PlayStation 3 - Physics Effects SDK : DigInfo

[mystery18110001]

is there a version in english

[RedhotIta1]

awww 1.6ms

[cristohv]

another reason why ps3 is the best :)

[chashkakofe]

thestudentroom(.)co(.)uk/showt­hread.php?t=916995&styleid=6

[MRopticLEGEND]

he works for chinese activition

[spy4561]

Thats a Big help to Devs, I like to try this out

[KingdomTree]

lo que mas me gusto fue el juego de la pistola jaja muy bueno

[d3tach3d]

performance is there but add a whole game engine with AI, Maps,Shaders, Textures, Lighting, and all the geometry that goes with it...then lets see how all those physics perform.

[Knexxuss]

@d3tach3d uhh, it does... in every single playstation game with physics out there...

[d3tach3d]

@Knexxuss not to the amount shown the video.

[osmodivs]

Where can i find SONY's official PS3 SDK?

[Albanez39]

@osmodivs You should ask sony personally, and they must state that you have a legal game development company or a team of a couple of people and you have the specific graduation in programming..then you just buy it for more then $10 000

[osmodivs]

Where can you find the legal SDK for PS3?

[DiogoE6]

lol the link gun from UT3

[drek507]

you try that on xbox 360 and u'll get the 3 red ligths

[y2kboy145]

@drek507 lmao!

[Batu731]

hmmm, I wonder why uncharted 2 and killzone 2 both uses the Havok physics engine

[MM9610]

@Batu731 And Saints Row 2 and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and possibly countless other games...

[Joethemadman123]

Okay i've downloaded the SDK, what do I do with it and how do I install it?

:(



[xRoflCoptoRx]

You can also dl the SDK illegally :D

[VMcNab]

i hate youtube commercials. just had to get it off my chest.

[aaronrocks87]

@VMcNab dude get over it google needs money its called business.

[snapper281]

@aaronrocks87 maybe so, but they are still annoying

[RabdonFilms]

@aaronrocks87 Not Google, it's revenue sharing with Diginfo.

[2BunnyReturns]

@VMcNab

Never seen one. What channel are they on? Are they stupid?

[SQFS]

does anybody know where to download the ps3 sdk. I CAN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE !!!!

[SavageSoftware]

@SQFS

You have to become and official PS3 developer

to get the SDK. It cost about 1500 to become a PS3 developer

[warayutyahoo]

Sony registered its new trademark under the name "PS Cloud" earlier this year. Seems like consoles are going cloud in the future.

[Dkenair2]

i dont think sony needs a ps4 right now

[hardkoregamer1981]

well mario paint isn't a sdk which has nothing to do with sdk's but i'll give you two games that blows mario out of the water period one is little big planet & the other one is mod nation racers.

[suckmydog186]

what was up with the unreal tournament 3 guns?

[hardkoregamer1981]

google cell architecture explained to learn more about the cell broadband engine.

[hardkoregamer1981]

The cell broadband engine has 9 cores total 1 ppe which runs the ps3's os & most of the apps & 8 spes which 6 spes are reserved for games,the 7th spe is reserved for imagine compression & the 8th spe is left idol im assuming.this is just sdk update followed by a quick simple demonstration on physics effects that can be done on ps3's hardware.ps3 can handle alot more then this simple demonstration.

[KOFGGPO]

GOOD! VISIT MY CAHNNEL!!

[spawnxd1]

|:( no, just no. The gold source engine made by valves and the half-life 2 team is a lot better, and all of that stuff is already incorporated into it. Like ragdolls, gears, levers and pulleys, ropes, and machinations, just look at gmod.

[MidBoss]

The Source Engine is a graphics engine, not a physics engine. Source games like Half-Life 2 use Havoc physics.

[darkfire6991]

You mean GldSrc (or something, please dont get up me for my spelling)? That was the Half-Life 1 engine, heavily modified from quake 1, and has nothing to do with gmod. Basically, it is pitiful.

Just offering a correction, not an argument.

[01DOGG01]

The stuff shown is fairly basic, and already implemented in existing games.

[yewles1]

It's supposed to be efficient. This takes up only 10% of a single SPE.

[tijuaskontrolando]

great physic research

[spacecoke]

lol.. looks like the old UT2k3 physics demo :P

[RavingKunaiX]

Wow I so want that.

[666ElGrande666]

last sample 2:39 reminds me of boom boom blox for wii... wtf

ps3, shame on you

[GamepadJuggalo]

whats boom blocks

[666ElGrande666]

boom blox

a game for wii, google it

[GamepadJuggalo]

nevermind, I just downloaded it.

Pretty lame game.

[666ElGrande666]

yeah, as lame as this physics demo above ;)

[GamepadJuggalo]

The only difference, the physics demo isn't a retail game.

[Nightcover]

Most of you don't seem to get it:

This is made so the developers don't have to.

Developers can you this as there 'base' and work more specific on what they need.

[EpicDude86]

I think it's worth it but does anyone see the desparity in paying thousands of dollars for an engine liscence and then passing that onto the consumer? I know we want a certain level of quality but...60+ dollars for a new game? Especially nowadays with patches and addable content, it's like they're just farming consumers.

[ramkens]

Physx calculated trought CUDA is Sci-Fi for this...

[SolidSnakeRD]

This called developing games.

I don't mean to criticize Crytek but developing a beautiful game like crysis for a computer with super high specs is not that tough but developing beautiful games for a low end system is the true art of developing games.For example PD and their Gran Turismo series.They do everything to perfection on a system with limited power.

[xyzazen9]

well even crytek has finished their cry engine 3 which is meant to be a console "based" engine and it looks phenomenal

[EpicDude86]

Console "Based" still means developed on PCs :D

PC versatility destroys all consoles. :D

[xyzazen9]

yes of course

basically just a way to earn more profit through the more popluar console gaming

obviuosly the pc version will be best

[InfectiousFX]

try playing Gears Of War in full res on your PC.

tell me how it goes. ;D

[EpicDude86]

I don't need to, I'm a fan of older games anyways. And if I did, I'd get a new graphics card. Graphics card vs Console? Another win for PC versatility, though I'm not going to argue with you Console fanboys because that's just childish. oh and on more reason PCs are better: MSpaint bitches.

[InfectiousFX]

You would need a graphics card that costs as much as the xbox 360 to be able to play any of the newer games for PC in full res.

and I take that your MSpaint comment was a joke.

[spacecoke]

no you dont, the best cards are for future proofing, one of my single cards runs any game smoothly on full setting with high res and it was only 110 pounds (GTX 260), but i got 2 of them (sli) so i wont have to upgrade for a while... you forget that PC hardware drops in price and 360 tech is old, some old cheap PC cards outperform consoles.

[InfectiousFX]

But, who was phone?

[EpicDude86]

it's 'then who was phone?'

[InfectiousFX]

But, then, Who gives a shit?

[EpicDude86]

I totally forgot where we were going with this. Can I has meme spouting comment nao?

[InfectiousFX]

I'm in your base killin' your d00dz?

[EpicDude86]

God dommot OnfoctooosFX

[EpicDude86]

I'm pretty sure Gears of War would require a gig of hardware video ram to run at max. So let's say I got a GeForce 9800 GX2, that's top of the line now...for 270 bucks. still 30 dollars cheaper than an XBOX 360. So not only can I play console games better, I can also play PC only games and play with greater ease.

[Xurkey]

Mario Paint is better actually.

Thanks for trying.

Good game.

[EpicDude86]

I never really got into Mario Paint. I'll have to get me an emulator and play it. on my pc.

[liandzbergis]

looks surprisingly shitty. havok was at this level 5yrs ago

[longie88]

your face looks surprisingly shitty

[Rdwarrior246]

You probably have a shitty ass face also. So stop talking shit. Back your shit up.

[longie88]

what? you want me to "back my shit up"? by "shit" do you mean ass? do you want me to back my ass up? are you some kind of fruitcake? cuz ain't like that..

[ISniffDirtyPanties]

looks 5X better than xbox 360

[TrendKillStudios]

@ISniffDirtyPanties no it doesn't. I know you are a brainless fanboy, but let me explain. this physics engine is weak, ragdoll physics and other physics that wen't out of date 5 years ago. look at euphoria, ps3 and 360 compatible, yet it looks by far better than this. physx, which consoles can't fully use, looks bettter than this. havok ect, all look better than this rip off that sony made. this is why I'm a PC gamer, were treated with resepct, while I can get a physics engine for free....

[TrendKillStudios]

@ISniffDirtyPanties you guys are stuck with the bullshit that microsft and and sony come out with. also that physics engine that is free, also improves performance, while making the game look better,

[Pyware50]

@ISniffDirtyPanties This can be done in 98% of game engines. Xbox or PS3 or PC does not matter also why do you care what console is best. You must not know much about game development.

[TheMuslumPedophile]

Looks like shit, what is this doing that PC hasn't done in the past 12 years? Nothing, Good job playing catch up consoles.

[spacecoke]

yeh, the thing is that many console noobs will fall for this hype and actualy believe that they have something new lol, some people here in the comments even seem to think it is a hardware addon lol.

[TheMuslumPedophile]

Hardware addon? haha!!! ridiculous! but lets be quiet now and let the console boys battle it out! should be fun to see what they can come up with, One said to me that PS3 supports 12 controllers, had a 3 gig graphics card and is basically a super computer! Amazing things that pops into their minds!

[nikkybt]

Yes waste the money that you could buy 5 ps3's and make your computer pimped

[TheMuslumPedophile]

Your statement just goes to show that your yet ANOTHER person that thinks you have to spend 50 grand to make a PC! Idiot! Try 400, 500 dollars to make a great gaming PC that by FAR thrashes both the 360 and PS3 in performance and graphics.

If by pimped you mean gold plating's on the motherboard and wheels with 12 inch diamond plated rims to wheel my computer around when i feel like it. Then yes that's pretty pimped, but no one needs that so you won't go spending enough to buy 5 ps3's moron.

[EpicDude86]

I built my PC in 2007 and it played Crysis almost on full everything when it was released. Price? 1200. Bought on Newegg and built by me and a friend. I had an 1100 HP from the store, and while I love HP, i had tons of problems because it was a factory line computer. Rebuilt it for a couple hundred bucks and now it's my bangin' ass server compy.

[AscendedSaiyan3]

TheMuslimPedophile, PC CPUs haven't been doing physics calculation of that magnitude in that short a time in the past 12 years (or today for that matter). Intel and AMD has been leap frogged in that area by the Cell. These are facts and can't be LOGICALLY disputed.

This PC fanboy thing is weird. PCs are designed VERY differently than the PS3. For instance, there is more bandwidth between CPU and GPU in PS3 than in PCs. There is more RAM in PC GPU/CPU than PS3. Then, there are OS differences

[FoShoryuken]

No one cares are pc gaming anymore, too much piracy, not enough money. That is why devs like crytek have abandoned it and gone to consoles. PC is only good for MMOs.

[spacecoke]

people not caring about PC gaming is a console fanboys myth. get over it, crytek did not abandon PC btw.. they have been making console AND PC games and are continuing too..... nothing has changed. they just did not briong crysis on console because it was not possible, they have to modify the engine for crysis 2 but i would bet by right leg it is going to be a lot better on PC.. hopefrully.. cos crysis 1 was nothing special as a game.

[fenix1300]

I would really love to see DMM optimized for the PS3.

[hardkoregamer1981]

kevchangu don't troll because ps3 isn't a weak gaming platform and has plenty of impressive games already and more on the way so don't sell ps3 short.

[gold5225]

Those guns were pretty sweet looking

and the physics was incredible.

[megaearplugger]

PS3 actually owns every other console on the market and all you fucking idiots that want to reply and say: Xbox360 is better - STFU!!!

[kevchangu]

ur right

[hardkoregamer1981]

gearscombatant1 stop the trolling bs and grow the hell up.great games aren't always about having the most realists visuals it's also about art direction,gameplay,audio,playa­bility,entertainment value and personal preference.if you wanna get technical the cell processor can do more then calculate physics it also functions as as a stand alone gpu without the assistance of an actual gpu or work with gpu in various way so don't sell it short.

[neonlight45]

You people need to stop saying that consoles are bad and outdated. I get you can upgrade a PC and all but there are still some amazing games on consoles that you PC gamers who don't have consolses would like to play

[nimer371]

ps3 pwns period.

[GEARSCOMBATANT1]

Both consoles are extremely bottlenecked by their lack of ram alone, besides the fact they're both using CHOPPED DOWN versions of GPU's that were released 5 years ago....

[zweg2]

Which is why PC > Consoles.

Consoles are fucking outdated now, and developers are hard pressed to develop good looking games on them now that'll rival most modern PC games.

[DarthQball]

thats why there's infamous, god of war 3, killzone 2, uncharted 2, demon's souls, final fantasy 13, final fantasy versus 13, mag, heavy rain, and ect. they sure are hard press idiot.

[gizmo2084]

What is this game Demon's Souls I keep hearing about? O.o

[steffen60]

an RPG for PS3, only released in Japan at the moment...

will come to US this fall

people say its quite good

there's plenty of Gameplay videos

[astroman12349384]

I have it, I bought it on the china town (yes there is a japanese store in NY at China town lol) Devils Seed, its a great game.

[PSNBloodraid]

Demon's Soul's is an RPG game for the PS3. It's really difficult to explain it, so just look up some videos of it [It's been out in Japan since February]

Think oblivion, but more realistic and linear.

[zweg2]

All of those look shitty compared to Crysis, old sport.

[FoShoryuken]

You complete and utter spastic. Of course crysis looks better but only because of the resolutions, because it is an actual GAME. This is something the physics developers made to just display the actual PHYSICS.

[zweg2]

Well, no shit little fella.

[432333]

i prefer the euphoria physics

[AbovePerfect]

yeah, me too. but the problem with euphoria is that it's heavy and needs a lot of processing power. SDK is lighter and, therefore, faster.

[AlisherUA]

Euphoria is animation engine by Natural Motion

[TheMoD1234]

Wheee Looks Awesome

[aaronaton]

This is great, its making use of the SPU's instead of the RSX. A first for physics, this is how physics calculations are done in Maya & 3dsmax. Cant wait for a geomod style FPS with decent graphics!!!

[spacecoke]

whats so impressive about this? : / looks like atandard physiscs that we been seeing for years... is this sony hyping up old stuff to make it seem new again? lol

[yellowfellow]

in the interview the guy already said that its done quite often

but this seem to be at a higher scale then most if not all games with physics

there was well over 100 different objects with physical properties

a lot of developers are scared to put it into their games because they're afraid that it will take up too much power

this is going to help optimize their time and hopefully allow them to be more creative with their work

[SkullsAndCandy]

lol they torturing it Dx

[WhiteKnighT161]

Buying Ps3 when 3D hardware is finally installed and buy a new 3DTV both will be awesome!! maybe on 2011 or 2012. I'm still stuck with 360 though.

[pubtor]

stop abusing the dummy!

[Harimakum]

poor dummy D=

[supercomputadora]

nice

[katuroo]

those physics are highly inaccurate - and at most, the rope only had a "dangle effect" - how about the "person" was he made of basil wood?! too much floating.

[3PeNcEL]

developers can then take this and improve it

[abkleo]

If u can do a better job... post it and show it to all of us.

anyway, that's a ragdoll model.and all ragdoll physics are similar.

[gabe0083]

if it is a pain to program games with it, just like everything else involving the ps3, then most companies will just stick w/havok

[PSIAce]

Its not a "pain" to program on the PS3, you just need to learn the architecture because its pretty unique.

[Onibaku2006]

Uncharted 1/2, Motorstorm 1/2, inFamous, GoW3, and other games have development time of 2/3years. And are WAY more polished than every xbox game. sorry.

But yeah, this physics engine sux. Physics in GPU are better, PhysiX, Havok, etc..

[logg0n]

MEH

[server4uorg]

id like a racing game wwhere u'd actually start aquaplaning in wet weather, or realistic boating :P

[tjaldid]

It would be cool to be able to destroy buildings instead of aiming a bazooka at it fire and nothing happens

[tjaldid]

This is (i think) what it does

[tjaldid]

0:42

[iScReWFaCe]

that is why PS3 is better than shitbox360

[jayfulf]

go look at project natal shit stain

[pieterll]

Natal=Eyetoy

[Vik13vik]

Nothing new about this...

[IDameaux9I]

this looks fantastic. that must be the unreal engine they used there? im quite impressed!

[poon]

They are using the weapon models and gui from Unreal Tournament 3 in that demo. Also, when they shoot at the columns, it looked like fake DMM. Like if those columns were already cut

[WhiteKnighT161]

uh-oh watch out microsoft, sony is getting better with their playstation 3 including the graphics are getting better, too bad though ps3 does not entirely focused on gaming which is a problem. Xbox 360 on the other hand does. But soon enough ps3 will have the best graphics out there. btw I have RROD xbox 360 yay! !!!! as much as I hate M$ I'm still buying a new 360 just for awesome games and xbox live. Buying later ps3 :D

[TimUK90]

Meh its only more efficiant for you to get a Xbox360 anyways, though yarp I brought up a fantastic point yesterday to my work mates about the PS3 and its new capabilities of actually doing something new and improved.

Err, the first xbox was just a design flaw, it wouldn't be a Microsoft product if it didn't, Lol.

But ye, xbox is going to have some competition soon.

[GEARSCOMBATANT1]

I also have to note that these physics are pretty bunk...

This is nothing you havent been seeing in games for the past few years...

Half Life 2 from 2k4 has better physics...

[GEARSCOMBATANT1]

There is no "inner power of the PS3"... The Cell processor is already very outdated by a current gen Phenom II Tri-Core CPU, and there's better CPU's than that...

Not to mention the PS3 is using an old chopped down 7800GTX, which is already 4 generations old, and can hardly be considered a gaming card anymore...

At least you're not running any current games with one....

Any "advances" you'll see/have been seeing, are from optimization, not from "TEH POWAH OF TEH CELL"...

[Wiimaniac]

The problem with your comment is that you're talking about the PS3 like if it was a computer.

Outdated graphic card? WTF? Outdated CPU? Are you fuking nuts?

And the last part of your comment was the most retarded of all. It doesn't even make sense... That's what happens when you talk about things you know sh1t about. I know that that I know more about the PS3 hardware than you so, you can ask me. I'm making a bachelor's degree in Computer Science and that's a plus. My English's kinda bad BTW

[GEARSCOMBATANT1]

I dont care WHAT you think you know about the PS3, I know that it has very outdated hardware...

Both consoles are holding back PC games because of their ancient hardware....

Of course I'm talking about it like it's a PC, because it is... The set hardware in the console/PC, as it becomes older, it becomes a larger bottleneck when trying to develop new more advanced games... What you see on the consoles now, is about as good as it's gonna get...

[kittehLORDZ]

lol PC been have sdk :D

[Riotaru]

I wanna see the game applications :D

[ezuan88]

it has been lots of video about ps3 nowdays showing the capabilities ,, i think they have managed to unlock the inner power of ps3 ... ..!!! yeah !!!

[p3rzs4]

metal

[Zonde32]

alot of ps3 stuff :O

[whitestar111]

ya thats because ps3 is awesome and they know it :)

[Zonde32]

yea my ps3 is a launch model working greatly.

[whitestar111]

ya mine is to 40 gig 1 with a 500 gig hd