I can't believe this cult still exists. Religious Freedom is one thing. To allow people to be brainwashed and driven to poverty by thieves is another. Why doesn't USA do something to make this cult illegal? I think that all organized religions are poison. But Scientology is worse than poison and worse than nazism. It has to disappear.
Very cool interview. Liked how you drew him out, Tori. More of those would be good.
I was wondering what the deal is with his wife and kids now. Also with your son, Tori. Also, for both if you had gotten back in touch with (or spent more time with now) siblings, parents, old friends, etc.
This just points out how HCO is EVIL. But they are just following the policies of L Ron Phuckwad. Of course you could argue that some data is senior to other data, and they are just applying the less senior policy as destructively as possible. In that case, correct policy was not really followed. I hope Kevin has a relationship with his kid now.
You know everyone in the scientology community. When kirstie alley finally leaves you'll be interviewing her i bet lol (hopefully she'll leave but she's so deep in it, i can just tell)
this guy would do good working with pain patients, just doing whatever, just because he is able to recognize he said at a young age that some people have problems day to day just surviving basically, much less working.....and there are people like that when they are in pain...I haven't been able to work for awhile because of that....I am almost done with school though so i plan to work but just not moving constantly, but I like how he seems to recognize that
Thanks Tory for posting this, it's amazing as usual. My whole day is brighter now after watching the two of you chat.
Bravo Kevin! Great interview. How wonderful it is to find your voice and speak up about your experiences, good and not so good while inside. Yours is a powerful voice, I hope a few of the people who need to hear it did.
What are those E-Meter things I keep hearing about. Are they based on galvanic skin response like lie-detectors ? I think keeping people awake for long hours, working them to exhaustion and not enough food are probably classic brain washing techniques. Torry you have had a very unique life. You should get some of it down on paper. Sounds like it would be a good read.
Also, I had a man whom I worked for who was ( OT8 ) He lied on a regular basis and would play mind games with his employees, Since he gave large donations to the cult, they would NOT do any thing to him when I reported him to Ethics for his lying.
Same stuff I've seen after my 17 years in, No staff training, No staff moving up the bridge, etc. etc. very poorly paid staff members, living in large groups, barely paying the bills. Then you get the hell out and nobody can talk to you. So glad I'm out, I really see what a brain wash it is.!!! P.S. some of the Ethics officers would tell me some of the most stupid things I've ever heard.
Man, you can really tell that you still have Sci comm routines ingrained in your brain, Tory! Not that it's really bad, but you still really comm like someone that's in. :)
Tory, this is such a sad story. Even sadder is that there are so many people who have similar stories (you included). This video really hit home with me and solidifies "the cause" of Anonymous. Excellent post!
Wow! Great idea, Tory!! It's wonderful to see and hear Kevin Brady, who I have come to know of at the various forums for a number of years now!! He described Scientology staff life the way it really is. I hope others speak up. I hope Kevin's children get an opportunity to see and hear as I did today.
Brilliant interview and what a nice guy! Tory are you a partner on YT if you can put up vids this long? Hope you do more like this. It's great to hear other experiences in the cult.
That was a great interview. I hope you decide to do more interviews like this one where you speak with former members. You have a good instinct for asking the right questions and then letting your subject answer and then interjecting at the right time without out seeming to step on their train of thought. A really good job!
@54CharleeNine Thank you! I'm happy to interview anyone (and would like to). All that I need are people in the area to either call, or PM me that they'd like to. I'll be on it!!! :) My best, Tory/Magoo
@ToryMagoo44 id LOVE to see you interview juliette lewis....hahaha. of course, dont give her your background, tory! we can tell her you work for "womans day" or something similar.
You all are SOoooooooooo welcome, and thanks for enjoying this interview, and commenting about it :) I enjoyed talking to Kevin, and he enjoyed doing it, too.
Kevin Brady!!! I wanna give you a big oh hug!!! really I do! like really really big hug and tell you to stay strong and continue to do wat youse doing. thnx Magoo, for the upload.
Excellent interview, Tory and Kevin! Many of the comments Kevin made regarding poorly equipped staff remind me of similar remarks made by Jason Beghe in his interview. He spoke (very colourfully too!) about some staff being ill-educated, or English not being their first language, or being really young or just plain incompetent. He too wondered how they would fulfill their lofty ambition if staff were in such a bad way. Anyway, great work, keep it up!
Glad that you have the ability to post videos more than 10 minutes. Keep that in mind when interviewing others. Great interview, by the way. Always nice to hear ex-scientologists talk about their experiences.
For the Scientologists secretly watching Tory's videos and learning what is true for you - please don't stop reading and gathering all of the information you can, to confirm any doubts you might have.
Tory whats your opinion on accountability? Obviously David 'Slappy' Miscavige needs arresting (hopefully this year) but what about Tommy Davis? If he blew tomorrow and started talking against the 'church' would that excuse the malicious things hes said and done? IMHO long time critics like you have more than made up for any evils you did in the church with your actions since but what about upper level defectors who will leave after the church is unsalvagable just to avoid accountability.
@TheAzureJahk I posted before finishing the video which was tactless and now I feel like I was being antagonistic with that comment. To clarify it a bit I mean those people who are not in the Truman Show, the ones benefitting and are fully aware of what they're doing. I guess I am trying to ask at what point are they more swindler than victim.
@ToryMagoo44 Spaghetti Monster is a reference to an athiest's argument against religion, claiming that since you can't PROVE God exists, there's very little chance of it even being remotely true. Going on to say something along the lines of people believing God is a spaghetti monster just because they're told he is.
I imagine lots of people have replied to you already in the three hours since you posted this, but what the hey. Try Googling "open letter to the Kansas school board" (you know how Youtube feels about URLs) for the "origin story" of FSM. He's (the monster) become something of a celebrity on the Internet, particularly among atheists who like to point out the similarities between him and the gods of various religions.
I can't believe this cult still exists. Religious Freedom is one thing. To allow people to be brainwashed and driven to poverty by thieves is another. Why doesn't USA do something to make this cult illegal? I think that all organized religions are poison. But Scientology is worse than poison and worse than nazism. It has to disappear.
BillyBuddBay 1 year ago
Very cool interview. Liked how you drew him out, Tori. More of those would be good.
I was wondering what the deal is with his wife and kids now. Also with your son, Tori. Also, for both if you had gotten back in touch with (or spent more time with now) siblings, parents, old friends, etc.
ApolytonGP 1 year ago
ahh guy fawkes mask in the back :).
jjmaster14 1 year ago
@jjmaster14 :) Yup----it's there because I support any and all Anonymous who help expose the Cult of $cientology :)
ToryMagoo44 1 year ago
@ToryMagoo44 Woohooo:D!!
jjmaster14 1 year ago
Great video and story. We need lawyers to get out the brainwashed.
hotels7 1 year ago
really great Tory ...
we want more of this .... his point about the HOOK was how they got Megan ..
all out love
mona & the girls
thegaffergirls 1 year ago
It's such a shame that this nice person has wasted many years in the CoS. But eventually he found his way out to live a real life again.
Thank you Tory, thank you Kevin.
felibio 1 year ago
This just points out how HCO is EVIL. But they are just following the policies of L Ron Phuckwad. Of course you could argue that some data is senior to other data, and they are just applying the less senior policy as destructively as possible. In that case, correct policy was not really followed. I hope Kevin has a relationship with his kid now.
xenuburger 1 year ago
Here's a shoutout to Kevin from the Boston area! Thanks for speaking out.
annenna 1 year ago
You know everyone in the scientology community. When kirstie alley finally leaves you'll be interviewing her i bet lol (hopefully she'll leave but she's so deep in it, i can just tell)
AccessorizeAlways 1 year ago
this guy would do good working with pain patients, just doing whatever, just because he is able to recognize he said at a young age that some people have problems day to day just surviving basically, much less working.....and there are people like that when they are in pain...I haven't been able to work for awhile because of that....I am almost done with school though so i plan to work but just not moving constantly, but I like how he seems to recognize that
AccessorizeAlways 1 year ago
What an abusive cult,
Thanks for posting this!
elitemathlete 1 year ago
he's talking about how little staff people might eat ? i knew a scieno kid who, in 5 months, gained a good 50 lbs. stress, baby, stress....
jas22 1 year ago
What an AMAZING interview!! Kevin Brady makes such good points and he seems like such a sweet guy.
:) :)
LadyVetinari 1 year ago
The sad part is when he subconsciously makes a tear movement when he says he will never see his wife again. @ 8:56
cromwellian13 1 year ago
wonderful interview. kevin is so erudite and manages to convey his plight in a perfectly lucid and clear way. keep doing what you're doing, tory!
reduxphl 1 year ago
we'd love to hear Kevin talk more, tory! please consider doing more in depth conversations with him. thx. good video.
AlmightyCornhoolio 1 year ago
Great video! Thanks so much.
Hope your computer is working again, Magooski!
XENUTV 1 year ago
excellent excellent excellent interview thanks for sharing guys!!!!! really enjoyed the stories
ohbuddyiliketowatch 1 year ago
Great interview. Kevin makes me remember how close I came to being caught by this web. Mahalo guys.
tycovai 1 year ago
Thanks Tory for posting this, it's amazing as usual. My whole day is brighter now after watching the two of you chat.
Bravo Kevin! Great interview. How wonderful it is to find your voice and speak up about your experiences, good and not so good while inside. Yours is a powerful voice, I hope a few of the people who need to hear it did.
bagelboi66 1 year ago
What are those E-Meter things I keep hearing about. Are they based on galvanic skin response like lie-detectors ? I think keeping people awake for long hours, working them to exhaustion and not enough food are probably classic brain washing techniques. Torry you have had a very unique life. You should get some of it down on paper. Sounds like it would be a good read.
curlybobz 1 year ago
We are all in scientology , and none of us can remember!
minusblame 1 year ago
@minusblame I'm not. As far as anyone is concerned, i'm dead.
Kthxbaiwut 1 year ago
Also, I had a man whom I worked for who was ( OT8 ) He lied on a regular basis and would play mind games with his employees, Since he gave large donations to the cult, they would NOT do any thing to him when I reported him to Ethics for his lying.
hangover71 1 year ago
Same stuff I've seen after my 17 years in, No staff training, No staff moving up the bridge, etc. etc. very poorly paid staff members, living in large groups, barely paying the bills. Then you get the hell out and nobody can talk to you. So glad I'm out, I really see what a brain wash it is.!!! P.S. some of the Ethics officers would tell me some of the most stupid things I've ever heard.
hangover71 1 year ago
Man, you can really tell that you still have Sci comm routines ingrained in your brain, Tory! Not that it's really bad, but you still really comm like someone that's in. :)
TheBlackLagooner 1 year ago
Tory, this is such a sad story. Even sadder is that there are so many people who have similar stories (you included). This video really hit home with me and solidifies "the cause" of Anonymous. Excellent post!
gombis666 1 year ago
Now I know why the video is twenty minutes long. Good stuff, Thanks.
hotscubagreg 1 year ago
Excellent interview! Thanks Kevin and Tory. Give us more like this!
alicecolleenflynn 1 year ago
Wow! Great idea, Tory!! It's wonderful to see and hear Kevin Brady, who I have come to know of at the various forums for a number of years now!! He described Scientology staff life the way it really is. I hope others speak up. I hope Kevin's children get an opportunity to see and hear as I did today.
4Christ4ever 1 year ago
Hourra for Kevin! Thank so much for sharing your experience!
Rotulette 1 year ago
Brilliant interview and what a nice guy! Tory are you a partner on YT if you can put up vids this long? Hope you do more like this. It's great to hear other experiences in the cult.
Kitsymac 1 year ago
Interesting information. Thanks for sharing. :)
mollie2810 1 year ago
Really glad your out and happy Kevin, sounds like you had a horrible experience and your worth a hell of alot more than scientology
santamonica330 1 year ago
Wow self imposed slavery.
cosmosgato 1 year ago
Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Korea4Me 1 year ago
Nice :-)
hear2learn 1 year ago
That was a great interview. I hope you decide to do more interviews like this one where you speak with former members. You have a good instinct for asking the right questions and then letting your subject answer and then interjecting at the right time without out seeming to step on their train of thought. A really good job!
54CharleeNine 1 year ago 8
@54CharleeNine Thank you! I'm happy to interview anyone (and would like to). All that I need are people in the area to either call, or PM me that they'd like to. I'll be on it!!! :) My best, Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 1 year ago 3
@ToryMagoo44 Hi Tory,wow,that was a powerful interview and Kevin speaks his truths in a very meaningful way that I'm sure everybody will appreciate.
He's been in a most awful mental war but it's nice to see he's come out intact at the other end.
Rockster969 1 year ago
@ToryMagoo44 id LOVE to see you interview juliette lewis....hahaha. of course, dont give her your background, tory! we can tell her you work for "womans day" or something similar.
jas22 1 year ago
intresting post
ducksoup2007 1 year ago
Great interview ! Tory you're great !
wilykitwow 1 year ago
As always, I love you Tory. Thanks for the truth and all the important fact you present each and every week!
alpeaston 1 year ago
awesome video ~ thanks so much for sharing : )
Socksee 1 year ago
David Miscarriage is going to hell...
... just like L. Ron....
darthspeaks 1 year ago
You all are SOoooooooooo welcome, and thanks for enjoying this interview, and commenting about it :) I enjoyed talking to Kevin, and he enjoyed doing it, too.
Your comments mean a lot~ Love to all :) TLC
ToryMagoo44 1 year ago 7
Thanks for the upload Tory!
Very interesting, keep up the good work!
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
Kevin Brady!!! I wanna give you a big oh hug!!! really I do! like really really big hug and tell you to stay strong and continue to do wat youse doing. thnx Magoo, for the upload.
AnonymousOverseer 1 year ago
Excellent interview, Tory and Kevin! Many of the comments Kevin made regarding poorly equipped staff remind me of similar remarks made by Jason Beghe in his interview. He spoke (very colourfully too!) about some staff being ill-educated, or English not being their first language, or being really young or just plain incompetent. He too wondered how they would fulfill their lofty ambition if staff were in such a bad way. Anyway, great work, keep it up!
edubois31 1 year ago
Thank you for speaking out!
peterstorm1 1 year ago 2
So nice to hear from a fully functioning ex who has gotten his life back! These are so important.
-Casper
gonehome1433 1 year ago 10
Good interview.
baraqiyal 1 year ago 2
What an excellent point: how can the scientology enterprise claim that their goal is to "clear the planet" when most of their staff are not clear?
The truth is that the scientology enterprise's goal is to grab as much $ as it can. Making people "clear" is just a pretext.
anon8109 1 year ago 11
Glad that you have the ability to post videos more than 10 minutes. Keep that in mind when interviewing others. Great interview, by the way. Always nice to hear ex-scientologists talk about their experiences.
For the Scientologists secretly watching Tory's videos and learning what is true for you - please don't stop reading and gathering all of the information you can, to confirm any doubts you might have.
OpenComments 1 year ago
interesting takes. thanks for the accounts, and thanks for presenting them Tory.
TheSpiderMind 1 year ago
Tory whats your opinion on accountability? Obviously David 'Slappy' Miscavige needs arresting (hopefully this year) but what about Tommy Davis? If he blew tomorrow and started talking against the 'church' would that excuse the malicious things hes said and done? IMHO long time critics like you have more than made up for any evils you did in the church with your actions since but what about upper level defectors who will leave after the church is unsalvagable just to avoid accountability.
TheAzureJahk 1 year ago
@TheAzureJahk I posted before finishing the video which was tactless and now I feel like I was being antagonistic with that comment. To clarify it a bit I mean those people who are not in the Truman Show, the ones benefitting and are fully aware of what they're doing. I guess I am trying to ask at what point are they more swindler than victim.
TheAzureJahk 1 year ago
Excellent! Excellent.
bamboo4tameshigiri 1 year ago
spaghetti monster?
ToryMagoo44 1 year ago
@ToryMagoo44 Spaghetti Monster is a reference to an athiest's argument against religion, claiming that since you can't PROVE God exists, there's very little chance of it even being remotely true. Going on to say something along the lines of people believing God is a spaghetti monster just because they're told he is.
higofyp 1 year ago
@ToryMagoo44
I imagine lots of people have replied to you already in the three hours since you posted this, but what the hey. Try Googling "open letter to the Kansas school board" (you know how Youtube feels about URLs) for the "origin story" of FSM. He's (the monster) become something of a celebrity on the Internet, particularly among atheists who like to point out the similarities between him and the gods of various religions.
paulbottomley42 1 year ago
spaghetti monster!
llama9274 1 year ago