Graham Hancock - Quest for the Lost Civilization (7 of 14)

[MissAuraV]

Graham Hancock is brilliant! I cannot wait to read and watch more of his work!

[mikeinbc]

He's making many assumptions and running with it. The equinox window frame depends on where you are standing. The 19 year moon setting in the centre...Huge leap.

[MegaTriumph1]

Grahm was a hero of mine until he decided to use mind altering drugs to expand your mind. Sorry ever since that. I do not agree with what grahm said, so now I reject grahm as a goverment tool to hide the Truth. Grahm How Could say Such Garbage.

[lgndarymeth]

@MegaTriumph1 ....... Alcohol is a drug, same as weed. There's something fishy here don't you think. You've probably never even tried it, so don't make conclusions like that man. DMT our brain produces it, our mind alters in our sleep. BOOM. So what's wrong?

[anabolicErik]

I thought the oldest place in Europe was gobekli tepe

[MegaTriumph1]

Von Daniken was from a time when his ideas were so radical. He is truely a HERO to Be the the Founder of NEW Ideas for the Future and Past of Civilizations. Grahm has the same spin but rejects Alien beings. Its Quite Clear to me that Aliens were among the Humans. Graham should thank Von Daniken and do better research. Ohh I guess graham is Funded by the Goverment that wants nothing to do with the Alien aspect of things. Right Graham.

[WatchRyder]

@MegaTriumph1

If you check out G. Hancocks lecture on the Ayusca root you'll see he's quite open to the idea of otherwordly entities....

[governmentcheese411]

wow...it is so unfortunate that we will likely never know any real detail of our history much beyond what we know now. i'm sure we'll make some great discoveries, but i think that they will leave little more than rubble showing their presence. i think time has swiftly erased almost all of their existence. there is no Atlantis...i think there are Atlantis's! every culture on earth has some story of and older lost history. it only makes sense then, that we in fact, lost part of our history, period

[boygenius215]

Out of every documentary and book I read this makes the most sense. I even questioned why almost every other major temple or pyramid was always surrounded by trees except the ones in Egypt. I also like how they won't allow my pal to test the stone for water deposits of good ole h20. It doesn't surprise me that the guy in egypt in an earlier vids is like, I ain't letting no one test anything here otherwise you might prove us being wrong. The consistency amongst them all has to be taken accounted

[luckylangerie]

my god!! They built a fucking car park over the archeaogical site.. ignorant bumpkins.

[eipylOh]

And I bloody parked on it! Shazam! :/

[luckylangerie]

yes but I cant get it out of my mind that the pyrimids of egypt represented the constellation of orion.

[Scalywag66]

incidentally, they also are similiar geometrically to the "monuments" in the Cydonia region of Mars.

[TruthSmack]

The word Cairo translates into Mars!

[liketanyanot]

He goes on about Orion's influence all over the globe, that these cultures all had serpent Gods, were all astronomy based, aligned themselves with the same star system, had structures with strong astronomical similarities-- and we're supposed to believe this all happened in a vacuum? You mean to tell me that these "master navigators" he speaks of, who somehow were able to traverse- as far back as 10,500 years ago to leave their influence over vast tracts of land and sea--that they were human?

[acorntechnique]

No, we're not all supposed to believe that it happened in a vacuum, nor does he ever suggest or even imply that.

What he's saying, is that our forefathers had this knowledge at least 10,500 years ago, and probably a lot longer ago than that in order for this knowledge to have become well established and tested, and that this knowledge has been handed down from generation to generation, resulting in those structures which this series of videos shows, and yes, they were human of course.

[Seanomw]

Why of course? There is evidence of earlier civilizations, but nothing says that their knowledge or founding wasn't gathered from outside sources. In fact, there is evidence of it with ancient paintings depicting what looks like space ships and space suits etc in many of these places covered in this documentary. You can see pictures of them in "Chariots of the Gods", which is on Youtube.

[acorntechnique]

There is plenty of evidence of earlier civilisations with much more to be discovered.

Chariots of the Gods, and the other books by Von Daniken served their purpose in the 1970s when they were written but offer no scientific value at all.

Ancient paintings depicting space ships and whatnot doesn't constitute evidence of extra terrestrial involvement any more than images of NASA space flights do today.

If you actually studied the work of Graham Hancock in depth you would understand his science.

[Seanomw]

That makes no sense my friend. Today, it's known that we have space ships, so images of them shouldn't come as much of a shock to us.

However, images that depict them thousands and thousands of years ago is certainly not on par with seeing images of them today, since we supposedly gained this ability only a few decades ago.

[acorntechnique]

Actually it makes perfect sense. if, in a few thousand years after further massive cataclysm which if we're honest seems likely, life is reduced to the same odious re-learning process that man has experienced since the word 'Go', somebody will decide to develop a space ship to fly to the moon. About the same time an explorer may happen upon some drawings from the 20th century, depicting a strange craft bearing the word: 'NASA' - and will postulate from this that spacemen came to earth...

[Seanomw]

Sure, that is definite possibility and a cause for the drawings. I just don't think anyone can matter of factly dismiss "outside" influence.

Viewing the size of the universe and the possibility that intelligent life could have had millions of years of a head start on modern man, it is certainly conceivable we have had "visitors" imo.

[acorntechnique]

I agree that we should not dismiss the notion of possible extra terrestrial influence, but the risk that placing too much value on such a notion has, is that it may lead us to bark up the wrong tree.

The possibility of extra terrestrial involvement has always been attractive to some, since it offers an explanation to any lack of hard artefactual evidence to the contrary. The problem, is that hard evidence from 20,000 years ago, is going to be extremely scarce at least or worse destroyed.

[acorntechnique]

It always amazes me that so many people desire to waste so much mental energy deliberating over whether or not intelligent life exists elsewhere.

Firstly, mathematical statistical models have been produced which clearly show that intelligent life must exist elsewhere, secondly, only a race as arrogant as us humans would ever suggest something to the contrary, and thirdly, our intuition, should we choose to listen to it, tells us that we are certainly NOT alone in this universe.

[acorntechnique]

For me, the question of extra terrestrial intelligent life was a done and dusted theme by the time I was about 12 years old. Likewise, i was done and dusted with Von Daniken's books by the time i was about 18, since his approach failed to offer the reader even a morsel of science, though they did offer interesting reading with some food for thought.

I follow Graham Hancock's research fervently, as I believe his methodology is gong to lead us to a far more accurate understanding of our past.

[Seanomw]

Sorry, I only saw your last post, the previous two i didn't notice at first.

I agree we shouldn't place too much of a value on it and i'm not, I'm only leaving the possibility of it open, which was my issue with your "of course they were human" statement.

[acorntechnique]

I was hasty to suggest "of course they were human" - but i think its important to pay merit to scientific approaches, in preference to that which is simply an 'idea'.

Erik Von Daniken is almost famous for his lack of a scientific approach. In fact, all of his books are really nothing more than ideas and a few prints. He did very well out of it and no doubt is still reaping the rewards as we speak!

Did alien life help us to shape our understanding of life and universal law?

Perhaps.

[acorntechnique]

Graham Hancock has his own website which contains a mountain of information - in fact all his research going back to the beginning. You may wish to have a read of some of the articles or even join and enter into some of the discussions going on.

The site also has RSS feeds from many archaeological institutions, with constant updates plus lots of other interesting material.

I won't post the URL here as i don't wish to ruffle the feathers of this channel's author.

Google it.

Happy reading!

[FredMcWoozy]

If you listen to Daniken you will hear him say. "I did not know the answers, i only asked the questions."

He had over 267 questions in chariots of the gods. So i am not really sure where the science statement came from if you actually read his books.

He didnt even know, he was just asking questions that seemed logical to him.

[acorntechnique]

I've read all of his books which had been published while I was a teenager.

The problem I have with von Daniken is that he only ever asks questions. He never really poses any possible answers.

Any idiot can ask questions. That's the easy bit.

It takes someone of Graham Hancock's calibre to ask questions AND pose plausible answers with a strong measure of science thrown in too.

Hancock and Bauval are the real heros.

To me, von Daniken is just some guy who sells books which might appeal to kids.

[mainsqueeze1977]

@acorntechnique

He claims to merely ask questions but he suggests answers. That he never openly does this, neatly absolves him from the critical process of actually weighing and judging evidence.

[acorntechnique]

Anyone who takes seriously the question of the origins of ancient civilisation would quickly discard von Daniken in favour of Hancock or Bauval for the simple reason that von Daniken's bone has so little meat on it.

To me, von Daniken wasted an almost unique opportunity (at that time) to take the bull by the horns, work with scientists and start to provide some evidence for his claims, as Hancock and Bauval have attempted.

Instead he simply didn't bother.

Curious don't you think?

[FredMcWoozy]

I totally agree. I am glad you made the point about the questions in VD books. Sometimes people assume Von Daniken was making statements and claims. When in reality he was just asking open ended questions that he was curious about. He pointed out anomalies and inconsistencies then asked why? no science, just questions. I love this DOC. It was amazing.

[guitaoist]

so your kicking yourself now with all this disclosure right?

[acorntechnique]

Furthermore, we already have evidence of this. Modern history tells us that accurate maps of the world were not possible before the middle of the 18th century when the first really accurate clock was developed - an essential aid when measuring degrees of longitude. Yet, we have the Piri Reis maps from 1513. The longitudes for twenty-four sites are accurate to within half a degree and further, the author's comments on these maps clearly state that they are based on other ancient maps.

[acorntechnique]

John Harrison who invented the marine chronometer in 1735 is accredited with giving us the means to map the world accurately, yet it's clear that this knowledge existed long before him. the maps include such areas as: China, North America, South America, and ice-free portions of Antarctica...

[Seanomw]

Sure, i've heard of examples of similar things. Such as evidence of European settlers in the Americas many hundreds of years before Columbus.

It's all very interesting. I'm glad these videos have sparked some debate, they've been on here for a year, I wish they had more comments.

[acorntechnique]

Of course people like to have this same fantasy ideas as Von Daniken had, in preference to the simple concept that man's engineering knowledge developed over time, as every other facet of human life does, and that this knowledge became lost during the cataclysms which occurred around 20,000 years ago.

Yes, it is possible that all science and engineering knowledge was introduced by little green men from Mars, but its not considered particularly likely, or particularly plausible.

[Seanomw]

Oh I'm not saying it's the idea I'm leaning towards, i'm just saying it is a theory that can't simply discarded because it's not mainstream when dealing with an issue like this.

After all, Hancock admits his own ideas are not mainstream and claims his, and everyone else's beliefs are nothing but theories at this point.