note: the opening on these traps are slightly over the legal size . I modified my trap to make the entrances smaller to prevent catching otters. hope this helps
As far as i can see the only reason why this net is illegal for UK purposes is that the entrance to the trap is larger than the EA allow (i.e. >9.5cm across). If you placed an otter guard over this to reduce the size of the entrance, I don't see why you would not be able to use this legally? Or am I missing something here?
considering law, legal is not the same thing as lawful, illegal is NOT unlawful....legal statues, acts of parliament and legislation are NOT law (although the common belief is that they are) they are rules of law, which only carry the force of law by consent of the governed....if you do not consent, they do not carry the force of law
these traps are useless in places with snapping turtles.dont even bother!and WHERE is crayfishing illegal??WHAT?thats crazy!!!thats a natural rescource free for all,to feed the pepole with when shit hits the fan.why would it be iileagal??
To use this design of trap in England for invasive crays would still be illegal even if you had all the relevant consent from the environment agency and land owners permission. Traps need to be a certain spec and the one reviewed here is also very effective at catching otters and water voles. See environment agency web site to see this design of trap full with otter and babies.
If we are talking survival forget the pots and learn about using a net as it is so much more effective at catchin
@brigstowe2003 Thanks for the notice, I have taken your advice seriously and looked it up on the Environment Agency website and it's right. For now I have put up a notice throughout this video whilst I consider my options (I might remove the video entirely) All the best,
Found one of these in a lake nearby, In sweden Crayfishing is illegal, and trust me that was a not a survivalsituation, Civilization was just around the corner, a 100 meters away.. so I dissabled is, released the crayfish into the lake.
I recomend the large version of the trap. But this trap is good for anything; i have caught fish,crawfish, a 40 in long crayfish snake, and a good sized snapping turtle. I have yet to use my trap in saltwater but it should easily hold big blue crabs. The one and only thing i dont like about it is that the mesh isnt that strong and had a medium sized crawfish climb out of a hole he made shortly after I took the trap out of the water. The best bait to use is a dead fish or catfish stink bait.
have to get permission to use the trap???OMG THATS HORRIBLE, like being in prison. I use to catch crayfish when I was a child and didnt even have my mama's permission! Do you have to pay to register?
Depends where you are, but there regulated just like fish, and up here nobody really cares about those things, you need a license but then just follow the regs from there (that would mean places that don't allow bait fishing your hooped, or just don't let nobody see you which is pretty easy) but they'll have size of trap limits, how many you can catch a day, how many traps all that bullshit, and I agree on how we use to catch em as kids without even mamas permission:P
And honestly, don't buy any shell fish traps period (accept this product seems sweet cause the folding, but thats still easily made!) just make your own, much cheaper and they can end up much much! better, chicken fencing, wire cutters, zap straps or zip ties, rope, a milk jug, bait, and you're set:)
The entrances on either end of the trap has fine netting that is relatively loose making it easy to push and go it, but it would close behind them making it a bit trickier to get out. Of course it all depends on the size of your fish/eel as small ones could get through the holes, but that's a good measure as you don't want them anyway.
The majority of funnel style traps it is quite normal to have a bit of two way traffic in and out of the pot through the night. Some do get out, so to ensure maximum productivity the traps need to be pulled every couple of hours. Once a day is fine but you won’t land as much. Unfortunately to use the trap reviewed here even with all the relevant paperwork from the EA and the land owner would still be illegal.
To stay healthy, a person needs a reasonable standard of food - I make sure I get that by gathering whatever free food is out there, and if that means 'poaching' sometimes, then so be it!"
People generally, are too frightened by the 'law'
the ONLY law I recognise and respect is natural law
I think you need to revaluate the definition of survival my friend. If your in a position to be browsing the web & leave YouTube comments I hardly think your in a true survival situation.
A license is required in the UK due to the signal crayfish, it's an American species that has been let into the British river system and it carries a disease which has almost wiped out the native white crayfish.
It is in fact perfectly legal to stand in a river holding a crayfish you've just picked up, but as soon as you step on the bank with in it your hand, you've broken the law.
It may seem strange at first, but when you find out why the law exists, you begin to understand.
in flroida you do not need a licenes to sell them for bait, or for u to eat them, and most states you don't need a licenes because they are considerd nusians animals
@FrankAndDaveOutdoors shhhhh...let them be a nusissance otherwise we may have to register to catch crayfish, who knows a british white crayfish that carries disease might get into our riversystems
Thats a very good question and I did wonder it myself, although I don't know the legal spec for it to not trap Otters. Having said that I know this item is now commercially avaliable in a lot more place, they're popping up everywhere so I assume they are of legal specification.
i do it old school styler, i catch cray fish with a hook, i just put corn on and leave it in the water and it ussually pinches on and holds on while i slowly broig it up and net it
Not yet to be honest, the reasons being; so far I only have permission to use this on one piece of land which has a small river & lake, I put 1 Trap in each but as it was a visit we could only leave them in place for 8 hours, also the river was too small really. I've also heard the Crayfish population down here in Cornwall is very low. But I was up for catching eel or anything! :)
nice video!
note: the opening on these traps are slightly over the legal size . I modified my trap to make the entrances smaller to prevent catching otters. hope this helps
studio69leicester 5 months ago
As far as i can see the only reason why this net is illegal for UK purposes is that the entrance to the trap is larger than the EA allow (i.e. >9.5cm across). If you placed an otter guard over this to reduce the size of the entrance, I don't see why you would not be able to use this legally? Or am I missing something here?
richardfrost1977 7 months ago
why is this illegal in UK???
ErikLovesHorror 9 months ago
Nice lil traps those !
aotearoastyle 10 months ago
considering law, legal is not the same thing as lawful, illegal is NOT unlawful....legal statues, acts of parliament and legislation are NOT law (although the common belief is that they are) they are rules of law, which only carry the force of law by consent of the governed....if you do not consent, they do not carry the force of law
see john harris-its an illusion ;)
whackitov 11 months ago
these traps are useless in places with snapping turtles.dont even bother!and WHERE is crayfishing illegal??WHAT?thats crazy!!!thats a natural rescource free for all,to feed the pepole with when shit hits the fan.why would it be iileagal??
irishbreakfast 11 months ago
you also have to put somewhere safe so no somali pirates can find it.
raskinman 1 year ago
To use this design of trap in England for invasive crays would still be illegal even if you had all the relevant consent from the environment agency and land owners permission. Traps need to be a certain spec and the one reviewed here is also very effective at catching otters and water voles. See environment agency web site to see this design of trap full with otter and babies.
If we are talking survival forget the pots and learn about using a net as it is so much more effective at catchin
brigstowe2003 1 year ago 2
@brigstowe2003 Thanks for the notice, I have taken your advice seriously and looked it up on the Environment Agency website and it's right. For now I have put up a notice throughout this video whilst I consider my options (I might remove the video entirely) All the best,
Ashley Cawley.
NaturalBushcraft 1 year ago
Found one of these in a lake nearby, In sweden Crayfishing is illegal, and trust me that was a not a survivalsituation, Civilization was just around the corner, a 100 meters away.. so I dissabled is, released the crayfish into the lake.
MooseHunter911 1 year ago
Does that trap work for you?
10animalman 1 year ago
I recomend the large version of the trap. But this trap is good for anything; i have caught fish,crawfish, a 40 in long crayfish snake, and a good sized snapping turtle. I have yet to use my trap in saltwater but it should easily hold big blue crabs. The one and only thing i dont like about it is that the mesh isnt that strong and had a medium sized crawfish climb out of a hole he made shortly after I took the trap out of the water. The best bait to use is a dead fish or catfish stink bait.
SUBSCRIBE2meTV 1 year ago
kewl
ILLESTwhiteNI66A911 1 year ago
I bet the FORIEGNERS LOVE THEM
jackawoof 1 year ago
have to get permission to use the trap???OMG THATS HORRIBLE, like being in prison. I use to catch crayfish when I was a child and didnt even have my mama's permission! Do you have to pay to register?
ln4359 2 years ago
Depends where you are, but there regulated just like fish, and up here nobody really cares about those things, you need a license but then just follow the regs from there (that would mean places that don't allow bait fishing your hooped, or just don't let nobody see you which is pretty easy) but they'll have size of trap limits, how many you can catch a day, how many traps all that bullshit, and I agree on how we use to catch em as kids without even mamas permission:P
irish420Hitman 1 year ago
And honestly, don't buy any shell fish traps period (accept this product seems sweet cause the folding, but thats still easily made!) just make your own, much cheaper and they can end up much much! better, chicken fencing, wire cutters, zap straps or zip ties, rope, a milk jug, bait, and you're set:)
irish420Hitman 1 year ago
how does it work for eels, wouldn't they be able to just swim out
stoofpipe 2 years ago
The entrances on either end of the trap has fine netting that is relatively loose making it easy to push and go it, but it would close behind them making it a bit trickier to get out. Of course it all depends on the size of your fish/eel as small ones could get through the holes, but that's a good measure as you don't want them anyway.
NaturalBushcraft 2 years ago
The majority of funnel style traps it is quite normal to have a bit of two way traffic in and out of the pot through the night. Some do get out, so to ensure maximum productivity the traps need to be pulled every couple of hours. Once a day is fine but you won’t land as much. Unfortunately to use the trap reviewed here even with all the relevant paperwork from the EA and the land owner would still be illegal.
brigstowe2003 1 year ago
How much is one of these traps. I like that it folds up. There aren't always 2 liter bottles around.
SurvivalWithBushcraf 2 years ago
seen one online for like 6 pounds or 8 bucks
jootai 2 years ago
in norway they cost 2 bucks
SNIPERJOAKIM 2 years ago
@SurvivalWithBushcraf wonder how you'd make one or something similar for a SHTF scenario, what materials are used to make one?
ln4359 2 years ago
Im in one right now!..that's why I wrote.
To stay healthy, a person needs a reasonable standard of food - I make sure I get that by gathering whatever free food is out there, and if that means 'poaching' sometimes, then so be it!"
People generally, are too frightened by the 'law'
the ONLY law I recognise and respect is natural law
eastindiaman 2 years ago
I think you need to revaluate the definition of survival my friend. If your in a position to be browsing the web & leave YouTube comments I hardly think your in a true survival situation.
NaturalBushcraft 2 years ago 8
to hell with 'legal'!...................Bushcraft = survival.
In MY books survival takes precedence over any 'legal'!
Good series from you nonetheless....like the vids
eastindiaman 2 years ago 2
1. No, Bushcraft does not simply = Survival.
2. Yes, a TRUE survival situation does take precedence over any laws, but have you ever been in a REAL survival situation yet?
NaturalBushcraft 2 years ago
Are you serious? You need legal permission/a license to trap a few crayfish for personal consumption/bait?????
Brokennock 2 years ago
Unfortunatly yes, im with you; personally I think its mad but thats the way the world has gone.
You'll need to get permission from landowners and then no doubt need to seek out a liscence.
NaturalBushcraft 2 years ago
A license is required in the UK due to the signal crayfish, it's an American species that has been let into the British river system and it carries a disease which has almost wiped out the native white crayfish.
It is in fact perfectly legal to stand in a river holding a crayfish you've just picked up, but as soon as you step on the bank with in it your hand, you've broken the law.
It may seem strange at first, but when you find out why the law exists, you begin to understand.
TheAngryBum 2 years ago
in flroida you do not need a licenes to sell them for bait, or for u to eat them, and most states you don't need a licenes because they are considerd nusians animals
CrawdadOutdoors 2 years ago
how are they a nuissance?? they taste amazing with some old bay!!!
FrankAndDaveOutdoors 2 years ago
@FrankAndDaveOutdoors shhhhh...let them be a nusissance otherwise we may have to register to catch crayfish, who knows a british white crayfish that carries disease might get into our riversystems
ln4359 2 years ago
Thats a cool song at the end of the video.
noweirdbeard 2 years ago
does anyone know where to get the license in uk
TheMrHarryShow 2 years ago
what could substitue crawfish trap? ex.prawn trap, minnow trap,
daiton64 2 years ago
i use minnow traps here in missouri it works perfectley and i also use sausage
adam50wainwright 2 years ago
not by law in south australia we can have lots of them in the water cool hay.
27simber 2 years ago
zack brown catching crawfish . how cool is
that..lol
TheMathewLopez 2 years ago
That's a pretty wide entrance, is it otter proof?
Adambrew 2 years ago
Thats a very good question and I did wonder it myself, although I don't know the legal spec for it to not trap Otters. Having said that I know this item is now commercially avaliable in a lot more place, they're popping up everywhere so I assume they are of legal specification.
NaturalBushcraft 2 years ago
then again, just cuz stuff is popping up everywhere doesn't mean it's legal, drugs for example
TheRebelMonkey 2 years ago
True, but then your forgetting that these are legally registered businesses selling products in a legal maner to the public.
NaturalBushcraft 2 years ago
i do it old school styler, i catch cray fish with a hook, i just put corn on and leave it in the water and it ussually pinches on and holds on while i slowly broig it up and net it
bosnianharis123 2 years ago
what is a good bait for catching crayfish?
cannibalchild99 2 years ago
fish...
ravenshield56 2 years ago
How do I get ahold of one of these...is there a website where I can order one?
dardee22 2 years ago
Cabelos online fishing site carries them .
I had one and they do work but a snapper tore it up to get the fish inside thus went back to metal types
MtWhiteCld 2 years ago
how do i find permission for trap setting?
it looks like quite worthwile
corpsemunger 2 years ago
i have one :0)
hobbexp 3 years ago
Nice one Ash, have you caught anything with it yet? :)
RedheadCobweb 3 years ago
Not yet to be honest, the reasons being; so far I only have permission to use this on one piece of land which has a small river & lake, I put 1 Trap in each but as it was a visit we could only leave them in place for 8 hours, also the river was too small really. I've also heard the Crayfish population down here in Cornwall is very low. But I was up for catching eel or anything! :)
NaturalBushcraft 3 years ago
That's a shame. Keep persevering, you'll get something, probably in spring.
We are getting a lot of the signal crayfish here in Ludlow and the water agency is fuming!
RedheadCobweb 3 years ago