Semper Fi! i always wear a "high and tight", but unfortunately, the size of my uniforms could not keep up with the body growth. that is irrelevant because although i can not wear my dress blues,alphas and other's, i still prouldly and always will wear the title: UNITED STATES MARINE. YOU CAN TAKE THE MARINE OUT OF THE CORPS, BUT YOU CAN NOT AND WILL NOT TAKE CORPS OUT OF THE MARINE! SEMPER FI UNTIL THE DAY WE DIE!
Amazed at the postive responses....not a Marine...from my historical perspective....frankly, this is crap....no...this is CRAP. I could argue the specifics...but, clearly, why bother? It's not about gaY, it's not about women, it's about the willingness of an expanding society to use force....we are no longer an expandomg society.....
I was in the Army guard for 6 years, and the Navy active for 10 years. I have worked with as part of a TEAM people. After watching them take the trip from the ship to the shore, there will always be a place if my heart for the USMC.
Actually Sergeant you were still in regulation. If I remember correctly zero to four inches is the reg, Never mind the fact that you were still able to fit in your Delta's after SIXTEEN years! Shoot the only thing that fits me still is my stinkin' cover. I'm pretty sure that we might have served together. I was in Somolia in October of 92, did the WestPac tour, Japan and then San DIego. My EAS was in 96. Semper Fi my brother!
@dabandmanager Sounds like you had a fun filled enlistment just like me. I was actually in Mogadishu in '94. I went in with 3/6 to secure the airport for the withdraw of US forces. That was 3 months of what should have been a 6 month Med float. I did cold weather training twice (Norway), deployed to Cuba in '95 to police Haitian refugee camps, deployed to the coast of Haiti in '94 with stops in Great Inagua and Puerto Rico. Check back or subscribe - I'm working on a song commemorating 9/11
@dabandmanager Sounds like you had a fun filled enlistment just like me. I was actually in Mogadishu in '94. I went in with 3/6 to secure the airport for the withdraw of US forces. That was 3 months of what should have been a 6 month Med float. I did cold weather training twice (Norway), deployed to Cuba in '95 to police Haitian refugee camps, deployed to the coast of Haiti in '94 with stops in Great Inagua and Puerto Rico. Check back or subscribe - I'm working on a song commemorating 9/11
Before everyone gets carried away by the fact that I’m out of regs in this video – What you’re actually seeing is a guy (me) trying on his uniform for shits and giggles, 16 years after being discharged from active duty. So no, my hair and uniform wasn’t within regs but when I walked downstairs and saw my 3 little kid’s faces, I could see that they didn’t really care that I didn’t have a ‘high and tight’. I served in Somalia, Gitmo, Med floats, Norway, etc and I'd do it all again!
The music was good, the idea for the video interesting and I liked it over all. Yes, I noticed that his hair was out of regs and if you pause at the right point, you'll notice that he is wearing his green service trousers and putting on the dress blues cover. He is also missing his web belt, from the looks of it. I know you don't put the cover on indoors, but it would be hard to get that whole effect without doing so. Perhaps he should have just taken it off as he was leaving.
@natedogbfd The Marine corps was not the first armed service to fight in defense of the US. The Continental Army was established on June 14, 1775, about 5 months prior to the Continental Marines. The troops who became the Continental Army started fighting the British two months before that.
@GamingForLife96 If you do a google search on exarmydoc, you'll see he posts the exact same crap all over the internet, trolling for responses from marines. Obviously, he tried to get in, and was rejected by the corps, and has been bitter about it ever since.
bill3979isanasshole recently said "They only used the marines for the real important stuff, the battles the army couldn't handle."
Army troops were committed to Guadalcanal, Saipan, Guam and Peleliu because the Marines couldn't handle those battles. No Marines were ever committed to the battles in Europe, even after Kasserine, even after the Ardennes. The Army handled the Ardennes all on its own, and it was not a fight against an isolated, outnumbered force.
the fact that you outnumbered the Germans in the west nearly 5 to 1 and are still complaining is a sign of real weakness. Am I to believe one Wehrmacht soldier equals 4 Americans and 1 Brit or Canadian?
Atleast we never outnumbered the japs more than 3 to 1 and still came out with 1 to 3-4 kill ratio.
@USMarineRifleman0311 At the day landings, the German army outnumbered the allies.The first priority after DDay was to expand the beachhead in order to land more troops in Europe. In any event, the odds were not 5 to 1 in favor of the Allies. In any event, in the only battles the Marines won in the Pacific, Roi-Namur, Tarawa, Iwo Jima, the Marines outnumbered the enemy. The islands they assaulted were isolated, cut off, the garrisons thereof unable to replenish their losses.
Pay no attention to the loser that posts on here as "exarmydoc".
If you do a google search on this moron, you'll see he posts the exact same crap all over the internet, trolling for responses from marines. Obviously, he tried to get in, and was rejected by the corps, and has been bitter about it ever since.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Your kill ratio was more due to the Japanese determination to fight to the death rather than surrender on Tarawa and on other islands. Considering the planners of Tarawa expected to pay a small price for taking Tarawa, the more than 3000 killed and wounded is indicative of a fiasco, not a triumph. Kwajalein was larger than Tarawa, fortified, just as heavily garrisoned. 7th ID took it in 3 days at a cost of less than 1000 killed and wounded.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Your kill ratio was more due to the Japanese determination to fight to the death rather than surrender on Tarawa and on other islands. Considering the planners of Tarawa expected to pay a small price for taking Tarawa, the more than 3000 killed and wounded is indicative of a fiasco, not a triumph. Kwajalein was larger than Tarawa, fortified, just as heavily garrisoned. 7th ID took it in 3 days at a cost of less than 1000 killed and wounded.
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Army won Battles in Africa, Sicily, Italy, France, and Germany, defeating larger forces than the Marines. The Army also won battles in the Pacific without the help of the Marines. In the Pacific, the Marines won only three battles on their own, Tarawa, Iwo Jima, and Roi-Namur, which I forgot to mention earlier. Guadalcanal, Saipan, Guam, Peleliu all were won when Army troops were committed.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Why did Hitler cancel the attack at Kursk and transfer units like 1st SS and 2nd SS Panzer Divisions to Europe after the allies landed in Italy?
Hitler transferred a number of mobile divisions to France anticipating the invasion of France. France was closer to Germany's centers of war industry than the Russian Front.
The 1st LSSAH and 2nd Das Reich remained in force on the western front until after the Ardennes offensive, they were sent to rest in Italy in 1943. Because American armor is easier to fend off, they treated the western allies with contempt. Op Zitadelle was not cancelled and that was back in 1943. LSSAH wouldnt arrive to Normandy till April 1944 time. They went back to participate in the Spring offensive in 45
@USMarineRifleman0311 Read Paul Carel's "Scorched Earth", a German account of the War with Russia. Hitler cancelled Operation Citadel when the allies landed in Europe and sent Armored reinforcements to Italy. If the Allies armor was so easy to defeat, why did the Germans lose the Battle of Arrancourt. Why were they unable to cut off Patton's advance into France at the Battle of Mortain?
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Army, not the Marine Corps, won this nation's wars. A few Marines participate in an operation, Like Chapultepec or the Defense of the Philippines, they do little fighting. Marines then expect that they, not the Soldiers who did the fighting, should get credit for the victory. Not very honorable.
@exarmydoc there is no doubt in my mind that you know your history but you are purposely distorting history to steal credit away from the Marine Corps contributions in wars and to give it all to the Army. I give credit where credit is due. You on the other hand refuse to. As a Marine myself, one of my favorite Marines of all time is Chesty Puller but i in no way try to take away credit from from Army personel like General Patten and the contributions of his men.
During Operation Cottage after Allied forces occupied Kiska Island, US and Canadian forces mistook each other as Japanese and engaged each other in a deadly firefight. As a result 28 Americans and 4 Canadians were killed with 50 more wounded. There were no Japanese troops on the island two weeks before US and Canadian Forces landed. This is why I dont trust the us army
@USMarineRifleman0311 On Peleliu, William Rupertus tried to keep the Army out of the battle and as a result thousands of Marines were killed or wounded.
a result? that wouldve happened regardless. Someone else had to do it. Were we supposed to come back and flip a fucking coin?
If youve been in the infantry a grunt, youd know that mission assignement is everything and to be assigned the best mission, best sector means everything. What happened when we left Bellau Wood for some RR happened to my own unit after leaving Iraq. Its no wonder why iraq is on the verge of going to shit again.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Marines have never been assigned the toughest assignments. The toughest assignments in WWII were East of the Atlantic. Insignificant numbers of Marines served in those theaters. Marine victories like Tarawa, Peleliu and Iwo Jima turned out to be tough assignments because Marine Commanders underestimated the Japanese and planned and executed poorly.
@USMarineRifleman0311 "please dont talk about understimation or I'll start right over from 1775 and its gonna be Camden to Hurtgen Forest and Anzio all over again." Please do. Even if you don't intend it that way you are admitting the US Army, defeats and all, did more to defend the USA in the past 236 years than did the Marine Corps.
the reason, quality of the army is immediately questioned is how it does on its own, without Marine intereference like at the Kasserine Pass. Complancy during the Bulge was another example of a mistake that was never made by Marine grunts.
@USMarineRifleman0311 No. Marine Generals got a lot of Marines killed on Tarawa, Saipan, Guam and Peleliu by underestimating the enemy, just like Eisenhower admittedly underestimated the chances of a German counter attack through the Ardennes. In spite of being surprised, the Army won that battle.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Marine generals got thousands of marines killed or wounded by underestimating Japanese resistance on Tarawa, Saipan, Peleliu and Iwo Jima. Before Iwo Jima they had the previous campaigns to learn from. They went into Iwo Jima believing that only three days would be needed to take and secure Iwo Jima. It took more than a month.
thousands killed on Peleliu? one. A mere 1009 died taking Tarawa in 3 days. These are mere pennies compared to what the army paid for 9km by 500yds of beach on june 6th.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Regarding killed and wounded, the 2nd Marine Division took over 3000 casualties on Tarawa. The 7th Infantry Division took Kwajalein Island in three days losing fewer than 1000 killed and wounded. While 7th ID was taking Kwajalein, 4th Marine Division was taking Roi-Namur. 4th Marine Division took more kia in 1 day thsn 7th ID took in 3 days.
@USMarineRifleman0311 When the 31st RCT was trying to break out from the East side of Chosin, Marine aircraft dropped napalm on them. In Viet Nam, a Marine Corps F4 dropped a 500 pound bomb on the 2nd Battalion (Airborne) 503d Infantry, 173d Airborne Brigade while they were in heavy contact with a numerically superior NVA force on 19 November 1967.
@USMarineRifleman0311 On its own, the Army did more battles in North Africa than it lost, did win the campaign for France, did win its campaign in italy, all larger operations than what the Marines carried out in the Pacific. Guadalcanal, Saipan, Guam, Peleliu were won because Army troops were committed. The Marines actually won only 2 battles on their own, Tarawa and Iwo Jima, both at the expense of heavy casualties.
@bill3979isanasshole That job was not the mission of fighting the more dangerous enemy. The Marines did not have enough personnel to do the job in the Pacific. More Soldiers than Marines fought in the Pacific.
@bill3979isanasshole When the First Marine Division needed reinforcing on Guadalcanal, most of the reinforcements were soldiers. Soldiers cleared Guadalcanal of Japanese troops a month after the First Marine Division was withdrawn. That does not say the First Marine Division handled Guadalcanal on its own.
@bill3979isanasshole So why did they not use the Marines in the largest amphibious assault in History? It wasn't because Eisenhower did not like the Marines. It was because Ernest King wanted to use the Marines to fight the Japanese rather than release them to fight the more dangerous enemy, Germany.
Germans would surrender in thousands and somehow theyre worse than the japs? How deluded are you?
It took months for the army to actually break out of the normandy bocage country.
Marines got the Pacific because we didnt have the armor for a full on land war in Europe. It would mean switching theaters of operation that would complicate logistical operations more than was needed at that time in history.
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Germans surrendered by the thousands in North Africa because they were cut off and unable to resist. The same applies to the Germans who surrendered in the Argentan-Falaise pocket. The same applies to the Germans who surrendered in the Ruhr Pocket. They were thoroughly beaten on the Battlefield. That is something the Marines have never done in their history, captured an enemy army numbering in the thousands.
@USMarineRifleman0311 "Marines got the Pacific because we didnt have the armor for a full on land war in Europe. It would mean switching theaters of operation that would complicate logistical operations more than was needed at that time in history." Why do the Marines claim the Marines were excluded from the ETO because the Army didn't want to be upstaged by them. The real reason the best amphibious troops in the world did not fight on Dday was that Admiral King wouldn't release them.
@exarmydoc Dude your rediculous with your arguments. You are so one sided in everything you quote. you give the Army credit for everything good they've ever done and you give some piss poor excuse for everything good that the Marine Corps has ever done. its obvious that you are jealous of the Marine Corps. There has been multiple Army Officers, a president, and countless enemies who have Quoted or wrote about the speed, tenacity, and the ferociousness of the Marine Corps.
@bill3979isanasshole The Marines needed Army Divisions to win on Saipan, Guam and Peleliu. They needed Army Divisions to win on Guadalcanal. Actually, all the Marines had left Guadalcanal by the time the Army started the offensive which cleared Guadalcanal. What battle did the Marines handle because the Army couldn't.
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Marines in WWII had a top strength of 600,000 men. Nevertheless they felt they deserved greater credit for winning the war than did the US Army, which fought in every major theater in the War. If the Marines ever went up against the Wehrmacht, they would have been slaughtered. The Marine Doctrine was that the direct frontal assault was the tactic for every situation. The Wehrmacht was very good at retreating, drawing the attacker in and then beating him soundly.
try 485,000, minus 100,000 for ground attack troops. The Wehrmacht hahah ok
The fucking jap has been fighting in jungle since the 30s. He was a veteran in his own field, we had experience from the Banana wars and tried to match his jungle experience. We took about 110 japs prisoners on Iwo, remind me how many wehrmacht kids surrendered on the westfront? or committed suicide bayonet charges...or came running at soldiers with live grenades?
@USMarineRifleman0311 Iwo Jima was not jungle. In any event, had those Japanese withdrew instead of killing themselves in meaningless suicide charges, they would have lived to fight another day. Incidentally, so many Marines died on Peleliu and Iwo Jima because Marine Corps generals mistakenly believed they would conduct suicide charges on the Marines. They did not and Marines died, thanks to the Marine Generals.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Again, your kill ratio over the Japanese was more due to the Japanese determination to die rather than any special prowess on the part of the Marines.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Marines claim that HM Smith warned the 27th ID of the gyokusai that happened on 7 July 1944. HM Smith never prepared to meet the said attack. While the attack was happening he played down the intensity of the attack. Prior to the attack, he reinforced not the 27th ID but the 4th Marine Division. HM Smith was as clueless as to Japanese intentions on Saipan as General Eisenhower was about German intentions in the Ardennes.
so in short what you're saying is Smith was on his guard and non complacent, and Eisenhower decided to shrug off the potential danger to his own armies just for the sake of christmas?
Marines are reckless and overconfident but not complacent.
By 1944, no allied army lost 23,000 members as prisoners of war. You can thank Ike. Have him also explain Malmedy.
@USMarineRifleman0311 I am saying HM Smith was more of a Lloyd Fredendall than an Irwin Rommel or a George Patton. He, a lot of other Marines, and a lot of Marine admirers have libelled and slandered the 27th ID just to protect the Corps from having to admit his shortcomings(although the Corps did not allow him to command troops again after Saipan. Harry Schmidt actually commanded V Amphibious Corps on Iwo Jima).
@USMarineRifleman0311 You again admit the Army fought the larger and more significant battles in this country's history. While the Marines fought many tough battles in the Pacific, after Guadalcanal they never fought a battle they had a chance to lose. Tarawa, Saipan, Guam, Peleliu, Iwo Jima were all battles against outnumbered, isolated Japanese garrisons.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Marine Corps leaders got thousands of Marines killed on first Tarawa, then Peleliu, then Iwo Jima because they believed the Marines were invincible. They kept repeating a gross mistake. The Army never repeated the mistake of Kasserine. They won the Bulge(could any Marine unit have done something like 3rd Army did to relieve Bastogne?). The Marines needed the Army to win on Saipan, Guam and Peleliu.
There was 1,009 KIA Marines on Tarawa and nearly 5,000 KIA japs.
Lets compare:
43,000 us army infantry landed on omaha to take it from a wehrmacht force of 7,000 and suffered 3x of what the Germans took. Hurtgen forest 3:1 US to German casaulty ratio. The battle was a German defensive victory for 5 months.
We dont need the army to do shit, the work on Peleliu was already over before the army got there.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Except for the Seminoles, the Marines never fought any indians. If the Marines never lost to the Seminoles, it was because they were too busy fighting the soldiers.
@USMarineRifleman0311 One reason 31st RCT lost so heavily at Chosin was that OP Smith kept their tank company at Hagaru-Ri. He also kept the 31st RCT's medics at Hagaru Ri to treat his wounded.
I never mentioned Chosin or RCT 31, and since we're speaking in this international language, let agree to refrain from slandering our own countrymen's dying huh? Because trust me, I know both the Army's and USMC's weak points in history that they dont want to talk about
@USMarineRifleman0311 General O.P. Smith accused the 31st RCT of throwing down their arms and running. They actually fought to the death taking out two Chinese divisions which 1st Marine Division otherwise would have had to fight. General OP Smith certainly did not refrain from slandering the soldiers of the 31st RCT.
@USMarineRifleman0311 That comment is as meaningful as the article, "How Marine POWs Hung Tough"
By Gregory J. W. Urwin. This fellow said that it was a testament to the toughness of the Marines that not one Marine died on the Bataan Death March. Mr. Urwin neglected to mention that only 43 of the 11,700 US military Personnel on the Death March were Marines.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Guadalcanal was undefended when the 1st Marine Division landed. Vandegrift had more than 10,000 Marines on Guadalcanal before the 164th nd 182nd Infantry regiments landed, The Ichiki detachment, the first Japanese troops the Marines fought numbered slightly less than 1000 men. The second battle they fought was against the Kawaguchi detachment which numbered fewer than 4000 men.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Why did How Gregory J. W. Urwin make a big deal of this, that not one of the 650 US deaths on the Bataan Death March were Marines? Mr. Urwin failed to mention that almost no Marines participated in the Death March. He seemed to think Marines deserved some recognition for surviving the Death March. How Marine POWs Hung Tough published in the magazine World WarII on May 08, 2008.
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Marines were incapable of fighting the Indians. That is why the Marines never lost a battle to the Indians. At the time of the Indian Wars, after the Revolution, the War of 1812, the Mexican War and the Civil War, the Marines still did not have a lot of experience in ground warfare.
This refers to the fighting against the plains indians, not the seminoles in Florida.
@USMarineRifleman0311: Look up "Esek Hopkins, commander-in-chief of the continental navy during the American Revolution" By Edward Field. The Marines faced very little resistance when they captured Nassau. They took away cannon and shot. Most of the gunpowder had been sent off New Providence Island before the Marines landed. The Continental Army already had heavy artillery, which had been captured at Fort Ticonderoga.
@USMarineRifleman0311: This is from Wikipedia, which I know many do not like."Fort Montagu is a small fort of four cannon on the eastern shore of New Providence Island (Nassau) Bahamas." "Captain Samuel Nicholas landed with his 234 Marines two miles east of Fort Montagu. The Bahamian militia retreated to Fort Nassau, so Fort Montagu fell unopposed."
@USMarineRifleman0311 You need to study history. What won the American Revolution was the ground war. The Continental Army, from which the US Army came, fought and won the ground war, in spite of multiple defeats, with no help from the Continental Marines. That does not support the allegation, that the Marines have been in the forefront of all of America's wars.
Pay no attention to the loser that posts on here as "exarmydoc".
If you do a google search on this moron, you'll see he posts the exact same crap all over the internet, trolling for responses from marines. Obviously, he tried to get in, and was rejected by the corps, and has been bitter about it ever since.
Pay no attention to the loser that posts on here as "exarmydoc".
If you do a google search on this moron, you'll see he posts the exact same crap all over the internet, trolling for responses from marines. Obviously, he tried to get in, and was rejected by the corps, and has been bitter about it ever since.
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As a retired Army Officer, I object to the Marine Corps 1)disrespecting the Army which has a longer and more extensive history of the Marine Corps 2) trying to claim credit for Army accomplishments, fighting in the Battle of Trenton, playing a significant role in the Battle of New Orleans 3)blaming Marine fiascos on the Army, HM Smith's inept performance as a ground commander on Saipan, the ineptitude of the Marine general who conducted the Peleliu operation.
@exarmydoc With all due respect sir, you need to start a blog. Your observations are misplaced here. At the end of the video I said "Dedicated to ALL those who have served". Not just Marines. I respect all branches but it just so happens that I am a Marine. You need to get over yourself and your wasted animosity. Go be happy and enjoy the freedom that we ALL fought for.
@71259mark I can handle the truth about the US Army better than you can,namely, that the US Army has compiled a much more extensive record of service to the Defense of the US, that this record resulted mostly from how the Army fought.
@exarmydoc as a Marine, I object to the ineptitude of the Army. I object to us having to have gone saved the Army's ass twice in Fallujah. I claim the fact that the USMC has never lost a battle. I want you to look at the Korean War, and the Chosen Reservoir. And if you want to be respected more by Marines, how about have your branch have a tough boot camp. And not be complete slobs.
@cpem2007 3/10th If you really expect the Marine Corps, tell your beloved Corps to stop fabricating its history, stop claiming credit for Army accomplishments, and acknowledge that Soldiers did a lot of fighting and dying in the cause of the Marines' outstanding combat record.
The 3st RCT saved the Marines' butts at Chosin.
Guadalcanal, Saipan, Guam, Peleliu were victories because of the Army troops who were committed.
@exarmydoc you are an idiot, you have such a revisionists mentality. Just because the Marines is too good for you, doesn't mean you can reinvent reality. Sorry but you are a dumb-ass
@cpem2007 "Up to that tine, a lot of people just thought the Army folks collapsed, they were overrun and didn't hold themselves up well," said retired Marine Col. Robert Parrott, a Fairfax County resident who served at Chosin..."Maybe I'm talking to you now because of what the Army did," said Parrott, who was wounded in the fighting."
@cpem2007 "With the passage of time and access to former enemy military historical files, to which reference is made in the following paragraph, historians now reveal that the 31st RCT (minus a tactical battalion) took on two full Chinese Divisions (the 80th and 81st CCf Divisions), plus possibly a regiment from a third (94th CCF) division.
@cpem2007 "If this avalanche of Chinese manpower had bypassed the 31st RCT to initally attack East Hill at Hagaru-Ri, instead of spending nearly five days laying seige to this strategically inconsequential Army Force, then Hagaru might have tragically fallen, and the bulk of the First Marine Division at Yudam-ni would not have had this vital logistic/staging base to which to withdraw.
@exarmydoc Robert E. Parrott, who retired as a full colonel, was a decorated veteran of the Chosin Reservoir campaign who credited the 31st RCT with playing a vital role at Chosin.
31st RCT fought two Chinese divisions, one of which had been reinforced by a regiment of a third division. If the 31st RCT had not fought at Chosin, there would have been two, possibly three, Chinese infantry divisions advancing unopposed down the East side of the Chosin Reservoir headed for Hagaru Ri.That is fact.
@cpem2007 What am I revising about History. The Marine Corps was never a significant part of the US Armed Forces until WWII. In WWII, they did not make the main American effort against the more dangerous foe. Marines and Marine admirers have embellished the History of the Marine Corps(e.g. the legend of the blood stripe). Marines and Marine admirers have claimed credit for what the Army did. Marines and Marine admirers have blmed Marine CFs on the Army(Saipan, Peleliu).
The Marines numbered at less than 2,000 during the revolution, and yet they wrote more history and legends, took part in more raids than any 2,000 militia or cont. army members. You cant find a regiment that has more history than the US Marines 1775-1783.
We fought our counterparts, the RMs and won in every face to face engagement, except the obvious case when the navy ordered the abandonment and burning of their ships at Champlain.
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Marines in the Revolution did nothing legendary. Maybe that is why in 1921 the Marine Corps Gazette published an article claiming, falsely, that the Continental Marines were the key to the victories at Trenton and Princeton. Read either "The Winter Soldiers" or "Washington's Crossing" to learn why those battles were the most crucial in the nation's history. What did the Marines contribute either Saratoga or Yorktown.
All history books regarding Continental Marines and the Trenton battle admit that Calawader's battalion crossed down river from Trenton and took positions along the Assunpink creek, its only you who is butthurt over bragging rights to capturing a bunch of Hessians. Expecting 18th century Marines to fight enmasse on land is like expecting the modern day coast guard to take Fallujah. They had specialist mission during their time and they served them well in enemy's own waters
@USMarineRifleman0311 I say again, in 1921, The Marine Corps Gazette, published a story which said that 600 continental Marines reinforced General Washington's Army before Trenton, that all 600 Marines fought at Trenton and Princeton, that these 600 Marines were the key to Washington's victories at Trenton and Princeton. The History Channe Documentary, Battle History of the US Marines, was authored by a Marine Corps officer. It was claimed that a Battalion of Marines fought at Trenton.
@USMarineRifleman0311 John Glover's Continental regiment from Gloucester Ma, Edward Hand's Pennsylvania Rifle Regiment, Daniel Morgan's Riflemen all did more to win the Revolution than the Continental Marines. Read about the raid on Whitehaven. Marine Lieutenant Wallingford led one of the raiding parties. Wallingford and his men were more interested in a local pub than they were in burning ships.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Whatever raids those accomplished, they had no effect on the outcome of the Revolution. What won the Revolution were the Battles, both victories and defeats, fought by the Soldiers of the Continental Army. If not for the victories won by the Continental Army, the United States Marine Corps would never have come into existence. There would have been no United States in 1798, which is when the United States Marines were organized.
Whitehaven had no outcome? have you no clue how many british civilians moved away from their own coastlines? A handful of British ships were tied up guarding their own waters after HMS Drake, Treppassey and Atalanta were taken. All in seperate raids. The diplomatic effects this had on the French were immense. They financed alot more raids and ships to be outfitted for the Cont Navy and sailed out of French harbors
@USMarineRifleman0311 USS Alliance, commanded by John Barry, captured Atlanta and Trespassey, not John Paul Jones in the Ranger. France had already committed to an alliance with the Americans, because of the Battles of Saratoga, Brandywine and Germantown. Before that, via the company of Roderigue Hortalez and Co, set up by Pierre Beaumarchais, the French were supporting the American Revolution as far back as 1776.
@USMarineRifleman0311 The first ship ever fitted out in Europe for the Continental Navy was Bon Homme Richard, which was not a very powerful ship. Then came Indien, which was chartered to the South Carolina Navy and sailed as South Carolina but which did not have a successful career.
The Richarde was an East Indiaman yes, slow and outgunned by the Serapis, but the captain and his French Marines obviously knew how to turn the tide and adopt someone elses ship when the first opportunity came up. It was a helluva trade off. Especially since the Serapis had more guns and was literally brand new before Flameborough.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Whatever John Paul Jones did in British Waters, it did not affect British plans to shift their main effort in North America to the South. That effort ultimately failed because of the battles fought by the Continental Army, the victories and the defeats.
The effects of the raids reverberated throughout the British countryside and more importantly its coastlines were 100% on guard till the end of the war. Which meant more troops tied up guarding England and 50,000 less killing the brave cont. soldiers. More British ships patrolling the coasts, meant less Brit ships raiding US and allied shipping lines supporting the fight on the continent. Less Brit ships landing troops to reinforce Cornwallis
@USMarineRifleman0311 After sending so many troops to North America, Great Britain did not have 50,000 troops left to guard its home territory. Great Britain did not recall any of its troops from North America.
@USMarineRifleman0311 Ranger was a sloop of war, 18 6 pounder cannon, less than 150 men. The British did not do a major redeployment to deal with Ranger. By the time Ranger entered British waters, the alliance between the US and France was official. Atlanta and Trespassey were taken by Alliance in 1783, after Yorktown fell. Before John Paul Jones arrived in French waters, a squadron under Lambert Wickes had already raided British commerce and had done more damage than John Paul Jones.
@USMarineRifleman0311 The 2000 Marines, between 1775 and 1783, took total casualties of 499 killed and 70 wounded. Their major accomplishments were twice capturing the undefended town of Nassau. The munitions captured at the first raid went to fitting out the Continental Navy. The casualties show the Continental Marines did not do a whole lot of fighting in the Revolution.
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sawkat32 1 month ago
Beautiful, speechless. Semper Fi!
atsigndollarx2 1 month ago
Semper Fi, Brother! OUTFREAKIN' STANDING!!
devildog1268 1 month ago
@devildog1268 Thanks Marine! Be sure and subscribe, There's more good stuff on the way!!! Semper Fi
jtreed05 1 month ago
He went into the Marines as a boy and he came home a man.
MsPhotoclick 1 month ago
Semper Fi! i always wear a "high and tight", but unfortunately, the size of my uniforms could not keep up with the body growth. that is irrelevant because although i can not wear my dress blues,alphas and other's, i still prouldly and always will wear the title: UNITED STATES MARINE. YOU CAN TAKE THE MARINE OUT OF THE CORPS, BUT YOU CAN NOT AND WILL NOT TAKE CORPS OUT OF THE MARINE! SEMPER FI UNTIL THE DAY WE DIE!
jarhead8890 1 month ago 2
I think this video is great. Thanks for posting.
pisty24 1 month ago
great video in bringing back memories of my oldest son raiding my closet and putting all my uniforms
he has now informed me he wants to be a marine like his dad
semper fi
65Grunt 2 months ago 2
@65Grunt dont worry i do the same to my dad...saddly hes currently deployed
97devilpup 1 month ago
Semper Fi Marine.
deborahstacy78 2 months ago
Iwo Jima...Greatest MARINES triumpth
USMC101011 2 months ago
Amazed at the postive responses....not a Marine...from my historical perspective....frankly, this is crap....no...this is CRAP. I could argue the specifics...but, clearly, why bother? It's not about gaY, it's not about women, it's about the willingness of an expanding society to use force....we are no longer an expandomg society.....
skiprydell1 2 months ago
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Flemdog1985......Man you can't be that stupid.
jpo2084028 3 months ago
jtreed, you can still wear em?????
damn i'm jealous.
i served from 84 to 88 in Cali, Okinawa and the Phillipines.
between "that little island escapade" and DS1.
Semper fi My brothers
anothercarpenter 3 months ago
Nice video, Happy Birthday to the Marines and GET THOSE OBAMA ADS OFF THIS VIDEO!
google = whores for obamunists!
jpeditor 3 months ago
Your ribbons are on the wrong side. Failed
Flemdog1985 3 months ago
@Flemdog1985 his ribbons are in the proper place, he's looking in a mirror.
enigmatic563 3 months ago
From Air,Land,or Sea all I say is SEMPER FI TO ALL!!!
usmcllrp 3 months ago
I say your video's are good. 72-77 Semper Fi
Diver830ft 3 months ago 4
Can't wait to wear those sexy blues. SEMPER FI DO OR DIE!!
Logitech667 4 months ago
Hahaha this made me smile! Very nice sir! Semper FI!
EagleGlobeAndAnchor5 4 months ago
Really a lil kid putting on a old army unifrom?.... W/E
LtgRogerAirgood 4 months ago
@LtgRogerAirgood army? what the fuck Man. That's a Marine Uniform
4everUSNavy 3 months ago
Love it, both boy and man. Everybody needs to just Enjoy the Spirit of the Video!
Funny how military regs stay stuck so hard that people get picky.
3martijns 4 months ago
Very sweet video. You still look quite sharp. And if that is your son, he's adorable!
Thank you for your service~
gmatsalves 4 months ago
Semper Fi, Sgt. Your video made me choke up, a little. I served as an 0311 from '88-'92.
Ooh-stinkin-Rah!
scout3058 5 months ago
I was in the Army guard for 6 years, and the Navy active for 10 years. I have worked with as part of a TEAM people. After watching them take the trip from the ship to the shore, there will always be a place if my heart for the USMC.
natedogbfd 5 months ago
Thought this was cool!!!!!
marine08wife 5 months ago
thank you for your service to our country,your bravery your honor, make me a proud American THANK YOU TO ALL THAT SERVED
philip12369 5 months ago
thank you brother and to hell with any that think otherwise
1379dameon 5 months ago
@1379dameon
I agree. Thank you for your service to our country. I am just a greatful civilian.
0289XYZ 5 months ago
Actually Sergeant you were still in regulation. If I remember correctly zero to four inches is the reg, Never mind the fact that you were still able to fit in your Delta's after SIXTEEN years! Shoot the only thing that fits me still is my stinkin' cover. I'm pretty sure that we might have served together. I was in Somolia in October of 92, did the WestPac tour, Japan and then San DIego. My EAS was in 96. Semper Fi my brother!
dabandmanager 5 months ago 3
@dabandmanager Sounds like you had a fun filled enlistment just like me. I was actually in Mogadishu in '94. I went in with 3/6 to secure the airport for the withdraw of US forces. That was 3 months of what should have been a 6 month Med float. I did cold weather training twice (Norway), deployed to Cuba in '95 to police Haitian refugee camps, deployed to the coast of Haiti in '94 with stops in Great Inagua and Puerto Rico. Check back or subscribe - I'm working on a song commemorating 9/11
jtreed05 5 months ago
@jtreed05
The mighty INCHON
BLT 3/6 OPS Chief
topk0511 3 months ago
@jtreed05 yah right your wrong
sawkat32 1 month ago
@dabandmanager Sounds like you had a fun filled enlistment just like me. I was actually in Mogadishu in '94. I went in with 3/6 to secure the airport for the withdraw of US forces. That was 3 months of what should have been a 6 month Med float. I did cold weather training twice (Norway), deployed to Cuba in '95 to police Haitian refugee camps, deployed to the coast of Haiti in '94 with stops in Great Inagua and Puerto Rico. Check back or subscribe - I'm working on a song commemorating 9/11
jtreed05 5 months ago
@dabandmanager Zero to three inches is the reg, but close enough. Semper Fi, brothers. (1994-Present)
Flash75able 1 month ago
! AM INSPIRE ! SEMPER FI
Zulucology 5 months ago
Semper Fi
CassieMacGuru 6 months ago
Very cool transition from a young boys dream to a man's vision. Thanks for serving.
clcooper452 6 months ago
Adorable! My son has done the same thing with his Dad's uniform, and even his Great Grandpa's, priceless!!! Thanks for making me smile :)
Ciganylelek 6 months ago
Thanks my Brother Veteran.. Looked GREAT to me..
Medford, Thomas F. USArmy
1256Ted 6 months ago
Before everyone gets carried away by the fact that I’m out of regs in this video – What you’re actually seeing is a guy (me) trying on his uniform for shits and giggles, 16 years after being discharged from active duty. So no, my hair and uniform wasn’t within regs but when I walked downstairs and saw my 3 little kid’s faces, I could see that they didn’t really care that I didn’t have a ‘high and tight’. I served in Somalia, Gitmo, Med floats, Norway, etc and I'd do it all again!
jtreed05 6 months ago 17
The music was good, the idea for the video interesting and I liked it over all. Yes, I noticed that his hair was out of regs and if you pause at the right point, you'll notice that he is wearing his green service trousers and putting on the dress blues cover. He is also missing his web belt, from the looks of it. I know you don't put the cover on indoors, but it would be hard to get that whole effect without doing so. Perhaps he should have just taken it off as he was leaving.
Saethydd 6 months ago
From a proud former Squid to all of you brave current and former Jarheads I salute you and send out a hearty HOORAH and SEMPER FI !
bigguns45acp 6 months ago
That kid is gonna be an excellent Marine someday.
allghilliedup21 6 months ago
God bless America.Thanks to the marines indeed.
victorianocui 6 months ago
to our troops a hell of job well done
jeremiahcampbell74 6 months ago
your hair is over regulation and you put your cover on inside and you not under arms:(...and your a ssgt maybe you should be a pvt again
purdy319 6 months ago
@purdy319 learn the rank structure, he's only a sgt
wolffang61393 6 months ago
@purdy319 your an idiot
pagancraft77 2 months ago
shipping out for boot camp in march oorah
Kaptk112 6 months ago
what kind of hair cut was that? but anyway. i thought i was gonna hear some lyrics too.
g3seifert 7 months ago
pretty cool. (devil dog 0311)
badge764 7 months ago
Semper Fi my brother.
TheOldfat1 7 months ago
first to fight for right and freedom...
natedogbfd 7 months ago
@natedogbfd The Marine corps was not the first armed service to fight in defense of the US. The Continental Army was established on June 14, 1775, about 5 months prior to the Continental Marines. The troops who became the Continental Army started fighting the British two months before that.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
@exarmydoc um... was quoting the song. Thanks for the history lesson anyway
natedogbfd 5 months ago
XD ALL THE COMMENTS ARE FROM THE SAME PERSON OVER AND OVER
GamingForLife96 7 months ago
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71259mark 7 months ago
bill3979isanasshole recently said "They only used the marines for the real important stuff, the battles the army couldn't handle."
Army troops were committed to Guadalcanal, Saipan, Guam and Peleliu because the Marines couldn't handle those battles. No Marines were ever committed to the battles in Europe, even after Kasserine, even after the Ardennes. The Army handled the Ardennes all on its own, and it was not a fight against an isolated, outnumbered force.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
the fact that you outnumbered the Germans in the west nearly 5 to 1 and are still complaining is a sign of real weakness. Am I to believe one Wehrmacht soldier equals 4 Americans and 1 Brit or Canadian?
Atleast we never outnumbered the japs more than 3 to 1 and still came out with 1 to 3-4 kill ratio.
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 At the day landings, the German army outnumbered the allies.The first priority after DDay was to expand the beachhead in order to land more troops in Europe. In any event, the odds were not 5 to 1 in favor of the Allies. In any event, in the only battles the Marines won in the Pacific, Roi-Namur, Tarawa, Iwo Jima, the Marines outnumbered the enemy. The islands they assaulted were isolated, cut off, the garrisons thereof unable to replenish their losses.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
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@USMarineRifleman0311
Attention Everyone:
Pay no attention to the loser that posts on here as "exarmydoc".
If you do a google search on this moron, you'll see he posts the exact same crap all over the internet, trolling for responses from marines. Obviously, he tried to get in, and was rejected by the corps, and has been bitter about it ever since.
bill3979isanasshole 7 months ago 3
@USMarineRifleman0311 Your kill ratio was more due to the Japanese determination to fight to the death rather than surrender on Tarawa and on other islands. Considering the planners of Tarawa expected to pay a small price for taking Tarawa, the more than 3000 killed and wounded is indicative of a fiasco, not a triumph. Kwajalein was larger than Tarawa, fortified, just as heavily garrisoned. 7th ID took it in 3 days at a cost of less than 1000 killed and wounded.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
@exarmydoc you do know what army stands for dont you in case you dont ill spell it out for you (A)in't (R)eady for (M)arines (Y)et
jeffmcneff 3 months ago
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@USMarineRifleman0311 Your kill ratio was more due to the Japanese determination to fight to the death rather than surrender on Tarawa and on other islands. Considering the planners of Tarawa expected to pay a small price for taking Tarawa, the more than 3000 killed and wounded is indicative of a fiasco, not a triumph. Kwajalein was larger than Tarawa, fortified, just as heavily garrisoned. 7th ID took it in 3 days at a cost of less than 1000 killed and wounded.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
all Im hearing is excuses upon excuses from a force that had to all the loosing and didnt enjoy the better reputation at the end of the war.
Suck it up
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Army won Battles in Africa, Sicily, Italy, France, and Germany, defeating larger forces than the Marines. The Army also won battles in the Pacific without the help of the Marines. In the Pacific, the Marines won only three battles on their own, Tarawa, Iwo Jima, and Roi-Namur, which I forgot to mention earlier. Guadalcanal, Saipan, Guam, Peleliu all were won when Army troops were committed.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
amazing what you can do with 8.3 million people huh
especially when Hitler is focusing on Russia and ignoring you
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Why did Hitler cancel the attack at Kursk and transfer units like 1st SS and 2nd SS Panzer Divisions to Europe after the allies landed in Italy?
Hitler transferred a number of mobile divisions to France anticipating the invasion of France. France was closer to Germany's centers of war industry than the Russian Front.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
The 1st LSSAH and 2nd Das Reich remained in force on the western front until after the Ardennes offensive, they were sent to rest in Italy in 1943. Because American armor is easier to fend off, they treated the western allies with contempt. Op Zitadelle was not cancelled and that was back in 1943. LSSAH wouldnt arrive to Normandy till April 1944 time. They went back to participate in the Spring offensive in 45
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Read Paul Carel's "Scorched Earth", a German account of the War with Russia. Hitler cancelled Operation Citadel when the allies landed in Europe and sent Armored reinforcements to Italy. If the Allies armor was so easy to defeat, why did the Germans lose the Battle of Arrancourt. Why were they unable to cut off Patton's advance into France at the Battle of Mortain?
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Army, not the Marine Corps, won this nation's wars. A few Marines participate in an operation, Like Chapultepec or the Defense of the Philippines, they do little fighting. Marines then expect that they, not the Soldiers who did the fighting, should get credit for the victory. Not very honorable.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
@exarmydoc there is no doubt in my mind that you know your history but you are purposely distorting history to steal credit away from the Marine Corps contributions in wars and to give it all to the Army. I give credit where credit is due. You on the other hand refuse to. As a Marine myself, one of my favorite Marines of all time is Chesty Puller but i in no way try to take away credit from from Army personel like General Patten and the contributions of his men.
budlightxcowboy 4 months ago
since we're still on the topic of friendly fire:
During Operation Cottage after Allied forces occupied Kiska Island, US and Canadian forces mistook each other as Japanese and engaged each other in a deadly firefight. As a result 28 Americans and 4 Canadians were killed with 50 more wounded. There were no Japanese troops on the island two weeks before US and Canadian Forces landed. This is why I dont trust the us army
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 On Peleliu, William Rupertus tried to keep the Army out of the battle and as a result thousands of Marines were killed or wounded.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
a result? that wouldve happened regardless. Someone else had to do it. Were we supposed to come back and flip a fucking coin?
If youve been in the infantry a grunt, youd know that mission assignement is everything and to be assigned the best mission, best sector means everything. What happened when we left Bellau Wood for some RR happened to my own unit after leaving Iraq. Its no wonder why iraq is on the verge of going to shit again.
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Marines have never been assigned the toughest assignments. The toughest assignments in WWII were East of the Atlantic. Insignificant numbers of Marines served in those theaters. Marine victories like Tarawa, Peleliu and Iwo Jima turned out to be tough assignments because Marine Commanders underestimated the Japanese and planned and executed poorly.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
please dont talk about understimation or I'll start right over from 1775 and its gonna be Camden to Hurtgen Forest and Anzio all over again.
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
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@USMarineRifleman0311 "please dont talk about understimation or I'll start right over from 1775 and its gonna be Camden to Hurtgen Forest and Anzio all over again." Please do. Even if you don't intend it that way you are admitting the US Army, defeats and all, did more to defend the USA in the past 236 years than did the Marine Corps.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Go right ahead. It is all meaningless babble compared to the overall record of the US Army in winning this country's wars.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
the reason, quality of the army is immediately questioned is how it does on its own, without Marine intereference like at the Kasserine Pass. Complancy during the Bulge was another example of a mistake that was never made by Marine grunts.
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 No. Marine Generals got a lot of Marines killed on Tarawa, Saipan, Guam and Peleliu by underestimating the enemy, just like Eisenhower admittedly underestimated the chances of a German counter attack through the Ardennes. In spite of being surprised, the Army won that battle.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
no Marine general ever called in a bomber run on himself and his troops like what happened during Op. Cobra.
8th Air Force dropped its payload on US troops killing 241 grunts. A Lt General was among the dead.
No Marine ever did that, maybe an arty strike but nothing on that scale.
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Marine generals got thousands of marines killed or wounded by underestimating Japanese resistance on Tarawa, Saipan, Peleliu and Iwo Jima. Before Iwo Jima they had the previous campaigns to learn from. They went into Iwo Jima believing that only three days would be needed to take and secure Iwo Jima. It took more than a month.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
thousands killed on Peleliu? one. A mere 1009 died taking Tarawa in 3 days. These are mere pennies compared to what the army paid for 9km by 500yds of beach on june 6th.
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Regarding killed and wounded, the 2nd Marine Division took over 3000 casualties on Tarawa. The 7th Infantry Division took Kwajalein Island in three days losing fewer than 1000 killed and wounded. While 7th ID was taking Kwajalein, 4th Marine Division was taking Roi-Namur. 4th Marine Division took more kia in 1 day thsn 7th ID took in 3 days.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 When the 31st RCT was trying to break out from the East side of Chosin, Marine aircraft dropped napalm on them. In Viet Nam, a Marine Corps F4 dropped a 500 pound bomb on the 2nd Battalion (Airborne) 503d Infantry, 173d Airborne Brigade while they were in heavy contact with a numerically superior NVA force on 19 November 1967.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 On its own, the Army did more battles in North Africa than it lost, did win the campaign for France, did win its campaign in italy, all larger operations than what the Marines carried out in the Pacific. Guadalcanal, Saipan, Guam, Peleliu were won because Army troops were committed. The Marines actually won only 2 battles on their own, Tarawa and Iwo Jima, both at the expense of heavy casualties.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc By 1945, when the war ended, the US Army had 8,300,000 men and women out of 12,350,000 Americans in uniform.
In 1945, the USMC had .5 million men. Why couldnt the Marines be everywhere? Why couldnt the Mawinnez help us at Coreggidor or kassewine pass???
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 The marines only had .5 million men, because, quite obviously, that's all they needed to get the job done.
bill3979isanasshole 7 months ago
@bill3979isanasshole That job was not the mission of fighting the more dangerous enemy. The Marines did not have enough personnel to do the job in the Pacific. More Soldiers than Marines fought in the Pacific.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc You're right. They only used the marines for the real important stuff, the battles the army couldn't handle.
bill3979isanasshole 7 months ago
@bill3979isanasshole When the First Marine Division needed reinforcing on Guadalcanal, most of the reinforcements were soldiers. Soldiers cleared Guadalcanal of Japanese troops a month after the First Marine Division was withdrawn. That does not say the First Marine Division handled Guadalcanal on its own.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@bill3979isanasshole So why did they not use the Marines in the largest amphibious assault in History? It wasn't because Eisenhower did not like the Marines. It was because Ernest King wanted to use the Marines to fight the Japanese rather than release them to fight the more dangerous enemy, Germany.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
@exarmydoc
Germans would surrender in thousands and somehow theyre worse than the japs? How deluded are you?
It took months for the army to actually break out of the normandy bocage country.
Marines got the Pacific because we didnt have the armor for a full on land war in Europe. It would mean switching theaters of operation that would complicate logistical operations more than was needed at that time in history.
USMarineRifleman0311 5 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Germans surrendered by the thousands in North Africa because they were cut off and unable to resist. The same applies to the Germans who surrendered in the Argentan-Falaise pocket. The same applies to the Germans who surrendered in the Ruhr Pocket. They were thoroughly beaten on the Battlefield. That is something the Marines have never done in their history, captured an enemy army numbering in the thousands.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 "Marines got the Pacific because we didnt have the armor for a full on land war in Europe. It would mean switching theaters of operation that would complicate logistical operations more than was needed at that time in history." Why do the Marines claim the Marines were excluded from the ETO because the Army didn't want to be upstaged by them. The real reason the best amphibious troops in the world did not fight on Dday was that Admiral King wouldn't release them.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
@exarmydoc Dude your rediculous with your arguments. You are so one sided in everything you quote. you give the Army credit for everything good they've ever done and you give some piss poor excuse for everything good that the Marine Corps has ever done. its obvious that you are jealous of the Marine Corps. There has been multiple Army Officers, a president, and countless enemies who have Quoted or wrote about the speed, tenacity, and the ferociousness of the Marine Corps.
budlightxcowboy 4 months ago
@bill3979isanasshole The Marines needed Army Divisions to win on Saipan, Guam and Peleliu. They needed Army Divisions to win on Guadalcanal. Actually, all the Marines had left Guadalcanal by the time the Army started the offensive which cleared Guadalcanal. What battle did the Marines handle because the Army couldn't.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Marines in WWII had a top strength of 600,000 men. Nevertheless they felt they deserved greater credit for winning the war than did the US Army, which fought in every major theater in the War. If the Marines ever went up against the Wehrmacht, they would have been slaughtered. The Marine Doctrine was that the direct frontal assault was the tactic for every situation. The Wehrmacht was very good at retreating, drawing the attacker in and then beating him soundly.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
try 485,000, minus 100,000 for ground attack troops. The Wehrmacht hahah ok
The fucking jap has been fighting in jungle since the 30s. He was a veteran in his own field, we had experience from the Banana wars and tried to match his jungle experience. We took about 110 japs prisoners on Iwo, remind me how many wehrmacht kids surrendered on the westfront? or committed suicide bayonet charges...or came running at soldiers with live grenades?
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Iwo Jima was not jungle. In any event, had those Japanese withdrew instead of killing themselves in meaningless suicide charges, they would have lived to fight another day. Incidentally, so many Marines died on Peleliu and Iwo Jima because Marine Corps generals mistakenly believed they would conduct suicide charges on the Marines. They did not and Marines died, thanks to the Marine Generals.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Again, your kill ratio over the Japanese was more due to the Japanese determination to die rather than any special prowess on the part of the Marines.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
@exarmydoc
"best amphibious troops"
who the fuck cares or ever cared to brag about something that of that sort.
The main detail (that can relate to the army) that we brag about is physical fitness and marksmanship.
USMarineRifleman0311 5 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Marines claim that HM Smith warned the 27th ID of the gyokusai that happened on 7 July 1944. HM Smith never prepared to meet the said attack. While the attack was happening he played down the intensity of the attack. Prior to the attack, he reinforced not the 27th ID but the 4th Marine Division. HM Smith was as clueless as to Japanese intentions on Saipan as General Eisenhower was about German intentions in the Ardennes.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
so in short what you're saying is Smith was on his guard and non complacent, and Eisenhower decided to shrug off the potential danger to his own armies just for the sake of christmas?
Marines are reckless and overconfident but not complacent.
By 1944, no allied army lost 23,000 members as prisoners of war. You can thank Ike. Have him also explain Malmedy.
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 I am saying HM Smith was more of a Lloyd Fredendall than an Irwin Rommel or a George Patton. He, a lot of other Marines, and a lot of Marine admirers have libelled and slandered the 27th ID just to protect the Corps from having to admit his shortcomings(although the Corps did not allow him to command troops again after Saipan. Harry Schmidt actually commanded V Amphibious Corps on Iwo Jima).
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 You again admit the Army fought the larger and more significant battles in this country's history. While the Marines fought many tough battles in the Pacific, after Guadalcanal they never fought a battle they had a chance to lose. Tarawa, Saipan, Guam, Peleliu, Iwo Jima were all battles against outnumbered, isolated Japanese garrisons.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Marine Corps leaders got thousands of Marines killed on first Tarawa, then Peleliu, then Iwo Jima because they believed the Marines were invincible. They kept repeating a gross mistake. The Army never repeated the mistake of Kasserine. They won the Bulge(could any Marine unit have done something like 3rd Army did to relieve Bastogne?). The Marines needed the Army to win on Saipan, Guam and Peleliu.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
@exarmydoc
There was 1,009 KIA Marines on Tarawa and nearly 5,000 KIA japs.
Lets compare:
43,000 us army infantry landed on omaha to take it from a wehrmacht force of 7,000 and suffered 3x of what the Germans took. Hurtgen forest 3:1 US to German casaulty ratio. The battle was a German defensive victory for 5 months.
We dont need the army to do shit, the work on Peleliu was already over before the army got there.
USMarineRifleman0311 5 months ago
no US Marine unit ever lost a battle to the indians, as reckless as we are, we take our heavy weapons with ourselves.
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Except for the Seminoles, the Marines never fought any indians. If the Marines never lost to the Seminoles, it was because they were too busy fighting the soldiers.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 One reason 31st RCT lost so heavily at Chosin was that OP Smith kept their tank company at Hagaru-Ri. He also kept the 31st RCT's medics at Hagaru Ri to treat his wounded.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
I never mentioned Chosin or RCT 31, and since we're speaking in this international language, let agree to refrain from slandering our own countrymen's dying huh? Because trust me, I know both the Army's and USMC's weak points in history that they dont want to talk about
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 General O.P. Smith accused the 31st RCT of throwing down their arms and running. They actually fought to the death taking out two Chinese divisions which 1st Marine Division otherwise would have had to fight. General OP Smith certainly did not refrain from slandering the soldiers of the 31st RCT.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 That comment is as meaningful as the article, "How Marine POWs Hung Tough"
By Gregory J. W. Urwin. This fellow said that it was a testament to the toughness of the Marines that not one Marine died on the Bataan Death March. Mr. Urwin neglected to mention that only 43 of the 11,700 US military Personnel on the Death March were Marines.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
do Marines care about having big numbers in death marches as POWs?
no we have to attack guadalcanal with those numbers
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Guadalcanal was undefended when the 1st Marine Division landed. Vandegrift had more than 10,000 Marines on Guadalcanal before the 164th nd 182nd Infantry regiments landed, The Ichiki detachment, the first Japanese troops the Marines fought numbered slightly less than 1000 men. The second battle they fought was against the Kawaguchi detachment which numbered fewer than 4000 men.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Why did How Gregory J. W. Urwin make a big deal of this, that not one of the 650 US deaths on the Bataan Death March were Marines? Mr. Urwin failed to mention that almost no Marines participated in the Death March. He seemed to think Marines deserved some recognition for surviving the Death March. How Marine POWs Hung Tough published in the magazine World WarII on May 08, 2008.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Marines were incapable of fighting the Indians. That is why the Marines never lost a battle to the Indians. At the time of the Indian Wars, after the Revolution, the War of 1812, the Mexican War and the Civil War, the Marines still did not have a lot of experience in ground warfare.
This refers to the fighting against the plains indians, not the seminoles in Florida.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311: Look up "Esek Hopkins, commander-in-chief of the continental navy during the American Revolution" By Edward Field. The Marines faced very little resistance when they captured Nassau. They took away cannon and shot. Most of the gunpowder had been sent off New Providence Island before the Marines landed. The Continental Army already had heavy artillery, which had been captured at Fort Ticonderoga.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311: This is from Wikipedia, which I know many do not like."Fort Montagu is a small fort of four cannon on the eastern shore of New Providence Island (Nassau) Bahamas." "Captain Samuel Nicholas landed with his 234 Marines two miles east of Fort Montagu. The Bahamian militia retreated to Fort Nassau, so Fort Montagu fell unopposed."
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 You need to study history. What won the American Revolution was the ground war. The Continental Army, from which the US Army came, fought and won the ground war, in spite of multiple defeats, with no help from the Continental Marines. That does not support the allegation, that the Marines have been in the forefront of all of America's wars.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
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Attention Everyone:
Pay no attention to the loser that posts on here as "exarmydoc".
If you do a google search on this moron, you'll see he posts the exact same crap all over the internet, trolling for responses from marines. Obviously, he tried to get in, and was rejected by the corps, and has been bitter about it ever since.
71259mark 7 months ago 5
Very cool
dameke1 7 months ago
Attention Everyone:
Pay no attention to the loser that posts on here as "exarmydoc".
If you do a google search on this moron, you'll see he posts the exact same crap all over the internet, trolling for responses from marines. Obviously, he tried to get in, and was rejected by the corps, and has been bitter about it ever since.
71259mark 8 months ago 17
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As a retired Army Officer, I object to the Marine Corps 1)disrespecting the Army which has a longer and more extensive history of the Marine Corps 2) trying to claim credit for Army accomplishments, fighting in the Battle of Trenton, playing a significant role in the Battle of New Orleans 3)blaming Marine fiascos on the Army, HM Smith's inept performance as a ground commander on Saipan, the ineptitude of the Marine general who conducted the Peleliu operation.
exarmydoc 8 months ago
@exarmydoc With all due respect sir, you need to start a blog. Your observations are misplaced here. At the end of the video I said "Dedicated to ALL those who have served". Not just Marines. I respect all branches but it just so happens that I am a Marine. You need to get over yourself and your wasted animosity. Go be happy and enjoy the freedom that we ALL fought for.
jtreed05 8 months ago 6
@jtreed05 Why do the Marines disrespect the Army?
exarmydoc 8 months ago
@jtreed05 I have posted on blogs, much to the chagrin of people who can' confront truth.
exarmydoc 8 months ago
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@exarmydoc It would appear, YOU can't handle the truth!
71259mark 8 months ago
@71259mark I can handle the truth about the US Army better than you can,namely, that the US Army has compiled a much more extensive record of service to the Defense of the US, that this record resulted mostly from how the Army fought.
exarmydoc 8 months ago
@jtreed05 Well said, sir !!
71259mark 7 months ago
@exarmydoc as a Marine, I object to the ineptitude of the Army. I object to us having to have gone saved the Army's ass twice in Fallujah. I claim the fact that the USMC has never lost a battle. I want you to look at the Korean War, and the Chosen Reservoir. And if you want to be respected more by Marines, how about have your branch have a tough boot camp. And not be complete slobs.
cpem2007 7 months ago
@cpem2007 3/10th If you really expect the Marine Corps, tell your beloved Corps to stop fabricating its history, stop claiming credit for Army accomplishments, and acknowledge that Soldiers did a lot of fighting and dying in the cause of the Marines' outstanding combat record.
The 3st RCT saved the Marines' butts at Chosin.
Guadalcanal, Saipan, Guam, Peleliu were victories because of the Army troops who were committed.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@cpem2007 How about the Marines acknowledging that the 31st RCT did more to save the Marines than theMarines ever did to save the 31st RCT.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc you are an idiot, you have such a revisionists mentality. Just because the Marines is too good for you, doesn't mean you can reinvent reality. Sorry but you are a dumb-ass
cpem2007 7 months ago
@cpem2007 "Up to that tine, a lot of people just thought the Army folks collapsed, they were overrun and didn't hold themselves up well," said retired Marine Col. Robert Parrott, a Fairfax County resident who served at Chosin..."Maybe I'm talking to you now because of what the Army did," said Parrott, who was wounded in the fighting."
Is Major Parrott a "revisionist" and an"idiot"?
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@cpem2007 "With the passage of time and access to former enemy military historical files, to which reference is made in the following paragraph, historians now reveal that the 31st RCT (minus a tactical battalion) took on two full Chinese Divisions (the 80th and 81st CCf Divisions), plus possibly a regiment from a third (94th CCF) division.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@cpem2007 "If this avalanche of Chinese manpower had bypassed the 31st RCT to initally attack East Hill at Hagaru-Ri, instead of spending nearly five days laying seige to this strategically inconsequential Army Force, then Hagaru might have tragically fallen, and the bulk of the First Marine Division at Yudam-ni would not have had this vital logistic/staging base to which to withdraw.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc Robert E. Parrott, who retired as a full colonel, was a decorated veteran of the Chosin Reservoir campaign who credited the 31st RCT with playing a vital role at Chosin.
31st RCT fought two Chinese divisions, one of which had been reinforced by a regiment of a third division. If the 31st RCT had not fought at Chosin, there would have been two, possibly three, Chinese infantry divisions advancing unopposed down the East side of the Chosin Reservoir headed for Hagaru Ri.That is fact.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@cpem2007 What am I revising about History. The Marine Corps was never a significant part of the US Armed Forces until WWII. In WWII, they did not make the main American effort against the more dangerous foe. Marines and Marine admirers have embellished the History of the Marine Corps(e.g. the legend of the blood stripe). Marines and Marine admirers have claimed credit for what the Army did. Marines and Marine admirers have blmed Marine CFs on the Army(Saipan, Peleliu).
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
The Marines numbered at less than 2,000 during the revolution, and yet they wrote more history and legends, took part in more raids than any 2,000 militia or cont. army members. You cant find a regiment that has more history than the US Marines 1775-1783.
We fought our counterparts, the RMs and won in every face to face engagement, except the obvious case when the navy ordered the abandonment and burning of their ships at Champlain.
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Marines in the Revolution did nothing legendary. Maybe that is why in 1921 the Marine Corps Gazette published an article claiming, falsely, that the Continental Marines were the key to the victories at Trenton and Princeton. Read either "The Winter Soldiers" or "Washington's Crossing" to learn why those battles were the most crucial in the nation's history. What did the Marines contribute either Saratoga or Yorktown.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
All history books regarding Continental Marines and the Trenton battle admit that Calawader's battalion crossed down river from Trenton and took positions along the Assunpink creek, its only you who is butthurt over bragging rights to capturing a bunch of Hessians. Expecting 18th century Marines to fight enmasse on land is like expecting the modern day coast guard to take Fallujah. They had specialist mission during their time and they served them well in enemy's own waters
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
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@USMarineRifleman0311 I say again, in 1921, The Marine Corps Gazette, published a story which said that 600 continental Marines reinforced General Washington's Army before Trenton, that all 600 Marines fought at Trenton and Princeton, that these 600 Marines were the key to Washington's victories at Trenton and Princeton. The History Channe Documentary, Battle History of the US Marines, was authored by a Marine Corps officer. It was claimed that a Battalion of Marines fought at Trenton.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 John Glover's Continental regiment from Gloucester Ma, Edward Hand's Pennsylvania Rifle Regiment, Daniel Morgan's Riflemen all did more to win the Revolution than the Continental Marines. Read about the raid on Whitehaven. Marine Lieutenant Wallingford led one of the raiding parties. Wallingford and his men were more interested in a local pub than they were in burning ships.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Whatever raids those accomplished, they had no effect on the outcome of the Revolution. What won the Revolution were the Battles, both victories and defeats, fought by the Soldiers of the Continental Army. If not for the victories won by the Continental Army, the United States Marine Corps would never have come into existence. There would have been no United States in 1798, which is when the United States Marines were organized.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
Whitehaven had no outcome? have you no clue how many british civilians moved away from their own coastlines? A handful of British ships were tied up guarding their own waters after HMS Drake, Treppassey and Atalanta were taken. All in seperate raids. The diplomatic effects this had on the French were immense. They financed alot more raids and ships to be outfitted for the Cont Navy and sailed out of French harbors
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 USS Alliance, commanded by John Barry, captured Atlanta and Trespassey, not John Paul Jones in the Ranger. France had already committed to an alliance with the Americans, because of the Battles of Saratoga, Brandywine and Germantown. Before that, via the company of Roderigue Hortalez and Co, set up by Pierre Beaumarchais, the French were supporting the American Revolution as far back as 1776.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
wow....no shit, you read something about commodore barry, good on you.
maybe we'll land your troops at the right beach next time
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 What have you read about John Barry. You credit John Paul Jones with capturing ships which John Barry captured.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 The first ship ever fitted out in Europe for the Continental Navy was Bon Homme Richard, which was not a very powerful ship. Then came Indien, which was chartered to the South Carolina Navy and sailed as South Carolina but which did not have a successful career.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
The Richarde was an East Indiaman yes, slow and outgunned by the Serapis, but the captain and his French Marines obviously knew how to turn the tide and adopt someone elses ship when the first opportunity came up. It was a helluva trade off. Especially since the Serapis had more guns and was literally brand new before Flameborough.
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 John Paul Jones and his French Marines failed to capture the convoy the Serapis was escorting. You never mention that.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Whatever John Paul Jones did in British Waters, it did not affect British plans to shift their main effort in North America to the South. That effort ultimately failed because of the battles fought by the Continental Army, the victories and the defeats.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@exarmydoc
The effects of the raids reverberated throughout the British countryside and more importantly its coastlines were 100% on guard till the end of the war. Which meant more troops tied up guarding England and 50,000 less killing the brave cont. soldiers. More British ships patrolling the coasts, meant less Brit ships raiding US and allied shipping lines supporting the fight on the continent. Less Brit ships landing troops to reinforce Cornwallis
USMarineRifleman0311 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 After sending so many troops to North America, Great Britain did not have 50,000 troops left to guard its home territory. Great Britain did not recall any of its troops from North America.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 Ranger was a sloop of war, 18 6 pounder cannon, less than 150 men. The British did not do a major redeployment to deal with Ranger. By the time Ranger entered British waters, the alliance between the US and France was official. Atlanta and Trespassey were taken by Alliance in 1783, after Yorktown fell. Before John Paul Jones arrived in French waters, a squadron under Lambert Wickes had already raided British commerce and had done more damage than John Paul Jones.
exarmydoc 5 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 The Continental Marines did nothing legendary in the Revolutionary War.
exarmydoc 7 months ago
@USMarineRifleman0311 The 2000 Marines, between 1775 and 1783, took total casualties of 499 killed and 70 wounded. Their major accomplishments were twice capturing the undefended town of Nassau. The munitions captured at the first raid went to fitting out the Continental Navy. The casualties show the Continental Marines did not do a whole lot of fighting in the Revolution.
exarmydoc 5 months ago