Amazing how this guys' brilliance in one field (linguistics) has hoodwinked stupid people into thinking he's an expert on everything-he's not, his economic ignorance is pretty staggering.
I am also not sure how Mr Chomsky just thinks how economic disparity in the US is just a function of the greedy practices of Wall Street. Wall Street is not going to grow a conscience over night and start protesting against their own practices. The working class has to fight for its rights.
I am not sure of a couple of things that Mr Chomsky stated here: how does he know that chair's of Departments are paying the party to become the chairperson? Then he states that in parliamentary systems, chairpersons are usually appointed on seniority or experience in legislation and he suggests that this would be an improvement. In parliamentary systems, most politicians are just waiting to become a minister at a certain age without doing anything. Not sure how that would be an improvement!
capitalism itself is profoundly unnatural, if only in the sense that it assumes that growth will continue perpetually, in one way or another. Also, as most people in Europe know, we are not naturally isolated beings out to get ahead against everyone else; we are naturally part of communities and we naturally care for each other.
Anti-capitalistism is the political ideology of idiots and the suburban. There is no such thing as anti-capitalism, humanity is built on opportunism and self improvement and nothing will ever change that. Socialism is eternally self destructant as it is entirely incompatible with human nature, capitalism will never die.
@StamfordMax human nature is not reducable to one or two qualities. the cultural climate tends to accentuate and to a significant degree determine what human behavior is like.
and capitalism, contrary to common belief, is not a free economy. it creates and solidifies class hierarchy leading to disproportions in power. without that there wouldn't be centralized capital. it cannot allow too many people to be well-off.
@fede2 Capitalism allows people to improve themsleves, it's not easy and nor should it. Socialism pushes people down to the same insignificant level which is why it will never succeed over capitalism.
You guys do know Noams an Anarchist , right? He'd be the first to say that you don't need another president. Thats not democracy. Democracy is where you have a say and take part in making decisions for your community and society. Not where Corp. have a disprop. amount of political power over all of us.
Where are the rest off our great academics? When will more great minds like Chomsky step forward and step up? When will they be bought to the fore? It might well be too late.
Noam Chomsky is one of the great heroes of human culture. The wisdom on current culture that comes from him is positively inspiring. May he live long enough to witness the great shift in consciousness that is surely coming---no, that MUST come, if we are to survive.
Isn't Chomsky an anarchist? I thought the OWS movement was inherently dependent on the state. Who else would redistribute the wealth? Seems odd that OWS would choose Chomsky.
@diggingforgold OWS isn't necessarily about redistributing the wealth. In fact, IIRC, the people that started it were anarchists. It was only afterwards that statist reformers basically took it over. At a recent Occupy protest, I was flat-out told that I was "too radical."
Even if it was statist from beginning to end, though, the point that people realize that the system isn't working still stands.
No need. I can see why people love Paul. He is a true conservative. I read his book, or at least some of it. Many of his arguments are excellent, but some of them are down right illogical I have to say
You're talking to sheeple, brother. Sadly, most people just don't care- thinking it won't affect them.
Obama just signed your rights away with the passing of the National Defense Authorization Act, which allows for any citizen of the United States of America to be labeled a terrorist and be taken to Gitmo indefinitely without questioning. Vote for freedom! Ron Paul 2012.
Glad Chomsky spoke on this. He is a pariah on major networks. His point of view doesnt fit in with Corporate americas but the RT network is just a propaganda outlet of the Russian Federation
@TheAndyChandy No, though I can't say the same for you. It's a Russian network made with the purpose of spreading thoughts and sentiments that most benefit the Russian elites. Drones flock to it because they think they're being edgy and breaking the chains of media oppression, but the sheep are merely flocking to a new shepherd. RT once did a report on a supposed UFO trying to disable nukes in the UK and US(while Russia works on even deadlier bombs). Sadly telling when the viewers liked it.
The US stopped being a democracy when it became OK to buy our "elected" representatives through campaign contributions and changing policy through lobbying. Support OWS.
@BillGoose1313 America was never a democracy it has always been a democratic republic. Know your political science before commenting and sounding stupid.
@jfalzone24 Thank you for correcting my ignorance. UPDATE: The US stopped being a "democratic republic" when it became OK to buy our "elected" representatives through campaign contributions and changing policy through lobbying. Support OWS. (Just an FYI: Ignorance is a state of being uninformed; Stupidity is a lack of intelligence; and Rudeness is an absence of etiquette often displayed by people who hide behind the anonymity of the internet).
@jfalzone24 Democracy and republic are usually interchangeable terms unless your taking to an expert then yes you would say america is a republic since we have representational democracy over direct democracy
Noam Chomsky, if you are an linguistics expert, that means you are also an economics expert. Why not ask him his view on finding Higgs, or whether there are infinite twin primes.
Ugh. Look, if we wanted for some to vote for to reform this rotten system, we would've found a candidate a long time ago, but our intention is not to let this unsustainable system to go on any longer, quite the opposite, we wish for a classless society. No movement with a leader will or can give us that, it's something we'll all have to bring about.
@DavidWicked Hell no. Noam Chomsky has personally said he wouldn't want to be president, and anyone who has properly researched this subject should know better than to think a perfect president is the thing we need to solve our problems.
A president is essentially the thing we need to get rid of. People need to overthrow power and start actively running things themselves collectively so as to be in a position to start constructing a society that will benefit the majority of people.
Well this is just one of the all too many cases on our books of Americanism. The only way that we can fight this terrible debilitating social disease, is by informing the general public of its consequences, by showing young people that it's just not worth it. So, so please give generously to this address: The League for fighting the United States of America, 55 Lincoln House, Basil Street, London, SW3.
@alvisinger1 the qualifier was 'real'. After you factor in disability benefit and the numbers no longer counted because they've been unemployed for two years. The 'real' figures are more difficult to ascertain now, and more politically distorted
@BaldyV Baldy, I doubt you've read any of his books or really listened to any of his points. Stop trolling. Noam Chomsky is a goddamned genius when it comes to not only linguistics but economics, economic culture, and behavioral culture and is very well-versed in history. Shut your mouth and maybe you'll learn something. His work in politics and economics is poor? Where are you getting your information? The mainstream media? Castrate yourself so you can't weaken the gene pool more than it is now
Chomsky is spot on with his political research. He makes sure that he has read up on everything that he speaks about so he can be sure that he's being completely accurate.
It's in the right direction, but it's totally hypocritical - and in a global context if any change were to arise it would only be toward the benefit of Western Society. So at the end of the day, liberation is wanted within WS so long as it remains the worldly oppressor. The bottom-line will never leave us in conditions that are sub-standard to the current quality of living. At least that is what I speculate, and fear, will be the most positive outcome of Occupy on the global stage.
Someone could please write everything he said, for people of all around the world to translate this message for their language, please, this is so important, the system WILL collapse soon, and activist of the world must be synchronized....
ows is a bunch of leftist morons who want to expand government under the guise of stylish anarchistic clothing. what morons, it's the exact opposite of what anarchism is. ows needs to protest crony capitalism instead of advocating a welfare socialist society (only morons do that).
@SanguineBullet667 Ah huh... It's not anarchism or socialism. It's everyone. Instead of focusing on how you differ from SOME of the people, why not find what you have in common?
God Bless you Professor .. You told the truth, the government and the pillars of the government - senate,congress etc are all servants of the Corporations
The Socialist Party USA supports the mobilizations to occupy Wall St. in New York and various cities across the US and encourages their locals to take part in these actions. That's why I don't.
The United States will just crumble out of it's own greed!!...more power, more power, more money, more money then BOOUUUMMM!!...it all implodes!!...corporations are all gone where it's safe for them to be when it happens!!...they know it's going to happen soon so that's why they're looking towards China where there's still room for them to grow bigger and bigger!!...then boouummm!!...watch out when the crash happens in China my friends!!...you better get the hell out quick!!..."Occupy China"!!!
@UltraProle21 in essence the practice of monetary policy is carried out by bankers...try to watch this documentary you will understand a lot.../watch?v=JXt1cayx0hs
@UltraProle21 >> why do they occupy wall st. instead of D.C.?
Because the Leftists who took control of our government in D.C. organized the OWS protests and aimed them at the wrong target.
It's a way of taking all that pent-up frustration and emotion and pointing it at something the Leftists in government want to see destroyed - private employers.
@AmericaSpeakOut1 we agree that FED is the American central bank, dont we? is FED a goverment bank? if it is, why are FED gold reserves private and not public ? if FED gold reserves are private then the private capitals have every right to carrie out their own monetary policy.
@korios101 The US Constitution puts control of the printing of currency under Congress. An external lender is not legally allowed to create US currency and charge interest on the creation of that currency.
Abrahan Lincoln restored lawful creation of US currency. He got dead quickly. America's enemies rightly complained that policy would make the USA prosperous, debt-free and very attractive to people wanting to flee from brutal monarchies. They were correct.
@AmericaSpeakOut1 could you answer me the fucking question? who has the fucking authority to mint money, the US secretary of the treasury or the chairman of FED?
See Patricia McAllister's web site:... "Zionist Jew Fed Reserve.com.." Fired from LA School district for telling the truth.. Telling the truth is a powerful revolutionary act.. Being fired makes it self evident truth..
@vladdrac88 A man who sells his own people and throws them under the bus is not to be taken seriously. Chomsky, Finklestein and the rest of the JudenRats are never to be taken seriously, they are evil and twisted.
@ZionistIDF What is evil and twisted is to support a foreign policy which will result in an endless series of wars with only one outcome. No nation is invincible. One day, Israel will catch another "Babylonian Captivity" or 'Roman Destruction of The Jewish State'. Unless you suggest Israel is exempt from Its Gods laws. In which case you seem evil and twisted to me.
@vladdrac88 The bible says that when Israel returns from exile they will never again go into exile, I do believe in God and the words of the Prophets. I would rather die defending my people, my heritage, my religion than go down as an agent of the Nazi's. I go with my tribe through whatever challenges God will put us through, we stick together, thats the way it is, to go and support Hamas and all the other Jew hating organisations is considered as though you murdered the Jewish people.
@ZionistIDF In America many people are angry with the law which views corporations as persons. You know that there are a number of Orthodox rabbis who do not think the Israeli State is the work of God. I will not attempt to convince you. I to believe in the "Ten Commandments". Orthodox Jew, Christian, Muslim all acknowledge " Ten Commandments ". I see murder and theft on all sides. Taking a mans home or farm with a piece of paper is theft...a tooth for a tooth not a thousand teeth for one.
@vladdrac88 The Supreme Court ruled that the persons in corporations could not be denied their free speech right to contribute to and support political candidates defending their interests.
Our Constitution prohibits interference with free speech. If it's okay for Unions and taxpayer-funded organizations to contribute to specific political causes, it is incomprehensible that private sector employees should be denied that same Right.
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Sorry....what private sector employees are denied..? I wish money could somehow be driven wholly out of the election process, with media giving x amount of free time for candidates to present themselves, debate etc....US Media doing its part at public service....:) I'm dreaming.....
@vladdrac88 I also wish the candidates could be free of influence money. I agree with the notion of all candidates getting equal public service time.
We would have a problem, still, with unions compelling members to support Democrat candidates in various ways (or go to these OWS protests). Also, leftist groups like ACORN manipulating voters and the vote. Democrats setting up illegal aliens as voters...
@AmericaSpeakOut1 It is an enormously complex question. Is the media being owned by the wealthy an unfair advantage to them ?. No one should be compelled by anyone or anything other than their own good conscience. Do individuals have a right to geopardize their nations domestic tranquility in pursuit of personal profit? I think not. I agree setting up illegal aliens as voters is wrong. At the moment I'm not fond of either Democrats or Republicans. They are 'fighting in as burning house'.
@vladdrac88 >> Is the media being owned by the wealthy an unfair advantage to them ?
When the media shape the "news" to serve an agenda, it certainly provides an unfair advantage. Let me ask - with all the Communist activity right in front of our noses, with all the work the Communist Party USA did to help Obama get elected... how often do CNN or MSNBC talk about the Communists and what they are doing?
Absence of exposure gives cover to the workers of mischief.
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Communists ?. I think I know something about Communists. Grandpa who raised me fought them until 1922, leaving Russia with the last organized resistance. I wasn't drafted, I volunteered for Vietnam. Why would "Capitalists", who certainly own the major media, keep silent, seeing a "Communist" sympathizer President coming to office?. I think the answer is: Because Obama is no "Communist". I think that certain gangsters who call themselves "Capitalists" are looking for a scapegoat
"Communists", who control our major media, ARE keeping the newsies silent. And they actively punish anyone trying to expose them.
When Lou Dobbs made the horrible mistake of stating a basic truth - that Obama continues paying lawyers to fight off anyone trying to verify he is eligible for office - they fired his ass promptly.
The Communist Party USA worked hard to put Obama into office and he appointed fellow Communists like Van Jones and John Holdren to control our nation.
@AmericaSpeakOut1 In America communism has no real power. It is not communism which has brought about Americas financial collapse but rather common criminals calling themselves capitalists like Madoff and Blankfein. Blankfein ( Goldman Sachs ) bet against his own customers and lied about it to Congress. By no means stupid but blinded by greed they sold our 'bundled' mortgages to most of Europe's major financial institutions. In effect they robbed the world and now they need a scapegoat.
"Affirmative Action" forced on the home lenders by Clinton Administration, leading to eventual disaster. Video of Clinton's HUD Secretary boasting of victory in forcing lenders to comply
youtube*com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64
Obama, working with ACORN, Sued Citibank Under CRA to Force it to Make Bad Loans – UPDATED
@AmericaSpeakOut1 The suit was against "redlining". It did not force the banks to make bad loans. In general, when the banks don't like something, they take it all the way to the Supreme Court. As soon as Nixon 'opened the door to China' businessmen both from Europe and America went there in droves. There, frequently, workers who live in dormitories, going home a month or so a year, replaced the European and American workers. The Chinese worked for five dollars a day. It started thirty years ago
@vladdrac88 The suit was to compel banks to make loans against the rules of their business practices. The banks were not in trouble before that was forced on them.
As the situation spiraled toward the inevitable collapse, Democrats were defensive against anyone trying to stop the crash.
Shocking Video Unearthed: Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis
@AmericaSpeakOut1 I don't form my opinions based on one or two instances. Its my personal opinion that Europe and America were practically stripped of their factories by politicians allowing the uncontrolled flight of industrial manufacturing to China. As I see it Wall Street and large legal firms along with inept or corrupt politicians facilitated the bleed out by things like getting rid of Glass Steagall. Were those jobs still available, I think people would still be paying their mortgages.
@vladdrac88 >> Europe and America were practically stripped of their factories by politicians allowing the uncontrolled flight of industrial manufacturing to China
I completely agree on that. It's the stated goal of the Obama Administration, to "de-develop" the United States. That's why he has appointed fellow Communists to run our nation (into the ground).
The Communists have won the Cold War and are carrying out their true objective, to knock the USA out of superpower status.
@vladdrac88 It wasn't just the "allowing" of uncontrolled flight, it was causing it.
It's a well established understanding that the more costly regulation and taxation is imposed upon businesses, the less likely it is they can carry on business. Then Obama directly killed off US oil drillers in the Gulf of Mexico and invited Brazil to come take our oil. He directly shut down car dealerships after nationalizing them and General Motors.
@AmericaSpeakOut1 :) You do know that I'm analyzing from what I see. All this stuff has been going on since long before Obama came into office. Certain wealthy 'Americans' and foreigners living in the US can stay wealthy regardless of what happens to the US or US companies because their money can be invested in profitable foreign companies. Driving the people with the most powerful military on the planet to revolution might have unforeseen consequences. I have to think on this a bit.
@vladdrac88 I agree it has been going on a long time.
Scroll to the bottom of this article and look at the newspaper clipping from 1934. To publish it in today's newspaper, one only need change a couple of the names and faces on the Democrat's Donkey-pulled cart...
@vladdrac88 >> Driving the people with the most powerful military on the planet to revolution might have unforeseen consequences.
This scenario has played out before, in Chile. A guy named Allende was elected then began the "fundamental transformation" of his nation into a Communist dictatorship, just as ours is.
The Judiciary asked their military leader, Pinochet, to oust the Communists and restore rule of law. The commies put their OWS-style youth on the streets to be killed for propaganda.
Our Communists learned from Chile. They installed some of their people in our Supreme Court to defang it and keep it from asking the military to restore obedience to our Constitution. They have effectively taken control of all three branches of our government now.
Al Gore gloated in 1996 that there is no longer a "controlling authority" to compel his ilk to obey the Constitution.
Civil war, with our government under communist control, would be... interesting.
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Was not the Chilean Constitution altered by Pinochet and his supporters?. Was extralegal execution and torture not carried out by Pinochet's supporters?. That is a question, not an accusation.
@vladdrac88 The Chilean Constitution was altered by the representative government of Chile. After a highly controversial referendum in 1980 Pinochet, who had been proclaimed president in 1974, was elected president and a new constitution approved to eliminate former Statist oppression.
These reforms made Chile a financial powerhouse and an example of great prosperity. Pinochet's policies were lauded internationally for transforming the Chilean economy and bringing about an "economic miracle".
@vladdrac88 Pinochet and his supporters were fighting a Leftist insurrection. It was a fight to see who would take control of the nation - the Libertarians or the Soviet-backed Leftists.
It is a fact many Leftist cells were rounded up and treated very harshly. They were, after all enemies of The People.
Note the parallel to Leftist operations growing in power in the USA, systematically pillaging and "de-developing" our nation, destroying it from the inside...
@vladdrac88 Left-wing organizations tried to set up groups of resistance fighters against the newly established government. Some of them, known as the GAP (Grupo de Amigos Personales), had previously served as bodyguards of President Allende. Many activists created groups of resistance groups from refugees abroad. The Lautaro Youth Movement (MJL) was formed in December 1982 and the Communist Party of Chile set up an armed wing, which became in 1983 the FPMR (Frente Patriótico Manuel Rodríguez).
@vladdrac88 After the Chilean military coup in 1973, Castro promised Chilean revolutionaries "all the aid in Cuba's power to provide." Throughout the 1970s, MIR guerrillas and several hundred Chilean exiles received military training in Cuba. Once their training was completed, Cuba helped the guerrillas return to Chile, providing false passports and false identification documents to establish terrorist operations.
It was an ongoing fight to keep the Communists under control.
@AmericaSpeakOut1 You do refer to 'Constitutions' a great deal. They are a new thing as history goes. What has been a constant is that if men do not have work that provides food and shelter for themselves and their families, they become violent and overthrow the existing order, whatever it may be. It seems to me that all the Constitutions are attempts at creating societies that will prosper and flourish in an orderly manner. Political Science and "Economics" tell us the causes of 'revolution'.
@vladdrac88 And isn't it funny how ever Political abuse that has taken place, is always pursued under some selective guise of the constitution. It's just like religion in many respects. There's Islamic-followers in the mainstream who quote their doctrine as a message of peace, and then there's those that quote passages from the exact same doctrine to suggest themes of war in the name of ideological defence.
At the end of the day, it's all words -- people use them for anything. Violence - peace.
@DarkMaelstrom :) I find "Religion" a "Constitution" followed by very few. "Many call themselves Jews but are not". :) Same for Muslims and Christians. Orthodox Muslims, Christians, Jews, all are prohibited by their God, a number of kinds of behavior. They are the famous "Thou Shalt Not Kill", "Thou Shalt Not Steal". Lets not blame the rules few follow. Lets blame the traitors to their God who have added serpentine rationalizations saying its OK to break God's laws under certain circumstances.
@vladdrac88 Yes. But do indulge me in this. Islam. Islamic LAW states that apostasy should be punishable by death. I mean, how do you reconcile the 'thou shalt not kill' notion with an ideology that believes in outright murdering anyone who decides one day, "well, this religion is not for me -- no offence to your guys -- good bye." People have used these very words to promote murder. Now look at another example: we have a Zionist nut case who makes AmericaSpeakOut1 seem sane.
@DarkMaelstrom I can't reconcile that. The only thing I can say is that I believe, as with Christians, Muslims have allowed to many 'holy men' to make additions to laws that were known before they were written. I'm not trying to duck any issues here :). The best explanation I can offer is this. When I was young, kids fought until one said 'I give'. Then it was over. It was almost a 'custom from the heart' ( soul ? ) An awful lot has changed since then,,,and I do mean awful. I'll add a littleltr
@vladdrac88 I don't think you're ducking an issue. See, I am an atheist, so to me, it's all philosophy. And I know there isn't a single philosophy that has a direct goal to spread or create blood-shed; they're all making attempts to form systems that might help humans coordinate themselves in a collective civilization. This is why I see all philosophies as nothing more than blue prints that are subjectively implemented by those looking to either benefit or exploit. Peace. Violence. Sad, really.
@DarkMaelstrom I think you're absolutely correct . I've spent more time than most 'civilians' trying to make a sort of 'academic proposal' about "religion" that would explain the 'phenomenon', because without 'proof' philosophy is philosophy : 'The ecological purpose of intelligent technological species is the preservation of biospheres and habitats, when the native planets and stars are no longer able to do so'. Accomplishing this ' E. P. ' requires a peaceful cooperative social organization.
@vladdrac88 You've really thought this one out, so I am going to respectfully nod and agree with the general idea that you're promoting. I think this makes for a compelling argument against fanaticism and general understanding of philosophies and cultural blue-prints for the greater betterment. This 'My Capitalist versus Your Communist' meme needs to be put to rest. At the end of the day, our biospheres and habitats are paramount indeed -- I like where you're taking this thinking.
@AmericaSpeakOut1 There have been enormous changes since the 1970's. Both China and Russia have rejected "Communism". I want to think a bit about the response I'd like to make to you're posts. Tomorrow night I think I might come up with the wording I'm looking for.
@vladdrac88 >> Both China and Russia have rejected "Communism".
Perhaps Russia has. China's government still exerts top-down control over the means of production and distribution of wealth. It allows a little more freedom on the part of Party-loyalists to run businesses, yet the workers are still slaves. It does NOT allow individual equality, Rights, or the freedom to pursue one's own interests free of State control.
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Now this. . . is more accurate. What any of this has to do with communism, is another story. Or to quote Noam Chomsky, "FAKE SOCIALISM."
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Russia is going through a kind of roaring twenties :) China, the Chinese Government has more than a billion and a half people to consider. A problem no other nation has. It seems to me, they are doing the best they can with what they have got. I also entirely approve of the Chinese Governments approach to crooked businesspeople. Not all the workers are slaves by any means. One has made his corporate headquarters look like The Capitol Buildings of the US.
@vladdrac88 *Sighs.* Dude. You're a reasonable, individualistic, open-minded thinker. Why are you giving audience to this Constitutional fanatic and his phobia of 'fake socialism' that he extrapolates and applies to all forms of political reform without a single digit's worth of education or knowledge of concepts and themes.
@DarkMaelstrom I'll answer openly. :) I talk to anyone with a clear idea whether I agree with them or not. I think ninety nine percent of all of us are looking for 'domestic tranquility, peace and security for our families and neighbors. I'll 'talk for that' until the very last second before the guns come out. My family lost more than half its members to wars and revolutions. That is what drives me.
@vladdrac88 Noble intents and pursuit. I just felt that your genuine attempts at establishing dialogue were being responded by rehearsed socialist-phobia (OH TEH COMMIES! TEEH COMIES GAIS!) befitting of an equally polarised fanatical thinking that is becoming all too common in the 'freeworldTM'..
You know, someone who believes in American principles, the rule of law, defense of equal Rights for all Americans, who stands against tyranny and oppression.
If you're well steeped in leftist ideology I can see why you would disparage such a person. You're playing for the "against-American" or "anti-American" team, after all.
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Collectivising and jumping to irrational conclusions. If that the state of Pro America, then I don't think it needs any outside forces to take it down.
@DarkMaelstrom >> rehearsed socialist-phobia (OH TEH COMMIES! TEEH COMIES GAIS!)
When you say something like that, you demonstrate a profound ignorance of reality.
The Communist Party USA worked hard to put Obama. The Che Guevara banner was on his campaign office wall. He appointed fellow Communists as Czars to help "fundamentally transform" our nation in ways that are forbidden by the US Constitution.
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Correction: Communist Party USA worked hard to put Obama into office - and bragged openly about it. Not that our mainstream news let the American People know about it.
And that Ernesto Guevara banner on Obama's campaign office wall?
“If the missiles had remained, we would have fired them against the very heart of the U.S., including New York. The victory of socialism is well worth millions of atomic victims.” (Che Guevara, November 1962.)
@AmericaSpeakOut1 . . .man. That's really eye-opening. The other day, I was looking at the moon, and it like, totally came down to Earth and settled into my left pocket -- it was actually very tiny. That must mean that this moon thing is like some conspiracy to make us all believe that we're genuinely making progress into space exploration. THOSE DAMN COMMIES!
@AmericaSpeakOut1 . . .so all his pro-crony policies are a cover for a a Communist take over? So in a metaphorical sense, he's pretending to be gay, just so the homophobes can finally claim victory?
@AmericaSpeakOut1 In the past, the rich have blamed the Jews for their own failures. This has grown somewhat difficult since A. Hitler. Now, a new Judas Goat has been found, "Communist" because 'they' figure on the knee jerk reaction after a half century of cold war. They have no one to blame but themselves. It was 'They' themselves who GAVE China to many jobs, not out of consideration for the Chinese People or their fellow citizens but out of blind to the consequences greed.
Amazing how this guys' brilliance in one field (linguistics) has hoodwinked stupid people into thinking he's an expert on everything-he's not, his economic ignorance is pretty staggering.
pretorious700 1 day ago
It's RT - Wear a red sweater! (And Chomsky is right on.)
slurslee 3 days ago
I am also not sure how Mr Chomsky just thinks how economic disparity in the US is just a function of the greedy practices of Wall Street. Wall Street is not going to grow a conscience over night and start protesting against their own practices. The working class has to fight for its rights.
karangmail15 5 days ago
I am not sure of a couple of things that Mr Chomsky stated here: how does he know that chair's of Departments are paying the party to become the chairperson? Then he states that in parliamentary systems, chairpersons are usually appointed on seniority or experience in legislation and he suggests that this would be an improvement. In parliamentary systems, most politicians are just waiting to become a minister at a certain age without doing anything. Not sure how that would be an improvement!
karangmail15 5 days ago
I wonder if Chomsky would mind if I occupied HIS RICH ASS HOME!
He's a hyprocryte! Like all the rest. Walk your talk Chomsky.
Linguist!
honour123 5 days ago
@honour123 Fuck anything you have to say! Fool.
beethovenfan3 4 days ago
@beethovenfan3 Another hyrpocryte tard! Can I occupy your house too. Ohhhh but you don't believe in private ownership.... RIGHT???
Just like RICH OL CHOMSKY. MR HYPROCRYTE.
honour123 4 days ago
capitalism itself is profoundly unnatural, if only in the sense that it assumes that growth will continue perpetually, in one way or another. Also, as most people in Europe know, we are not naturally isolated beings out to get ahead against everyone else; we are naturally part of communities and we naturally care for each other.
The1234fivesix 6 days ago
I hope doesn't die in the next 1000 years.
blackprincess82 1 week ago
@StamfordMax "Anti-capitalistism is the political ideology of idiots and the suburban."????? Really?? Tell that to Hu Jintao!
chris241289 1 week ago
Anti-capitalistism is the political ideology of idiots and the suburban. There is no such thing as anti-capitalism, humanity is built on opportunism and self improvement and nothing will ever change that. Socialism is eternally self destructant as it is entirely incompatible with human nature, capitalism will never die.
StamfordMax 1 week ago
@StamfordMax human nature is not reducable to one or two qualities. the cultural climate tends to accentuate and to a significant degree determine what human behavior is like.
and capitalism, contrary to common belief, is not a free economy. it creates and solidifies class hierarchy leading to disproportions in power. without that there wouldn't be centralized capital. it cannot allow too many people to be well-off.
fede2 1 week ago
@fede2 Capitalism allows people to improve themsleves, it's not easy and nor should it. Socialism pushes people down to the same insignificant level which is why it will never succeed over capitalism.
StamfordMax 1 week ago
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@StamfordMax "Capitalism allows people to improve themsleves..."
only marginally. an economy of ceo's and entrepeneurs without labour is not possible. but i already made this point.
fede2 1 week ago
This man is a liar, a self hating Jew and fucking KAPO (during the holocaust they were the Jews who collaborated with the Nazis).
XVMSSS02 1 week ago
@XVMSSS02 [citation needed]
TheGeneralCritic 1 week ago
@XVMSSS02 not at all. chomsky accepts everyone elses opinions and tells only the absolute truth about politics
AAAAAAWWWWWWWWWYYEAH 1 week ago
You guys do know Noams an Anarchist , right? He'd be the first to say that you don't need another president. Thats not democracy. Democracy is where you have a say and take part in making decisions for your community and society. Not where Corp. have a disprop. amount of political power over all of us.
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youn00ber 2 weeks ago
@esteban8426ify GO ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!
ianmathwiz7 1 week ago
Read "Do As I Say" about this hypocrite Chomsky.
akchicago21 2 weeks ago
@akchicago21 Get a brain moran.
HoGraz 1 week ago
is it me or does this woman look like kate middleton?
lail111 3 weeks ago
It was just getting good.
markse4444 3 weeks ago
for some reason when i search for either Noam chomsky or Ron paul all i find is RT
munkdo4 3 weeks ago
Chomsky has a voice so soothing he could put a Meth addict asleep
94Cioppa 3 weeks ago 2
I love people trying to arguee with Noam. Who do they think they are. They will never win.
system0system0 1 month ago
Where are the rest off our great academics? When will more great minds like Chomsky step forward and step up? When will they be bought to the fore? It might well be too late.
ibullpitt 1 month ago
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markse4444 3 weeks ago
I'm gonna write a song about Marina Portnaya.
basimpson22 1 month ago
PURE GENUIS!
AsemOla 1 month ago
GIVE US MORE CHOMSKY RT! thumbs up
deathbyzza420 1 month ago
She looks as if she wants to blow him
askdhuwuw 1 month ago
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Dump this Noam Chomsky commie fool. Murray Rothbard is the way.
teenflunkie 1 month ago
I went to the same high school as Noam Chomsky
kashifv 1 month ago
Noam Chomsky is one of the great heroes of human culture. The wisdom on current culture that comes from him is positively inspiring. May he live long enough to witness the great shift in consciousness that is surely coming---no, that MUST come, if we are to survive.
Eyologist1 1 month ago
I know she has no idea what he is talking about. she probably has no idea about whats coming out of her own mouth...
cali8621 1 month ago
Isn't Chomsky an anarchist? I thought the OWS movement was inherently dependent on the state. Who else would redistribute the wealth? Seems odd that OWS would choose Chomsky.
diggingforgold 1 month ago
An anarchist? that's a strong word for someone
MsTommyknocker 1 month ago
@MsTommyknocker How so? It's what he self-identifies as.
ianmathwiz7 1 week ago
@diggingforgold OWS isn't necessarily about redistributing the wealth. In fact, IIRC, the people that started it were anarchists. It was only afterwards that statist reformers basically took it over. At a recent Occupy protest, I was flat-out told that I was "too radical."
Even if it was statist from beginning to end, though, the point that people realize that the system isn't working still stands.
ianmathwiz7 1 week ago
I nominate Chomsky for supreme overlord.
60l23 1 month ago 4
Obama is better than the alternative
MsTommyknocker 1 month ago
@MsTommyknocker Ron Paul is better than the alternative (obamney)
Ron paul predicted housing bubble, terrorism, erosion of liberties, and much more, PLZ look him up
valeo626 1 month ago
No need. I can see why people love Paul. He is a true conservative. I read his book, or at least some of it. Many of his arguments are excellent, but some of them are down right illogical I have to say
MsTommyknocker 1 month ago
Chomsky has fathered the OWS movement since he has been teaching. OWS is the realized action behind his life's work.
theaaronmurphy 1 month ago 2
Forget protesting. We need a mass movement of legal action. Sue the bastards! Kick the bums out! Impeach Obama!
donpengin 1 month ago
@donpengin
You're talking to sheeple, brother. Sadly, most people just don't care- thinking it won't affect them.
Obama just signed your rights away with the passing of the National Defense Authorization Act, which allows for any citizen of the United States of America to be labeled a terrorist and be taken to Gitmo indefinitely without questioning. Vote for freedom! Ron Paul 2012.
justinj2 1 month ago
Glad Chomsky spoke on this. He is a pariah on major networks. His point of view doesnt fit in with Corporate americas but the RT network is just a propaganda outlet of the Russian Federation
musiclover81813 2 months ago 2
@musiclover81813 Agreed, I'm kind of cringing to see Chomsky on a propaganda network like RT, but at least he's getting to speak.
Waluigi101 1 month ago
@Waluigi101 RT is a propaganda network? Are you braindead?
TheAndyChandy 1 month ago
@TheAndyChandy No, though I can't say the same for you. It's a Russian network made with the purpose of spreading thoughts and sentiments that most benefit the Russian elites. Drones flock to it because they think they're being edgy and breaking the chains of media oppression, but the sheep are merely flocking to a new shepherd. RT once did a report on a supposed UFO trying to disable nukes in the UK and US(while Russia works on even deadlier bombs). Sadly telling when the viewers liked it.
Waluigi101 1 month ago
RIP Mr.Chomsky (7 Dec 1928-28 Dec 2011). As bad as the world was with you, it is far worse without you.
I will keep readinf your works and trying to make the world a better place to live.
Your biggest fan,
Rex
BalanceofPowers 2 months ago
@BalanceofPowers I don't think he died.
Muntathar 2 months ago
@BalanceofPowers What? Not funny.
rleb09 2 months ago
@BalanceofPowers ....you know he's alive, right?
hansaru 2 months ago
@BalanceofPowers fuck you
glottis5 1 month ago
woooooooot1 noam's the man
glewberdoober 2 months ago
Interviewer is hot
fLcGambit 2 months ago
The US stopped being a democracy when it became OK to buy our "elected" representatives through campaign contributions and changing policy through lobbying. Support OWS.
BillGoose1313 2 months ago
@BillGoose1313 America was never a democracy it has always been a democratic republic. Know your political science before commenting and sounding stupid.
jfalzone24 2 months ago
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@jfalzone24 Thank you for correcting my ignorance. UPDATE: The US stopped being a "democratic republic" when it became OK to buy our "elected" representatives through campaign contributions and changing policy through lobbying. Support OWS. (Just an FYI: Ignorance is a state of being uninformed; Stupidity is a lack of intelligence; and Rudeness is an absence of etiquette often displayed by people who hide behind the anonymity of the internet).
BillGoose1313 2 months ago
@jfalzone24 Democracy and republic are usually interchangeable terms unless your taking to an expert then yes you would say america is a republic since we have representational democracy over direct democracy
Luis568369 2 months ago
Noam Chomsky, if you are an linguistics expert, that means you are also an economics expert. Why not ask him his view on finding Higgs, or whether there are infinite twin primes.
ec0n1n0thuman 2 months ago
Capitalism will collapse in on itself sometime this decade. You just watch. Slowly the real owners of the world will take away our rights.
taKenzZzZz 2 months ago
Gnome Chompsky from L4D2?
iDavidrawrr 2 months ago
I nominate Noam Chomsky for leader of the Occupy Movement.
johnnybrannan 2 months ago 38
@johnnybrannan I nominate Noam Chomsky for leader of the earth
TrippyMcgee22 2 months ago
@johnnybrannan I nominate Noam Chomsky for president.
wouter1411 2 months ago
@johnnybrannan you miss the point
animalmother1967 1 month ago
@johnnybrannan
Ugh. Look, if we wanted for some to vote for to reform this rotten system, we would've found a candidate a long time ago, but our intention is not to let this unsustainable system to go on any longer, quite the opposite, we wish for a classless society. No movement with a leader will or can give us that, it's something we'll all have to bring about.
Strike - Occupy - Takeover!
m0bi 4 days ago
Have you done your Noamwork? Noam Chomsky for president
DavidWicked 2 months ago 39
@DavidWicked An anarchist president!
SebbeSucksBawlz 2 months ago
@DavidWicked you miss the point
animalmother1967 1 month ago
@DavidWicked Imagine it. I will have a great dream tonight.
system0system0 1 month ago
@DavidWicked Hell no. Noam Chomsky has personally said he wouldn't want to be president, and anyone who has properly researched this subject should know better than to think a perfect president is the thing we need to solve our problems.
A president is essentially the thing we need to get rid of. People need to overthrow power and start actively running things themselves collectively so as to be in a position to start constructing a society that will benefit the majority of people.
sk8tafrnk 1 week ago
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Well this is just one of the all too many cases on our books of Americanism. The only way that we can fight this terrible debilitating social disease, is by informing the general public of its consequences, by showing young people that it's just not worth it. So, so please give generously to this address: The League for fighting the United States of America, 55 Lincoln House, Basil Street, London, SW3.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 2 months ago
I was going to make a clever comment, but figured no one would care. You're all too busy cursing at each other.
Observer585 2 months ago
Unemployment is nowhere near the level of the Great Depression (9% vs. 25%). Fecking eejit!
(Still support the movement though.)
alvisinger1 3 months ago
@alvisinger1 He clearly said "real Unemployment". Investigate it and you'll understand.
owencbar 3 months ago
@alvisinger1
You really think it's only 9%???? :O
0rioni 3 months ago
@alvisinger1 the qualifier was 'real'. After you factor in disability benefit and the numbers no longer counted because they've been unemployed for two years. The 'real' figures are more difficult to ascertain now, and more politically distorted
DavidByrne85 2 months ago 2
Noam Chomsky should stick to Linguistics. His work in politics and economics is very poor.
BaldyV 3 months ago
@BaldyV Baldy, I doubt you've read any of his books or really listened to any of his points. Stop trolling. Noam Chomsky is a goddamned genius when it comes to not only linguistics but economics, economic culture, and behavioral culture and is very well-versed in history. Shut your mouth and maybe you'll learn something. His work in politics and economics is poor? Where are you getting your information? The mainstream media? Castrate yourself so you can't weaken the gene pool more than it is now
lKennyDangerousl 2 months ago
@lKennyDangerousl Mate chill out
SwordInAir 2 months ago
@BaldyV
Chomsky is spot on with his political research. He makes sure that he has read up on everything that he speaks about so he can be sure that he's being completely accurate.
CarlSagan0101 2 months ago 2
The OWS movement is a total joke!
TimH1955 3 months ago
@TimH1955
It's in the right direction, but it's totally hypocritical - and in a global context if any change were to arise it would only be toward the benefit of Western Society. So at the end of the day, liberation is wanted within WS so long as it remains the worldly oppressor. The bottom-line will never leave us in conditions that are sub-standard to the current quality of living. At least that is what I speculate, and fear, will be the most positive outcome of Occupy on the global stage.
Erectoralporicy 3 months ago
I don't like that woman.
logicallunatic1 3 months ago
@logicallunatic1 so dour
SwordInAir 2 months ago
Someone could please write everything he said, for people of all around the world to translate this message for their language, please, this is so important, the system WILL collapse soon, and activist of the world must be synchronized....
ZumbiDesperto 3 months ago
ows is a bunch of leftist morons who want to expand government under the guise of stylish anarchistic clothing. what morons, it's the exact opposite of what anarchism is. ows needs to protest crony capitalism instead of advocating a welfare socialist society (only morons do that).
SanguineBullet667 3 months ago
@SanguineBullet667 Ah huh... It's not anarchism or socialism. It's everyone. Instead of focusing on how you differ from SOME of the people, why not find what you have in common?
dansemacabre17 3 months ago
:) "Woyaya"
vladdrac88 3 months ago
Great, now we've got a Zionist fanatic.
DarkMaelstrom 3 months ago
God Bless you Professor .. You told the truth, the government and the pillars of the government - senate,congress etc are all servants of the Corporations
kishgarner 3 months ago
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The Socialist Party USA supports the mobilizations to occupy Wall St. in New York and various cities across the US and encourages their locals to take part in these actions. That's why I don't.
rgdyk 3 months ago
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Rise up and Unite.Change will not come from politicians.We will bring it in our selves.
Lets not find a seat at the table thats all ready established.
Lets make a new table with our demands met.
End the FED.
End the corrupt system.
Jail to the bankers.
End monsanto foods.
End the monetary system.
Bring in the resource-based economy world wide.
smash1man 3 months ago
I just bloody hate it when these videos attract pin-headed fanatics with communism conspiracy theories.
DarkMaelstrom 3 months ago
The United States will just crumble out of it's own greed!!...more power, more power, more money, more money then BOOUUUMMM!!...it all implodes!!...corporations are all gone where it's safe for them to be when it happens!!...they know it's going to happen soon so that's why they're looking towards China where there's still room for them to grow bigger and bigger!!...then boouummm!!...watch out when the crash happens in China my friends!!...you better get the hell out quick!!..."Occupy China"!!!
rickthelup 3 months ago
why do they occupy wall st. instead of D.C.?
UltraProle21 3 months ago
@UltraProle21 in essence the practice of monetary policy is carried out by bankers...try to watch this documentary you will understand a lot.../watch?v=JXt1cayx0hs
korios101 3 months ago
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@UltraProle21 >> why do they occupy wall st. instead of D.C.?
Because the Leftists who took control of our government in D.C. organized the OWS protests and aimed them at the wrong target.
It's a way of taking all that pent-up frustration and emotion and pointing it at something the Leftists in government want to see destroyed - private employers.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 we agree that FED is the American central bank, dont we? is FED a goverment bank? if it is, why are FED gold reserves private and not public ? if FED gold reserves are private then the private capitals have every right to carrie out their own monetary policy.
korios101 3 months ago
@korios101 The US Constitution puts control of the printing of currency under Congress. An external lender is not legally allowed to create US currency and charge interest on the creation of that currency.
Abrahan Lincoln restored lawful creation of US currency. He got dead quickly. America's enemies rightly complained that policy would make the USA prosperous, debt-free and very attractive to people wanting to flee from brutal monarchies. They were correct.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 could you answer me the fucking question? who has the fucking authority to mint money, the US secretary of the treasury or the chairman of FED?
korios101 3 months ago
1:20
911wikileaks 3 months ago
"Glad to be with you... mm...
Hot damn... "
FrogmortonHotchkiss 3 months ago
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See Patricia McAllister's web site:... "Zionist Jew Fed Reserve.com.." Fired from LA School district for telling the truth.. Telling the truth is a powerful revolutionary act.. Being fired makes it self evident truth..
2ndSamuel710 3 months ago
RUSSIAN TV :))) HA!
platipot 3 months ago
Stupid self hating KIKE, fuck him dont believe a word of this lunatic.
ZionistIDF 3 months ago
@ZionistIDF Could you be a bit more specific in you're criticism ? What, precisely, do you, so emotionally object to ?. :)
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 A man who sells his own people and throws them under the bus is not to be taken seriously. Chomsky, Finklestein and the rest of the JudenRats are never to be taken seriously, they are evil and twisted.
ZionistIDF 3 months ago
@ZionistIDF What is evil and twisted is to support a foreign policy which will result in an endless series of wars with only one outcome. No nation is invincible. One day, Israel will catch another "Babylonian Captivity" or 'Roman Destruction of The Jewish State'. Unless you suggest Israel is exempt from Its Gods laws. In which case you seem evil and twisted to me.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 The bible says that when Israel returns from exile they will never again go into exile, I do believe in God and the words of the Prophets. I would rather die defending my people, my heritage, my religion than go down as an agent of the Nazi's. I go with my tribe through whatever challenges God will put us through, we stick together, thats the way it is, to go and support Hamas and all the other Jew hating organisations is considered as though you murdered the Jewish people.
ZionistIDF 3 months ago
@ZionistIDF In America many people are angry with the law which views corporations as persons. You know that there are a number of Orthodox rabbis who do not think the Israeli State is the work of God. I will not attempt to convince you. I to believe in the "Ten Commandments". Orthodox Jew, Christian, Muslim all acknowledge " Ten Commandments ". I see murder and theft on all sides. Taking a mans home or farm with a piece of paper is theft...a tooth for a tooth not a thousand teeth for one.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 The Supreme Court ruled that the persons in corporations could not be denied their free speech right to contribute to and support political candidates defending their interests.
Our Constitution prohibits interference with free speech. If it's okay for Unions and taxpayer-funded organizations to contribute to specific political causes, it is incomprehensible that private sector employees should be denied that same Right.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Sorry....what private sector employees are denied..? I wish money could somehow be driven wholly out of the election process, with media giving x amount of free time for candidates to present themselves, debate etc....US Media doing its part at public service....:) I'm dreaming.....
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 I also wish the candidates could be free of influence money. I agree with the notion of all candidates getting equal public service time.
We would have a problem, still, with unions compelling members to support Democrat candidates in various ways (or go to these OWS protests). Also, leftist groups like ACORN manipulating voters and the vote. Democrats setting up illegal aliens as voters...
But, yes, equal air time for the candidates.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 It is an enormously complex question. Is the media being owned by the wealthy an unfair advantage to them ?. No one should be compelled by anyone or anything other than their own good conscience. Do individuals have a right to geopardize their nations domestic tranquility in pursuit of personal profit? I think not. I agree setting up illegal aliens as voters is wrong. At the moment I'm not fond of either Democrats or Republicans. They are 'fighting in as burning house'.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 >> Is the media being owned by the wealthy an unfair advantage to them ?
When the media shape the "news" to serve an agenda, it certainly provides an unfair advantage. Let me ask - with all the Communist activity right in front of our noses, with all the work the Communist Party USA did to help Obama get elected... how often do CNN or MSNBC talk about the Communists and what they are doing?
Absence of exposure gives cover to the workers of mischief.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Communists ?. I think I know something about Communists. Grandpa who raised me fought them until 1922, leaving Russia with the last organized resistance. I wasn't drafted, I volunteered for Vietnam. Why would "Capitalists", who certainly own the major media, keep silent, seeing a "Communist" sympathizer President coming to office?. I think the answer is: Because Obama is no "Communist". I think that certain gangsters who call themselves "Capitalists" are looking for a scapegoat
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88
"Communists", who control our major media, ARE keeping the newsies silent. And they actively punish anyone trying to expose them.
When Lou Dobbs made the horrible mistake of stating a basic truth - that Obama continues paying lawyers to fight off anyone trying to verify he is eligible for office - they fired his ass promptly.
The Communist Party USA worked hard to put Obama into office and he appointed fellow Communists like Van Jones and John Holdren to control our nation.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 In America communism has no real power. It is not communism which has brought about Americas financial collapse but rather common criminals calling themselves capitalists like Madoff and Blankfein. Blankfein ( Goldman Sachs ) bet against his own customers and lied about it to Congress. By no means stupid but blinded by greed they sold our 'bundled' mortgages to most of Europe's major financial institutions. In effect they robbed the world and now they need a scapegoat.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 >> In America communism has no real power.
They have taken control of our government from the very highest office.
Communists actively destroy a nation's economy to bring it down while trying to blame the 'capitalists'. It's an old game.
Scroll down to the bottom of this article for the newspaper clipping from 1934...
ARE THE TEA PARTY THE "RADICAL FRINGE"?
usobserver*com/archive/aug-11/sayre-tea-party.html
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 Who caused the financial collapse?
"Affirmative Action" forced on the home lenders by Clinton Administration, leading to eventual disaster. Video of Clinton's HUD Secretary boasting of victory in forcing lenders to comply
youtube*com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64
Obama, working with ACORN, Sued Citibank Under CRA to Force it to Make Bad Loans – UPDATED
iusbvision*wordpress*com/2008/09/30/obama-sued-citibank-under-cra-to-force-it-to-make-bad-loans/
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 The suit was against "redlining". It did not force the banks to make bad loans. In general, when the banks don't like something, they take it all the way to the Supreme Court. As soon as Nixon 'opened the door to China' businessmen both from Europe and America went there in droves. There, frequently, workers who live in dormitories, going home a month or so a year, replaced the European and American workers. The Chinese worked for five dollars a day. It started thirty years ago
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 The suit was to compel banks to make loans against the rules of their business practices. The banks were not in trouble before that was forced on them.
As the situation spiraled toward the inevitable collapse, Democrats were defensive against anyone trying to stop the crash.
Shocking Video Unearthed: Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis
youtube*com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 I don't form my opinions based on one or two instances. Its my personal opinion that Europe and America were practically stripped of their factories by politicians allowing the uncontrolled flight of industrial manufacturing to China. As I see it Wall Street and large legal firms along with inept or corrupt politicians facilitated the bleed out by things like getting rid of Glass Steagall. Were those jobs still available, I think people would still be paying their mortgages.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 >> Europe and America were practically stripped of their factories by politicians allowing the uncontrolled flight of industrial manufacturing to China
I completely agree on that. It's the stated goal of the Obama Administration, to "de-develop" the United States. That's why he has appointed fellow Communists to run our nation (into the ground).
The Communists have won the Cold War and are carrying out their true objective, to knock the USA out of superpower status.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 It wasn't just the "allowing" of uncontrolled flight, it was causing it.
It's a well established understanding that the more costly regulation and taxation is imposed upon businesses, the less likely it is they can carry on business. Then Obama directly killed off US oil drillers in the Gulf of Mexico and invited Brazil to come take our oil. He directly shut down car dealerships after nationalizing them and General Motors.
It's war against us from the inside.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 :) You do know that I'm analyzing from what I see. All this stuff has been going on since long before Obama came into office. Certain wealthy 'Americans' and foreigners living in the US can stay wealthy regardless of what happens to the US or US companies because their money can be invested in profitable foreign companies. Driving the people with the most powerful military on the planet to revolution might have unforeseen consequences. I have to think on this a bit.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 I agree it has been going on a long time.
Scroll to the bottom of this article and look at the newspaper clipping from 1934. To publish it in today's newspaper, one only need change a couple of the names and faces on the Democrat's Donkey-pulled cart...
usobserver*com/archive/aug-11/sayre-tea-party.html
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 >> Driving the people with the most powerful military on the planet to revolution might have unforeseen consequences.
This scenario has played out before, in Chile. A guy named Allende was elected then began the "fundamental transformation" of his nation into a Communist dictatorship, just as ours is.
The Judiciary asked their military leader, Pinochet, to oust the Communists and restore rule of law. The commies put their OWS-style youth on the streets to be killed for propaganda.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 (Chile, cont.)
Our Communists learned from Chile. They installed some of their people in our Supreme Court to defang it and keep it from asking the military to restore obedience to our Constitution. They have effectively taken control of all three branches of our government now.
Al Gore gloated in 1996 that there is no longer a "controlling authority" to compel his ilk to obey the Constitution.
Civil war, with our government under communist control, would be... interesting.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Was not the Chilean Constitution altered by Pinochet and his supporters?. Was extralegal execution and torture not carried out by Pinochet's supporters?. That is a question, not an accusation.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 The Chilean Constitution was altered by the representative government of Chile. After a highly controversial referendum in 1980 Pinochet, who had been proclaimed president in 1974, was elected president and a new constitution approved to eliminate former Statist oppression.
These reforms made Chile a financial powerhouse and an example of great prosperity. Pinochet's policies were lauded internationally for transforming the Chilean economy and bringing about an "economic miracle".
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 Pinochet and his supporters were fighting a Leftist insurrection. It was a fight to see who would take control of the nation - the Libertarians or the Soviet-backed Leftists.
It is a fact many Leftist cells were rounded up and treated very harshly. They were, after all enemies of The People.
Note the parallel to Leftist operations growing in power in the USA, systematically pillaging and "de-developing" our nation, destroying it from the inside...
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 Left-wing organizations tried to set up groups of resistance fighters against the newly established government. Some of them, known as the GAP (Grupo de Amigos Personales), had previously served as bodyguards of President Allende. Many activists created groups of resistance groups from refugees abroad. The Lautaro Youth Movement (MJL) was formed in December 1982 and the Communist Party of Chile set up an armed wing, which became in 1983 the FPMR (Frente Patriótico Manuel Rodríguez).
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 After the Chilean military coup in 1973, Castro promised Chilean revolutionaries "all the aid in Cuba's power to provide." Throughout the 1970s, MIR guerrillas and several hundred Chilean exiles received military training in Cuba. Once their training was completed, Cuba helped the guerrillas return to Chile, providing false passports and false identification documents to establish terrorist operations.
It was an ongoing fight to keep the Communists under control.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 You do refer to 'Constitutions' a great deal. They are a new thing as history goes. What has been a constant is that if men do not have work that provides food and shelter for themselves and their families, they become violent and overthrow the existing order, whatever it may be. It seems to me that all the Constitutions are attempts at creating societies that will prosper and flourish in an orderly manner. Political Science and "Economics" tell us the causes of 'revolution'.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 And isn't it funny how ever Political abuse that has taken place, is always pursued under some selective guise of the constitution. It's just like religion in many respects. There's Islamic-followers in the mainstream who quote their doctrine as a message of peace, and then there's those that quote passages from the exact same doctrine to suggest themes of war in the name of ideological defence.
At the end of the day, it's all words -- people use them for anything. Violence - peace.
DarkMaelstrom 3 months ago
@DarkMaelstrom :) I find "Religion" a "Constitution" followed by very few. "Many call themselves Jews but are not". :) Same for Muslims and Christians. Orthodox Muslims, Christians, Jews, all are prohibited by their God, a number of kinds of behavior. They are the famous "Thou Shalt Not Kill", "Thou Shalt Not Steal". Lets not blame the rules few follow. Lets blame the traitors to their God who have added serpentine rationalizations saying its OK to break God's laws under certain circumstances.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 Yes. But do indulge me in this. Islam. Islamic LAW states that apostasy should be punishable by death. I mean, how do you reconcile the 'thou shalt not kill' notion with an ideology that believes in outright murdering anyone who decides one day, "well, this religion is not for me -- no offence to your guys -- good bye." People have used these very words to promote murder. Now look at another example: we have a Zionist nut case who makes AmericaSpeakOut1 seem sane.
DarkMaelstrom 3 months ago
@DarkMaelstrom I can't reconcile that. The only thing I can say is that I believe, as with Christians, Muslims have allowed to many 'holy men' to make additions to laws that were known before they were written. I'm not trying to duck any issues here :). The best explanation I can offer is this. When I was young, kids fought until one said 'I give'. Then it was over. It was almost a 'custom from the heart' ( soul ? ) An awful lot has changed since then,,,and I do mean awful. I'll add a littleltr
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 I don't think you're ducking an issue. See, I am an atheist, so to me, it's all philosophy. And I know there isn't a single philosophy that has a direct goal to spread or create blood-shed; they're all making attempts to form systems that might help humans coordinate themselves in a collective civilization. This is why I see all philosophies as nothing more than blue prints that are subjectively implemented by those looking to either benefit or exploit. Peace. Violence. Sad, really.
DarkMaelstrom 3 months ago
@DarkMaelstrom I think you're absolutely correct . I've spent more time than most 'civilians' trying to make a sort of 'academic proposal' about "religion" that would explain the 'phenomenon', because without 'proof' philosophy is philosophy : 'The ecological purpose of intelligent technological species is the preservation of biospheres and habitats, when the native planets and stars are no longer able to do so'. Accomplishing this ' E. P. ' requires a peaceful cooperative social organization.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 You've really thought this one out, so I am going to respectfully nod and agree with the general idea that you're promoting. I think this makes for a compelling argument against fanaticism and general understanding of philosophies and cultural blue-prints for the greater betterment. This 'My Capitalist versus Your Communist' meme needs to be put to rest. At the end of the day, our biospheres and habitats are paramount indeed -- I like where you're taking this thinking.
DarkMaelstrom 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 There have been enormous changes since the 1970's. Both China and Russia have rejected "Communism". I want to think a bit about the response I'd like to make to you're posts. Tomorrow night I think I might come up with the wording I'm looking for.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 >> Both China and Russia have rejected "Communism".
Perhaps Russia has. China's government still exerts top-down control over the means of production and distribution of wealth. It allows a little more freedom on the part of Party-loyalists to run businesses, yet the workers are still slaves. It does NOT allow individual equality, Rights, or the freedom to pursue one's own interests free of State control.
I don't know the status of Russia in that regard.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Now this. . . is more accurate. What any of this has to do with communism, is another story. Or to quote Noam Chomsky, "FAKE SOCIALISM."
DarkMaelstrom 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Russia is going through a kind of roaring twenties :) China, the Chinese Government has more than a billion and a half people to consider. A problem no other nation has. It seems to me, they are doing the best they can with what they have got. I also entirely approve of the Chinese Governments approach to crooked businesspeople. Not all the workers are slaves by any means. One has made his corporate headquarters look like The Capitol Buildings of the US.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 *Sighs.* Dude. You're a reasonable, individualistic, open-minded thinker. Why are you giving audience to this Constitutional fanatic and his phobia of 'fake socialism' that he extrapolates and applies to all forms of political reform without a single digit's worth of education or knowledge of concepts and themes.
DarkMaelstrom 3 months ago
@DarkMaelstrom I'll answer openly. :) I talk to anyone with a clear idea whether I agree with them or not. I think ninety nine percent of all of us are looking for 'domestic tranquility, peace and security for our families and neighbors. I'll 'talk for that' until the very last second before the guns come out. My family lost more than half its members to wars and revolutions. That is what drives me.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 Noble intents and pursuit. I just felt that your genuine attempts at establishing dialogue were being responded by rehearsed socialist-phobia (OH TEH COMMIES! TEEH COMIES GAIS!) befitting of an equally polarised fanatical thinking that is becoming all too common in the 'freeworldTM'..
DarkMaelstrom 3 months ago
@DarkMaelstrom
What is a "constitutional fanatic"? An American.
You know, someone who believes in American principles, the rule of law, defense of equal Rights for all Americans, who stands against tyranny and oppression.
If you're well steeped in leftist ideology I can see why you would disparage such a person. You're playing for the "against-American" or "anti-American" team, after all.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Collectivising and jumping to irrational conclusions. If that the state of Pro America, then I don't think it needs any outside forces to take it down.
*Face Palm.*
DarkMaelstrom 3 months ago
@DarkMaelstrom >> rehearsed socialist-phobia (OH TEH COMMIES! TEEH COMIES GAIS!)
When you say something like that, you demonstrate a profound ignorance of reality.
The Communist Party USA worked hard to put Obama. The Che Guevara banner was on his campaign office wall. He appointed fellow Communists as Czars to help "fundamentally transform" our nation in ways that are forbidden by the US Constitution.
Look who won the Cold War.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Correction: Communist Party USA worked hard to put Obama into office - and bragged openly about it. Not that our mainstream news let the American People know about it.
And that Ernesto Guevara banner on Obama's campaign office wall?
“If the missiles had remained, we would have fired them against the very heart of the U.S., including New York. The victory of socialism is well worth millions of atomic victims.” (Che Guevara, November 1962.)
Yeah, THAT Ernesto Guevara.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 . . .man. That's really eye-opening. The other day, I was looking at the moon, and it like, totally came down to Earth and settled into my left pocket -- it was actually very tiny. That must mean that this moon thing is like some conspiracy to make us all believe that we're genuinely making progress into space exploration. THOSE DAMN COMMIES!
DarkMaelstrom 3 months ago
@DarkMaelstrom Its not the damn commies its the ones who won't capitalize the project.
vladdrac88 3 months ago
@vladdrac88 My bad, dude.
DarkMaelstrom 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 . . .so all his pro-crony policies are a cover for a a Communist take over? So in a metaphorical sense, he's pretending to be gay, just so the homophobes can finally claim victory?
Wow. Just. Wow.
DarkMaelstrom 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 In the past, the rich have blamed the Jews for their own failures. This has grown somewhat difficult since A. Hitler. Now, a new Judas Goat has been found, "Communist" because 'they' figure on the knee jerk reaction after a half century of cold war. They have no one to blame but themselves. It was 'They' themselves who GAVE China to many jobs, not out of consideration for the Chinese People or their fellow citizens but out of blind to the consequences greed.
vladdrac88 3 months ago