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  • The Ancient hungarian MTDNA (tests by István Raskó and Erika Bogácsi Szabó, Szeged laboratory MTA)

    1. common people they were the pannonici (pan european markers from non slavo-germano-vlach tombs)

    2. classical homecoming ruler people

    -Middle Eastern (Nimrods area) my Sabiroi

    -Caucasus (Alanians)

    -Asia (joined türks (krluk like ujghur?)or early avars from 6th century Pannonia)

    these asians were 16-25% in classical tombs.

  • @HungarianHistory2 @HungarianHistory2 @HungarianHistory2

    Raszko does not say that! Rasko has found 2 (only two!) Tat C in ancient Magyars and he maintains that the Ancient Magyars were high rate Tat C as the Finns and the Yugrans are! The interpretation of this research is a shame for Science. The Finns and the Yugrans are also high rate N1c, but he has not found it! Guess! The research was sponsored by the MTA!! Read "Genetics and MTA" on book "Genetics" on michelangelo . cn

  • @angelonaddeo

    Rasko Tat = y chromosome

    they made MTDA exams too (68) semples, Middle East :Subartu-Sumeria?, Pontic Stepp, ASia, Europe.

  • @angelonaddeo

    the Tat is not MTDNA but Y-DNA. Rasko had MTDNA tests from 68 semples.

  • @HungarianHistory2 Sorry you right! I commentd Rasko's YDNA research. Here is comment to MtDNA u referrd to: Raszko assumes that Magyars only Asians. Magyars were Tarim B. Hungarians (with Asian admix) with the same DNA of the Pannonici (no Asian adm), Sarmat (G ad), Avars (J a). Commoners were Pan/Sarm/Magy Hungarians! Rasko says Asian adm disappeard: untrue! It diluted to 7% after mixing with locals and is still c. 5%: Rasko did not find this 5% but others did! Pls read Genetics and MTA!

  • @angelonaddeo

    Raskó have 7 y-dna semples only, is nothing. MTDNA are 68.

  • @HungarianHistory2 if you read whichever chinese book of archaeology you find out the Chinese named "Huns" all the peoples at their north and west borders! Some of them were blonds and they were Hungarians.

  • @HungarianHistory2 Today genetics is the most reliable tool for finding ancestors. The Magyars came back home from the Tarim basin: this is what genetics, archaeology, and cultural anthropology clearly say. Genetics, archaeology, cultural anthropology, and history clearly say that the Sarmatians and the Avars came from central Asia south and west of the tarim Basin.

  • etruscan question, Alinei opinion they were kugan uralic, my opinion they were from troy. trojans spoke a similar language as sumerians and subartuans. the 70% same between etr. and hung. is this. trojans in carpathia made eszter gom (ister gam) and sicambria. next they run to Italy s Etruscan. Francio and Paris trojans similar to France and Paris.

  • @HungarianHistory2 there is nowadays genetic evidence that confirms that the Etruscans came fro Anatolia. In Lemnos (the island in front of Troy) Hungarian archaeology has been found and they used an alphabet that is similar to the Etruscan one (Facchinetti).The Etruscan design of the Mother Isten had also come from Anatolia.The Hungarian capital, still used in Varese and Szekelyfold came from Ionia, west Anatolia.My evidence is in my website. What evidence you have that they made Esztergom?

  • about hungarian hunnic contact. we have nothing with xiongnu common people, but the rulers of the huns were r1a1 and u2e (mtdna).

    dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/01/­r1a1u2e-male-in-2000-year-old-­mongolian.html

  • @HungarianHistory DuurligNars man was Hungar "technological slave" (see "The Huns" when published).He descended from Pazyryki (same mutation pattern of R1a) arrived from Szekelyfold (buried with gold Mother Isten of same shape as Cucuteni) U2 was in EU since 30.000 BC (Kostienki)That research contaminated by"another"Mongolist: C.Mair, "Indo-Germanist"!

    Read: michelangelo.cn>magyar genetika>chapt X.>gen.researches 51. and 04.Hungar Sarmatians were"tech slaves" of Huns. Mongols were Mongols!

  • @HungarianHistory He is the Duurlig Nars man, he was not the chief, but he was buried close to the chief, hence he had an influencial position in the community: cultural elite (thechnological slave) . He may have had the same position that later on the "technological slaves" of the Mongols had: Gengiz khan built a brick (no yurts!) closed village for them, as in USSR they would later do for their scientists

  • @HungarianHistory "who are the bulgarians and türks?"

    The Anatolians are 64% Caucasoid. The Turkish speakers admixture in Anatolia is only 13-30%. The Far east Asian admixture in the Turkish speakers' pie was from 24 to 55%. The Hungarians are not Turks.

    See "Genetics" on michelangelo.cn (shall be published next week).

  • @aquario008 "Yeah, keep on deleting comments which don't agree with you.... you're a "true" scientist.... what a joke you are... Szekely disguised as an Italian (I believe you are actually a Jew)."

    I reply and publish only to comments "consistently opposing my theory with evidence". I block the users who comments as racist barbars!

  • aquario008 The other 4 comments were lacking evidence (they are in the waste basket) including theone about the famous Indo-Soviet-Iranian myth that the Scytho-Sarmatians spoke an Indo-Iranian language. Only a handfull of glossae are known in Scythian: no linguistic theory can make miracles! I am looking for the evidence of this myth since 10 years! No result. If you find it I shall pay for it!

  • Amióta közzétettem ezt a videót, mindenféle kommentnek teret engedtem; tűrtem még a barbár vitákat is. Most eltávolítottam az összes régi bejegyzést és csak az elméletemet ellenző véleményekre adott válaszaimat engedem megjelenni, melyeket a Michelangelo.cn oldalon található bizonyítékok támasztanak alá. A magyarul írott kommentekre magyarul válaszolok. Hálás vagyok az elméletemet alátámasztó kommentekért, de ezek közül csak azokat hozom nyilvánosságra, amelyek további bizonyítékot nyújtanak.

  • @aquario008 Instead of reading Wikipedia read "HISTORY OF CIVILIZATIONS OF CENTRAL ASIA", Volume III , Asimov, UNESCO. You shall learn that the Huns enslaved the [Hungarian] Alans in central Asia, the same Alans that together with the Ostrogoths later destroyed the Army of Ellac at Nedau, The remaining Huns were annihillated by the Byzantines and finally burnt close to Debrecen. (“De origine actibusque Getarum”, Jordanes l.261.)

    There are no Huns in Carpathia and no Dacian in Romania!!!

  • @aquario008 There is no Dacian archaeology at all in Transilvania: this appears from the Romanian books. Which non Romanian books should I read? Do you not trust your archaeologists? Are the Romanian books not ..."REAL SCIENCE"? I agree with you!!

  • @aquario008 My “poorly interpreted genetics data” come straight from YHRD database. G, signature of Sarmatians, is attested wherever the Sarmatians settled. The “Britannic cluster” appears in Britannia and in Szekelyfold that has the highest frequency of G in EU, majority of which is in Britannic cluster) This is not “Hungarian irredentist propaganda” 1st: because it is also confirmed by history and archaeology. 2nd, the Hungarians are not even told these things by their intelligentsia!

  • This answers lots of myths that have been circulating both in Romania and Hungary. Finally a theory that makes sense! Thank you!

  • @gogoasacenusie Heinrich Kiepert wrote: "The blood kinship between today Romanian or Wallach and his Dacian ancestors” , but the only evidence he gave was based on proto-craniometry, a science considered nowadays obsolete.

  • Since I published this video, I allowed in this page any kind of comment without ever replying, including barbaric disputes. I removed all old comments. I shall allow from now on only my replies to comments consistently opposing my theory with evidence. My replies are supported by the evidence on Michelangelo.cn. I shall reply in Hungarian to comments in Hungarian. I am very gratefull to all those who post comments supporting my theory, but I shall only publish comments that add evidence.

  • @gogoasacenusie G hg is centralAsian brought to Eu by Hungarian Sarmatians, who come from Arsia, region where the Magjars live, who were not Huns but Hungarians as their archaeology and culture confirm. A mutation of G is shared by the Szekely and the "Dacians" sent to Britannia by M. Aurelius.

    Your "Dacians" were Sarmatians! ("Genetics" on michelangelo.cn) HUNNISH THEORY DOESNT BELONG TO ME BUT TO SOME BLOODY HUN-GARIANS: read before talk! Hungarians populated Carpathia along 8 millennia.

  • @THORA2012

    Sorry, I am trying a reconstruct of facts through history, archaeology, genetics, cultural anthropology... For great floods, Biblic referencies, Magor and Hunor, white stags, mythic Hunnish dynasties, medioeval agiographies, linguistic speculations, craniometry, great empires from the Rhone to the Pacific ocean, Indian Huna, Europoid Mongols ... you should apply to the Hungarian intelligentsia! I havnt found any archaeological, historical, genetic evidence of these issues.

  • @THORA2012

    Pyramids have been found all over the routes travelled by Hungarians in ancient times: yet, those routes were quite crowded. The runic script in Bosnia points to Hungarians. Nobody says yet that the Bolshoi Salbykskii Kurgan escavated by S.V. Kiselyev was a megalithic pyramid of the Tagar culture (Minusinsk) that also Bakai K. defined as "Hungarian"! If Bakai had compared the Tagar culture with the Bronze Age Pannonico culture he would have written the story I am writing now!

  • @AZOLAHNEMEMBER Szekely land was inhabited by Hungarians since as long as at least 8 millennia: the archaeological continuitas in Szekely land proves it: the crosses on top of Szekely houses are not Christian Crosses; they are Hungarian Bronze Age Symbols!

    I hope to shortly publish a work on michelangelo.cn about tha Szekely continuitas - "Erdély Dacia"

  • @THORA2012 being the history of the Hungarian people 10 millennia long, connections with ancient peoples are normal, but genetic, archaeological, cultural and maybe linguistsic continuitas only exist along a route that started in Chatalhuiuk, through Carpathia and Arsia, and back to Carpathia.

  • @gogoasacenusie Calusari dance resembles English Morris dance in choreography, the meaning of ritualistic sword dance, and costumes. Some claim it was borrowed from the Dacians stationed in Britannia (Wikipedia). The Dacians of Britannia were Sarmatians, (see genetics on my website: they had the same G haplogroup with the same mutation that also the Sarmatians of “Dacia” have). The calusher used a Sarmatian (Dacian for you) conical hat. The calusari dance was an equestrian Sarmatian dance.

  • @gogoasacenusie

    Every country has its own fairy tales! Some of them (mostly from the Hungarian "Intelligentsia") have invented the fairy tale of the Huns!

    The Hungarians were Old Europeans (Cucuteni) who migrated to Central Asia (Pazyrykia and Arsia) and came back to Carpathia in three waves: Sarmatians, Avars, Magyars.

    This is what is written in my website!

  • @gogoasacenusie

    I was hoping that you had something better than this!

    The Dacian-Romanian continuity is a Romanian myth!

    If the evidence you sent me is what they teach you in school... I can only say that they teach fairy tales, in Romania: sorry, you are not guilty

    Your way out: proudly accept to be Hungarian and Decebal shall continue to be your hero.

    The only "evidence" that Decebal was Romanian is that he was born in a land that after 2000 yrs has become Romania!!

    This is not enough. 

  • @gogoasacenusie

    Bracina is derived from a Celtic word (still used in Welsh) that the Romans copied: "Bracae". The Celts started using bracae in Pannonia were they were used by the Hungarians since the Vincha time (Gimbutas). Silk bracae were used by the Hungarians on the Silk Road, from where the Sarmatians brought them back to Dacia.

    ....

  • @gogoasacenusie

    Your "Opinci" are the typical shoes used by latinazed European and Turkish shepherds: if you want to see their italian equivalent google "cioce", images.

    The Dacian hat was a Hungarian conical hat: the Dacian shape was used by Paris of Troy (Aegina temple), by the Hungarians along the silk road (see anthropology on michelangelo.cn), by the Hungarian Sarmatians (Roxolani and Jazigs) who made the army of catafracts of Decebal, and by... Decebal!!

  • @gogoasacenusie

    The Densus church is a Roman building with many different architectural additions and modifications which cannot be associated to the Dacians or the Romanians.  What you can see now are some XV frescos of people dressed as saints were dressed in Europe and at Byzantium at that time. The frames of the frescoes are HUNGARIAN SACRED SYMBOLS that you can see in Hungarian art along several millennia, and even on the Holy Crown.

  • @gogoasacenusie

    I am working on Decebal these days. I may have missed some Romanian evidence? Would you please collect a list of Romanian evidence about the Romanian ethnicity of Decebal so that I do not miss anything, pls

  • @gogoasacenusie No, do not mix language with ethnicity or genetics! The Indo-Europeans have a language, but no genetic identity (See genetics, when I upload it). Nevertheless, I have met several Italians in Romania who had migrated there in the period between the 2 WWs. Caci caval is Italian! The Italians also contributed to your ethnogenesis, as the Hungarians did.

    See this page while you wait my page on the Szekelys:

    eliznik.org.uk/EastEurope/Hist­ory/balkans-map/index.htm

  • @gogoasacenusie

    that map shall be explained in the abstract: it contains a lot of information!

    The Hungarians wrote the Vincha signs in Europe, maybe they used Kharosti in the Tarim Basin, they use the Latin alphabet nowadays. They may have used Cirillic (the Hungarians say those were rovas) as the Romanians did until recently... but the Hungarians have always been Hungarians as the Romanians have always been Romanians (since the foundation of Vlachia not before that!).

  • @gogolearnsome cont... Like this one:

    Jordanes wrote: I mean ancient Dacia, which the race of the Gepids now possess. This Gothia, which our ancestors called Dacia and now, as I have said, is called Gepidia, was then bounded on the east by the Roxolani, on the west by the Yazyg, on the north by the Sarmatians and Basternae and on the south by the river Danube. The Yazyg are separated from the Roxolani by the Aluta river only". - Getica, XII, 73-74.

    No Vlachs daco/romans etc etc get it dumbo?

  • @gogoasacenusie

    You commented my theory.

    If you comment someone' theory you must know about it.

    Do you want me to send you my books free of charge so you can read them?

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