so you're telling me in the 1930s when Joseph Stalin proposed his second 5 year technological plans and economical plans that were depression busters, witch included finally putting a man in space originally planned in the 1930s, we were already planning that???? i highly doubt that we were planning that, we were barely even organizing the civilian conservation corps, and the Tennessee valley authority, and the rural electrification administration? how is that???
@thrtrtyr You said: " In all reality we did not give a fuck about space until sputnik 1". USA had announced that it planned to launch some satellites during the International Geophysical Year 1956-57. It even announced on what wavelenghts the satellites would transmitt. The satellites were to be launched by the civilian Vanguard rocket. When it failed (after Sputnik), von Brauns group got the task with their Juno II rocket, based on the military Redstone and their Explorer satellite.
@thrtrtyr Von Brauns group wanted to launch a satellite before USSR had launched Sputnik 1, but the government didn't let them do it, because the rocket was a military one. The Eisenhower staff wanted the first American satellite launched by a civilian rocket (the Vanguard). Von Braun launched a Juno I (not Juno II as I mistaklingly wrote down here) with a dummy as the top stage in 1956. If he had been allowed to use a real rocket instead of the dummy, it had been the first satellite.
why is every single confederate degenerate on here getting mad that the USSR got to space first. all our space projects in the 60s were derivative from the Russians. In all reality we did not give a fuck about space until sputnik 1. Because we saw the Russians making technological advances and we thought they were gunna spy on us but in reality they weren't. just be fucking proud that we (HUMANS) got up there, if the Russians did not test the waters no one would of.
@thrtrtyr Actually, USA had planned to launch some small satellites, even before USSR launched Sputnik 1. And, at least the Air Force had plans to send some men out in Earth orbit.
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even if it was a hoax, it was 50 years ago. its not gona make a difforance now if someone found proof that it was a hoax. its not like the world is gona riot over it.
I like how everyone gets upset about the soviets being first ones to perform a space walk. How about instead of thinking of this event as one that only benefited the Russians, think of it as an event that benefited all of humanity
FIRST ROCKET LAUNCH Goes to United States march 16, 1926 Robert H. Goddard launch first liquid fueled rocket . His work was published in popular science magazine that where the germans and the russians learned from his work . So UNITED STATES WAS THE FIRST AND THE LAST!
@arthaskiller lets look at history who was the first to actually launch a rocket was it russia ummm NO NO NO ! it was Robert H. Goddard he launched the first liquid fueled rocket March 16, 1926 his work was published in the popular science magazine in the 20s and 30s thats where the germans learned about it. and germans helped the russians build a rocket . so first rocket : United States !
@ModelTXInfAmY Ummm, no, while that's convienent for you to believe, if you look at actual empirical data involving the numbers of missions and the general success of them, you will see that America did in fact have more sucessful missions while the soviets had more "firsts". Ask any intelligent astronomy professor and they will agree with me. However it's more convenient for you to subscribe to some silly political agenda, so I won't bother arguing with facts and reason.
@Grapist217 I take this from SelfHatinWhite's comment as it is quite relevant.
The USSR was the first country to launch a satellite into space and transfer data to and from it, a technological accomplishment that enabled the construction of the modern data-transfer infrastructure as well as the ability to more accurately observe global climate and weather patterns. The United States put a guy on the moon and had him hit a golf ball to show people that the gravity there was all fucked up.
@Grapist217 i agree, it should have been a world effort but the constant pissing match and dick comparisons between the soviet union and the US got in the way
Yuri Gagarin First in Space opened the door for Humanity to advance and Prosper! landing on the moon took 8 years later... And what?! By that time USSR already space walked, and build a space shuttle, they were also the first ones to launch a satellite and a lander that landed on the moon... Opening the door is Hard... following the steps is not!!!
@nukeurhouse12 What do mean with "USSR already built a spaceshuttle" when USA landed on Moon? A "shuttle" is something that goes back and forth several times. USA built and flew one for years. USSR built one and launched it once, unmanned. After USA.
And yes, USSR was first to make a spacewalk, but at the time for Apollo, USA had done more spacewalks.
@arthaskiller Everythin Sovet-related you've mentioned is simply launching stuff into Earth's orbit. Launching a monkey or a human, or just a can with batteries is not very different.
United States managed to send six successful manned missions to the Moon. Six times they left the Earth's orbit, entered the Moon's orbit, descended to its surface, performed numerous lengthy EVAs, launched back to its orbit and went back to Earth.
@endimion17 USA didn't win the "space race". They won the "lunar landing race". Because, a lunar landing was not an ultimate, final goal for all space activities.
@YDDES Actually, the "Space race" ended with the Moon landing. There was further progress, I agree, but the race itself came to a halt. The Moon landing was an emotional and political nail in the coffin. Ask any historian, that's a fact.
@endimion17 The Moon landing was only a part of the "space race". USSR won the race to put a man in space. to hit Moon with a probe and several other things. If USSR hadn't collapsed, there had been a race to Mars. So, You can't say USA "won the space race" just because they were first with men on Moon.
@YDDES And if people had eyes on their backs, they could see what's going on behind them without turning around.
The Space race's goal was to put a man on the Moon. Kennedy's speech, remember? After it was over, the Soviets were defeated, and the Apollo program continued until A-17 and then halted. Space shuttle program began, which was not a part of the Space race.
The Soviet union dissolved long after that and is not connected directly to this.
@endimion17 To say that USA won the"Space race" because they won the race to Moon, is like saying Ferrari won the "Car race" because the won F1 Grand Prix. the Moon landings were just a part of the conquer of the space, just like the F1 Grand Prix is just a part of car races.
There actually was a race to get the first man in space, and USSR won that part.
@YDDES It only depends on your definition of Space race. But the prevailing historical opinion is that is ended with the Moon landing.
Using your logic, the Cold war is still in progress because USA and Russia never destroyed all of their weapons of mass destruction. But it isn't. It's officially over.
@endimion17 It's more like saying Nigeria won the Olympics because they won the 10,000 meter run. I insist that the race to launch the first satellite, the first moon probe, the first man and some other "firsts" were won by USSR. USA won the race to Moon.
I'm sure that USSR considered it as a "race" to put the first man in space. Also, to launch the first multi person spaceship. That's why the crammed three man into a one man "Vostok" and called it "Voshkod" before USA launched their "Gemini".
@YDDES "Voshkod1" was a pure propaganda mission, a Vostok with 3 seats and nothing else. As soon as USA announced Gemini with 2 astronauts on board, URSS decided to send 3 cosmonauts in space just to keep "supremacy". Well... by Gemini USA developed docking manouvre in space, while the 3 russian cosmonauts (the thinner of the group and crammed on board without spacesuits !!!) did nothing but see space from porthole.... but yes: URSS has been the first to launch a multi person spaceship :-))
@goodyears73 Yes "Voshkod" was a propaganda project, just as "Apollo". Remember what Kennedy asked his advisors after Soviet sent the first man out in space? "What can we do in space before Soviet does it? Build a spacestation? Send a man to the moon? Or what?"
So yes, both nations used spacetprojects as propaganda to try to show the world they were second to none.
Some things were done first by Soviet, some by USA.
@YDDES some space projects were just propaganda, others were more effective ...put the 3 thinnest cosmonaut in spaceship originally built for one just to send in space 3 men before your competitor belongs to propaganda...
@goodyears73 Project "Score", sending an Atlas missile out in orbit with the sole payioad of a taperecorder playing a "Christmas messag" from president Eisenhover was an even clearer propaganda...
You can't say one nation did more propaganda stunts than the other.
@YDDES I remenber S.C.O.R.E was the first communicaton satellite... probably they had two messages: one from president of United States and the second from Mickey Mouse ..strangely they chose president one
@Enysvar Yes. First satellite. First animal in orbit. First human in orbit. First probe to the surface of Moon. First probe around Moon with first photos of the far side. First probe to the surface of Venus.
So, USSR was in no way behind USA in space exploration. The "big miss" was the lunar landing.
@YDDES russian technology level was behind USA, despite their several "firsts". There were no big secrets about Nasa works (and schedules) and russians always tried to copy and replicate american projects without success... USSR was not able to built a rocket as Saturn V and put in orbit the paylod to send men on the moon and back, they hadn't experience in orbital rendez vous ...it was not just a simple "miss"... it was a failure....lunar missions were simply too big for sovs space industry
@goodyears73 Russian rockets were MUCH bigger and more powerful at the beginning of the space age. What ultimately will surface in rocket technology no one knows. It isn't over yet. So, yes, Saturn V was the biggest rocket ever built up to then, but maybe not thru the whole history of spacetravelling ?
USSR used an airlock system for their first EVA. USA emptied the whole spaceship of air. What system is used today?
@YDDES at the beginning ? Beginning of space age comprises Saturn V too ! Russian N1 was more powerful than Saturn V but with less payload because of its bigger weight and poor propellent (talking abt technology) ... anyway all N1 miserabily crashed and exploded....in the future who know.
Do you know why all russian rockets got multiple engines instead of big one ? Do you know URSS was not able to produce special steel to have a single big nozzle for their rockets ?
@goodyears73 I mean the very beginning of satellites and deep space probes. Up to Saturn I, USSR had the biggest rockets. Compare Vanguard and Explorer to Sputnik 1, 2 and 3...
Do You understand the complexity in term of technology to mount an airlock on such a small spaceship?
USSR often (but not always) had more innovative solutions than USA.
I just want to state that USA didn't win any "space race", just the "race" to Moon.
@YDDES I reply as we are discussing in a polite way and it's rare on youtube.
Russian are used to find simple solutions, practical and sound: sometimes such ideas are innovative too as they show a new way.
For what concern airlock, Gemini was an airlock itself ..dangerous if something goes wrong (you can't back on earth on an open capsule) but the US technology afforded the risk ...Urss was not able, so they simply mounted an external airlock ...poor but quickly solution...good to arrive first
@YDDES nowadys spaceships are huge...of course you cannot empty the whole space spation or shuttle for a spacewalk but back to the time of small Voshod 2 and Gemini: russian mounted a complicated and external system on the hull of Voshod (so narrow that Leonov had problem to back in the capsule) while americans were so confident to built all Gemini series with a big opening hatch as a convertible car. Do you understand the difference in term of technology and reliabilty of materials needed ?
Svara på det här videoklippet... I don't say USSR was any better than USA, or vice versa. Each nation was more successfull than the other in different disciplines. One can't say one was a "winner" and one a "loser", looking at the whole space exploring history.
@YDDES Just to stop our long and useful discussion: I never talked abt "winner" and "loser" of space race ..only abt differnce in technology level in 60-70 ...I got huge respect for russian engineers: they made miracles considering what they had, especially for manned missions.
@Enysvar I suggest you to get deeper into subject...space exploration is far more to be the first to do something. We are talking of science and technology and "how" you succeed counts too
Abouts spacewalk...USA did it just a couple of months later and imho it's more important to compare how russian and american solved the problem to let an astronaut get out of spaceship, depressurization/pressurization system, feasibilty of the solution... read about it and let me know
Well, the United States caught up with the Russians, see, we put a man on the moon, but the Russians didnt, see the Russians may have been first to put a man in space, and all that, we did those too. Well, we also have firsts in our own rides too, First Rendevous of 2 vehicles on Gemini 6 and 7, and on Gamini 8, the first docking, we have also kept men in space longer.
@arthaskiller First to 10 meters - Guy A First to 20 meters - Guy A First to 30 meters - Guy A First to 40 meters - Guy A First to 50 meters - Guy A First to 60 meters - Guy A First to 70 meters - Guy A First to 80 meters - Guy A First to 90 meters - Guy A First to 100 meters - Guy B Who gets the gold medal?
@YDDES ah okay, a missunderstanding, I thought the first Human being on Moon. Sorry. Yes you're right thats a bit unfair when the Americans win the space race. just because they were on the moon as a first. Only sad that begins the space time at the cold war. Imagine the two systems worked together and make together a spaceship who lands on the moon. Thats would so damn great
@Spore1147 Yes, if fundings had been available, USA, Russia and some other countries could have gone to Mars together. But, that will not happen. Not in our lifetime, anyhow...
@BBMSergey Sorry man..what hell of "first" is a woman in space ? If you have a rocket and a space capsule does it make any difference if you put in orbit a man, a woman or the same weight of crap ?
For what concern Mars..very good for URSS to be the first to send a wreck on its surface... no sorry I'm wrong ..Mars3 send data for 20 seconds ...Viking 1 mission arrived 3 ys later but he send 100 times photos and information alone than entire URSS program ...anyway be proud to be the first ! :-))
@BBMSergey You are right for long period in space. Valentina Tereschkova mission was short...so nothing different or better or new compared to previous male cosmonauts space flights.
Politburo decided USSR to be the first to send a woman in space, so they did it: find a woman in good fit, teach her how to use parachute, put her on top of a rocket in an automatic space capsule, if she back alive from space announce to the world USSR did it, applause.
@goodyears73 All early manned space journeys were made to test how humans could survive and work with different things. None was made for propaganda purpose only, but both USSR and USA used them for propaganda too.
Valentina Tereschkova already was a trained parachute jumper when she was asked if she wanted to train to be a cosmonaut.
The Mercury capsules also were fully automatic. If everything functioned as planned (which it seldom did), the astronaut didn't have to do anything.
@YDDES She was already trained as parachute jumper ? Good..the most of training to be a vostok cosmonaut was already done.:-)) For yankees was easier: they landed into spacecraft.
Ofc I'm joking ...anyway I repeat my point: among several russian "firsts", first woman in space has been the most useless and ineffective in terms of real technology progress ...russian sent another woman in space 20 ys later and first american female astronaut flew on space shuttle.
@goodyears73 One important reason only one woman did a spaceflight during the first 20 years, is that both USA and USSR selected their astronauts among military test pilots. Not very many women in that profession. Not even today...
Today scientists can become astronauts without being able to pilot military aircraft.
@goodyears73 watch apollo 13 and see if training for space flights is about just learning how to use a parachute. it was something never done before, no one knew what could go wrong and cosmonauts/astronauts were supposed to know the ship, be ready to make critical decisions in no time and withstand any kind of psychological stress.
Gagarin jumped out of his landing module because it was considered safer until the module was tested several times. he could have stayed in the capsule instead.
@aleclitvinov As far as I've "heard", all Vostok astronauts ejected from their capsules because the ship made a quite hard landing. The modified Vostoks renamed Voshkod, had no ejection seats, but retrorockets in their parachute cords, firing a few feet above ground, lessening the impact.
@arthaskiller The Soviet Union had a lot of firsts, but in the long run the United States preformed more missions and the missions they did were generally more successful than the soviet counterparts. I find it a common misconception that people believe the soviets "won" the space race.
@Grapist217 Looks like you're just another american Ultra Nationalist trying to rationalize what a huge step in scientific discovery a lot of this was. If the Soviet Union hadn't done all of these things first it would not have pushed the Americans so hard to try and beat the Soviets and who know the United States may not have been the first to walk on the moon. If you think about it, we could be living in a place where man had not even been into space yet.
@Grapist217 So yes Americans may have been on the moon first but as much as you argue about it the Soviets won the Space Race and maybe they didn't do everything as good as the Americans or had as many flights into space as the Americans but they won it.
@ModelTXInfAmY As far as I know, the finish line for the space race was being able to have humans land on moon. The Americans did it. Buzz Aldrin said that he and his mate Neil Armstrong were the first humans to set foot on lunar soil. It just happened to be americans. The Americans won it.
@jtownshend There was no "finish line" in the "space race". It was not obvious that USA should send men to Moon. JFK asked his space advisors to do something spectacular that USSR hadn't already done. For example build a space station or put a man on Moon.
It was considered more easy to go to Moon, so USA settled for that option.
If USSR hadn't collapsed, the race had continued. For Mars.
Are you kidding me? Please be kidding, first of all, that is less of the tax payers dollars, and second, if we were to get into a race against them over heavy lifting capability, witch is all but putting up a space station, we would of lost the race, the Apollo program is 10 to 20 billion dollars, alot of cash, and its alot easier to put a big labratory on top of a rocket and just carry it up into space, but going to the moon.....
Requires you to figure out the flight path, the maneuvers to get into orbit, how to land and get back home in one piece, space station, oh, wel you just get up there, eat a couple of donuts, and come back home.
Totally bro, we kept men in space longer, achieved the first ever orbital rendevous and first docking, oh sure, the soviets did all those firsts, but you see, we did those things too, first man in space: Soviet Union, we did that too, first EVA in space(space walk), we did that first, first man on the moon: US. oh hell no, they never put a man on the moon.
Generally in a race whoever crosses the finish line first is the winner And when you consider that the finish line was the Moon I'd say the US won the Space Race
@ThatAdelaideGuy You can choose any "finish line" You please. USSR crossed the "finish lines" regarding artifical satellites, lunar probes, manned spacetravel and EVA's first. USA crossed the "finish line" regarding manned lunar landings first. To think all space exploration only aimed to be the first to land a man on Moon, is ignorant and uneducated.
Agreed bro, like the soviets were the first to launch a satellite, well, we did that too, first to put a man into space: Soviet Union, but we did that too, first space walk: soviet union, we did that too, kept men in space longer: United States, nope, soviets never did that, first man on the moon: United States, Soviets never did that, we also have firsts, like first docking in space and first rendevous. Yeah, the US won.
@awey271 Nope. First docking was indeed the Soviet Union. First to orbit the moon was the SU aswell. 50,000 feet above the moon I know nothing about, but since 30,000 feet is standard for planes to fly above tellus, I guess the Soviets were first there. The Soviet Union never destroyed any evidence from the Space Race, don't know where you got that from. Sure, Luna crashed. The Americans failed to launch their first 7 manned expedition, The Soviets crashed an object. Thanks for mentioning that.
Oh, cool, well, since you said that the soviets did the first docking, well, your wrong, in Gemini 8, Neil Armstrong and Dave Scott performed the first ever docking with the Agena, also, the soviets havent ever gotten close to the moon, so, lemme go through this again
First to orbit the moon: US
First to perform a docking: US
First 2 man space walk: US
First to put a man on the moon: US
First to fly 50,000 feet above the moon: US on Apollo 10 with Gene Cernan and Tom Stafford
@awey271 dumbass first orbit to the moon = Russia (Luna 10) first satellite = Russia (Sputnik) first man in space = Russia (Gagarin) first woman in space = Russia (Tereshkova) first animal in space = Russia (Laika) first space station = Russia (MIR) first space walk = Russia (Leonov) first vehicle on the Moon = Russia (Luna 1) first vehicle on the Venus = Russia (Venera 1) U.s space programm is a joke compared to Russian. And Russia has indisputably won the space race!!!
Oh, and the Russians lost 2 astronauts in the Soyuz missions, we were pro on Apollo 13, at least we can solve problems and not fail launching rockets, like your stupid Russian N1 moon rockets that failed
@awey271 Wrong. the Russians lost 1 cosmonaut in Soyuz 1 and 3 cosmonauts in Soyuz 11. USA lost 7 astronauts in Challenger and 7 astronauts in Columbia.
@awey271 Not the race to Moon, but the Shuttles were part of the race to build space stations and ultimately be the first on Mars. A race that vanished with the demise of USSR.
@awey271 There was still a"race" going on when Soviet collapsed. The Salyut stations (and first even MIR) actually were prototypes for a manned Mars ship. One reason for the long stays in orbit was to test if a human could live and work in space conditions long enough to make a round trip to Mars.
You can't say one part "won the space race". USA won the race to Moon, yes. But USSR won the race to put a satellite and a man in space and to put an artificial object on Moon. Among some other things.
Besides, we would still beat the Russian to Mars, cause we proved that precise touchdown was possible, we figure out how to enter trans lunar injection, and we can also built suits designed for walking on another surface to protect a man from the harsh conditions of outer space
@awey271 Soviet was first to land a spaceprobe on Venus. USA has not done that. Actually, I think this "who won the space race" is silly. It's like asking:"Who won the car race" comparing the Monaco Grand Prix to the Le Mans, The Nascar and so on. If one is asking "who won", every bit must be judged to itself.
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@awey271 There's nothing "stupid" about unmanned missions. Without them, there would have been no manned. And, we have learned MUCH more about the solar system and the universe thanks to the unmanned, than to the manned missions.
You are correct, but you see, if it werent for manned missions we wouldnt have found out where the moon came from, or found orange soil there, like on luna missions, unmanned, they just scooped some stuff out, manned missions are more effective
@awey271 Like if the moon actually mattered. We still don't know if it's true, considering how evidence shows otherwise. There was absolutely nothing on the moon that had any value, so don't go care your little head about that.
Dude, the moon landing is true, they put reflectors on the Apollo 15 landing sight, and we shined a laser towards it and we got a response, and it is not from the moons reflection. Also, on the Apollo 11 landing, if it was faked, then how come there were so many malfunctions. There would be no way we would find a way to fake that. And i dont want to start a fight, so, you know, and also, the moon matters cause we are running out of fossil fuels, and the moon may have helium 3.
@awey271 Helium 3 is obsolete, compared to everything else we demand on earth. We still can't find the flag the Americans supposedly placed there, and whilst NASA claimed they brought no artificial lightning, the shadows are shown coming from every direction.
So anyway, the shadows are shown coming from every direction cause the moon reflects tons of sunlight. Also, you cant just look up and see an american flag placed there. They also brought back lunar samples with Helium 3 inside of it, so basically, it is proof that we have been to the moon, yo cant just take a random rock from earth and paint it and expect to find HE3 inside of it, thats stupid.
@arthaskiller - What do you mean we still can't find the flag? They were never lost :-) They're still exactly where the Apollo astronauts left them from 1969-1972. The evidence for man landing on the moon is overwhelming, and after years of seeing ALL the hoax claims made, none of them hold up to scrutiny (none, zero, zilch). Also, don't you find it strange that hoax documentaries claim the footage was faked using wires and slow motion, and yet none of them actually SHOW us how it was done?
@MTMind2 No, that's the thing. The flags have never been seen after the landing, despite having looked all over the moon for them. And there's a documentary showing the moon walking in fast motion, making it look as if they did it on earth. There's no hard evidence for the moon landing.
@arthaskiller - That's nonsense my friend. The flags can't be seen because they're too small, however photos of the landing sites have been taken showing the lander, rover, equipment and even tracks, for example;
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As for fast motion. Dust kicked up by astronauts and rovers are PERFECT for the moon's gravity (& NO atmosphere), so to match earth's gravity, ALL film needs to be sped up 2.46 times. NONE of docs do that because the result would be like this;
@MTMind2 We have equipment to zoom so much in on the moon we'd almost be able to spot your brain. A flag or an object to the liking would be easy to see - had it been there. Also, thanks for the sped-up video. Since we have now determined the moon landing is indeed faked (as your lower video shows), maybe we can clear up other things the American government has "managed".
@arthaskiller - Why resort to childish insults? Just stick to the discussion please. It's was perfectly clear from the video that the resolution was just enough to see the equipment but a flag, especially from above (or do you think they laid the flags flat on the surface before leaving?). And my sped up video proves 2.46x doesn't work, the limb movements are too fast and hence unrealistic, but nice try. So now that those claims of yours have been debunked, tell me about your shadows again.
@MTMind2 We have this amazing invention called a Rover or whatever, a vehicle that takes photos on the moon or Mars. We have estimated it has been around the entire moon area twice and they still haven't found anything. The limbs move a bit fast, yes, but that's because the video is far too much sped up. Everybody knows this, even you. Look at any picture of the moon and you'll find the shadows are off.
@arthaskiller - Again you prove you have no idea what you're talking about. There are no active rovers on the moon today. The only rovers have been those from the USSR in the early 70s, Lunokhod 1 & 2, which covered a tiny area before failing. The shadows claim comes from those who are a) ignorant about perfective, and/or b) assume the lunar surface is flat. The following vids covers that so-called issue;
@arthaskiller - I see you admit the limbs move too fast, but say the video is sped up too much. With that comment you prove my point!
The dust seen in ALL Apollo footage is PERFECT for the moon's gravity (1/6th earth's). On earth, everything would fall 2.46x quicker (square root of 6), and so to match earth's gravity the film MUST be sped up by 2.46x, not slower, not faster, but by 2.46x. Once done, thrown up dust and objects matches earth's gravity, but the astronaut's limbs look wrong.
@arthaskiller "We have this amazing invention called a Rover or whatever, a vehicle that takes photos on the moon or Mars"... You don't even know yourself if You are talking about Moon or Mars... And You clearly know NOTHING about this "Rover". So, do You really feel qualified to discuss this matter? To suggest that You know better than all the scientists around the world, who for +40 years have known that man landed on Moon 1969-72?
@arthaskiller - [Correction..."but NOT a flag"]. And do explain why you feel seeing the Apollo landers, rovers, tracks, and various equipment on the moon's surface is less important that seeing a flag from above? And again I ask, where's the reconstruction of the Apollo footage if it only requires slow motion and wires? We see ALL major magic tricks revealled on TV, we see ALL movie special effects revealed, yet in 4 decades no-one has been able to recreate the Apollo footage using 60s/70s tech.
@arthaskiller "We have equipment to zoom so much in on the moon we'd almost be able to spot your brain. A flag or an object to the liking would be easy to see - had it been there." Please show me to a source where this equipment is described. Or did You just invent it?
@awey271 Oh wow. They didn't just send out one man, they sent out two. I guess that's twice as hard... Might as well follow up: First to take a shit in space: Soviet Union. First to eat in space: Soviet Union. First to talk in space: Soviet union. First to breathe in space: Soviet Union. First to see in space: Soviet Union. First to think in space: Soviet Union. Know what I'm getting at?
The way I look at it, it doesn't matter if you American, Russian, Chinese, etc. what ever you achieve for your country is also an achievement for humanity and I think we forget that sometimes.
first artificial satellite,first russian animal in space,first russian man in space ,first russian woman in space, first russian space walk,first soviet SPACE STATION IN SPACE!!! Who says that the space race have lost we. Will have to spend hours and hours on the books of history to study. AND Moon sucks, it was not even true journey! American liars, for profit, to show himself strong in making movies in Hollywood!!
@GravityPowerful yep u r right 100%, and the same about II world war: the russians did it mostly, not americans
So what went wrong with USSR?, mm* i think mostly nothing since they was starting from czar medioeval feudal system in 1920s, they have a lot of potential to grow up in the future
I have an OCD about things coming undone at certain points. I wouldn't be able to do this because I would want to see how long I could tug on my helment until it comes off.
@glory777 No they didn't. Yuri Gagarin claimed he could see the Earth through a space craft with no windows. Check out the Vostok hoax. It was poorly executed.
@yesiamawizardjonny "Freedom 7" didn't have a window either. Al Shepard had a periscope to see the earth and identify landmarks. I'm only assuming Gagarin's did too. But I've never read about the Vostok hoax. Sounds interesting, can you point me to sites that talk about it?
@glory777 You might have to google it. If you go to "hunchbacked" after the youtube url, he has a website listed on the left side of his channel. Go there and look for the Gagarin hoax, it's easy to find.
@yesiamawizardjonny-OH MY GOD....STOP WHORING UP SPACE VIDEOS AND JUST LET PEOPLE WATCH THEM!!! YOU'VE ANNOYED ENOUGH PEOPLE BY TALKING ABOUT THE MOON LANDING HOAX!!!
so you're telling me in the 1930s when Joseph Stalin proposed his second 5 year technological plans and economical plans that were depression busters, witch included finally putting a man in space originally planned in the 1930s, we were already planning that???? i highly doubt that we were planning that, we were barely even organizing the civilian conservation corps, and the Tennessee valley authority, and the rural electrification administration? how is that???
thrtrtyr 1 week ago
@thrtrtyr You said: " In all reality we did not give a fuck about space until sputnik 1". USA had announced that it planned to launch some satellites during the International Geophysical Year 1956-57. It even announced on what wavelenghts the satellites would transmitt. The satellites were to be launched by the civilian Vanguard rocket. When it failed (after Sputnik), von Brauns group got the task with their Juno II rocket, based on the military Redstone and their Explorer satellite.
YDDES 2 days ago
@thrtrtyr Von Brauns group wanted to launch a satellite before USSR had launched Sputnik 1, but the government didn't let them do it, because the rocket was a military one. The Eisenhower staff wanted the first American satellite launched by a civilian rocket (the Vanguard). Von Braun launched a Juno I (not Juno II as I mistaklingly wrote down here) with a dummy as the top stage in 1956. If he had been allowed to use a real rocket instead of the dummy, it had been the first satellite.
YDDES 2 days ago
"It is a extraordinary sensation, I have never feel ... before. I was free above the planet Earth..." ¿what say after that? Please...
angelojpb3 2 weeks ago
why is every single confederate degenerate on here getting mad that the USSR got to space first. all our space projects in the 60s were derivative from the Russians. In all reality we did not give a fuck about space until sputnik 1. Because we saw the Russians making technological advances and we thought they were gunna spy on us but in reality they weren't. just be fucking proud that we (HUMANS) got up there, if the Russians did not test the waters no one would of.
thrtrtyr 2 weeks ago
@thrtrtyr Actually, USA had planned to launch some small satellites, even before USSR launched Sputnik 1. And, at least the Air Force had plans to send some men out in Earth orbit.
YDDES 2 weeks ago
ed white was first not the russian
Frankeinstein127 2 months ago
@Frankeinstein127 Ignorant or "joking"? Not even funny, I'm afraid.
YDDES 2 months ago
@Frankeinstein127
No, good try though, Leonov was the first to do the space walk, Ed White was the second space walker, but he was out more than Leonov, but good try.
awey271 1 month ago
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aczjbr 3 months ago
this should count as the first poem in space
XxmothershipzetaxX 3 months ago
even if it was a hoax, it was 50 years ago. its not gona make a difforance now if someone found proof that it was a hoax. its not like the world is gona riot over it.
cbradley1391 3 months ago
I like how everyone gets upset about the soviets being first ones to perform a space walk. How about instead of thinking of this event as one that only benefited the Russians, think of it as an event that benefited all of humanity
EODsplosion 3 months ago
FIRST ROCKET LAUNCH Goes to United States march 16, 1926 Robert H. Goddard launch first liquid fueled rocket . His work was published in popular science magazine that where the germans and the russians learned from his work . So UNITED STATES WAS THE FIRST AND THE LAST!
saint27573 3 months ago
@saint27573 Not FIRST rocket launch. Only first LIQUID FUELED rocket launch. And the last rocket has hopefully not been launched yet...
Rockets had been used for centuries. Both in war and peace.
YDDES 3 months ago
@arthaskiller lets look at history who was the first to actually launch a rocket was it russia ummm NO NO NO ! it was Robert H. Goddard he launched the first liquid fueled rocket March 16, 1926 his work was published in the popular science magazine in the 20s and 30s thats where the germans learned about it. and germans helped the russians build a rocket . so first rocket : United States !
saint27573 3 months ago
@ModelTXInfAmY Ummm, no, while that's convienent for you to believe, if you look at actual empirical data involving the numbers of missions and the general success of them, you will see that America did in fact have more sucessful missions while the soviets had more "firsts". Ask any intelligent astronomy professor and they will agree with me. However it's more convenient for you to subscribe to some silly political agenda, so I won't bother arguing with facts and reason.
Grapist217 3 months ago
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@Grapist217 I take this from SelfHatinWhite's comment as it is quite relevant.
The USSR was the first country to launch a satellite into space and transfer data to and from it, a technological accomplishment that enabled the construction of the modern data-transfer infrastructure as well as the ability to more accurately observe global climate and weather patterns. The United States put a guy on the moon and had him hit a golf ball to show people that the gravity there was all fucked up.
ModelTXInfAmY 3 months ago
@Grapist217 Lmao, god...
skylineiiigtr 3 months ago
add the first unmanned space rover: Lunokhod
GreyWolfSH 3 months ago
@Grapist217 i agree, it should have been a world effort but the constant pissing match and dick comparisons between the soviet union and the US got in the way
tk5800thesecond 3 months ago
Not that it matters but Pravda named Armstrong "Tsar of the Moon"
Spindry96 3 months ago
Yuri Gagarin First in Space opened the door for Humanity to advance and Prosper! landing on the moon took 8 years later... And what?! By that time USSR already space walked, and build a space shuttle, they were also the first ones to launch a satellite and a lander that landed on the moon... Opening the door is Hard... following the steps is not!!!
nukeurhouse12 4 months ago
@nukeurhouse12 What do mean with "USSR already built a spaceshuttle" when USA landed on Moon? A "shuttle" is something that goes back and forth several times. USA built and flew one for years. USSR built one and launched it once, unmanned. After USA.
And yes, USSR was first to make a spacewalk, but at the time for Apollo, USA had done more spacewalks.
YDDES 4 months ago
@YDDES sorry meant to say Space-station!
nukeurhouse12 4 months ago
First guys to send an object into space: Soviet Union
First guys to send an animal into space: Soviet Union
First guys to send a human into space: Soviet Union
First guys to return someone/something from space: Soviet Union
First guys to send a satelite into space: Soviet Union
First guys to perform a space walk: Soviet Union
First guys to walk on the moon: United States
Now, who really won the space race?
arthaskiller 4 months ago 15
@arthaskiller Everythin Sovet-related you've mentioned is simply launching stuff into Earth's orbit. Launching a monkey or a human, or just a can with batteries is not very different.
United States managed to send six successful manned missions to the Moon. Six times they left the Earth's orbit, entered the Moon's orbit, descended to its surface, performed numerous lengthy EVAs, launched back to its orbit and went back to Earth.
USA clearly won the space race.
endimion17 4 months ago
@endimion17 USA didn't win the "space race". They won the "lunar landing race". Because, a lunar landing was not an ultimate, final goal for all space activities.
YDDES 4 months ago
@YDDES Actually, the "Space race" ended with the Moon landing. There was further progress, I agree, but the race itself came to a halt. The Moon landing was an emotional and political nail in the coffin. Ask any historian, that's a fact.
endimion17 4 months ago
@endimion17 The Moon landing was only a part of the "space race". USSR won the race to put a man in space. to hit Moon with a probe and several other things. If USSR hadn't collapsed, there had been a race to Mars. So, You can't say USA "won the space race" just because they were first with men on Moon.
YDDES 4 months ago
@YDDES And if people had eyes on their backs, they could see what's going on behind them without turning around.
The Space race's goal was to put a man on the Moon. Kennedy's speech, remember? After it was over, the Soviets were defeated, and the Apollo program continued until A-17 and then halted. Space shuttle program began, which was not a part of the Space race.
The Soviet union dissolved long after that and is not connected directly to this.
endimion17 4 months ago
@endimion17 To say that USA won the"Space race" because they won the race to Moon, is like saying Ferrari won the "Car race" because the won F1 Grand Prix. the Moon landings were just a part of the conquer of the space, just like the F1 Grand Prix is just a part of car races.
There actually was a race to get the first man in space, and USSR won that part.
YDDES 4 months ago
@YDDES It only depends on your definition of Space race. But the prevailing historical opinion is that is ended with the Moon landing.
Using your logic, the Cold war is still in progress because USA and Russia never destroyed all of their weapons of mass destruction. But it isn't. It's officially over.
endimion17 4 months ago
@endimion17 It's more like saying Nigeria won the Olympics because they won the 10,000 meter run. I insist that the race to launch the first satellite, the first moon probe, the first man and some other "firsts" were won by USSR. USA won the race to Moon.
I'm sure that USSR considered it as a "race" to put the first man in space. Also, to launch the first multi person spaceship. That's why the crammed three man into a one man "Vostok" and called it "Voshkod" before USA launched their "Gemini".
YDDES 4 months ago
@YDDES "Voshkod1" was a pure propaganda mission, a Vostok with 3 seats and nothing else. As soon as USA announced Gemini with 2 astronauts on board, URSS decided to send 3 cosmonauts in space just to keep "supremacy". Well... by Gemini USA developed docking manouvre in space, while the 3 russian cosmonauts (the thinner of the group and crammed on board without spacesuits !!!) did nothing but see space from porthole.... but yes: URSS has been the first to launch a multi person spaceship :-))
goodyears73 2 months ago
@goodyears73 Yes "Voshkod" was a propaganda project, just as "Apollo". Remember what Kennedy asked his advisors after Soviet sent the first man out in space? "What can we do in space before Soviet does it? Build a spacestation? Send a man to the moon? Or what?"
So yes, both nations used spacetprojects as propaganda to try to show the world they were second to none.
Some things were done first by Soviet, some by USA.
YDDES 2 months ago
@YDDES some space projects were just propaganda, others were more effective ...put the 3 thinnest cosmonaut in spaceship originally built for one just to send in space 3 men before your competitor belongs to propaganda...
goodyears73 2 months ago
@goodyears73 Project "Score", sending an Atlas missile out in orbit with the sole payioad of a taperecorder playing a "Christmas messag" from president Eisenhover was an even clearer propaganda...
You can't say one nation did more propaganda stunts than the other.
YDDES 2 months ago
@YDDES I remenber S.C.O.R.E was the first communicaton satellite... probably they had two messages: one from president of United States and the second from Mickey Mouse ..strangely they chose president one
goodyears73 2 months ago
and yes ..for what concern space missions imho I say URSS did more propaganda stunt than USA...
goodyears73 2 months ago
@goodyears73 Well they have the right to brag since they came first. USSR all the way!
Enysvar 2 months ago
@Enysvar Yes. First satellite. First animal in orbit. First human in orbit. First probe to the surface of Moon. First probe around Moon with first photos of the far side. First probe to the surface of Venus.
So, USSR was in no way behind USA in space exploration. The "big miss" was the lunar landing.
YDDES 2 months ago
@YDDES russian technology level was behind USA, despite their several "firsts". There were no big secrets about Nasa works (and schedules) and russians always tried to copy and replicate american projects without success... USSR was not able to built a rocket as Saturn V and put in orbit the paylod to send men on the moon and back, they hadn't experience in orbital rendez vous ...it was not just a simple "miss"... it was a failure....lunar missions were simply too big for sovs space industry
goodyears73 2 months ago
@goodyears73 Russian rockets were MUCH bigger and more powerful at the beginning of the space age. What ultimately will surface in rocket technology no one knows. It isn't over yet. So, yes, Saturn V was the biggest rocket ever built up to then, but maybe not thru the whole history of spacetravelling ?
USSR used an airlock system for their first EVA. USA emptied the whole spaceship of air. What system is used today?
YDDES 2 months ago
@YDDES at the beginning ? Beginning of space age comprises Saturn V too ! Russian N1 was more powerful than Saturn V but with less payload because of its bigger weight and poor propellent (talking abt technology) ... anyway all N1 miserabily crashed and exploded....in the future who know.
Do you know why all russian rockets got multiple engines instead of big one ? Do you know URSS was not able to produce special steel to have a single big nozzle for their rockets ?
goodyears73 2 months ago
@goodyears73 I mean the very beginning of satellites and deep space probes. Up to Saturn I, USSR had the biggest rockets. Compare Vanguard and Explorer to Sputnik 1, 2 and 3...
Do You understand the complexity in term of technology to mount an airlock on such a small spaceship?
USSR often (but not always) had more innovative solutions than USA.
I just want to state that USA didn't win any "space race", just the "race" to Moon.
YDDES 2 months ago
@YDDES I reply as we are discussing in a polite way and it's rare on youtube.
Russian are used to find simple solutions, practical and sound: sometimes such ideas are innovative too as they show a new way.
For what concern airlock, Gemini was an airlock itself ..dangerous if something goes wrong (you can't back on earth on an open capsule) but the US technology afforded the risk ...Urss was not able, so they simply mounted an external airlock ...poor but quickly solution...good to arrive first
goodyears73 2 months ago
@YDDES nowadys spaceships are huge...of course you cannot empty the whole space spation or shuttle for a spacewalk but back to the time of small Voshod 2 and Gemini: russian mounted a complicated and external system on the hull of Voshod (so narrow that Leonov had problem to back in the capsule) while americans were so confident to built all Gemini series with a big opening hatch as a convertible car. Do you understand the difference in term of technology and reliabilty of materials needed ?
goodyears73 2 months ago
Svara på det här videoklippet... I don't say USSR was any better than USA, or vice versa. Each nation was more successfull than the other in different disciplines. One can't say one was a "winner" and one a "loser", looking at the whole space exploring history.
YDDES 2 months ago
@YDDES Just to stop our long and useful discussion: I never talked abt "winner" and "loser" of space race ..only abt differnce in technology level in 60-70 ...I got huge respect for russian engineers: they made miracles considering what they had, especially for manned missions.
goodyears73 2 months ago
@Enysvar I suggest you to get deeper into subject...space exploration is far more to be the first to do something. We are talking of science and technology and "how" you succeed counts too
Abouts spacewalk...USA did it just a couple of months later and imho it's more important to compare how russian and american solved the problem to let an astronaut get out of spaceship, depressurization/pressurization system, feasibilty of the solution... read about it and let me know
goodyears73 2 months ago
@goodyears73 YOUR OPINION DOES NOT MATTER IN THE FACE OF GLORIOUS MOTHER RUSSIA!
Enysvar 2 months ago
@Enysvar ... yes yes glorious MILF russia :-))
goodyears73 2 months ago
@YDDES
Well, the United States caught up with the Russians, see, we put a man on the moon, but the Russians didnt, see the Russians may have been first to put a man in space, and all that, we did those too. Well, we also have firsts in our own rides too, First Rendevous of 2 vehicles on Gemini 6 and 7, and on Gamini 8, the first docking, we have also kept men in space longer.
awey271 1 month ago
TG1212able 4 months ago
@arthaskiller "First guys to perform a space walk: Soviet Union" ????
Spore1147 3 months ago
@Spore1147 Yes, Alexander Leonov, a Soviet cosmonaut performed the first "space walk". What about it?
YDDES 3 months ago
@YDDES ah okay, a missunderstanding, I thought the first Human being on Moon. Sorry. Yes you're right thats a bit unfair when the Americans win the space race. just because they were on the moon as a first. Only sad that begins the space time at the cold war. Imagine the two systems worked together and make together a spaceship who lands on the moon. Thats would so damn great
Spore1147 3 months ago
@Spore1147 Yes, if fundings had been available, USA, Russia and some other countries could have gone to Mars together. But, that will not happen. Not in our lifetime, anyhow...
YDDES 3 months ago
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Spindry96 3 months ago
@arthaskiller first woman in space: Soviet Union
first artificial object on the Moon, and on the Mars: both Soviet Union
first manned orbital base/station: you know
sending to the space a tourist: Russia ))
BBMSergey 3 months ago
@BBMSergey Sorry man..what hell of "first" is a woman in space ? If you have a rocket and a space capsule does it make any difference if you put in orbit a man, a woman or the same weight of crap ?
For what concern Mars..very good for URSS to be the first to send a wreck on its surface... no sorry I'm wrong ..Mars3 send data for 20 seconds ...Viking 1 mission arrived 3 ys later but he send 100 times photos and information alone than entire URSS program ...anyway be proud to be the first ! :-))
goodyears73 2 months ago
@goodyears73 Man you should to learn topic before you public shame.
Sending woman to space its a brand-new technology in biology&medicine. You know. Absolutely different kinds of problems.
But you are think only about steel. Steel was the same. Filling was a new.
BBMSergey 2 months ago
@BBMSergey You are right for long period in space. Valentina Tereschkova mission was short...so nothing different or better or new compared to previous male cosmonauts space flights.
Politburo decided USSR to be the first to send a woman in space, so they did it: find a woman in good fit, teach her how to use parachute, put her on top of a rocket in an automatic space capsule, if she back alive from space announce to the world USSR did it, applause.
goodyears73 2 months ago
@goodyears73 All early manned space journeys were made to test how humans could survive and work with different things. None was made for propaganda purpose only, but both USSR and USA used them for propaganda too.
Valentina Tereschkova already was a trained parachute jumper when she was asked if she wanted to train to be a cosmonaut.
The Mercury capsules also were fully automatic. If everything functioned as planned (which it seldom did), the astronaut didn't have to do anything.
YDDES 2 months ago
@YDDES She was already trained as parachute jumper ? Good..the most of training to be a vostok cosmonaut was already done.:-)) For yankees was easier: they landed into spacecraft.
Ofc I'm joking ...anyway I repeat my point: among several russian "firsts", first woman in space has been the most useless and ineffective in terms of real technology progress ...russian sent another woman in space 20 ys later and first american female astronaut flew on space shuttle.
Men and women are equal or not ?
goodyears73 2 months ago
@goodyears73 One important reason only one woman did a spaceflight during the first 20 years, is that both USA and USSR selected their astronauts among military test pilots. Not very many women in that profession. Not even today...
Today scientists can become astronauts without being able to pilot military aircraft.
YDDES 2 months ago
@goodyears73 watch apollo 13 and see if training for space flights is about just learning how to use a parachute. it was something never done before, no one knew what could go wrong and cosmonauts/astronauts were supposed to know the ship, be ready to make critical decisions in no time and withstand any kind of psychological stress.
Gagarin jumped out of his landing module because it was considered safer until the module was tested several times. he could have stayed in the capsule instead.
aleclitvinov 2 months ago
@aleclitvinov As far as I've "heard", all Vostok astronauts ejected from their capsules because the ship made a quite hard landing. The modified Vostoks renamed Voshkod, had no ejection seats, but retrorockets in their parachute cords, firing a few feet above ground, lessening the impact.
YDDES 2 months ago
@arthaskiller The Soviet Union had a lot of firsts, but in the long run the United States preformed more missions and the missions they did were generally more successful than the soviet counterparts. I find it a common misconception that people believe the soviets "won" the space race.
Grapist217 3 months ago
@Grapist217 Looks like you're just another american Ultra Nationalist trying to rationalize what a huge step in scientific discovery a lot of this was. If the Soviet Union hadn't done all of these things first it would not have pushed the Americans so hard to try and beat the Soviets and who know the United States may not have been the first to walk on the moon. If you think about it, we could be living in a place where man had not even been into space yet.
ModelTXInfAmY 3 months ago
@Grapist217 So yes Americans may have been on the moon first but as much as you argue about it the Soviets won the Space Race and maybe they didn't do everything as good as the Americans or had as many flights into space as the Americans but they won it.
ModelTXInfAmY 3 months ago
@ModelTXInfAmY As far as I know, the finish line for the space race was being able to have humans land on moon. The Americans did it. Buzz Aldrin said that he and his mate Neil Armstrong were the first humans to set foot on lunar soil. It just happened to be americans. The Americans won it.
jtownshend 3 months ago
@jtownshend There was no "finish line" in the "space race". It was not obvious that USA should send men to Moon. JFK asked his space advisors to do something spectacular that USSR hadn't already done. For example build a space station or put a man on Moon.
It was considered more easy to go to Moon, so USA settled for that option.
If USSR hadn't collapsed, the race had continued. For Mars.
YDDES 3 months ago
@YDDES
Are you kidding me? Please be kidding, first of all, that is less of the tax payers dollars, and second, if we were to get into a race against them over heavy lifting capability, witch is all but putting up a space station, we would of lost the race, the Apollo program is 10 to 20 billion dollars, alot of cash, and its alot easier to put a big labratory on top of a rocket and just carry it up into space, but going to the moon.....
awey271 1 month ago
@YDDES
Requires you to figure out the flight path, the maneuvers to get into orbit, how to land and get back home in one piece, space station, oh, wel you just get up there, eat a couple of donuts, and come back home.
awey271 1 month ago
@YDDES
and the moon was the soviet's ultimate objective
awey271 1 month ago
@Grapist217
Totally bro, we kept men in space longer, achieved the first ever orbital rendevous and first docking, oh sure, the soviets did all those firsts, but you see, we did those things too, first man in space: Soviet Union, we did that too, first EVA in space(space walk), we did that first, first man on the moon: US. oh hell no, they never put a man on the moon.
awey271 1 month ago
@Grapist217
so i agree, US has won
awey271 1 month ago
@arthaskiller you forgot:
first opject on the moon: USSR
first rover on the moon : USSR
first fag on the moon : USSR
first (and only) working prone on venus: USSR
first goup flight:USSR
first spacesation: USSR
first satalite to orbit the moon:USSR
so the USSR won the space race by far! the story they didnt is just american propaganda...
soverato3 3 months ago
@arthaskiller It's not the one who starts but the one who finishes my friend ;)
AmmoBravo 3 months ago
@arthaskiller
Generally in a race whoever crosses the finish line first is the winner And when you consider that the finish line was the Moon I'd say the US won the Space Race
ThatAdelaideGuy 3 months ago
@ThatAdelaideGuy You can choose any "finish line" You please. USSR crossed the "finish lines" regarding artifical satellites, lunar probes, manned spacetravel and EVA's first. USA crossed the "finish line" regarding manned lunar landings first. To think all space exploration only aimed to be the first to land a man on Moon, is ignorant and uneducated.
YDDES 3 months ago
@YDDES So you're saying that the Space Race Isn't Over?
ThatAdelaideGuy 3 months ago
@ThatAdelaideGuy If USA wins the last branch of athletics in the Olympics, but Russia have won 5 branches, would You say USA won the Olympics?
As I said: If USSR hadn't collapsed a race to Mars had been going on. And, there is China...
YDDES 3 months ago
@ThatAdelaideGuy
Agreed bro, like the soviets were the first to launch a satellite, well, we did that too, first to put a man into space: Soviet Union, but we did that too, first space walk: soviet union, we did that too, kept men in space longer: United States, nope, soviets never did that, first man on the moon: United States, Soviets never did that, we also have firsts, like first docking in space and first rendevous. Yeah, the US won.
awey271 1 month ago
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awey271 3 months ago
@arthaskiller
First docking in space: United States
First to orbit the moon: United States
First to fly 50,000 feet above the moon: United States
The ones destroying evidence saying they werent in the Space Race: Soviet Union
Crashed Luna, a probe: Soviet Union
Lost the Space Race and other stuff( like chess and hockey): Soviet Union
awey271 3 months ago 2
@awey271 Nope. First docking was indeed the Soviet Union. First to orbit the moon was the SU aswell. 50,000 feet above the moon I know nothing about, but since 30,000 feet is standard for planes to fly above tellus, I guess the Soviets were first there. The Soviet Union never destroyed any evidence from the Space Race, don't know where you got that from. Sure, Luna crashed. The Americans failed to launch their first 7 manned expedition, The Soviets crashed an object. Thanks for mentioning that.
arthaskiller 3 months ago
@arthaskiller
Wait, wasnt the first docking on Gemini 8 with the Agena?
awey271 3 months ago
@awey271
Oh, cool, well, since you said that the soviets did the first docking, well, your wrong, in Gemini 8, Neil Armstrong and Dave Scott performed the first ever docking with the Agena, also, the soviets havent ever gotten close to the moon, so, lemme go through this again
First to orbit the moon: US
First to perform a docking: US
First 2 man space walk: US
First to put a man on the moon: US
First to fly 50,000 feet above the moon: US on Apollo 10 with Gene Cernan and Tom Stafford
awey271 3 months ago
GravityPowerful 1 month ago
@GravityPowerful I agree... Russia has won.
LongBow1600 1 month ago
@GravityPowerful Actually, Luna 1 missed the moon and became an "artificial comet". Luna 2 was the first manmade object on the moons surface.
Salyut 1 (1971) was the first space station, not MIR (1986).
So, please don't call others "dumbass" if they are ignorant... :)
YDDES 1 month ago
@GravityPowerful
Your the dumbass here, we were the first to orbit the moon on Apollo 8
First to perform a rendezvous beetween two space vehicles- United States, Gemini 6 7
First to dock- Gemini 8 with the agena
First to dock and have a transfer with the docked vehicle- United States- Apollo 9
First 2 man space walk-United States-apollo 9
First to put a man on the moon- United States- Apollo 11
First to decend 50000 feet manned- united states- apollo 10
awey271 1 month ago
@GravityPowerful
Also, the space station was not apart of the space race, nor was the venus probe
awey271 1 month ago
@GravityPowerful
Oh, and the Russians lost 2 astronauts in the Soyuz missions, we were pro on Apollo 13, at least we can solve problems and not fail launching rockets, like your stupid Russian N1 moon rockets that failed
awey271 1 month ago
@awey271 Wrong. the Russians lost 1 cosmonaut in Soyuz 1 and 3 cosmonauts in Soyuz 11. USA lost 7 astronauts in Challenger and 7 astronauts in Columbia.
YDDES 1 month ago
@YDDES
Yeah, but Columbia and Challenger werent apart of the space race
awey271 1 month ago
@awey271 Not the race to Moon, but the Shuttles were part of the race to build space stations and ultimately be the first on Mars. A race that vanished with the demise of USSR.
YDDES 1 month ago
@YDDES
You sure about this, from what ive heard, the space race was over when the Luna probe crashed
awey271 1 month ago
@awey271 There was still a"race" going on when Soviet collapsed. The Salyut stations (and first even MIR) actually were prototypes for a manned Mars ship. One reason for the long stays in orbit was to test if a human could live and work in space conditions long enough to make a round trip to Mars.
You can't say one part "won the space race". USA won the race to Moon, yes. But USSR won the race to put a satellite and a man in space and to put an artificial object on Moon. Among some other things.
YDDES 1 month ago
@YDDES
No, im sure we won the space race, we have many firsts our selves
First Manned launch of a LEM: US
First Rendezvous of 2 manned spacecraft: US
First Docking in space: US
First docking of 2 manned vehicles: US
First men in a LEM in space: US
First 2 man spacewalk: US
First manned orbit around the moon: US
First to get close to the lunar surface(Apollo 10): US
awey271 3 weeks ago
@YDDES
Besides, we would still beat the Russian to Mars, cause we proved that precise touchdown was possible, we figure out how to enter trans lunar injection, and we can also built suits designed for walking on another surface to protect a man from the harsh conditions of outer space
awey271 3 weeks ago
@YDDES
and the moon race was also apart of the space race, in fact, i can name alot more firsts than just putting a man on the moon
First to dock and have transfer between the 2 vessels: US
kept men in space longer: US
First to prove a precise touchdown was possible: US
first to man a rover: US
awey271 3 weeks ago
@awey271 Soviet was first to land a spaceprobe on Venus. USA has not done that. Actually, I think this "who won the space race" is silly. It's like asking:"Who won the car race" comparing the Monaco Grand Prix to the Le Mans, The Nascar and so on. If one is asking "who won", every bit must be judged to itself.
YDDES 3 weeks ago
@YDDES
I agree, this fight is stupid, but hey, lets go against that guy who thinks the moon landing was fake, maybe u can annoy him
awey271 3 weeks ago
@awey271 I have tried to discuss with a lot of them who say the moonlandings were faked. It's just like staying and banging your head to the wall...
YDDES 3 weeks ago
@YDDES
Dude, i already baanged 2 conspiracy theorists heads to the wall, i think we can handle GAURDIANtrooper
awey271 3 weeks ago
@awey271 It would be nice to see just one of them admitting a mistake instead of resorting to bad language and namecalling...
YDDES 3 weeks ago
@YDDES Hey, i need help with one guy here, im being polite, and he just name calling me when i explain stuff to him, here the youtube link- watch?v=wFuKCB7L1WY&feature=email&email=comment_reply_received
awey271 3 weeks ago
@awey271 Just ignore them.
YDDES 3 weeks ago
@YDDES
Its kinda hard to when they start cursing
awey271 2 weeks ago
@awey271 Well, I just have blocked some of the worst so they will at least not show up in my mail.
YDDES 2 weeks ago
@YDDES
Aww crap. GAURDIANtrooper is saying crap at me now
awey271 3 weeks ago
@YDDES
So dont go around your neigborhood telling everyone the USA sucked at the space race
awey271 3 weeks ago
@YDDES
Sorry, i meant to say 2 missions
awey271 1 month ago
@GravityPowerful
And im talking about manned missions, not the stupid unmanned ones
awey271 1 month ago
@awey271 There's nothing "stupid" about unmanned missions. Without them, there would have been no manned. And, we have learned MUCH more about the solar system and the universe thanks to the unmanned, than to the manned missions.
YDDES 1 month ago
@YDDES
You are correct, but you see, if it werent for manned missions we wouldnt have found out where the moon came from, or found orange soil there, like on luna missions, unmanned, they just scooped some stuff out, manned missions are more effective
awey271 1 month ago
@arthaskiller
Also, never put a man on the moon: Soviet union
awey271 3 months ago
@awey271 Like if the moon actually mattered. We still don't know if it's true, considering how evidence shows otherwise. There was absolutely nothing on the moon that had any value, so don't go care your little head about that.
arthaskiller 3 months ago
@arthaskiller
Dude, the moon landing is true, they put reflectors on the Apollo 15 landing sight, and we shined a laser towards it and we got a response, and it is not from the moons reflection. Also, on the Apollo 11 landing, if it was faked, then how come there were so many malfunctions. There would be no way we would find a way to fake that. And i dont want to start a fight, so, you know, and also, the moon matters cause we are running out of fossil fuels, and the moon may have helium 3.
awey271 3 months ago
@awey271 Helium 3 is obsolete, compared to everything else we demand on earth. We still can't find the flag the Americans supposedly placed there, and whilst NASA claimed they brought no artificial lightning, the shadows are shown coming from every direction.
arthaskiller 3 months ago
@arthaskiller
So anyway, the shadows are shown coming from every direction cause the moon reflects tons of sunlight. Also, you cant just look up and see an american flag placed there. They also brought back lunar samples with Helium 3 inside of it, so basically, it is proof that we have been to the moon, yo cant just take a random rock from earth and paint it and expect to find HE3 inside of it, thats stupid.
awey271 3 months ago
@arthaskiller - What do you mean we still can't find the flag? They were never lost :-) They're still exactly where the Apollo astronauts left them from 1969-1972. The evidence for man landing on the moon is overwhelming, and after years of seeing ALL the hoax claims made, none of them hold up to scrutiny (none, zero, zilch). Also, don't you find it strange that hoax documentaries claim the footage was faked using wires and slow motion, and yet none of them actually SHOW us how it was done?
MTMind2 3 months ago
@MTMind2 No, that's the thing. The flags have never been seen after the landing, despite having looked all over the moon for them. And there's a documentary showing the moon walking in fast motion, making it look as if they did it on earth. There's no hard evidence for the moon landing.
arthaskiller 3 months ago
@arthaskiller - That's nonsense my friend. The flags can't be seen because they're too small, however photos of the landing sites have been taken showing the lander, rover, equipment and even tracks, for example;
/watch?v=wkt4CD-FMGM
As for fast motion. Dust kicked up by astronauts and rovers are PERFECT for the moon's gravity (& NO atmosphere), so to match earth's gravity, ALL film needs to be sped up 2.46 times. NONE of docs do that because the result would be like this;
/watch?v=qxHHq4oBaw4
MTMind2 3 months ago
@MTMind2 We have equipment to zoom so much in on the moon we'd almost be able to spot your brain. A flag or an object to the liking would be easy to see - had it been there. Also, thanks for the sped-up video. Since we have now determined the moon landing is indeed faked (as your lower video shows), maybe we can clear up other things the American government has "managed".
arthaskiller 3 months ago
@arthaskiller - Why resort to childish insults? Just stick to the discussion please. It's was perfectly clear from the video that the resolution was just enough to see the equipment but a flag, especially from above (or do you think they laid the flags flat on the surface before leaving?). And my sped up video proves 2.46x doesn't work, the limb movements are too fast and hence unrealistic, but nice try. So now that those claims of yours have been debunked, tell me about your shadows again.
MTMind2 3 months ago
@MTMind2 We have this amazing invention called a Rover or whatever, a vehicle that takes photos on the moon or Mars. We have estimated it has been around the entire moon area twice and they still haven't found anything. The limbs move a bit fast, yes, but that's because the video is far too much sped up. Everybody knows this, even you. Look at any picture of the moon and you'll find the shadows are off.
arthaskiller 3 months ago
@arthaskiller - Again you prove you have no idea what you're talking about. There are no active rovers on the moon today. The only rovers have been those from the USSR in the early 70s, Lunokhod 1 & 2, which covered a tiny area before failing. The shadows claim comes from those who are a) ignorant about perfective, and/or b) assume the lunar surface is flat. The following vids covers that so-called issue;
/watch?v=XAcXBT-GZCo
/watch?v=-4T0q5skcUg
You still believe the shadows MUST be parallel?
MTMind2 3 months ago
@arthaskiller - I see you admit the limbs move too fast, but say the video is sped up too much. With that comment you prove my point!
The dust seen in ALL Apollo footage is PERFECT for the moon's gravity (1/6th earth's). On earth, everything would fall 2.46x quicker (square root of 6), and so to match earth's gravity the film MUST be sped up by 2.46x, not slower, not faster, but by 2.46x. Once done, thrown up dust and objects matches earth's gravity, but the astronaut's limbs look wrong.
MTMind2 3 months ago
@arthaskiller - And more typos :-) - "perfective" should be "perspective". I'm sure there are others I missed :)
MTMind2 3 months ago
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@arthaskiller "We have this amazing invention called a Rover or whatever, a vehicle that takes photos on the moon or Mars"... You don't even know yourself if You are talking about Moon or Mars... And You clearly know NOTHING about this "Rover". So, do You really feel qualified to discuss this matter? To suggest that You know better than all the scientists around the world, who for +40 years have known that man landed on Moon 1969-72?
Hilarious...
YDDES 3 months ago
@arthaskiller - [Correction..."but NOT a flag"]. And do explain why you feel seeing the Apollo landers, rovers, tracks, and various equipment on the moon's surface is less important that seeing a flag from above? And again I ask, where's the reconstruction of the Apollo footage if it only requires slow motion and wires? We see ALL major magic tricks revealled on TV, we see ALL movie special effects revealed, yet in 4 decades no-one has been able to recreate the Apollo footage using 60s/70s tech.
MTMind2 3 months ago
@arthaskiller "We have equipment to zoom so much in on the moon we'd almost be able to spot your brain. A flag or an object to the liking would be easy to see - had it been there." Please show me to a source where this equipment is described. Or did You just invent it?
YDDES 3 months ago
@arthaskiller
Oops, i forgot, first to perform 2 man space walk: United States
awey271 3 months ago
@awey271 Oh wow. They didn't just send out one man, they sent out two. I guess that's twice as hard... Might as well follow up: First to take a shit in space: Soviet Union. First to eat in space: Soviet Union. First to talk in space: Soviet union. First to breathe in space: Soviet Union. First to see in space: Soviet Union. First to think in space: Soviet Union. Know what I'm getting at?
arthaskiller 3 months ago
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awey271 3 months ago
Im not looking for a fight, i just like to debate
awey271 3 months ago
@arthaskiller Leading a race doesn't make a winner, and a race can not be won without finishing.
foxkart61 3 months ago
@arthaskiller
+ First space station.
meteor4163 3 months ago
@arthaskiller Не ври! Небыло мерикосов на Луне.
42Nikolay 3 months ago
@Grapist217 God is an Astronaut.
ceejdrumz 4 months ago
Still Russia and USA remain THE ONLY ONES in space subjugation!
Keep going!
MasterC280 4 months ago
Id say he was the first to shit his daks in sapce!!
bjm351 4 months ago
Thats my grandpa
danielsendyk 4 months ago
@danielsendyk Yeah
And George Washington is my bus driver
AccessDenied55 4 months ago
The way I look at it, it doesn't matter if you American, Russian, Chinese, etc. what ever you achieve for your country is also an achievement for humanity and I think we forget that sometimes.
Doom61000 4 months ago
Soviet camera technology was shitastic
Drfusebox 5 months ago
first artificial satellite,first russian animal in space,first russian man in space ,first russian woman in space, first russian space walk,first soviet SPACE STATION IN SPACE!!! Who says that the space race have lost we. Will have to spend hours and hours on the books of history to study. AND Moon sucks, it was not even true journey! American liars, for profit, to show himself strong in making movies in Hollywood!!
GravityPowerful 5 months ago
@GravityPowerful yep u r right 100%, and the same about II world war: the russians did it mostly, not americans
So what went wrong with USSR?, mm* i think mostly nothing since they was starting from czar medioeval feudal system in 1920s, they have a lot of potential to grow up in the future
lotorobly 5 months ago
WHat if they need to scratch their balls in space?
Sevival 6 months ago
Leonov almost died. His suit bloated up to where he couldnt move and he was barly able to get back inside Voskhod.
MurphyMonster 6 months ago 2
@MurphyMonster well yes, while armstrong was on a movie set somewhere in nevada
lotorobly 5 months ago
@lotorobly Go fuck yourself.
MurphyMonster 5 months ago
@MurphyMonster Go replace ur brain with a worm, u will have more breeding chances
lotorobly 5 months ago
CCCP \o/
TrevsA7X1 6 months ago
Long live Leonov ,Buzz and Armstrong and may God always protect this great heroes of Mankind!
TheHotelMoxa 7 months ago
I have an OCD about things coming undone at certain points. I wouldn't be able to do this because I would want to see how long I could tug on my helment until it comes off.
dalek14mc 8 months ago
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PROOF that Andy Harglesis, disbeliever of Apollo landings, is famous:
Andy Harglesis's Wikipedia page: /wiki/AndyHarglesis after en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org
andyharglesissupport 8 months ago
Like a new born baby :)
ParaglidingManiac 8 months ago
Russians were not the first in space. They faked it. Shepard was the first and White was the first EVA. Fuck the soviets, America beats you again!
yesiamawizardjonny 8 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny The Russians did do it first, but United States did it way better!
glory777 8 months ago
@glory777 No they didn't. Yuri Gagarin claimed he could see the Earth through a space craft with no windows. Check out the Vostok hoax. It was poorly executed.
yesiamawizardjonny 8 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny "Freedom 7" didn't have a window either. Al Shepard had a periscope to see the earth and identify landmarks. I'm only assuming Gagarin's did too. But I've never read about the Vostok hoax. Sounds interesting, can you point me to sites that talk about it?
glory777 8 months ago
@glory777 You might have to google it. If you go to "hunchbacked" after the youtube url, he has a website listed on the left side of his channel. Go there and look for the Gagarin hoax, it's easy to find.
yesiamawizardjonny 8 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny-OH MY GOD....STOP WHORING UP SPACE VIDEOS AND JUST LET PEOPLE WATCH THEM!!! YOU'VE ANNOYED ENOUGH PEOPLE BY TALKING ABOUT THE MOON LANDING HOAX!!!
dalek14mc 8 months ago 4