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[mafiasty]

"The planet is fine the mankind is f....ed" George Carlin

[harryman11]

if you really want to save a forest go out and drive metal stakes in all the trees, they will continue to grow fine but if they are ever harvested it will cost the logging company more money than its worth to log in that area, or if you really want to get back at them put a non metallic stake(carbon fiber, fiberglass, or ceramic) in there so that way it will destroy their saws at the mill because they couldn't use a metal detector to find the stake

[Schlig1111]

wow. this will never be on the news.

[usergently]

We are really at the crossroad.

[boundtogetdown]

dam hippies that'll show em

[revolotus]

absolutely stunning, Stim - thank you for all your hard work, I can't wait to see the finished piece!

[mhatkinson]

"I've grown accustomed to carrying the daily weight of despair"

Really? Jensen can actually say this with a straight face?

Seriously, this is clear cutting forests we're talking about and it's a serious issue. The message that the viewer gets is: well fed bovine from the US wants to be a poet more than he wants to stop clear cutting.

So...knock it the hell off.

And, no, a clear cut is not a desert. They unmistakebly different.

[Revbone450]

You fail at life, please kill yourself

[punkhippe]

um i can understand what he s arguing, and i understand how this life view can be really depressing but does this guy rub everyone else so wrong. sure is this peatty to say, yes i recognise that im being unfair. but really i apreciate this guy but i have a feeling id hate him if i ever say him in real life

[CourteousCreep]

as bad as i sound i think its better that they cut our forest in canada then the rain forest in south africa as much as i hate to say it but it should and can all be left alone with a change in life

[theGreenAnarchist]

the technological machine cares nothing for justice or any other ethical concept. it only cares about efficiently reaching its logical end, which is to spread throughout the world and bring everything under its total control.

the only way it can be stopped is if lots of people learn to recognize what it is and actively resist it every day. standing in front of some trees and getting arrested is not good enough.

[tiptiptapable]

"the only way it can be stopped is if lots of people learn to recognize what it is and actively resist it every day."

No the on ly way it can be stopped is if the world population is reduced, Nazi style.

[Christinecedar]

Great that the truths of all truths are out for all to see.

Thank you Stimulator

[1PATRI0T]

I like this info, but this is the same info you released already - some with different screenshots, but the same audio.

[coffeebeaner]

Now I am crying

[chris3443]

This is probably more attributable to the existence of "public" property than anything else -- no investor who owned the land would be so foolish as to cut down everything. Any good business person knows it is better to be sustainable and reap profits year upon year. So no, it is not civilization that has to go, but private property that must be protected and expanded.

[themajikat]

Tragedy of the Commons my bum.

[700bees]

or you rape the land, turn a profit, by more land, rape it and turn a profit, buy more land, etc. Corporations are obligated to make as much money as possible for their shareholders. in our system a corporation cannot pass up an opportunity to make money.

[chris3443]

Show me an example of land owned by a company (not leased from a government) and just left to rot.

[700bees]

mining, deforestation.

[chris3443]

I asked for an example of a company not leasing land from the government that has used the land unsustainably. Your response, as is, tells me your approach to the issues is extremely superficial.

[700bees]

ya got me

[Hockeyjason]

What???

So all of a sudden when ever square inch is considered private property, everyone will start behaving in a sustainable manner??

HOW??

[PeterTheEvilBastard]

@Hockeyjason Becouse, real estate is FUCKING EXPENSIVE. Unless, of course, its public property, in which case it doesn't cost a dime. At least for those who have the necessary political leverage. And no, not everyone. Competition is the basis of a free market. There will be those who act the same as governments and big corps now. And without the possibility to shift costs to the public and privatize profit, they will go out of business real quick.

[Hockeyjason]

Its not that simple.

[timothyxmcveigh]

I actually agree with you. I'm a strange breed of green anarchist and free market anarchist...The views sometimes collide, but private property should infact be protected.

[murderd2death]

whens this projected to come out?

[skinnychef]

makes me cry- stim.