>>>> WARNING: Don't waste your time debating with --------> "RetSquid."
He's either a paid dis-info agent of the IRS and/or the Federal Reserve, or he's simply a jack-off cheerleader for slavery incorporated.
Scroll through the old comments from this video and MANY others like it, and you'll see he's been trolling them for up to 4 YEARS. He trolls tax protest videos only. Strange, don't you think?
wow talk about BRAINWASHING i hope people that watch this upload SEE it for what it really is this is psycological WARfare designed to convince you to pay income tax INCOME TAX is ILLEGAL get it yet? income tax is illegal INTERNATIONALLY illegal.this is a GIANT SCHEEM to trick you into accepting this illegal robbery of the evryday person these bankers are robbers the fines and penalties etc will ultimately amount to a pittence compare to what the stole.get it?GET IT?!!!? long live Freedom;)
I'm waiting for the tax on farting, it can't be far off, they have covered everything else. every-one donated money to the bush fire victims, then had the insurance go up by 40% or so, wait for the flood insurance rise.
A note to self: What u steal by evading taxes u should lend lend to the government and earn interest on it. In that way the government pays u 'tax' and u get even richer.
NameFrUtube...you have rediscovered the Mediterranean Sea a little too late. The "Federal" "Reserve" does just that and you haven't been invited, what are you going to do about it?
I just happen to know that there is absolutely no capital gains tax in ur country. There is no strict definition of income either. Doesn't that sound like an invitation to be creative while doing business down there?
People will always try to evade taxes in legal or illegal way. Why? Because it is natural for people to preserve their property against a thiefs. Even if the thief is legitimized robbery organization like state.
If he's in the hands of authorities he's already dead.
This seems like the kind of propaganda where they use high drama to make people believe one country is different than another when they are all just corporations trading on the SEC registered in Washington DC
I would hope that this doesn't support all those peer myths propagated by the court historians, court reporters and court jesters.
Some people are ready to think outside the box and hear the truth.
120 IQ just isnt 129 lyme ! THE US spends more on healthcare than any other country on the planet use a piece of that pucilanimous 120 and look it up ! It depends alot on who you are as to the degree of care you may get this is the result of the overload on our healthcare system by illegals and non US citizens as well as the poor and indegent. You can still get the finest care in the world if you are productively employed and have insurance . As for your food? It is mostly Imported look it up !
The fact the USA spends more on the health and still only has a health service just better than cuba should open your eyes to what a crap system it is. I could snnd a million pounds on buying crap it does not turn the crap into gold. We in Europe do not import our food we make it thanks to the CAP. Do you mean the UK?
LOL that's why people come from all over the world to get health care here. There isn't anything wrong with our healthcare besides the fact that it's way too expensive, due to the gov't created HMOs. How does it feel to be so ignorant?
Highroller you are a dumb twat. People go to India to get healh care too. It means fuck all. Fuck you are one dumb propagandised dickhead. People from abroad get healthcare in your country that americans cannot and you think that is something to boast of what an utter prick.
Impression of you
Yippie i;m going to die but people from abroad can use the graatest health care in the planet BUll shit why do youy thinl it is the best helath care. You utter prick. You have no evidence
These websites should fill some of the gaps that your "graduate-level education" obviously left. I mean, we can't all be as smart as you and ignore basic education in order to fast-track it to enlightenment.
I am sure you look them up every day and it still can't get through your thick unedcuated skull. I have postgraduate qualifications and an IQ of 120. You are just dumb scum filth who takes whathever fox news news tells you i bet you are not even rich you are just some sick slave. Keep taking it up your butt from your master you pathetic slave.
Hahahahaha You keep saying "I have postgraduate qualifications and an IQ of 120" which means that you dropped out of grad school and took an online IQ test that runs ads on Google.
What! I did not drop out of grad school you utter pratt. Do you know what post means you idiot. Of for fucks sake you do not even know the difference between pre and post. Post means after graduation. I did my degree and beyond that you utter neanderthal. What an oik.
We should all be so lucky to afford fancy accountants. It isn't a social justice manner that rich people hide their assets, it is a social matter that the government sees the need to tax your labor--I mean take your labor by force. It sounds a lot like slavery, doesn't it.
If you are not at the top (may it be power or money), you are a slave - 95% of us are.
There is joke putting down lawyers of being heartless people, it could works very well to use on the bankers too. Charging 18+% interest on credit card loan is a blood sucking act.
We're slaves? We're a slave to a government that takes from A and gives to B. I don't know you, but I'm sure you don't know what actual slavery is: i.e. being sold and carted around as chatel.
If you or I don't want to work in the morning we don't have to. Who made the choice to get a credit card? I never have and I never will.
If you don't want the services of a credit card or lawyer, don't buy them.
Unfortunately, we're all obliged to consume the government's silly products.
Yeah, because there was never a society prior to the income tax ... in the nineteenth century. I guess the artwork, literature and scientific discoveries then weren't a result of a society. That's good to know.
I guess what societies ought to do is fund income tax-funded large scale wars of agression in Iraq (1991 and 2003) and in Europe (WWI and WWII). Now those are hallmarks of a well-founded society. Go pat yourself on the back, Uncle Joe.
No we should have income tax funded equality and justice. You are the slave for saying the wealthy should be far wealthier than the poor and should not provide for the public services. You support the slave master i support the slaves only an idiot would thin a millionaire is a slave. I do not think there are many millionaire slaves. Now go bat yourself on your back slave master. Have you finnished whipping black people today nazi boy. Yesss.
The income tax is not a necessary condition for equality and justice. The income tax itself is a means to enforce inequality. Government money is never fairly distributed and it rarely leads to genuine social change. That only comes about through entrepreneurial intuition and individual skills.
I'll pose this question: Is it right to tax the parents of Watts to send the children of Beverly Hills to college?
A non corrupt decent government will distribute money properly It does look at the NHS, compare it to the USA. Yes it is right to tax the parents of watts to send people to college that is how working class people get to college. .
Okay, maybe you don't know what Watts is. So I'll pose it to you in terms you might understand. Is it right to tax poor people who tend not to attend college to send rich kids to Oxford? Do you know what I did to get into college? I took out loans. If you don't like that option, don't go to college. College won't make you rich.
As for the NHS, it piggy backs on US medical technology developed under competition in the free market. I haven't heard of may medical breakthroughs in Europe.
The American health service is lower than the UK on the WHO. It is only just above cuba which the USA has sanctions on. The US health service is crap. I think it is right to tax people to send people to college and this is about rich people paying tax so what does that have to do with poor people paying tax. I think poor people should not pay tax. Thye are not what this video is about.
Even well meaning governments are inept and can't fairly distribute money. There is simply too much information to deal with. The market is the best tool. Then again, a non-corrupt government is like the tooth-fairy. It doesn't exist.
Well meaning governments are not inept look at the difference between the americans and our health service, the usa helath service is crap only just above a third world communist tyranny like Cuba. Not much to be proud of. The extreme free market is failure. A mixed ecnomy with huigh taxes on the rich is correct.
Are you saying that poor people are less capable than the rich to make goods and services to sell on the open market? That's laughable. If anything, the rich conspire with government to keep poor people out of the market and the poor conspire with the government to soak the rich. Each side uses the government as his bludgeon to coerce the other into action. How about no bludgeon?
No the rich conspire to create an extreme free market where they can get low taxes where the poor get nothing. You claim surely thrt poor can make goods and services well if it that is true they are not poor. I suppose a mixed encomy of high taxes for the rich and the free market.
You're a fucking retard. You can't even present an argument or type coherently, for that matter. Say what you want about KOROoutbreak but at least he could articulate his thoughts. You are just a very confused person and frankly I don't know if YOU even know where you stand.
highroller12208 go fuck yourself you paedo nazi creep. I have an IQ of 120 and postgraduate qualifications i do not need an uneducated cunt like you insulting me. I am totally sure of my views. I support high taxes on the rich in mized ecnomy. How is that confsuing you dick for brains. You have difficulty understanding people you ladyboy paedo.
highroller12208 go fuck yourself dumb fuck i can spell these re typos you gornant fuck. youy have obnviously have no eedcuation. Thuis you tube no an esxsay you cunt. I have better qualifications that a dumb fuck like you end of.l
So are the poor so inept they can't make provide anything of value? That's pretty insulting to the poor of the world. The rich conspire to make an "extreme free market?" That's the last thing dominant businesses want. They usually strive for government backed monopolies and subsidies: look at the EU Common Agricultural Policy, the East India Trading Company, and the US's current incarnations such as Enron and the ethanol welfare queens.
A non corrupt government is about as likely as santa
The EU CAP subsidies are right they ensure european food security. It is right wing extremism to get rid of the CAP that would leave us in the situation we are with oil were we are dependent on other nations for our oil imagine if we were dependent on other nations for our food. It would be a nightmare. Big business loves extreme free market.
How are they defining being last in health care? Number of people served, then maybe because a lot of Americans--myself included--don't consume that service. If it is in advances of medical technology and treatment, I'm sorry, but the UK and the rest of the world are behind the US.
EU CAP? What a great way for rich nations to keep poor nations from selling their goods. It looks like to me you're the rich guy. Oil? Again, government backed monopolies.
We define health by WHO ranking. That is just immature to say the american health service is the best when there is no evidence to suggest that.
The EU CAP is needed to ensure our food security if you want to be dependent on other nations for food fair enough. But you are an emeny of this nations food security. African nations should subsidise their food industry. not wreck out food industry.
I'll just let what you said end this argument, because you clearly have no standards. Soak the rich to help the poor. Exclude the poor to help the rich. That makes no sense. I'm an enemy of your food security? Even though they don't grow a lot of crops in the EU--like bananas and pineapple--when was the last time they weren't available? When was the last time you couldn't get gas? In the USSR they couldn't get those due to no free trade. Prices rising doesn't mean a loss of independence.
Well the american wars of independence was not funded by income tax. I do not see what you are getting at. You seem to claim every war was funded by income tax. The USA had that was with mexico before income tax exisited.
It starts the minute you're born you're owned look at your birth certificate it's on security paper, run the number. The schools, TV & the clergy mold your mind into the do's & don'ts. They the rich & powerful mastered the control of the masses. Look, you had Dr Ron Paul in the USA who has screamed no "IRS" no "Income tax" and sound money for over 30 yrs. What do Americans do? Vote against their better interest. Stupidity plays a major part here. If they ask & you give it, it's not stealing.
the vast majority of us are "wage slaves" who sell our labour power for wages, so that we can stay well enough to carry on selling our labour power to employers (exploiters) who hold back as much of the excess profit by paying as little as they can. if we are going to continue living under this system and stop the steady slide into barbarism (which i doubt) the least we should demand is that the rich start to pay their way in society and stop sponging off the rest of us.
How would we be in debt if the government stopped spending money? The only countries to make a surplus are also the countries with the lowest takes and the least government intervention (economically speaking). North Korea, on the other hand, does SO WELL being the complete opposite that they said "fuck food" and started eating bark off of trees. But that's because they're ballers.
How could the government stop spending money when people with money who are allegedly supposed to spend their wealth don't do the things they have to do to keep our civilization intact.
What? The rich spending their wealth doesn't do us a whole lot of good, what does us good is the rich reinvesting their wealth and creating more capital, and the vast majority of the rich are rich because they know how to efficiently invest capital. What taxes do is they take capital away from people who know what to do with it and give it to an entity who redistributes it inefficiently, slowing economic progress.
Deflation being bad is a myth created by faulty economics and promoted by governments who find it convenient to have the power to create money out of thin air. All deflation does is it makes your money more valuable. In fact, if we had a commodity-backed currency, such as gold, we would be able to place our money in 100% reserve banks.
No. If we had a commodity backed economy, our economy would be at the mercy of commodities, and more importantly at the mercy of other nations manipulating commodities. If you don't believe me, look at the largest commodity driven economy in the world, Russia. They're doing just great, aren't they! The Russian stock market has nearly collapsed (down 75%) despite imposing one of the lowest and most liberal (in the traditional sense) flat taxes on Earth. Money is a game, a game needs rules.
2) Natural gas and oil only make up 5.7% of Russia's GDP while agriculture only makes up 6. I don't see how this matters.
3) You're not taking into account a business owner having to bribe corrupt officials and paying protection to the mob, not to mention an inflation rate that stays between 15 and 20% (due to a fiat currency). I'm sure that businessmen getting their assets seized and thrown in jail really encourages economic growth too.
1. That deflation is a "myth." 2. Google "Russian economy will depend on commodity prices" and hit the top link. The point is that if you base an economy and the value of a currency and a budget on any one commodity, be it gold or oil, you are at the mercy of that commodity. This is part of why a strong central bank is crucial to protecting a currency from the unforeseen ebbs and flows of an international market.
All it says is that growth will be slowed but not stopped by a decrease in energy prices... So what, South Korea's economy relies heavily on electronics. Oil isn't used as a medium of exchange and neither is electronics.
All central banks do is create more money to transfer wealth from the people to the government. Milton Friedman proved that the Great Depression was heavily accelerated, if not caused by, the Federal Reserve (confirmed by Big Ben himself).
3. Those are important features of the Russian economy. I meant to use it as an example of a currency who's value is completely intrinsic of commodities markets.
It's currency is by no means intrinsic of the commodities markets, and if gold was used as a currency, gold would only appear on commodities markets as the value attached to any traded commodity.
4. a) Gold must be mined from other nations, making it a risk. b) gold and silver standards are dangerous whenever you have to do things with money and you don't have it. such as start a war. or invest in a massive crisis solution, such as energy independence. this is why we stopped using it. c) gold and silver are in and of themselves worthless to a human being. about as worthless as a piece of paper that says "dollar" on it. their value is only determined by their availability.
a) You must not know what comparative advantage is and how everyone mutually benefits from trade.
b) That attitude is what got us a $10T public debt, not including bailouts. Who want's to start a war anyway? Bush, Hitler, Tojo...
c) Gold has been used since the beginning of recorded history as a symbol of wealth and power AROUND THE WORLD, because of it's features. The security of gold as a symbol of wealth is as secure as human vanity. Even if civilization crumbles gold will still have value.
Oh yeah - energy independence... Maybe the government should stop meddling and let the market decide when it's time to become independent. Last time I checked every asshole and his mother is still driving an SUV, so I think we have some ways to go
Yes. Well, since you mentioned automobiles as an example, you may wish to do some research on what "the market" did for lead in gasoline and windshields that didn't break in such a way as to slaughter anybody that happened to go through them. The market does not regulate itself. It never has and it never will. The market is a game. A game needs referees. A game needs rules. It might take another depression to get that across to people.
It's not a game, and think about what you just said the next time you buy organic food or notice nobody buying chinese toothpaste. Government restrictions on the liberty of free men result only in hardship and misery for everyone. We never hear about how many people die because a coward FDA inspector is afraid to approve a new drug or how many people become addicted to pain killers when marijuana could be prescribed. Your problem is that you feel the need to impose your will on others.
"It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion", because a tax on "the luxuries and vanities of life [which] occasion the principal expense of the rich... would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable."
Smith argued against the corporations tendency for unaccountable power and corruption. Speaking of the East India Company, he writes The great increase of their fortune had, it seems, only served to furnish their servants with a pretext for greater profusion, and a concern for greater malversation, than in proportion even to that increase of fortune. In other words, market forces are not composed merely of self-interested merchants doing whats best for the consumer.
You are COMPLETELY misquoting and twisting the words father of modern economics in order to support your argument which has failed from the start. That quote comes from ch2 pg14 (Article I) of the Wealth of Nations under a section called "Taxes upon the Rent of a House" and declares that anyone living in an obnoxious house should pay tax in proportion to that... No where does it mention a progressive income tax. In Article II he goes on to make the case against income and capital gains tax.
I'm actually paraphrasing Paul Krugman. Obviously I can't actually get into this on a youtube comments board. Case in point, the free market has failed.
That's because Paul Krugman tries to fit everything into a Keynesian mold, and the fact that I just showed how he uses deception should make you a little skeptical. Haha I know that you had a point, but I don't think you've had much of a case. Advice: It's easier to argue for the free market than against it and that in itself should tell you something.
I argue for the free market and the socialist market, a mixed economy. You are an idiot if you thin th pure free market is allways the best. The soviet union had quicker economic growth than the USA during the depression. The left wing restored the USA to a superpower after the 1929 - 33 deopression you are dickhead who talks crap. You know fuck all about history you are just an ignorant red neck.
Again, you need to learn the intricacies of the English language before you start throwing the "ignorant" word around. The socialists created the depression and then created systems which would eventually bury our country in debt. But I refuse to have this conversation with an illiterate scumbag who lies about having an IQ of 120 and an unspecified graduates degree.
Ok dumbass, if you had actually read the Wealth of Nations and hadn't ripped a bunch of bullshit off of a socialist news letter you would see that Smith was talking about sovereigns (WoN Ch 2 Pg 2) - EAST INDIA COMPANY ≠ FREE MARKET. It was a government imposed monopoly and BECAUSE of the spread of Adam Smith's ideology the British Gov't passed the Charter Act of 1833, removing all special treatment and government support from the East India Company.
it blew me away when i heard about the CIA's "dope dealing" in the 1980's
It is even more amazing to me how the American govt. can grow hundreds of acres of "medical marijuana" in the U.S., for "science labs". Yet, 755,000 people per year are arrested and thrown in jail for possession of small amounts of marijuana in the U.S..
if bill has 250,bush and cheny have to be getten near a tril.Thats free market,it "might" be immoral,but its legal,and you get to do anything you want,including make all the rules.Whats funny,is that the people dont do anything.
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>>>> WARNING: Don't waste your time debating with --------> "RetSquid."
He's either a paid dis-info agent of the IRS and/or the Federal Reserve, or he's simply a jack-off cheerleader for slavery incorporated.
Scroll through the old comments from this video and MANY others like it, and you'll see he's been trolling them for up to 4 YEARS. He trolls tax protest videos only. Strange, don't you think?
BRYAN351 1 month ago
wow talk about BRAINWASHING i hope people that watch this upload SEE it for what it really is this is psycological WARfare designed to convince you to pay income tax INCOME TAX is ILLEGAL get it yet? income tax is illegal INTERNATIONALLY illegal.this is a GIANT SCHEEM to trick you into accepting this illegal robbery of the evryday person these bankers are robbers the fines and penalties etc will ultimately amount to a pittence compare to what the stole.get it?GET IT?!!!? long live Freedom;)
mannyvillalba 7 months ago 2
Heinrich Kieber*
nyrbsamoht 1 year ago
This Kiber is a criminal and he should be behind bars!
tangaroa67 1 year ago
this is handy for when i win the lotto (:
ad1665 1 year ago
great lip-sync journeyman
bealerDSB 1 year ago
I'm waiting for the tax on farting, it can't be far off, they have covered everything else. every-one donated money to the bush fire victims, then had the insurance go up by 40% or so, wait for the flood insurance rise.
sserddab 1 year ago
wikileaks?
MrLukasart 1 year ago
the best place on Earth
schranztech 1 year ago
lol, Too bad theres not even a law to pay tax..... haha
Wake Up People
EasyEbookMan 2 years ago
@EasyEbookMan
Title 26 Section1.
RetSquid 1 year ago
I whish I could move to Liechtenstein and protect the fruits of my labor against the thieves who run my country..
carlorocha 2 years ago 2
The don't allow nutcases into their country.
myrmecia1977 2 years ago
So you'd be out then?
Individualism101 2 years ago
Kieber u useless dickhead !!!!
Boxstar11 2 years ago
gosh that's such a hard sell.
dreemLight 2 years ago
Wow.Give me a job.
karuspery 3 years ago
A note to self: What u steal by evading taxes u should lend lend to the government and earn interest on it. In that way the government pays u 'tax' and u get even richer.
IT'S GOOD TO B THE KING.
NameFrUtube 3 years ago
lol great idea,i never thought of that
bussmove 3 years ago
NameFrUtube...you have rediscovered the Mediterranean Sea a little too late. The "Federal" "Reserve" does just that and you haven't been invited, what are you going to do about it?
lvildos 2 years ago
I think I'll invest some of my money in your lil country and take advantage of its uniquely generous capital gains scheme.
NameFrUtube 2 years ago 4
thanks for posting but reveal to us if you are allowed, what is it you are trying to illustrate us with ?
lvildos 2 years ago
I just happen to know that there is absolutely no capital gains tax in ur country. There is no strict definition of income either. Doesn't that sound like an invitation to be creative while doing business down there?
NameFrUtube 2 years ago
NameFrUtube...I'm not down there, I'm up here
lvildos 2 years ago
People will always try to evade taxes in legal or illegal way. Why? Because it is natural for people to preserve their property against a thiefs. Even if the thief is legitimized robbery organization like state.
reddwarf2300282 3 years ago 2
If he's in the hands of authorities he's already dead.
This seems like the kind of propaganda where they use high drama to make people believe one country is different than another when they are all just corporations trading on the SEC registered in Washington DC
I would hope that this doesn't support all those peer myths propagated by the court historians, court reporters and court jesters.
Some people are ready to think outside the box and hear the truth.
SlaveStorm 3 years ago
120 IQ just isnt 129 lyme ! THE US spends more on healthcare than any other country on the planet use a piece of that pucilanimous 120 and look it up ! It depends alot on who you are as to the degree of care you may get this is the result of the overload on our healthcare system by illegals and non US citizens as well as the poor and indegent. You can still get the finest care in the world if you are productively employed and have insurance . As for your food? It is mostly Imported look it up !
DarthBerga 3 years ago
The fact the USA spends more on the health and still only has a health service just better than cuba should open your eyes to what a crap system it is. I could snnd a million pounds on buying crap it does not turn the crap into gold. We in Europe do not import our food we make it thanks to the CAP. Do you mean the UK?
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
LOL that's why people come from all over the world to get health care here. There isn't anything wrong with our healthcare besides the fact that it's way too expensive, due to the gov't created HMOs. How does it feel to be so ignorant?
highroller12208 3 years ago
Highroller you are a dumb twat. People go to India to get healh care too. It means fuck all. Fuck you are one dumb propagandised dickhead. People from abroad get healthcare in your country that americans cannot and you think that is something to boast of what an utter prick.
Impression of you
Yippie i;m going to die but people from abroad can use the graatest health care in the planet BUll shit why do youy thinl it is the best helath care. You utter prick. You have no evidence
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
typing-lessons. org
grammar-monster. com
pppst. com/economics. html
These websites should fill some of the gaps that your "graduate-level education" obviously left. I mean, we can't all be as smart as you and ignore basic education in order to fast-track it to enlightenment.
highroller12208 3 years ago
I am sure you look them up every day and it still can't get through your thick unedcuated skull. I have postgraduate qualifications and an IQ of 120. You are just dumb scum filth who takes whathever fox news news tells you i bet you are not even rich you are just some sick slave. Keep taking it up your butt from your master you pathetic slave.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
Hahahahaha You keep saying "I have postgraduate qualifications and an IQ of 120" which means that you dropped out of grad school and took an online IQ test that runs ads on Google.
highroller12208 3 years ago
What! I did not drop out of grad school you utter pratt. Do you know what post means you idiot. Of for fucks sake you do not even know the difference between pre and post. Post means after graduation. I did my degree and beyond that you utter neanderthal. What an oik.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
Obviously were still having trouble with the English language - I'm implying that you're a liar.
highroller12208 3 years ago
Post means after you idiot. Pre means before. You are the one who does not understand basic language.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
I know that jerkoff I'M SAYING THAT YOU'RE A LIAR
highroller12208 3 years ago
You are the wanker.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
Did you learn that word in your post-graduate qualification course?
highroller12208 3 years ago
Nope. I don't study wanking you obviously do.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
Then you must've majored in being a stupid cunt
highroller12208 3 years ago
Nope you did. You are a first class stupid cunt.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
The true measure of an intelligent person is how he handles the unintelligent person.
guapoto 3 years ago 14
Good point. I agree. I have handled the idiots very well thanks for the compliment.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
ah let the rich keep there money what did they ever do to you.
LTDreams 3 years ago
Liechteinstein should be invaded.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
We should all be so lucky to afford fancy accountants. It isn't a social justice manner that rich people hide their assets, it is a social matter that the government sees the need to tax your labor--I mean take your labor by force. It sounds a lot like slavery, doesn't it.
nhahn1 3 years ago
If you are not at the top (may it be power or money), you are a slave - 95% of us are.
There is joke putting down lawyers of being heartless people, it could works very well to use on the bankers too. Charging 18+% interest on credit card loan is a blood sucking act.
digitsync 3 years ago
We're slaves? We're a slave to a government that takes from A and gives to B. I don't know you, but I'm sure you don't know what actual slavery is: i.e. being sold and carted around as chatel.
If you or I don't want to work in the morning we don't have to. Who made the choice to get a credit card? I never have and I never will.
If you don't want the services of a credit card or lawyer, don't buy them.
Unfortunately, we're all obliged to consume the government's silly products.
nhahn1 3 years ago
No it is not. It is a way of ensuring society exisits.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
Yeah, because there was never a society prior to the income tax ... in the nineteenth century. I guess the artwork, literature and scientific discoveries then weren't a result of a society. That's good to know.
I guess what societies ought to do is fund income tax-funded large scale wars of agression in Iraq (1991 and 2003) and in Europe (WWI and WWII). Now those are hallmarks of a well-founded society. Go pat yourself on the back, Uncle Joe.
nhahn1 3 years ago
No we should have income tax funded equality and justice. You are the slave for saying the wealthy should be far wealthier than the poor and should not provide for the public services. You support the slave master i support the slaves only an idiot would thin a millionaire is a slave. I do not think there are many millionaire slaves. Now go bat yourself on your back slave master. Have you finnished whipping black people today nazi boy. Yesss.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
The income tax is not a necessary condition for equality and justice. The income tax itself is a means to enforce inequality. Government money is never fairly distributed and it rarely leads to genuine social change. That only comes about through entrepreneurial intuition and individual skills.
I'll pose this question: Is it right to tax the parents of Watts to send the children of Beverly Hills to college?
nhahn1 3 years ago
A non corrupt decent government will distribute money properly It does look at the NHS, compare it to the USA. Yes it is right to tax the parents of watts to send people to college that is how working class people get to college. .
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
Okay, maybe you don't know what Watts is. So I'll pose it to you in terms you might understand. Is it right to tax poor people who tend not to attend college to send rich kids to Oxford? Do you know what I did to get into college? I took out loans. If you don't like that option, don't go to college. College won't make you rich.
As for the NHS, it piggy backs on US medical technology developed under competition in the free market. I haven't heard of may medical breakthroughs in Europe.
nhahn1 3 years ago
The American health service is lower than the UK on the WHO. It is only just above cuba which the USA has sanctions on. The US health service is crap. I think it is right to tax people to send people to college and this is about rich people paying tax so what does that have to do with poor people paying tax. I think poor people should not pay tax. Thye are not what this video is about.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
Even well meaning governments are inept and can't fairly distribute money. There is simply too much information to deal with. The market is the best tool. Then again, a non-corrupt government is like the tooth-fairy. It doesn't exist.
nhahn1 3 years ago
Well meaning governments are not inept look at the difference between the americans and our health service, the usa helath service is crap only just above a third world communist tyranny like Cuba. Not much to be proud of. The extreme free market is failure. A mixed ecnomy with huigh taxes on the rich is correct.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
Are you saying that poor people are less capable than the rich to make goods and services to sell on the open market? That's laughable. If anything, the rich conspire with government to keep poor people out of the market and the poor conspire with the government to soak the rich. Each side uses the government as his bludgeon to coerce the other into action. How about no bludgeon?
nhahn1 3 years ago 2
No the rich conspire to create an extreme free market where they can get low taxes where the poor get nothing. You claim surely thrt poor can make goods and services well if it that is true they are not poor. I suppose a mixed encomy of high taxes for the rich and the free market.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
You're a fucking retard. You can't even present an argument or type coherently, for that matter. Say what you want about KOROoutbreak but at least he could articulate his thoughts. You are just a very confused person and frankly I don't know if YOU even know where you stand.
highroller12208 3 years ago
highroller12208 go fuck yourself you paedo nazi creep. I have an IQ of 120 and postgraduate qualifications i do not need an uneducated cunt like you insulting me. I am totally sure of my views. I support high taxes on the rich in mized ecnomy. How is that confsuing you dick for brains. You have difficulty understanding people you ladyboy paedo.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
If you can't even spell correctly how is anyone supposed to believe your "qualifications" and your IQ score?
highroller12208 3 years ago
highroller12208 go fuck yourself dumb fuck i can spell these re typos you gornant fuck. youy have obnviously have no eedcuation. Thuis you tube no an esxsay you cunt. I have better qualifications that a dumb fuck like you end of.l
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
lol well said
highroller12208 3 years ago
So are the poor so inept they can't make provide anything of value? That's pretty insulting to the poor of the world. The rich conspire to make an "extreme free market?" That's the last thing dominant businesses want. They usually strive for government backed monopolies and subsidies: look at the EU Common Agricultural Policy, the East India Trading Company, and the US's current incarnations such as Enron and the ethanol welfare queens.
A non corrupt government is about as likely as santa
nhahn1 3 years ago
The EU CAP subsidies are right they ensure european food security. It is right wing extremism to get rid of the CAP that would leave us in the situation we are with oil were we are dependent on other nations for our oil imagine if we were dependent on other nations for our food. It would be a nightmare. Big business loves extreme free market.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
How are they defining being last in health care? Number of people served, then maybe because a lot of Americans--myself included--don't consume that service. If it is in advances of medical technology and treatment, I'm sorry, but the UK and the rest of the world are behind the US.
EU CAP? What a great way for rich nations to keep poor nations from selling their goods. It looks like to me you're the rich guy. Oil? Again, government backed monopolies.
nhahn1 3 years ago
We define health by WHO ranking. That is just immature to say the american health service is the best when there is no evidence to suggest that.
The EU CAP is needed to ensure our food security if you want to be dependent on other nations for food fair enough. But you are an emeny of this nations food security. African nations should subsidise their food industry. not wreck out food industry.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
I'll just let what you said end this argument, because you clearly have no standards. Soak the rich to help the poor. Exclude the poor to help the rich. That makes no sense. I'm an enemy of your food security? Even though they don't grow a lot of crops in the EU--like bananas and pineapple--when was the last time they weren't available? When was the last time you couldn't get gas? In the USSR they couldn't get those due to no free trade. Prices rising doesn't mean a loss of independence.
nhahn1 3 years ago
Was the american cvil war funded by tax? Nope
Was the roman empre a society you admiore where slaves were owned grow up. Mr slave master. You yankees sure love your slave masters don't ya.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
actually the civil war was funded by the first income tax, but I don't see what you're getting at
highroller12208 3 years ago
Well the american wars of independence was not funded by income tax. I do not see what you are getting at. You seem to claim every war was funded by income tax. The USA had that was with mexico before income tax exisited.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
It starts the minute you're born you're owned look at your birth certificate it's on security paper, run the number. The schools, TV & the clergy mold your mind into the do's & don'ts. They the rich & powerful mastered the control of the masses. Look, you had Dr Ron Paul in the USA who has screamed no "IRS" no "Income tax" and sound money for over 30 yrs. What do Americans do? Vote against their better interest. Stupidity plays a major part here. If they ask & you give it, it's not stealing.
ClubCatz 3 years ago
surprised? no.
the vast majority of us are "wage slaves" who sell our labour power for wages, so that we can stay well enough to carry on selling our labour power to employers (exploiters) who hold back as much of the excess profit by paying as little as they can. if we are going to continue living under this system and stop the steady slide into barbarism (which i doubt) the least we should demand is that the rich start to pay their way in society and stop sponging off the rest of us.
RAGtagBAG88 3 years ago
where's the rest?
Lifesucksdie123 3 years ago
Oh come on. There's a link in the description. =P
StubbornCanary 3 years ago
Google
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Can't miss it :)
itchefoot 3 years ago
thanks.
Lifesucksdie123 3 years ago
Another awesome documentary !
slLLyhumans 3 years ago
Yep I get my hash from the CIA lol
StarKnightt 3 years ago
I can understand people, especially Germans. We have to pay like 45% taxes..... and for your wealth you have to pay taxes too.
Tobzak 3 years ago 2
this is exactly why the income tax should be abolished, on top of it being a violation of the thirteenth amendment
highroller12208 3 years ago 2
Yes, let's insure that we continue being in debt forever. Free market idiots ruined everything. The experiment is over, get a grip on reality.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
How would we be in debt if the government stopped spending money? The only countries to make a surplus are also the countries with the lowest takes and the least government intervention (economically speaking). North Korea, on the other hand, does SO WELL being the complete opposite that they said "fuck food" and started eating bark off of trees. But that's because they're ballers.
highroller12208 3 years ago
**taxes
highroller12208 3 years ago
How could the government stop spending money when people with money who are allegedly supposed to spend their wealth don't do the things they have to do to keep our civilization intact.
Also: Deflation.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
What? The rich spending their wealth doesn't do us a whole lot of good, what does us good is the rich reinvesting their wealth and creating more capital, and the vast majority of the rich are rich because they know how to efficiently invest capital. What taxes do is they take capital away from people who know what to do with it and give it to an entity who redistributes it inefficiently, slowing economic progress.
highroller12208 3 years ago
Deflation being bad is a myth created by faulty economics and promoted by governments who find it convenient to have the power to create money out of thin air. All deflation does is it makes your money more valuable. In fact, if we had a commodity-backed currency, such as gold, we would be able to place our money in 100% reserve banks.
Keynesian economics = epic fail
highroller12208 3 years ago
No. If we had a commodity backed economy, our economy would be at the mercy of commodities, and more importantly at the mercy of other nations manipulating commodities. If you don't believe me, look at the largest commodity driven economy in the world, Russia. They're doing just great, aren't they! The Russian stock market has nearly collapsed (down 75%) despite imposing one of the lowest and most liberal (in the traditional sense) flat taxes on Earth. Money is a game, a game needs rules.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
1) What are you saying no to?
2) Natural gas and oil only make up 5.7% of Russia's GDP while agriculture only makes up 6. I don't see how this matters.
3) You're not taking into account a business owner having to bribe corrupt officials and paying protection to the mob, not to mention an inflation rate that stays between 15 and 20% (due to a fiat currency). I'm sure that businessmen getting their assets seized and thrown in jail really encourages economic growth too.
highroller12208 3 years ago
1. That deflation is a "myth." 2. Google "Russian economy will depend on commodity prices" and hit the top link. The point is that if you base an economy and the value of a currency and a budget on any one commodity, be it gold or oil, you are at the mercy of that commodity. This is part of why a strong central bank is crucial to protecting a currency from the unforeseen ebbs and flows of an international market.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
All it says is that growth will be slowed but not stopped by a decrease in energy prices... So what, South Korea's economy relies heavily on electronics. Oil isn't used as a medium of exchange and neither is electronics.
All central banks do is create more money to transfer wealth from the people to the government. Milton Friedman proved that the Great Depression was heavily accelerated, if not caused by, the Federal Reserve (confirmed by Big Ben himself).
Kenyes = Fail
highroller12208 3 years ago
3. Those are important features of the Russian economy. I meant to use it as an example of a currency who's value is completely intrinsic of commodities markets.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
It's currency is by no means intrinsic of the commodities markets, and if gold was used as a currency, gold would only appear on commodities markets as the value attached to any traded commodity.
highroller12208 3 years ago
4) I don't understand your "other nation manipulating gold to hurt us" scenario, it doesn't make sense.
highroller12208 3 years ago
4. a) Gold must be mined from other nations, making it a risk. b) gold and silver standards are dangerous whenever you have to do things with money and you don't have it. such as start a war. or invest in a massive crisis solution, such as energy independence. this is why we stopped using it. c) gold and silver are in and of themselves worthless to a human being. about as worthless as a piece of paper that says "dollar" on it. their value is only determined by their availability.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
a) You must not know what comparative advantage is and how everyone mutually benefits from trade.
b) That attitude is what got us a $10T public debt, not including bailouts. Who want's to start a war anyway? Bush, Hitler, Tojo...
c) Gold has been used since the beginning of recorded history as a symbol of wealth and power AROUND THE WORLD, because of it's features. The security of gold as a symbol of wealth is as secure as human vanity. Even if civilization crumbles gold will still have value.
highroller12208 3 years ago
Oh yeah - energy independence... Maybe the government should stop meddling and let the market decide when it's time to become independent. Last time I checked every asshole and his mother is still driving an SUV, so I think we have some ways to go
highroller12208 3 years ago
Yes. Well, since you mentioned automobiles as an example, you may wish to do some research on what "the market" did for lead in gasoline and windshields that didn't break in such a way as to slaughter anybody that happened to go through them. The market does not regulate itself. It never has and it never will. The market is a game. A game needs referees. A game needs rules. It might take another depression to get that across to people.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
It's not a game, and think about what you just said the next time you buy organic food or notice nobody buying chinese toothpaste. Government restrictions on the liberty of free men result only in hardship and misery for everyone. We never hear about how many people die because a coward FDA inspector is afraid to approve a new drug or how many people become addicted to pain killers when marijuana could be prescribed. Your problem is that you feel the need to impose your will on others.
highroller12208 3 years ago
That is utterly tripe. Even Adam Smith disagrees with you.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
Does he? Last time I checked, Smith declared that it is in a sellers rational self-interest to keep the customers safe, alive, and happy.
highroller12208 3 years ago
"It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion", because a tax on "the luxuries and vanities of life [which] occasion the principal expense of the rich... would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable."
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
Smith argued against the corporations tendency for unaccountable power and corruption. Speaking of the East India Company, he writes The great increase of their fortune had, it seems, only served to furnish their servants with a pretext for greater profusion, and a concern for greater malversation, than in proportion even to that increase of fortune. In other words, market forces are not composed merely of self-interested merchants doing whats best for the consumer.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
You are COMPLETELY misquoting and twisting the words father of modern economics in order to support your argument which has failed from the start. That quote comes from ch2 pg14 (Article I) of the Wealth of Nations under a section called "Taxes upon the Rent of a House" and declares that anyone living in an obnoxious house should pay tax in proportion to that... No where does it mention a progressive income tax. In Article II he goes on to make the case against income and capital gains tax.
highroller12208 3 years ago
I'm actually paraphrasing Paul Krugman. Obviously I can't actually get into this on a youtube comments board. Case in point, the free market has failed.
KoroOutbreak 3 years ago
That's because Paul Krugman tries to fit everything into a Keynesian mold, and the fact that I just showed how he uses deception should make you a little skeptical. Haha I know that you had a point, but I don't think you've had much of a case. Advice: It's easier to argue for the free market than against it and that in itself should tell you something.
highroller12208 3 years ago
I argue for the free market and the socialist market, a mixed economy. You are an idiot if you thin th pure free market is allways the best. The soviet union had quicker economic growth than the USA during the depression. The left wing restored the USA to a superpower after the 1929 - 33 deopression you are dickhead who talks crap. You know fuck all about history you are just an ignorant red neck.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
Again, you need to learn the intricacies of the English language before you start throwing the "ignorant" word around. The socialists created the depression and then created systems which would eventually bury our country in debt. But I refuse to have this conversation with an illiterate scumbag who lies about having an IQ of 120 and an unspecified graduates degree.
highroller12208 3 years ago
Ok dumbass, if you had actually read the Wealth of Nations and hadn't ripped a bunch of bullshit off of a socialist news letter you would see that Smith was talking about sovereigns (WoN Ch 2 Pg 2) - EAST INDIA COMPANY ≠ FREE MARKET. It was a government imposed monopoly and BECAUSE of the spread of Adam Smith's ideology the British Gov't passed the Charter Act of 1833, removing all special treatment and government support from the East India Company.
highroller12208 3 years ago
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highroller12208 3 years ago
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PureWillpower1 3 years ago
I bet LBGT won't be asking for a bailout.
y2knoproblem 3 years ago 2
nanana nana nana nana tax me if you can (Matt Pokora song)
WKaliber1 3 years ago 5
CIA has always been dealing drugs to get some off the books Cash for the covert missions
Calamarion 3 years ago 10
Very sad, but true.
it blew me away when i heard about the CIA's "dope dealing" in the 1980's
It is even more amazing to me how the American govt. can grow hundreds of acres of "medical marijuana" in the U.S., for "science labs". Yet, 755,000 people per year are arrested and thrown in jail for possession of small amounts of marijuana in the U.S..
Isnt that the pot calling the kettle black?
MrFireAss 3 years ago 8
WOW THIS IS SHOCKING!
I've heard that Bill Clinton has 250 billion on offshore bank accounts from co-operating with CIA dealing drugs back when he was a governor!
hyubgaek 3 years ago 4
Bill CLinton is one of the biggest slime balls in US history!
bluzy25 3 years ago 2
if bill has 250,bush and cheny have to be getten near a tril.Thats free market,it "might" be immoral,but its legal,and you get to do anything you want,including make all the rules.Whats funny,is that the people dont do anything.
creten69 3 years ago
I agree LOL! Who knows what the entire Bush family have! LOL!!
hyubgaek 3 years ago
The people are to busy watching Football, Sitcoms, & arguing over which puppet should be the head of the country.
crazedmystic 3 years ago
i ya. i can imagine that the guy is in danger. the rich guys will kill him as soon as they find out where he is to protect their money
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