I for one would gladly fork over additional taxes if I could get a guarantee that they were not only 'ear-marked' for NASA and exploration research, but the money actually made it directly to NASA! The world needs wake-up and realize the uselessness of defense (and offense) funding and how important understanding that which is greater than our petty, infinitesimally-small, -insert choice meaningless adjective- planet.
i'll be honest, all of that smoke and fire would be intimidating to say the least if i had to be that close to the action. that's an epic launch though.
@RollFilmProductions if you were that close you'd be dead. I don't remember what the smoke is made of but it will kill you. so right after the shuttle launches everybody that was watching from the veiw point has to leave within 15min so they don't inhale the smoke.
@aluisious I am a Clemson college student who is trying to hold 2 scholarships who has 2 loans to pay back when i get out! On top of that interest rates have doubled thanks to Obama trying to pay for all off his BULLSHIT that doesn't even help me! I also work a part time job so I can pay for this so quit bitching to me! I am a College Student Republican and damn proud of it!
You can thank The Bankers for the thwarted efforts to get anywhere soon. Those greedy bastards and there rip off tax payer funded - Boom and Bust system - is why it will take forever to get anywhere in the Cosmos...
My chest hurts.... WTF is that BASE?? It like the end of the world is coming or something! Wooohooo I love the STS/s what a fxxking BEAST. Go Baby push through the atmosphere, push through gravity, push me into space...goddamit HEHHHEHHEHHHHE
The shuttle really was just a terrible idea to begin with. I mean wtf look at it. Every time we hit the launch button 500 million goes into the drain. It never meant to be a saturn-V replacement, and its sad that we are forced to use it as one.
@Kastedio The rocket boosters carry about 503,000 kg of fuel and are jettisoned at 46 km altitude. Translate it to liter/100km then it's 1,093,478 liters for 100 km. This might seem horribly inefficient (and it is) but keep in mind, once it achieves orbit it needs very little fuel to sustain it, and moves at about 7.7 kilometers per second. Your car can't do that ;)
@air1989 Ares 1-x was a test flight of the first stage of the Ares 1. However, the Ares 1 was canceled by the Obama administration along with the rest of the Constellation program.
@Astroholic007 Not all of it, they're still going ahead with the Orion spacecraft and a new heavy lift launcher with greater capabilities than the Saturn 5. I think NASA's biggest mistake was going with the Shuttle and letting the Air Force have their way with it, instead of just going ahead with the Apollo Applications Program.
@Astroholic007 i still cant believe obama is doing this. i think its BS. ive NEVER met a child that didnt want to see space. whos obama to shut down a legend like NASA
@mustang01man Does your child mind grasp the idea that things need to be paid for? Or do you whine every time you see SS and Medicare withheld from your check?
2011 - A period in which I'm losing faith in humanity. Concorde went in 2003 (a machine I whose elegance I admired) and now the Space Shuttle will go this year. I thought we lived in the 21th century - yet it appears humans are losing their desire to be adventurous and ambitious. If this is true - there is no point in life. I'm actually hoping for another Cold War scenario - at least then humans would regain the desire to outdo one another's marvels of engineering/technology
@mancity1000 you speak the truth. So very sad. I used to watch the concord land at Dulles next to where I worked every day at noon and take back off about the time lunch was over. Would sit on the hood of my car. All I have is photos and memories of how it sounded coming in and taking off. RIP AeroTechs. A kid at my daughter's high school when asked what 3 launchers were left in the fleet said: Nina,Pinta,Santa Maria. So sad. Discovery, Endeavor, Atlantis he did not know.
@mancity1000 our biggest problem is fossil fuels running out, most likely in the next 20 years as even saudi arabia is falling back on offshore wells. I hope one day we can figure out another way of space travel, something that dosnt involve directing explosions behind you. its the same technology that fires a bullet from a gun, a bit crude dont you think. not o bash the space shuttle, one of the most amazing machines built by man. (i vote the LHC for most impressive machine) ;]
Not exactly like that. Sound of the main engines is authentic, but the Solid Rocket Boosters sound like super-loud popcorn. Like this: watch?v=xsRuJ37kyZg
The SPL db near that at that POV range would instantly deafen you! Doesn’t mater if its 150db once it passes threshold of hearing say bye, bye to you’re hearing forever!
Last Shuttle lanch late this month and last program launch ever will be around February 2011.
@Yonkage The SPL inside the flight deck and cabin would be somewhere around 130db from what Story Musgrave mentioned on the SPACE documentary with Sam Neil. So 150db from the outside is not loud enough unless you want to go deaf at an early age.
I love the videos of the spacecraft. I'm going to America every year, I always go to the Kennedy Space Center, pity they do not have a green card to stay longer. For me the USA is the best place in the world, has no equal. Like its people, its culture and customs. Cheers!
sound has been doctored... not real pure recorded audio... You would have to have some very special microphones to record that close... I know that when the bolts blow when the boosters light, they don't sound like a thud.
T-15 - the sound suppression water system (stored in the high tank about 100 meters from the rocket) begin dumping water on the concrete chute under the main engines to absorb and scatter sound waves that can vibrate the structure. The tank is emptied in about 30 seconds.
T-10 - four :"sparkler" flares on the corners of the hold downs ignite. They are designed to burn up any stray hydrogen lurking around the engines before they are ignited.
T-6.3 - The #1 engine starts ignition process, ...
... followed by 2 and 3 at 20 millisecond intervals. The "twang" from the force of the SSMEs tilts the tip of the stack about a meter and then lets it come back to the upright position at T-0.
T-3 - three of the on-board computers are continuously checking sensors all over the shuttle, the stack and the pad, comparing their answers, and looking for anything that could signal a cutoff. At this point, one of those checks is that all three engines are operating at 90% thrust or better. ...
... T-0 - If all is well, a pyrotechnic (essentially a detonator) at the top of each SRB is fired separately by each of the computers. They ignite small rockets which shoots flames down the entire length of each SRB, igniting the fuel surfaces. Umbilicals are retracted and the hold down pyro bolts are fired.
T+8 - The shuttle clears the launch tower. Voice control transfers to Houston.
T+12 The roll program starts, rotating the shuttle to the side the stack will begin leaning into.
I forgot to allow for the consumption of solid fuel,plus the intense degree of acceleration of the shuttle through the resistance of gravity plus the atmosphere.
Sounds like a job for Spock("take your best guess!"); also initially I tried to compare the Shuttle's performance to that of an automobile,albeit a souped up one! Its good though, to break down all of these factors,it just adds to the awe of space travel...,what are we going to do next after the Shuttle program is discontinued ??
Xtremenortherner - the shuttle produces about 2,800,000 pounds of thrust at lift-off, which is equal to approximately 12 million horsepower. Ya I know. Incredible! Like you, I'd LOVE to be on board of the shuttle.
@Dan31387 Thanx for the answer! I guess 12,000,000 hp is a bit excessive for highway travel...,next question,"how many gallons of fuel & at what cost?"
@xtremenortherner Each solid rocket booster carries over 1 million pounds of solid propellant, and the main external tank carries over 500,000 gallons of liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen, all of which gets burnt off during the launch. And finally, the cost for the entire mission including the launch is around 550 million big ones.
@Dan31387 Thanks for taking the time & effort to answer my questions...,just one more...,but I think I can figure this one out! As far as "mileage" goes,I know the shuttle travels about 240 miles in altitude & maybe 1000 downrange before jettisoning the boosters...,so's that should be about 400gallons per mile?!
@xtremenortherner Ya no problem! Ya I haven't done the math myself but you're probably in the ballpark. You have to think they are using enough fuel to launch 4.5 million pounds (shuttle and boosters and the tank) into orbit and to a orbit speed of almost 18000 mph. That's just incredible by any standard!
@xtremenortherner The only for sure figure I could come up with was that after solid rocket booster seperation, 2 min into the flight and almost 3000 mph, the 3 main engines on the orbiter drain about 1/2 a ton of liquid fuel per SECOND from the main external fuel tank. Wow!
@Dan31387 The Saturn V Burnt 15 tons of fuel per second at lift off (5 tons Kersosene 10 tons liquid Oxygen) to produce the equivalent of around 160 000 000 horsepower.
What an incredible piece of footage,and from a great angle,too! Man-oh-man,I've driven some fast,powerful cars in my day...,but they would be nothin' like sitting in that shuttle cockpit...,I'd love to throttle that thing up!! WoooooooooooWhooooooooooo!!
How much horsepower does that ship generate on lift-off?
If you have a logitech X-540 surround sound system hooked up to your comuter. turn up your volume to max out & just sit & wait. It takes a sound volume of just 200 decibels to kill you.
It is a fact that from a at 40 feet from launch the heat will kill you, at 400 feet the sound will kill you and at 4000 feet the alligators who don't like the rumblings will grumpily kill you out of spite for being disturbed in their beauty sleep. The location where the press & news media watch the launches was weighed in at 120 decibels. Thats still 3& 1/2 miles away.
Mmmm, but not as good as she could have been: if NASA had the money & time there would have been a safer, cheaper option, but the military wanted an orbiter asap, so they had to stick on the heat shields as fragile tiles & 2 dangerous rockets instead of the genuinely reuseable version NASA had intended.
@Biscuitchris7again very true... other engineering Apollo aspects worth mentioning are the incredible "command module" with its15 miles of complex internal wiring and the immense Saturn 5 rocket which was not only much taller then the shuttle, noticably louder but also the only booster capable of sending nearly 50 tons the 240,000 miles to the moon
Oh man, I went to go see this today in a huge imax theatre and i swear to goodness, it felt like i was really there ! I was fully surrounded with bass !
I remember number between 146-160 dB. But I´m not sure, if it was measured with sound supression system (that falling water), so it can more or less....
At that close, its gonna be hard to tell if its real or not, no human has ever heard it from that close (I think the closest anyone has ever been is around a mile, some KSC people stay in very close for possible rescure work)
I actually doubt this is the real audio. They add all kinds of crap to the audio track. A space station IMAX at the air and space museum added fake thrust effects to the Soyuz cargo spacecraft, and to the shuttle firing its thrusters. It's like phony explosions in WW I trench warfare documentaries.
Lots of good comments on Shuttle Sound Supression system, etc. On a historical note, the first Shuttle launch, STS-1 in April 1981 nearly suffered catastrophic failure at moment of liftoff due to much great sound overpressure on the vehicle than expected. STS-2 and all subsequent launches had greatly enhanced water sound supression systems added to prevent a re-occurence.
Just before launch (T-10?) what is the purpose of the vapors or smoke aimed towards the 3 main engines? It looks like 6 white lines? I know about the 'space shuttle main engine hydrogen burnoff system' Thanks
Thanks for the reply, but I already knew about the Sound Suppression System. I was referring to the 6 white nozzles surronding the SSME that release vapor which is Liquid Nitrogen turning to gas and venting.
if you know about the hydrogen burnoff system, then why ask? that's what that is. it just makes sure that there are no leaking fumes building up before main engine start, otherwise there would be an uncontrolled explosion that could damage the engine bells
Hey pig, consider this; Saturn V launches were even more intense then shuttle launches however there are and never were cameras on the pad.
Nasa instead used fiber optic bundles, one end of the fiber is inside a camera like housing on the pad with a 3" thick quartz glass window for its "front"
The fiber then runs hundreds of feet away and goes into a buried concrete box that has another box inside it (suspended by springs for shock protection), inside the inner box is the actual camera.
because they must not block the exhaust. The exhaust is led away by a vertical concrete wall. If they placed a pool of water under, the exhaust would have nowhere to run and it could damage the pad and the orbiter. (sorry if spelling is wrong)
The water is called the Sound Suppresion System. It absorbs and dissipates the acoustic shock from the engines and solid rocket boosters. If not there, the sound would literally shake the shuttle apart.
It actually has nothing to do with channeling the exhaust or heat.
My question's not what the water is for; it's why they dump it on the pad right before launch. Why can't they just build a big swimming pool-type thing and keep it filled?
Surface tension of water would cause acoustic waves to bounce back up to the stack. Since flowing water is subject to gravity pulling it apart, there's much less surface tension, hence greater shock absorbency.
In addition, you may want to search for SOUND SUPPRESSION WATER SYSTEM TEST (posted by NASAtechnology) here in Youtube, you would see a nice view of the water system being tested...
You are right, but that water, apart from the main purpose of absorbing part of the sound energy, also serves to protect some parts of the launch pad (including the platform and the bottom of the flame trench) from the blast. In the past (I can't remember which mission) the vertical walls of the flame trench, which being vertical cannot be submerged in water, suffered heavy damage and had to undergo extensive rebuilding.
No dude the loudest sound ever heard, maybe even louder than the nuclear bomb was the saturn V with theire F-1 Engines. In the village wich is close to the launch pad crushs the shockwave the windows and in the launch controll centre 2km under the ground the plaster begans to crumble... Big Bang Guys, a big bang
Guards is correct -from 60 miles away a shuttle launch may or may not be heard (based on weather conditions) however Saturn V launches could be heard and felt from 140 miles away.
On earthquake measuring devices over 1200 miles away (New York state) all Saturn V launches were clearly picked up.
At the first Saturn V launch the CBS press building (4 miles away) was severly damaged by acoustic and seismic shock -Walter Cronkite said "I've never in my life expirienced anything so shocking".
Source #1 -"Secrets of the universe" (trivia binders) guide to the cosmos (category 7) by IMP -card 3 (Saturn 5) states on its cover "During the first Saturn 5 launch, the air pressure wave that it generated was detected 1,100 miles away by the Lamont-Docherty Geological Observatory in Palisades New York.
Source #2 -In Jesse Kercheval's book "Space" she explains that she was 150 miles away at summer camp during the launch of Apollo 11 and was not aware of the event had it not been for the lake she was practicing water ballet in to suddenly have bizarre ripples akin to the lake looking like "a martini in some nervous drinkers hand".
When they stopped the blaring ballet music she could hear it and said "I knew right away what that sound was, only a Saturn V sounds like that"
As far as #3 -there was a 90 minute PBS special in 94'(?) with Walter Cronkite reminscing about his career, they covered the Kennedy assasinations...MLK's death...Vietnam etc. however he said "at that first great unmanned Saturn launch I was completely caught off guard...I've never experienced anything so shockingly raw and powerful before"
...with regards to #1 -Dr. William Donn from the same observatory also stated that "The only man-made sounds that exceeded the liftoff noise of the Saturn V were nuclear explosions and added that the only natural sound on record that exceeded the noise of the Saturn V engines was the fall of the Great Siberian Meteorite in 1883".
Source book "Stages to Saturn" by Bilstein (pg. 357)
the Saturn V had over 7.8 million lbs of thrust in the first stage alone which is more then the shuttle, the combustion process of the F-1 liquid fuel engines combined with the fact that they are physically close to each other create a unified acoustic source which is roughly the equivilent of 15 tons of TNT going off per second, the shuttles is slightly less at 10 tons/sec.
Saturn V launches were easily heard over 100 miles away while in most cases you could not hear the shuttle from 60.
From what i understood during the night launch the saturn v light up orlando like the sun for a few moments. That was over 40 miles away... I saw night launch of shuttle from coca beach but couldnt imagine saturn v...
"The bottom stage was not responsible for TLI, so no, you are not correct."
When did I say it was....oh yeah, I didn't. Yes. First stage is not responsible for TLI, but without it they would never get to TLI. See, perfect example of being clear, meaning what you mean over what you say, and vice versa.
Ok, well the Saturn V first stage did have slightly more thrust than the shuttle but the first stage does not even take it to LEO. It's akin to running the boosters and shuttle motor where the boosters drop off before LEO is achieved.
Ya dig? Lets just end this conversation because I think we each know what the other is talking about and all the typing to clear up a simple communication error isn't worth it.
That pretty heavy!!!...U definitely broke it up...LOL!!!....Question: Are the shuttle engines operating at thrust upon take-off or are they sitting at idle until the shuttle arrives in space then used to reach station? PEACE!!
that launch was from IMAX Space Station
geomodelrailroader 5 days ago
There are many reasons why that isn't possible.
Astroholic007 1 month ago
If we ever recover from the recession they might bring the space shuttle back.
cancerman50 1 month ago
This aint imax..
ZeroController 2 months ago
I for one would gladly fork over additional taxes if I could get a guarantee that they were not only 'ear-marked' for NASA and exploration research, but the money actually made it directly to NASA! The world needs wake-up and realize the uselessness of defense (and offense) funding and how important understanding that which is greater than our petty, infinitesimally-small, -insert choice meaningless adjective- planet.
JJWPE1 3 months ago
imagine what the wright brothers would do seeing this!
asshatnowhere159 3 months ago
Man those srb's have some kick when they start up.
ADEdge 4 months ago
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wow beautifully american space shuttle,,,
better than ussr russia CHEAP buran shuttle
bestamerica 4 months ago 3
i'll be honest, all of that smoke and fire would be intimidating to say the least if i had to be that close to the action. that's an epic launch though.
RollFilmProductions 4 months ago
@RollFilmProductions if you were that close you'd be dead. I don't remember what the smoke is made of but it will kill you. so right after the shuttle launches everybody that was watching from the veiw point has to leave within 15min so they don't inhale the smoke.
yoyoyoyoshua 3 months ago
@aluisious I am a Clemson college student who is trying to hold 2 scholarships who has 2 loans to pay back when i get out! On top of that interest rates have doubled thanks to Obama trying to pay for all off his BULLSHIT that doesn't even help me! I also work a part time job so I can pay for this so quit bitching to me! I am a College Student Republican and damn proud of it!
benjaming725 4 months ago
You can thank The Bankers for the thwarted efforts to get anywhere soon. Those greedy bastards and there rip off tax payer funded - Boom and Bust system - is why it will take forever to get anywhere in the Cosmos...
ludwigvonsteampole1 4 months ago
jesus christ !!!!! what a sound !!!!
crazyfox564 5 months ago
That is a lot of horses pulling that cart....
patton303 5 months ago
So, what happened to the camera?
FLIGHTCOMPANY 5 months ago
Is this from "Huble" or "Space Station"?
cancerman50 5 months ago
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MrJimboygwapo 6 months ago
clicked unlike bottom . too short lol
usukker 6 months ago
When those solids lite, serious shit.
jazzguitar2010 6 months ago
Firepower.
jazzguitar2010 6 months ago
Thunderbirds are go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JoeConcerts 7 months ago
Mother of GOD!!!!
My chest hurts.... WTF is that BASE?? It like the end of the world is coming or something! Wooohooo I love the STS/s what a fxxking BEAST. Go Baby push through the atmosphere, push through gravity, push me into space...goddamit HEHHHEHHEHHHHE
ndugumuzana 8 months ago
gonna miss these monsters
BMWM3GTRLOVER 8 months ago
fuck, that sound gives me an orgasm.
hardstyle905 8 months ago
The shuttle really was just a terrible idea to begin with. I mean wtf look at it. Every time we hit the launch button 500 million goes into the drain. It never meant to be a saturn-V replacement, and its sad that we are forced to use it as one.
TopGunMan 8 months ago
Shouldn't have listened to this with an LX-3000 headset on near full volume. Hearing = ruined.
tornadochaserX 9 months ago
7 people were standing directly under the shuttle when it took off
BUILDINGWITHBULLION 9 months ago
how many liters for 100km?
Kastedio 9 months ago
@Kastedio The rocket boosters carry about 503,000 kg of fuel and are jettisoned at 46 km altitude. Translate it to liter/100km then it's 1,093,478 liters for 100 km. This might seem horribly inefficient (and it is) but keep in mind, once it achieves orbit it needs very little fuel to sustain it, and moves at about 7.7 kilometers per second. Your car can't do that ;)
hardstyle905 8 months ago
@hardstyle905 o_o amazing thanks
Kastedio 8 months ago
Ares I-X are next to fly i wounder what they will be like. Great video! Thanks for the post.
air1989 10 months ago 6
@air1989 Ares 1-x was a test flight of the first stage of the Ares 1. However, the Ares 1 was canceled by the Obama administration along with the rest of the Constellation program.
Astroholic007 10 months ago 15
@Astroholic007 Not all of it, they're still going ahead with the Orion spacecraft and a new heavy lift launcher with greater capabilities than the Saturn 5. I think NASA's biggest mistake was going with the Shuttle and letting the Air Force have their way with it, instead of just going ahead with the Apollo Applications Program.
argebarse 9 months ago
@Astroholic007
ummm... that´s not "real audio". it´s hollywood IMAX theatre spectacular special foley engineered audio. nicely made, though!
ttphone 7 months ago 3
@Astroholic007 just another great thing obama has done for this country...... NOT!
benjaming725 7 months ago 2
@benjaming725 It's you whining faggots who don't want to pay taxes.
aluisious 4 months ago
@Astroholic007 i still cant believe obama is doing this. i think its BS. ive NEVER met a child that didnt want to see space. whos obama to shut down a legend like NASA
mustang01man 6 months ago
@mustang01man Does your child mind grasp the idea that things need to be paid for? Or do you whine every time you see SS and Medicare withheld from your check?
aluisious 4 months ago
amazing
MakamanProductions 11 months ago
"real sound"
there are videos with fake sound or wtf?!!?!?
andrepe37 11 months ago
.6 speed, from what i can tell.
johnmanigold 11 months ago
and thats how the camera was destroyed
CardShark989 11 months ago
2011 - A period in which I'm losing faith in humanity. Concorde went in 2003 (a machine I whose elegance I admired) and now the Space Shuttle will go this year. I thought we lived in the 21th century - yet it appears humans are losing their desire to be adventurous and ambitious. If this is true - there is no point in life. I'm actually hoping for another Cold War scenario - at least then humans would regain the desire to outdo one another's marvels of engineering/technology
mancity1000 11 months ago 3
@mancity1000 you speak the truth. So very sad. I used to watch the concord land at Dulles next to where I worked every day at noon and take back off about the time lunch was over. Would sit on the hood of my car. All I have is photos and memories of how it sounded coming in and taking off. RIP AeroTechs. A kid at my daughter's high school when asked what 3 launchers were left in the fleet said: Nina,Pinta,Santa Maria. So sad. Discovery, Endeavor, Atlantis he did not know.
ninjav8r 11 months ago
@mancity1000 our biggest problem is fossil fuels running out, most likely in the next 20 years as even saudi arabia is falling back on offshore wells. I hope one day we can figure out another way of space travel, something that dosnt involve directing explosions behind you. its the same technology that fires a bullet from a gun, a bit crude dont you think. not o bash the space shuttle, one of the most amazing machines built by man. (i vote the LHC for most impressive machine) ;]
Fiercefighter2 11 months ago
what an fucking amzing sound hell yea
XOROHN 11 months ago
Not exactly like that. Sound of the main engines is authentic, but the Solid Rocket Boosters sound like super-loud popcorn. Like this: watch?v=xsRuJ37kyZg
maksphoto78 11 months ago
watching this gives me almost the same feeling i got when i was a kid watching the original batmobile fire up with the flames shooting out the back.
1965cyclone39 1 year ago
@1965cyclone39 i used to love the batman tv show! and that car
gdub520 1 year ago
my speakers are broken now. thanks alot, nasa... hehe.
1965cyclone39 1 year ago
wow
yuriogy1 1 year ago
The SPL db near that at that POV range would instantly deafen you! Doesn’t mater if its 150db once it passes threshold of hearing say bye, bye to you’re hearing forever!
Last Shuttle lanch late this month and last program launch ever will be around February 2011.
EmpireLS56KW 1 year ago
@EmpireLS56KW
Had my speakers up all the way. Not quite 150db, but pretty damn close!!
Yonkage 1 year ago
@Yonkage The SPL inside the flight deck and cabin would be somewhere around 130db from what Story Musgrave mentioned on the SPACE documentary with Sam Neil. So 150db from the outside is not loud enough unless you want to go deaf at an early age.
EmpireLS56KW 1 year ago
some kind of rockets derived from the shutttle concept
TWproductions5667844 1 year ago
If you were standing where the camera is you'd be dead.........more than 194Db will kill a human being.
stegatops 1 year ago 2
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I love the videos of the spacecraft. I'm going to America every year, I always go to the Kennedy Space Center, pity they do not have a green card to stay longer. For me the USA is the best place in the world, has no equal. Like its people, its culture and customs. Cheers!
maurocauduro 1 year ago
0:17 cool~!!!
nickster2230 1 year ago
OOOOO SHINY MUST TUCH SHINY!!!!!
TVCityVlogs 1 year ago
The sound is invredible.
AlexGlogerTV 1 year ago
EVEN BETTER WITH THE SUBWOOFER!
MrTrumpet96 1 year ago
what was at 0:16 ?
LightningRix98 1 year ago
It's the ignition of SRBs. (Solid Rocket Boosters, the two white rockets)
akopacsi 1 year ago
sound has been doctored... not real pure recorded audio... You would have to have some very special microphones to record that close... I know that when the bolts blow when the boosters light, they don't sound like a thud.
spudgunster 1 year ago
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWESOME!
1931chevrolet 1 year ago
OMG the sound is incredible
AlexGlogerTV 1 year ago
This is POWER ! Even the best IMAX theater cannot do justice to the immense power unleashed here. Quite a spectacle !
bsod4u2 1 year ago
T-15 - the sound suppression water system (stored in the high tank about 100 meters from the rocket) begin dumping water on the concrete chute under the main engines to absorb and scatter sound waves that can vibrate the structure. The tank is emptied in about 30 seconds.
T-10 - four :"sparkler" flares on the corners of the hold downs ignite. They are designed to burn up any stray hydrogen lurking around the engines before they are ignited.
T-6.3 - The #1 engine starts ignition process, ...
puncheex 1 year ago
... followed by 2 and 3 at 20 millisecond intervals. The "twang" from the force of the SSMEs tilts the tip of the stack about a meter and then lets it come back to the upright position at T-0.
T-3 - three of the on-board computers are continuously checking sensors all over the shuttle, the stack and the pad, comparing their answers, and looking for anything that could signal a cutoff. At this point, one of those checks is that all three engines are operating at 90% thrust or better. ...
puncheex 1 year ago
... T-0 - If all is well, a pyrotechnic (essentially a detonator) at the top of each SRB is fired separately by each of the computers. They ignite small rockets which shoots flames down the entire length of each SRB, igniting the fuel surfaces. Umbilicals are retracted and the hold down pyro bolts are fired.
T+8 - The shuttle clears the launch tower. Voice control transfers to Houston.
T+12 The roll program starts, rotating the shuttle to the side the stack will begin leaning into.
puncheex 1 year ago
You really cant grasp how much power those engines deliver until you hear this, I like the low rumble of the SRB's
AerospaceTech 1 year ago
i wish i could just bring the wright brothers to the futur to show them what they led up to. could you imagin the look on their faces!
asshatnowhere159 1 year ago 3
@asshatnowhere159 theyd kill u for fucking with history
thetrolone 1 year ago
Obamas a peice of shit for closing down NASA for his stupid tax raises
phazonprime13 1 year ago
oh no!!!!!! smoke everywhere!!!!!
DjLegoLas1 1 year ago
@ Astroholic007
Which mission does this footage come from?
GeorgeEdo 1 year ago
why do they have to retire this shuttles i didn't even see the last 100 launches waaaaa.
SaberTanker22 1 year ago
I stand in awe.
kuapo 1 year ago
I forgot to allow for the consumption of solid fuel,plus the intense degree of acceleration of the shuttle through the resistance of gravity plus the atmosphere.
Sounds like a job for Spock("take your best guess!"); also initially I tried to compare the Shuttle's performance to that of an automobile,albeit a souped up one! Its good though, to break down all of these factors,it just adds to the awe of space travel...,what are we going to do next after the Shuttle program is discontinued ??
xtremenortherner 1 year ago
Xtremenortherner - the shuttle produces about 2,800,000 pounds of thrust at lift-off, which is equal to approximately 12 million horsepower. Ya I know. Incredible! Like you, I'd LOVE to be on board of the shuttle.
Dan31387 1 year ago
@Dan31387 Thanx for the answer! I guess 12,000,000 hp is a bit excessive for highway travel...,next question,"how many gallons of fuel & at what cost?"
xtremenortherner 1 year ago
@xtremenortherner Each solid rocket booster carries over 1 million pounds of solid propellant, and the main external tank carries over 500,000 gallons of liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen, all of which gets burnt off during the launch. And finally, the cost for the entire mission including the launch is around 550 million big ones.
Dan31387 1 year ago
@Dan31387 Thanks for taking the time & effort to answer my questions...,just one more...,but I think I can figure this one out! As far as "mileage" goes,I know the shuttle travels about 240 miles in altitude & maybe 1000 downrange before jettisoning the boosters...,so's that should be about 400gallons per mile?!
xtremenortherner 1 year ago
@xtremenortherner Ya no problem! Ya I haven't done the math myself but you're probably in the ballpark. You have to think they are using enough fuel to launch 4.5 million pounds (shuttle and boosters and the tank) into orbit and to a orbit speed of almost 18000 mph. That's just incredible by any standard!
Dan31387 1 year ago
@xtremenortherner The only for sure figure I could come up with was that after solid rocket booster seperation, 2 min into the flight and almost 3000 mph, the 3 main engines on the orbiter drain about 1/2 a ton of liquid fuel per SECOND from the main external fuel tank. Wow!
Dan31387 1 year ago
@Dan31387 The Saturn V Burnt 15 tons of fuel per second at lift off (5 tons Kersosene 10 tons liquid Oxygen) to produce the equivalent of around 160 000 000 horsepower.
schumifan78 1 year ago
What an incredible piece of footage,and from a great angle,too! Man-oh-man,I've driven some fast,powerful cars in my day...,but they would be nothin' like sitting in that shuttle cockpit...,I'd love to throttle that thing up!! WoooooooooooWhooooooooooo!!
How much horsepower does that ship generate on lift-off?
xtremenortherner 1 year ago
This'll be useful once TDNevertrade complies!
tytlyf 1 year ago
dudes i cant wait to see the movie Hubble 3D...it comes out in mid march 2010 its going to be such an awsome Imax 3d movie. Im so excited for it!
its about the last mission to hubble in may 2009 to fix the telescope for the last time!!!
LOOK FOR THE ADVERTISEMENT ON YOUTUBE!!!!!!
mophead319 1 year ago
Reminds me of my old boiler firing up but now have I have a nice 'A' category...with thanks to the 'scrappage scheme'.
rustingblue 1 year ago
So this is what it would sound those last seconds if you were there and cover your ears :)
Armuotas 1 year ago
If you have a logitech X-540 surround sound system hooked up to your comuter. turn up your volume to max out & just sit & wait. It takes a sound volume of just 200 decibels to kill you.
Here is why...
ewtng 1 year ago 3
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It is a fact that from a at 40 feet from launch the heat will kill you, at 400 feet the sound will kill you and at 4000 feet the alligators who don't like the rumblings will grumpily kill you out of spite for being disturbed in their beauty sleep. The location where the press & news media watch the launches was weighed in at 120 decibels. Thats still 3& 1/2 miles away.
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ewtng 1 year ago
best machine ever made by mankind
sad she will be soon retired
mooora777 2 years ago 135
Mmmm, but not as good as she could have been: if NASA had the money & time there would have been a safer, cheaper option, but the military wanted an orbiter asap, so they had to stick on the heat shields as fragile tiles & 2 dangerous rockets instead of the genuinely reuseable version NASA had intended.
anthonythirteen 1 year ago 3
@mooora777 Indeed. Will be hard to beat :-(
lcf34 1 year ago
@mooora777 what do you mean she will retire ??
ggeek101 1 year ago
@mooora777:
Best machine? Ha! Not by a moonshot!
tgrockhead 1 year ago
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@mooora777: Best machine ever? Ha! Not by a moonshot.
tgrockhead 1 year ago
@mooora777 i still consider the Saturn V better.
HunterPhenomMakoy 1 year ago
@mooora777- I'd argue that the Apollo Lunar Module takes that prize....but the Shuttle is up in the ranks.
Biscuitchris7again 1 year ago
@Biscuitchris7again very true... other engineering Apollo aspects worth mentioning are the incredible "command module" with its15 miles of complex internal wiring and the immense Saturn 5 rocket which was not only much taller then the shuttle, noticably louder but also the only booster capable of sending nearly 50 tons the 240,000 miles to the moon
MightySaturn5 1 year ago
@mooora777 retired? what will they use after the shuttles are retired?
PEEWEEK707 1 year ago
@mooora777 To be replaced by better machines. =)
dlouis95 1 year ago
@mooora777 Best machine after the Saturn V ...
schumifan78 11 months ago
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Fiercefighter2 11 months ago
@mooora777 I agree, At least we have the new beed of Plasma Rockets on the way.
NANOFORGE 10 months ago
@mooora777 I agree, wholeheartedly
NANOFORGE 8 months ago
@mooora777 what?
zZ0MBi3Zz 7 months ago
When the main engines ignited it was like 3 BOMBS went off back to back to back!!!!! Thank you very, very much!!
javaughnarion 2 years ago
Beautiful
talireki 2 years ago 3
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Wow, they can do so much with CGI these days. That looked so real. :-)
hurricanetrack 2 years ago
@hurricanetrack ... it is real.
ironmagma 2 years ago
I know- I was being sarcastic. No offense meant at all, just trying to be funny.
hurricanetrack 2 years ago
and again....VROOOOOOOM!
hirsebrey 2 years ago
Around 0:22 or 0:23 you can really hear the sound of the thrust chamber as if it were a hose or nozzle, spouting that ignited LOX.
whatthehellbrosef 2 years ago
watching and hearing the launch in an IMAX theater is an experience to behold.
upuautiii 2 years ago 42
@upuautiii its better than the real thing!!!!!!!!!!!
thetrolone 1 year ago
@upuautiii Watching and hearing a launch in real life is another one. ;)
I'm really sad I never got to.
IzackN 1 year ago
@upuautiii You are absolutely right. I'll never forget it.
tungah 11 months ago
does any one know were i can get a space shuttle second hand,..................CAUSE THATS WHAT I NEED WHEN IM LATE FOR WORK!
raymondrayban 2 years ago 3
hahah that's pro.. =D
afterSHOcKsStudios 2 years ago
...RUN!
ateicher 2 years ago 2
another awesome video elliot
dragonriderjohn 2 years ago
Oh man, I went to go see this today in a huge imax theatre and i swear to goodness, it felt like i was really there ! I was fully surrounded with bass !
TheSuperProfessional 2 years ago
Anyone know how many decibels those engines create at ground zero?
steverockstar69 2 years ago
I remember number between 146-160 dB. But I´m not sure, if it was measured with sound supression system (that falling water), so it can more or less....
Chuckee737 2 years ago
Must be PRETTY loud ^^. For comparison: It is said that the ignition sound shock wave of Ariane 5 could kill you even a kilometer away (iirc).
Less0r 2 years ago
Haha you've GOT to send me a link to a reputable source saying that.
Boy75402 2 years ago
kool video even if they dded a few audio it is still very inpressive
frankiemo100 2 years ago
At that close, its gonna be hard to tell if its real or not, no human has ever heard it from that close (I think the closest anyone has ever been is around a mile, some KSC people stay in very close for possible rescure work)
Zoomer30 2 years ago
ask an astronaut ;) i think they wehre the closest (as long they were onboard the shuttle xD)
hotgas101 2 years ago
I actually doubt this is the real audio. They add all kinds of crap to the audio track. A space station IMAX at the air and space museum added fake thrust effects to the Soyuz cargo spacecraft, and to the shuttle firing its thrusters. It's like phony explosions in WW I trench warfare documentaries.
curea229 2 years ago 5
Lots of good comments on Shuttle Sound Supression system, etc. On a historical note, the first Shuttle launch, STS-1 in April 1981 nearly suffered catastrophic failure at moment of liftoff due to much great sound overpressure on the vehicle than expected. STS-2 and all subsequent launches had greatly enhanced water sound supression systems added to prevent a re-occurence.
Tharsis320 2 years ago
Just before launch (T-10?) what is the purpose of the vapors or smoke aimed towards the 3 main engines? It looks like 6 white lines? I know about the 'space shuttle main engine hydrogen burnoff system' Thanks
HNDNV07 2 years ago
it is called sound supression system. please read the previous comments.
feynmanizma 2 years ago
Thanks for the reply, but I already knew about the Sound Suppression System. I was referring to the 6 white nozzles surronding the SSME that release vapor which is Liquid Nitrogen turning to gas and venting.
HNDNV07 2 years ago
The only vapor that I see is the LOX condensation exiting the tubing that helps cool the bell.
Liquid Oxygen (LOX) is pumped through the bell to help cool it. What you're seeing is condensation in the form of water vapor.
Other than that, I dont know what other "vapor" you're referring too.
ShepperdOneill 2 years ago
It is the Nitrogen that is used to purge the fuel/oxygen pump of the SSME.
flanksteak1 2 years ago
Helium
mach25man 2 years ago
Thank You.
flanksteak1 2 years ago
if you know about the hydrogen burnoff system, then why ask? that's what that is. it just makes sure that there are no leaking fumes building up before main engine start, otherwise there would be an uncontrolled explosion that could damage the engine bells
crazybastard82 2 years ago
how in the hell didnt the cammera mealt i no he water supretion system was in place but once the flames get above the pad how didnt it mealt
pigmouth22 2 years ago
Hey pig, consider this; Saturn V launches were even more intense then shuttle launches however there are and never were cameras on the pad.
Nasa instead used fiber optic bundles, one end of the fiber is inside a camera like housing on the pad with a 3" thick quartz glass window for its "front"
The fiber then runs hundreds of feet away and goes into a buried concrete box that has another box inside it (suspended by springs for shock protection), inside the inner box is the actual camera.
MightySaturn5 2 years ago
*meant to say "there are not and never were"
MightySaturn5 2 years ago
Bunches of HORSEPOWER!
SubiesAreForMe 2 years ago
Aroung 78Million Horses
hziggles 2 years ago
The start of the main engines kind of sound like a gunshot at 00:08.
chellysell 2 years ago
Can anybody explain why they dump water on the pad right before launch?
I'm aware that it's intended to suppress the sound... But why can't they just have a big pool of water under the pad at all times?
UdallIn72 2 years ago
because they must not block the exhaust. The exhaust is led away by a vertical concrete wall. If they placed a pool of water under, the exhaust would have nowhere to run and it could damage the pad and the orbiter. (sorry if spelling is wrong)
joachim2464 2 years ago
The water is called the Sound Suppresion System. It absorbs and dissipates the acoustic shock from the engines and solid rocket boosters. If not there, the sound would literally shake the shuttle apart.
It actually has nothing to do with channeling the exhaust or heat.
boman5 2 years ago 2
My question's not what the water is for; it's why they dump it on the pad right before launch. Why can't they just build a big swimming pool-type thing and keep it filled?
UdallIn72 2 years ago
Surface tension of water would cause acoustic waves to bounce back up to the stack. Since flowing water is subject to gravity pulling it apart, there's much less surface tension, hence greater shock absorbency.
boman5 2 years ago 3
I remember them saying that it's around 180 decibels WITH the water. Makes you wonder how many decibels it would be without the water.
Apollo580 2 years ago
Oh!
That makes sense.
Thanks.
UdallIn72 2 years ago
In addition, you may want to search for SOUND SUPPRESSION WATER SYSTEM TEST (posted by NASAtechnology) here in Youtube, you would see a nice view of the water system being tested...
Elhombresombra 2 years ago
You are right, but that water, apart from the main purpose of absorbing part of the sound energy, also serves to protect some parts of the launch pad (including the platform and the bottom of the flame trench) from the blast. In the past (I can't remember which mission) the vertical walls of the flame trench, which being vertical cannot be submerged in water, suffered heavy damage and had to undergo extensive rebuilding.
Elhombresombra 2 years ago
chutaazzzzoo
ALFACENTAURO111 2 years ago
nice camera angle!!!
garybeta 2 years ago
No dude the loudest sound ever heard, maybe even louder than the nuclear bomb was the saturn V with theire F-1 Engines. In the village wich is close to the launch pad crushs the shockwave the windows and in the launch controll centre 2km under the ground the plaster begans to crumble... Big Bang Guys, a big bang
KaY
GuardsQB 2 years ago
Guards is correct -from 60 miles away a shuttle launch may or may not be heard (based on weather conditions) however Saturn V launches could be heard and felt from 140 miles away.
On earthquake measuring devices over 1200 miles away (New York state) all Saturn V launches were clearly picked up.
At the first Saturn V launch the CBS press building (4 miles away) was severly damaged by acoustic and seismic shock -Walter Cronkite said "I've never in my life expirienced anything so shocking".
MightySaturn5 2 years ago
Could you send me your sources? I'd like to confirm that amazing statement.
demonikreaper 2 years ago
Source #1 -"Secrets of the universe" (trivia binders) guide to the cosmos (category 7) by IMP -card 3 (Saturn 5) states on its cover "During the first Saturn 5 launch, the air pressure wave that it generated was detected 1,100 miles away by the Lamont-Docherty Geological Observatory in Palisades New York.
MightySaturn5 2 years ago
Source #2 -In Jesse Kercheval's book "Space" she explains that she was 150 miles away at summer camp during the launch of Apollo 11 and was not aware of the event had it not been for the lake she was practicing water ballet in to suddenly have bizarre ripples akin to the lake looking like "a martini in some nervous drinkers hand".
When they stopped the blaring ballet music she could hear it and said "I knew right away what that sound was, only a Saturn V sounds like that"
MightySaturn5 2 years ago
As far as #3 -there was a 90 minute PBS special in 94'(?) with Walter Cronkite reminscing about his career, they covered the Kennedy assasinations...MLK's death...Vietnam etc. however he said "at that first great unmanned Saturn launch I was completely caught off guard...I've never experienced anything so shockingly raw and powerful before"
MightySaturn5 2 years ago
...with regards to #1 -Dr. William Donn from the same observatory also stated that "The only man-made sounds that exceeded the liftoff noise of the Saturn V were nuclear explosions and added that the only natural sound on record that exceeded the noise of the Saturn V engines was the fall of the Great Siberian Meteorite in 1883".
Source book "Stages to Saturn" by Bilstein (pg. 357)
MightySaturn5 2 years ago
Why would SaturnV be louder when it had less thrust than the shuttle?
flanksteak1 2 years ago
the Saturn V had over 7.8 million lbs of thrust in the first stage alone which is more then the shuttle, the combustion process of the F-1 liquid fuel engines combined with the fact that they are physically close to each other create a unified acoustic source which is roughly the equivilent of 15 tons of TNT going off per second, the shuttles is slightly less at 10 tons/sec.
Saturn V launches were easily heard over 100 miles away while in most cases you could not hear the shuttle from 60.
MightySaturn5 2 years ago
From what i understood during the night launch the saturn v light up orlando like the sun for a few moments. That was over 40 miles away... I saw night launch of shuttle from coca beach but couldnt imagine saturn v...
fairlanejay 2 years ago
Other way around. The Saturn V had to get the spacecraft out of Earth's orbit. Shuttle never goes out of orbit so it requires less thrust.
Biscuitchris7again 2 years ago 3
The bottom stage was not responsible for TLI, so no, you are not correct.
flanksteak1 2 years ago
now bear with me, youtube sucks when it comes to comment formatting...
Biscuitchris7again 2 years ago 2
Okay...seeing as though the comment box hates the comment, I'm going to have to break it up.
You're not being clear about what you say vs. what you mean.
Saturn V - (First Stage displacement): 34 MN (7.64 million pounds of force) [Thrust]
Space Shuttle (2 stages & total displacement) - 30.16 MN (6.78 Million pounds of Force) [Thrust]
Saturn V Force [Thrust] > Space Shuttle Force [Thrust]
Biscuitchris7again 2 years ago 3
"The bottom stage was not responsible for TLI, so no, you are not correct."
When did I say it was....oh yeah, I didn't. Yes. First stage is not responsible for TLI, but without it they would never get to TLI. See, perfect example of being clear, meaning what you mean over what you say, and vice versa.
Biscuitchris7again 2 years ago 2
LOL
Ok, well the Saturn V first stage did have slightly more thrust than the shuttle but the first stage does not even take it to LEO. It's akin to running the boosters and shuttle motor where the boosters drop off before LEO is achieved.
Ya dig? Lets just end this conversation because I think we each know what the other is talking about and all the typing to clear up a simple communication error isn't worth it.
flanksteak1 2 years ago
That pretty heavy!!!...U definitely broke it up...LOL!!!....Question: Are the shuttle engines operating at thrust upon take-off or are they sitting at idle until the shuttle arrives in space then used to reach station? PEACE!!
zyruemusic 2 years ago