It might be true it might not. People WTF alright it makes no god damn difference them crazy ppl belong in prison. I don't care the reason unless it's self defense you shouldn't be killin anyone, also for all you know they could have burried the bodies that supposedly are there. Manson and his followers were crazy ppl. Shoulda bean institutionalized from the start.
how the hell almost 40 yrs later can a cadaver sniffing dog find any dead bodies in the hot sandy desert? Thats just a tax payers waste of time its simply not possible no bodies found big freggin suprise there come on now be realistic.
how the hell almost 40 yrs later can a cadaver sniffing dog find any dead bodies in the hot sandy desert? Thats just a tax payers waste of time its simply not possible
Man some of you are nutty than Mr Peanuts shit. I bet half of you have never stepped foot on Barker ranch. The wind at night speaks to you as you try to close one eye, the dirt and sand moves under you like a bag of cats. The fence post dance in the dark and out of the corner of your eye you try to catch what just jump up and is now hid in your imagination, you cant wait for the sunlight and once it appears you are still not sure of what you think you thought you saw. You still don't get it.
yeah right you stinking liberal. Sure the press is guilty, but so are you. I say you spend time with some of these felons and you might change opinion. Or lets see the felons rape and rob and sodomize your teenage daughter, and you tote the liberal flag.
To all you wonderful people who have read my comment on the channels and have actually taken action instead of just talking the talk.
I'm utterly overwhelmed by your responses to me personally AND the fact that you have now sent letters to the board - WELL FUCKING DONE!!!!! - Let us hope our letters make a difference. Something tells me they will ;0) ......
I am in total admiration of every one of you - Live well and be happy - YOU ABSOLUTELY DESERVE IT!
The Parole Board is apparently going to release SUSAN ATKINS May this year 2009! This is not yet signed and sealed but is more than likely at this stage in time - If you REALLY believe this is an injustice to the VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES PLEASE DONT SIT BACK!!
Write to the board at the following address opposing her release:-
Susan Atkins -W08304, California Board of Parole Hearings,Post Office Box 4036
The Parole Board is apparently going to release SUSAN ATKINS May this year 2009! This is not yet signed and sealed but is more than likely at this stage in time - If you REALLY believe this is an injustice to the VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES PLEASE DONT SIT BACK!!
Write to the board at the following address opposing her release:-
Susan Atkins -W08304, California Board of Parole Hearings,Post Office Box 4036
Could this be the remains of Shorty Shea? they say his body was never found, and he was cut up into pieces and buried around the ranch. If so, very interesting, if not, I must know more!
Steve "Clem" Grogan led them to Shorty's body years later as part of a deal. His body turned out to be not cut up. Might've been decapitated though, can't remember.
Boo Hoo I'm tired of hearing what a rough life manson had. Well get in line and quit being a victim. There are tons of people who have had a rough life and still do. manson could have made his life better. He was lazy, never worked, and lived off other people.
Emil - Maybe that smell is just your underpants......?
Errrrrr HELLO! - FUCKTARD MANSON FREAKS / WEIRDOS AND LOVERS - He will be dead soon HAHAHAHA Jeeze, then who will you all follow?!?!?!?!?!?
What lives on are the serioulsy retarded followers who crave sociopaths in their lives because everyone else has given them a massive wide berth. HAHAHAHAH.
i guess i can feel bad for you since you aparently havent looked up any info and read the court docs.. jus because he didnt stab them dont mean he wasnt the fukin ring leader. hes a smart guy he knew what he was doing.. but he wont live on so
Charles Manson is a burnout from the sixties. He hand picked those four idiots to carry out his sick and twisted fantasies. They were weak minded morons hooked on LSD who lost their shit and went on a killing spree. He definitely banged all three girls and probably the guy in his crew also...
Yeah, & LSD isnt really addictive, its dangerous, no doubt, but not something u get hooked on. I dont think Manson was saint, but when u blame him, its kind of like saying Tex, and the girls were just innocent victims. They werent. The were the murderers. Even if Charlie did tell them to do it, if u were 18 and a 34 year old homeless ex-con told u to kill a bunch of people would u? Weak minded, yes, but I dont really by the brainwashing theory, they wanted to do it.
yep. Like I said Manson was no saint,he did do alot of bad things, & admit to it (cutting a guys ear off, stealing cars, even admiting he tied up the Labincas) but lets not make believe that the people that carried out the murders were under some hypnotic spell, if anything, theyre worse than Manson, at least Manson can (& does) say he was uneducated, & raised in prison, the rest of the "family members" really had no excuse, & certainly werent "victims"
But because what the hedia has made of this whole story against Manson, nobody is even willing to hear him out and try see the man behind all these lies!!
it took me awhile but i opened my eyes to the lies of the media and the government and saw that charles manson was actualy having fun with every one he was interviewed by i think its funny as hell
question, river: if you hired a hitman to kill someone and the hitman did it, then confessed that he hired AND paid you to carry out he hit, aren't you a co-conspirator? doesn't that make you guilty to some degree?
i'm sorry, river: here's how that was meant to be phrased: if you hired a hitman to kill someone and the hitman did it, then confessed that YOU hired AND paid him to carry out the hit, wouldn't that make you a co-conspirator? wouldn't that make you guilty of murder, at least to some degree? this hypothetical situation is similar to the manson case. manson essentially put out several hits on these victims. he's a co-conspirator in these murder cases.
Read the book Helter Skelter (Vincent Bugliosi) he states 'Charlie RARELY gave direct orders. Usually he'd SUGGEST rather than command' These words coming from his prosecutor, think of it what you will!!!
the news portrayed him how u see him but if u watch the interviews from then to now his storie never changed why CAUSE HE AINT LIEING! but if he is so what he didnt kill no one his bitches did hes not a killer just a pimp haha
If he was as mad & crazy as everyone tries to potray him, he wouldnt get his supposed story straight!!
He's innocent, dont care what anyone has to say, iv read countless amounts of books, watched interviews, spent years looking up his backround, believe me i know!!!
it doesn't mean he is innocent. he is a sick, twisted individual and he would in no way be able to contribute to society. He even confessed himself he doesn't belong in the general public. He may not have killed anybody but he is where he belongs and should stay.
What they should of done with him was put him in a mental asylum to assess him and work with him, the life that man had was attrocious & its no wonder the media jumped on this story so quick, they just didnt tell the full story!
Every1 is always gonna have different opinions anyway so there's no point trying to explain mine!!!
river, i did read helter skelter, albeit quite sometime ago, so i dont remember every detail about it. however, wouldn't you say that a person like this is a threat to society? he said his expressed vision is to start a race war. he "suggests" that impressionable people go out and kill. c'mon river. we can debate whether or not he actually committed murder forever, although he did break into the house of the labianca's and tie them up, but this guy is a threat to society. you have a conscience.
no river, i didn't read that message you left. whether they keep him locked up in an asylum for life, or a prison for life, it doesn't matter much to me. but because he convinced these impressionable kids to murder these innocent people he, nor they, should never see freedom again. thats the bottom line, river. we can debate the particulars forever.
its neither fair nor logical for you to assume that i hate charles manson just because i feel that he is guilty for his part in the tate-labianca murders. my opinion is based on the facts, and thus far you haven't refuted those facts. i respect your right to your opinion, but dont accuse me of "slating" you just because i disagree. this is a forum for discussion and debate. thats all. no hard feelings from my end.
I leave a comment about him and then you come out with all this as if im worshipping the man!
I know every fact of this case, iv been researching it for the past few years so you cant say your opinions are based on facts, because Charlie didnt kill Abigail, Voytek, Sharon, Jay, Steven, Leno or Rosemary...FACT!!!!
And btw he was very smart and able to manipulate ppl easily just like hitler so all of you shut up.
ILoveCopper4eva 11 months ago
It might be true it might not. People WTF alright it makes no god damn difference them crazy ppl belong in prison. I don't care the reason unless it's self defense you shouldn't be killin anyone, also for all you know they could have burried the bodies that supposedly are there. Manson and his followers were crazy ppl. Shoulda bean institutionalized from the start.
ILoveCopper4eva 11 months ago
how the hell almost 40 yrs later can a cadaver sniffing dog find any dead bodies in the hot sandy desert? Thats just a tax payers waste of time its simply not possible no bodies found big freggin suprise there come on now be realistic.
freakshowaffair 1 year ago
how the hell almost 40 yrs later can a cadaver sniffing dog find any dead bodies in the hot sandy desert? Thats just a tax payers waste of time its simply not possible
freakshowaffair 1 year ago
@magicbibledotcom, i agree 100%
disturbed1065 1 year ago
Man some of you are nutty than Mr Peanuts shit. I bet half of you have never stepped foot on Barker ranch. The wind at night speaks to you as you try to close one eye, the dirt and sand moves under you like a bag of cats. The fence post dance in the dark and out of the corner of your eye you try to catch what just jump up and is now hid in your imagination, you cant wait for the sunlight and once it appears you are still not sure of what you think you thought you saw. You still don't get it.
Ruckasman 1 year ago
Im bringing my cat round there now . Her names whiskers, she can smell apple pie from 2 miles away so she should be able to find a few bodies
RichardUTH 1 year ago
Me and the Roo will find you some bones next winter,...THAT you can count on. Those cop dogs are rookies.... my dog will be FAMOUS.!
mrsmelzbad 2 years ago
theres bodys im them hills boy! for all u manson fans out there in 2012 he will be grooving down the streets of L.A u dig
rogermor1 2 years ago
yeah right you stinking liberal. Sure the press is guilty, but so are you. I say you spend time with some of these felons and you might change opinion. Or lets see the felons rape and rob and sodomize your teenage daughter, and you tote the liberal flag.
TheRosettaStoned 2 years ago
okay, so there is no way that they would burry the bodies where they were staying.
and also, they killed the people that they killed because they wanted to start war,
so they would not have tried to hide bodies,
they wanted people to see what was coming
so for them to hide bodies would just not make any sense.
xxxsweettartxxx 2 years ago 8
@xxxsweettartxxx They buried Shorty Shea there so you never know. They claimed they killed more people then we know about.
screaminstevehard 1 year ago
@xxxsweettartxxx but no sense makes sense :::::::::::::::..S
roflnuubcake 5 months ago
lol Manson is known as a mass murderer despite the fact he never actually killed anyone.
The four people in his cult are the mass murderers.
They should be held 100% accountable.
magicbibledotcom 2 years ago 5
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Panzerfaust9 2 years ago
after 40 years? no fucking way. total bullshit
enamal1 2 years ago
Says who. (start thinking for yourselves people) dont pay attention to the news!
RBs2THEGRAIN 2 years ago
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To all you wonderful people who have read my comment on the channels and have actually taken action instead of just talking the talk.
I'm utterly overwhelmed by your responses to me personally AND the fact that you have now sent letters to the board - WELL FUCKING DONE!!!!! - Let us hope our letters make a difference. Something tells me they will ;0) ......
I am in total admiration of every one of you - Live well and be happy - YOU ABSOLUTELY DESERVE IT!
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twiglet6303 2 years ago
Manson is one of America's scape-goat's for guilt and shame
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Dear ALL-ANTI MANSON FAMILY,
The Parole Board is apparently going to release SUSAN ATKINS May this year 2009! This is not yet signed and sealed but is more than likely at this stage in time - If you REALLY believe this is an injustice to the VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES PLEASE DONT SIT BACK!!
Write to the board at the following address opposing her release:-
Susan Atkins -W08304, California Board of Parole Hearings,Post Office Box 4036
Sacramento, CA 95812-4036
POST ON AND FWD!!
twiglet6303 2 years ago
Omg, This is bullshit. There is no bodies found there.
Lazewski 2 years ago
noooooo!!!
how can they do this there just trying to
get him back in jail before he get out on parole
kelly2000398 2 years ago
do you want him as your neighbor?
TheRosettaStoned 2 years ago 3
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Dear ALL-ANTI MANSON FAMILY,
The Parole Board is apparently going to release SUSAN ATKINS May this year 2009! This is not yet signed and sealed but is more than likely at this stage in time - If you REALLY believe this is an injustice to the VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES PLEASE DONT SIT BACK!!
Write to the board at the following address opposing her release:-
Susan Atkins -W08304, California Board of Parole Hearings,Post Office Box 4036
Sacramento, CA 95812-4036
POST ON AND FWD!!
twiglet6303 2 years ago
Could this be the remains of Shorty Shea? they say his body was never found, and he was cut up into pieces and buried around the ranch. If so, very interesting, if not, I must know more!
DanielThomasDTR 3 years ago
Steve "Clem" Grogan led them to Shorty's body years later as part of a deal. His body turned out to be not cut up. Might've been decapitated though, can't remember.
bronco73 3 years ago
Beautifully put my friends
'Beautifully Put'!!!!
twiglet6303 3 years ago
Boo Hoo I'm tired of hearing what a rough life manson had. Well get in line and quit being a victim. There are tons of people who have had a rough life and still do. manson could have made his life better. He was lazy, never worked, and lived off other people.
sueishere25 3 years ago
ok dumb assss decomposing bodys smell farrrrrrr worse then a dead animal ...
jack ass.
ashcourtz 3 years ago
Apologies, I forgot to add FOLLOWERS....... PA HAHAHAHAHAHAH!
twiglet6303 3 years ago
Emil - Maybe that smell is just your underpants......?
Errrrrr HELLO! - FUCKTARD MANSON FREAKS / WEIRDOS AND LOVERS - He will be dead soon HAHAHAHA Jeeze, then who will you all follow?!?!?!?!?!?
What lives on are the serioulsy retarded followers who crave sociopaths in their lives because everyone else has given them a massive wide berth. HAHAHAHAH.
Get a grip!
twiglet6303 3 years ago
Decomposed humans smell the exact same as decomposed animals.
EmilGorecki 3 years ago
But Manson and all of his followers didn't eat meat and believed hunting is wrong. :/
CivilEscape 3 years ago
Notorious mass murderer? Please, FUCKING MEDIA, show me proof he murdered anybody. THEN PROVE HE MURDERED MASSES!!! FUCKIN SCUM BAG MEDIA BULLSHIT.
Manson will always live on. Fuck you
EmilGorecki 3 years ago
you are a complete fukin loon
i guess i can feel bad for you since you aparently havent looked up any info and read the court docs.. jus because he didnt stab them dont mean he wasnt the fukin ring leader. hes a smart guy he knew what he was doing.. but he wont live on so
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FUCK YOU.
ashcourtz 3 years ago 9
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He didn't murder anyone. He just used other people for his dirty work.
MANSON 4 PREZ!!
FUCK OSAMA..i mean obama
nick3425 3 years ago
@ashcourtz He made sure others did it so he could say truthfully he didn't kill any of these people.
5jerry1 1 year ago
There were no bodies found underneath that shit.. why that dude would say that is a mystery to me ...
Trachsel666 3 years ago 2
So true. They are waisting their time. Oh well maybe their bored.
angel4charie 3 years ago
Charles Manson is a burnout from the sixties. He hand picked those four idiots to carry out his sick and twisted fantasies. They were weak minded morons hooked on LSD who lost their shit and went on a killing spree. He definitely banged all three girls and probably the guy in his crew also...
boxboy75 3 years ago
You just said it 'hooked on LSD' so why the hell blame Charlie?? People need to cop on to the truth!!
And p.s boxboy75 Charlie wasnt born in the 60's,if you really knew anything about him you'd know he was born in 1934!!
RiverJudePhoenix93 3 years ago
Yeah, & LSD isnt really addictive, its dangerous, no doubt, but not something u get hooked on. I dont think Manson was saint, but when u blame him, its kind of like saying Tex, and the girls were just innocent victims. They werent. The were the murderers. Even if Charlie did tell them to do it, if u were 18 and a 34 year old homeless ex-con told u to kill a bunch of people would u? Weak minded, yes, but I dont really by the brainwashing theory, they wanted to do it.
KaptainChronic 3 years ago 2
Very Well said!!!
Somebody who can see beyond the lies the media construed against Manson!
When you hear of the Tate/LaBianca murders, not many people know the other names, its always Charles!
Killers : Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkel, Charles 'Tex' Watson,Leslie Van Houton!
Other murderers, Bobby Beausoleil, Bruce McGregor Davis, Steve Grogan 'Clem', Mary Theresa Brunner!
RiverJudePhoenix93 3 years ago
yep. Like I said Manson was no saint,he did do alot of bad things, & admit to it (cutting a guys ear off, stealing cars, even admiting he tied up the Labincas) but lets not make believe that the people that carried out the murders were under some hypnotic spell, if anything, theyre worse than Manson, at least Manson can (& does) say he was uneducated, & raised in prison, the rest of the "family members" really had no excuse, & certainly werent "victims"
KaptainChronic 3 years ago 2
Exactly i agree 100%
But because what the hedia has made of this whole story against Manson, nobody is even willing to hear him out and try see the man behind all these lies!!
RiverJudePhoenix93 3 years ago
It be a big help if he somebody interview that was more impartial than Geraldo, & some of the other clowns that interviewed him.
KaptainChronic 3 years ago
it took me awhile but i opened my eyes to the lies of the media and the government and saw that charles manson was actualy having fun with every one he was interviewed by i think its funny as hell
hippiefreakmaster 3 years ago
He's not just having fun with them, he's putting forward the truth and they cant handle it!
Vincent threw out some horrible lies about Charlie, and now the man cant even face him!
There were to be many interviews between them over the years but every time, Vincent pulled out, due to certain 'circumstances'
He cant bring himself to face the man he wrongly imprisoned!
RiverJudePhoenix93 3 years ago
thats true
but in some interveiws you cant tell he is just having fun
so witch side do you stand on
crazy "cool" or crazy and needs to be in jail
hippiefreakmaster 3 years ago
I wouldnt say crazy at all, he plays people at their own game!
We all tune in to watch this so called 'psycho' so he gives it to us, along with the truth!!
RiverJudePhoenix93 3 years ago
question, river: if you hired a hitman to kill someone and the hitman did it, then confessed that he hired AND paid you to carry out he hit, aren't you a co-conspirator? doesn't that make you guilty to some degree?
revlooshin 3 years ago
i'm sorry, river: here's how that was meant to be phrased: if you hired a hitman to kill someone and the hitman did it, then confessed that YOU hired AND paid him to carry out the hit, wouldn't that make you a co-conspirator? wouldn't that make you guilty of murder, at least to some degree? this hypothetical situation is similar to the manson case. manson essentially put out several hits on these victims. he's a co-conspirator in these murder cases.
revlooshin 3 years ago
Yes, Conspirisy to murder!!!!
So why was Charlie charged with murder???
Read the book Helter Skelter (Vincent Bugliosi) he states 'Charlie RARELY gave direct orders. Usually he'd SUGGEST rather than command' These words coming from his prosecutor, think of it what you will!!!
RiverJudePhoenix93 3 years ago
the news portrayed him how u see him but if u watch the interviews from then to now his storie never changed why CAUSE HE AINT LIEING! but if he is so what he didnt kill no one his bitches did hes not a killer just a pimp haha
s1ck3st 3 years ago 2
Thank you!!!
Im sick saying this to people!
If he was as mad & crazy as everyone tries to potray him, he wouldnt get his supposed story straight!!
He's innocent, dont care what anyone has to say, iv read countless amounts of books, watched interviews, spent years looking up his backround, believe me i know!!!
RiverJudePhoenix93 3 years ago
it doesn't mean he is innocent. he is a sick, twisted individual and he would in no way be able to contribute to society. He even confessed himself he doesn't belong in the general public. He may not have killed anybody but he is where he belongs and should stay.
samoanseb8 3 years ago
I never said he should be out of jail!
What they should of done with him was put him in a mental asylum to assess him and work with him, the life that man had was attrocious & its no wonder the media jumped on this story so quick, they just didnt tell the full story!
Every1 is always gonna have different opinions anyway so there's no point trying to explain mine!!!
RiverJudePhoenix93 3 years ago
river, i did read helter skelter, albeit quite sometime ago, so i dont remember every detail about it. however, wouldn't you say that a person like this is a threat to society? he said his expressed vision is to start a race war. he "suggests" that impressionable people go out and kill. c'mon river. we can debate whether or not he actually committed murder forever, although he did break into the house of the labianca's and tie them up, but this guy is a threat to society. you have a conscience.
revlooshin 3 years ago
If you had read the comment i left a week ago you'll see that i said he shouldnt be in jail, but in an asylum!
He is very challenged, yet very intelligent!
The man begged the authorities (in 1967) not to let him out of jail, and they ignored him!
Everything happens for a reason!
There is a message behind mansons words & people refuse to listen because of what the media has potrayed him as!
RiverJudePhoenix93 3 years ago
no river, i didn't read that message you left. whether they keep him locked up in an asylum for life, or a prison for life, it doesn't matter much to me. but because he convinced these impressionable kids to murder these innocent people he, nor they, should never see freedom again. thats the bottom line, river. we can debate the particulars forever.
revlooshin 3 years ago
Yes we can debate forever, but what im doing is voicing my opinion, that should matter because everybody has their own opinion on everything!
Im not slating you for hating him so dont slate me on been interested in him & his views!
RiverJudePhoenix93 3 years ago
its neither fair nor logical for you to assume that i hate charles manson just because i feel that he is guilty for his part in the tate-labianca murders. my opinion is based on the facts, and thus far you haven't refuted those facts. i respect your right to your opinion, but dont accuse me of "slating" you just because i disagree. this is a forum for discussion and debate. thats all. no hard feelings from my end.
revlooshin 3 years ago
Nor are there hard feelings from my end!!
I leave a comment about him and then you come out with all this as if im worshipping the man!
I know every fact of this case, iv been researching it for the past few years so you cant say your opinions are based on facts, because Charlie didnt kill Abigail, Voytek, Sharon, Jay, Steven, Leno or Rosemary...FACT!!!!
RiverJudePhoenix93 3 years ago
Have I convinced you to do something other than "whatever you want" if I suggest to you that you possess free wull?
Maybe *I* should be on trial for these murders.
hawnted 3 years ago
would you want him walking your streets
smokingpotatoes 3 years ago
yes
basinbomb 3 years ago 2
Charles isnt a murderer, he didnt have anything to do with the Tate/La Bianca murders!
Everyone will believe what they want, but this is true!!!
RiverJudePhoenix93 3 years ago
i'm god to my friends and a devil to my enemies
ripptcompleks 3 years ago
People will do anything for attention.
aquashakewad 3 years ago
the cops proberly planted bodies just so hes not released from prison in 2012
ianc1985 3 years ago 4
thats somthing i can agree on
s1ck3st 3 years ago
he didn't fucking kill anyone idiots! he just told people to do it and they took him fuckin seriously!
Hargy69 3 years ago 2
that's fucked up man
Grave8392 3 years ago 2