I won't disagree with that, but every one has different tactics if you aren't professionally trained , eg military, swat, police etc. and RWA is in china, for all you know, their SF and Military tactics differ from your country of origins. My view is this, you are debating about tactics for a hobby that has players with various backgrounds and different ways of using tactics. How many airsofters do you know that have military training attached?
toboe399 6 months ago
@toboe399 many ex military play airsoft, also i do have military training, and most tactics are somewhat uniformed, i was mostly trained with Australian tactics, much like US/UK/Canadian so forth tactics but i also have had a bit of Chinese, Russian, Ukrainian, Mexican tactics training, though that was from mates i know in other countrys not offical. I fully understand the point your making and im not trying to offend archlight i like the lad i was just stating something as all.
HONORGUARD308 6 months ago
@HONORGUARD308 Then how would they do it the right way? Or should I start changing the plans of my evil lair to include big ass doors so that any dynamic entry has to be called off?
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 some of the shit people say is stupid. I was pointing that the method used is not a very good one for the situation at hand.
HONORGUARD308 6 months ago
@HONORGUARD308 People saying stupid shit doesn't mean there are no better ways to do something.
You know what's stupid? If my application to the air force turns out to be successful I will have tactical training with fucking paintball. How will that apply in case everyone has to grab a rifle? (unlikely)
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 why the do you use a paintball gun?? are you sure its not a real rifle using simunitions and a modifyed barrel??
HONORGUARD308 6 months ago
@HONORGUARD308 I wish. Those simunitions exist in 9mm and 5.56mm but not in 7.62x51mm.
Which means training is done with hoppers with unrealistic capacity, lightweight markers that are far from being as heavy or long as a full sized G3. All of these issues would be solved with airsoft.
Aeronautical Engineering in the Air Force is far from being a combat role but the pictures taken in those training facilities are just ridiculous.
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 7.62X51mm. . G3.... what country are you from?? Turkey?
HONORGUARD308 6 months ago
@HONORGUARD308 Portugal. We don't train with the G36 because those are issued to marines and the GOE.
bf2lover42 6 months ago
3rd wat up bitches
56kct56 6 months ago
These tactical vids are great!
EgoFilm 6 months ago 96
:P
Jackster802 6 months ago