think about it ppl! he plays 8 min songs for hours on end! you need great stamina for that! and yet he still thows his hand all over the place, you need a lot of practice and skill to have that much stamina, there isnt many drummers like Dave, he is up there with the greats!
@youngmarines5 Uhm are you retarded ? Just because you use triggers doesnt mean you dont need to play the same beat. All triggers do is give you a even sound when using 2 bass drums.
he's an awesome drummer but i can;t help feeling like he cheats by hitting trigger pads rather than the actual bass drums which are there basically for show :(
@rick66651 The last song (correctly labeled as Valley of the Damned), is definitely from Valley of the Damned, which is correctly labeled (as Valley of the Damned).
what is so special about him. i see nothing legendary worthy. the whole first song, the beats are the same. he doesnt do anything exciting, nothing out of the ordinary. i see no special skill uesd here. pretty much your standard thrash metal drummer. if you listen and watch the way he plays, its verrryyy similar to that of a thrash metal drummer
this band speeds up there music in the studio, this guy doesn't even hit the bass drum with his pedals, it is all electranic, and they suck live...they are good on the album, but after reading that article in revolver about them speeding up the msuic in the studio i give these guys a thumbs down!
@SteveAnderson912 when i saw them at mayhem there whole set, sounded like one long ass song, thre solos were crap, and that is because 1. THEY DO SPEED UP THE MUSIC IN THE STUDI! that is a proven fact. 2. the guitarist NOT HERMAN is always drunk, 3. the are from britain what do you expect!
@Shadowdark1988 I wouldn't go that far, but he's a good drummer. Don't get me wrong, die-hard Dragonforce fan here. Just saying there are drummers out there that have more complexity.
Dave is one of metals finest drummers. I'm not Dragonforce's biggest fan, but the sort of shit Dave pulls off is amazing. I've seen him first hand, and his double bass work is up there with Lombardo. Fucking amazing!!
hes good, no denying that. I think his fills are INCREDIBLY repetitive (judging from Inhuman Rampage) yet he plays really tight double bass which is tought at the tempos he plays at. Check out George Kollias man, he will blow your mind!
Yep, but he has to play to the music his band plays. The fills work with the music. Unfortunately, thats my one problem with Dragonforce (i.e a lot of their songs are very similar), but as far as putting a drum track down for the songs, I dont know what other fills would work at that pace?? I know that Dave is a huge Neil Peart fan, and were he to be playing Hemispheres, he would apply suitable fills.
he dosent use triggers bcz i went to a dragonforce concert as VIP and i met him and asked him a few questions and the first 1 was tod you use triggers and and he said no,i only use them in the sound check to get warmed up
He's right, he doesn't use triggers, because his 2 bass pedals aren't even hooked up to the bass drums. They are ornament kick pedals facing down hitting electronic pads.
A trigger is something you hook onto the drum and then there's a thing that touches your beater head.
@Pitchredbrigade *shrug* you could say the same thing about alot of groups, and it's not true with them or here :p, mostly because alot of the fills he plays are written, or at least consistantly played night after night after night. They are like any of his cymbal accents, each track has it's own ups and downs.
If somebody can play a song perfectly, you have absolutely no idea how good they is.
And by "better" you mean what?
Music isn't about speed, everybody would have been so tired of music then that nobody listened to it anymore then. He probably doesn't even play at his max speed here.
I'll acknowledge you being as good as him(keyword: as good) if you play an cover of an entire dragonforce cd from sonic firestorm and later(he wasn't in valley of the damned) without stopping an upload it here.
i think this dude really is awsome. Everyone seems to give all the credit to the guitarists and the singer but it truley takes talent to keep up with them my hats off to dave he's absolutley insane!
Joey Jordison? yes they both are fast, but its harder for dave to put other fills because the tempo is faster. its harder to do (for example) 16th note fills when your tempo goes1-2-3-4 than 1...2...3...4... either way their both good.
As for portnoy he can put many stuff in because whats commonly changing in dream theater is time signature and the tempo doesn't go as fast as dragon force.
my preference is with shoes on pedal feels lighter and i seem to move faster only down side is i cant actually feel the pedal at time like it feels like my foot is the pedal and i kinda forget about it lol
ya, peope that have never seen DF live is so fucking ignorant. i agree that DF is bether in theyr music videos but thats only beacuse the sound is bether (o_O)
Personal preference - some people like to play with shoes on but others prefer barefoot. I can actually play double kick faster without shoes but for some people its the other way round.
eases tension on the foot, usually someone would play with shoes or socks on, one recognizable drummer who plays barefoot is Rick Allen of Def Leppard
@tehlockoftime Avenged Sevenfold got all whiny and emo and mainstream... They're fucking lame now. No more A7X for life..
gh0stcrash3r 2 months ago
My young cousin doing what he does best (proud of the fact)
ub612 4 months ago
hes an epic drummer but shame hes in a shit band =/ he can do better than dragonforce
BunnyFuzz666 10 months ago
@BunnyFuzz666 he should be in a band like a7x but no one can replace the rev and they have a new drummer.
tehlockoftime 7 months ago
@tehlockoftime lol, a7x is a piece of shit band, and any little cunt can replace the rev.
ShittyMcPoopyBalls 5 months ago
@ShittyMcPoopyBalls I guess thats your cue then...
JoyceyX 3 months ago
think about it ppl! he plays 8 min songs for hours on end! you need great stamina for that! and yet he still thows his hand all over the place, you need a lot of practice and skill to have that much stamina, there isnt many drummers like Dave, he is up there with the greats!
fordfan197 10 months ago
This is the song "My spirit will go on" XD
TheOnlyKristar 11 months ago 2
Oh my god, it's orrible.
HeavyMetaller94 11 months ago
The Album Is Sonic Firestorm
lynchyboyproductionz 1 year ago
the proscriptor does way better at vocals and rapes the drums
doublebassrox 1 year ago
you would think he would have a better looking kit
steve0995 1 year ago
@steve0995 That isnt his European (main) kit .. his main kit is a Tama Starclassic in Ultraviolet Sparkle which is a beautiful drum set.
lfcbenitez123 1 year ago
eletronic bass drumss?
squidcp1 1 year ago
how do u sing and drum like that at the same time?!?!?!?
tigerfoe32 1 year ago
this guy blows... all he uses is trgger pads and he doesnt even do the actual double bass... its so gayyy.FAKE DRUMMER
youngmarines5 1 year ago
@youngmarines5 Uhm are you retarded ? Just because you use triggers doesnt mean you dont need to play the same beat. All triggers do is give you a even sound when using 2 bass drums.
lfcbenitez123 1 year ago
dave its woowwwwwwwww
daahgl 1 year ago
he's an awesome drummer but i can;t help feeling like he cheats by hitting trigger pads rather than the actual bass drums which are there basically for show :(
HeartlessNobody1314 1 year ago
is he using heel toe??
yakche 1 year ago
@yakche yes he is hehehe
jamesmetaldrummer 1 year ago
This guy is part human part machine..
daav1977 1 year ago
guess macintosh isn't so bad after all..
NinjaSeppo 1 year ago
paiste
JsmDrumChannel 1 year ago
hoooly shiiit *_*
m4dclaw 1 year ago
it isn't valley of damned =S
inverte1 1 year ago
@inverte1 What isn't Valley of the damned?
udleveret 1 year ago 11
@inverte1 it's my spirit will go on -.-
XYNiicoYX 1 year ago
i want to hear the live performance not a sound track with live drums >_>
michaelloudin 1 year ago
@michaelloudin Then check out the version without back background music!
udleveret 1 year ago
wow sick!!
the best drummer 4ever!
xKIRAx709 1 year ago
Dave is my Drumming Idol.
Davemackintoshforce 1 year ago
he is not playing double basepedal where it should be
ducati110 1 year ago
of things stupid that you will not understand =I
rick66651 1 year ago
i like more of Joey Jordison, but this guys rocks too!
victoramantee 1 year ago
yiu are an idiot these song is of the album sonic fire storm not valey of damaged fuking idiot
rick66651 1 year ago
What the fuck are you talking about?
udleveret 1 year ago 6
@udleveret lol what a nonsense!
FanTazTiCxD 1 year ago
@rick66651 my nigger you dont get to tag the song thats amazons fault
xXMyLastSerenadeXx 1 year ago
@rick66651 udleveret is right
Eskimop16 1 year ago
@rick66651 The last song (correctly labeled as Valley of the Damned), is definitely from Valley of the Damned, which is correctly labeled (as Valley of the Damned).
Tommyc1923 1 year ago
@rick66651 You* this* valley* of the* damned* fucking*
TheMysteriousSage 10 months ago
If dave and travis barker got together peoepls heads would fall off from the drumming awesomeness :D
ggffgg2 1 year ago
@ggffgg2 Tbh, Travis barker is really overrated, I'm not saying his bad but like, It's average drumming at the best,
revell55 1 year ago
This guy just has a fast-forward button for his hands when he drums....
RSDonut 1 year ago
have you guys ever heard of gene hoglan?
PANTERA8703 1 year ago
dude this guy is second best nxt to dream theaters mike portnoy.
kellyhubbs18 1 year ago
One of the fastest metal drummers.. check Mike Portnoy or Aquilles Priester for BEST metal drummer.
the4whoresemen 1 year ago
@the4whoresemen that's not metal
minkomadness 1 year ago
@minkomadness it's power metal , dude !
GuitarHeroStrummer 1 year ago
its sounds simple BUT simple sounds great, if you can make the simple stuff sound great, it all comes together!!!
Heartu8 1 year ago
what is so special about him. i see nothing legendary worthy. the whole first song, the beats are the same. he doesnt do anything exciting, nothing out of the ordinary. i see no special skill uesd here. pretty much your standard thrash metal drummer. if you listen and watch the way he plays, its verrryyy similar to that of a thrash metal drummer
sacrament95 1 year ago
No he doesnt hit it with pedals, nooo. Just look at his legs, douchebag. Best drummer ever.
kiliaden666 1 year ago
fuck trigger kick drums.
thetenderloin 1 year ago
this band speeds up there music in the studio, this guy doesn't even hit the bass drum with his pedals, it is all electranic, and they suck live...they are good on the album, but after reading that article in revolver about them speeding up the msuic in the studio i give these guys a thumbs down!
flaze15 1 year ago
@flaze15 thats not true. when i saw em they were perfect. well, slight errors, but you know, if you want exact, listen to c*rap.
SteveAnderson912 1 year ago
@SteveAnderson912 when i saw them at mayhem there whole set, sounded like one long ass song, thre solos were crap, and that is because 1. THEY DO SPEED UP THE MUSIC IN THE STUDI! that is a proven fact. 2. the guitarist NOT HERMAN is always drunk, 3. the are from britain what do you expect!
flaze15 1 year ago
@flaze15 where's your proof? from a magazine article? i saw em at mayhem too and they were excellent. the best i ever saw
SteveAnderson912 1 year ago
@flaze15 Oh yeah? Proven how?
Viduata 1 year ago
yeah, this is my favorite drummer
zptotman 1 year ago
What is the second song ?
theshadowsoldier62 1 year ago
The first is "My Spirit Will Go On" and the second is "Valley Of The Damned"..
udleveret 1 year ago
his bass pedals hit electric kit pads
metalliman27 1 year ago
his pedal's don't hit his bass drums :S they just seem to hit practice pads that are triggered.
krisq14 1 year ago
4:33 wow muscles XD btw he uses heel-toe method rite? hes my FAVORITE drummer of all he is a beast XD
DragonWarriorX99 1 year ago
hes a frikin blur. i claim hacks =3
mantaray9992000 1 year ago
beast at 1:08 - 1:27
pianoslayer615 1 year ago
Insane drumming!!!!
dagnasty76 2 years ago
He KEEPS TIME and does backing vocals.
This dude is the shit, imo.
AMisfitsLyric 2 years ago 23
@AMisfitsLyric Not only does he do back up, but harmonizes as well. Hnnng.
regujew 1 year ago
@AMisfitsLyric i can do it too, and don't play triggers like he does :P
TheRealAxelFury 1 year ago
Really really nice guy. Got very drunk with this guy after a drum clinic! :D
psychotickurt 2 years ago
Dave macintosh is the god of the drums
TheMeTaLoCoX 2 years ago 2
check out Mike Mangini and Mike Portnoy
gallix94 2 years ago
@gallix94 k man, i will!!
But still Dave rocks XD
TheMeTaLoCoX 2 years ago
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Dave Mackintosh is the fuckin man [²]
1408dp 2 years ago
Dave Mackintosh is the fuckin man.
Tracezero 2 years ago
ok can anyone tell me whats going on with the pedal thing at the end, it looks as if he isnt even hitting the bass drums
ponchothegreatest 2 years ago
u can clearly see that he's not using the bass drums. he is using the roland KD-7 kick trigger....no wonder he's fast....hehe :)
MarcusjaySWE 2 years ago
looks like Mike Portnoy
coldworldmelancholy 2 years ago 6
Not very stylish when it comes to drumming, but I guess its hard to be when your drumming that fast lol.
Deathblade25 2 years ago
he is the ultimate cheater when it comes to bass drums
TommyOwnzU 2 years ago
wow enough cymbals
are they all really necessary
bu there is lots of skill there...
TRULY AWSOME
Gilgris1 2 years ago
why he have to use 2 KD7s?! shame on him...
InLoveAndPain 2 years ago
Well, he COMPLETELY lacks creativity and originality, but he's fast.
SpaceDyeDream 2 years ago
My idol
SkyColossus 2 years ago
y is he using the electric pad for the bass drums?
i mean what difference does it make?
sorry i dont know much about drums and the techniques but seeing all those comments i was wondering
btw he is a AWESOME drummer.
DragonWarriorX99 2 years ago
sybreed's drummer is a lott better...
omegaevangelion 2 years ago
lol, the double-bassdrums are only show...
Maxiphan 2 years ago
watch his feet you idiot! i've seen the guy live, and close up. Trust Me! he's for real!
sickspastic 2 years ago
yes, he is doing incerdible foor work, but watch 4:25
Maxiphan 2 years ago
Heel-Toe Technique FTW! Loll!
xXQcAresiusQcXx 2 years ago
Hes one of the greatest metal drummers!
Shadowdark1988 2 years ago 18
Indeed!
udleveret 2 years ago 2
hes won of the worst.
1000000jackpot777 2 years ago
@Shadowdark1988 I wouldn't go that far, but he's a good drummer. Don't get me wrong, die-hard Dragonforce fan here. Just saying there are drummers out there that have more complexity.
xxxPinkyGSterxxx 1 year ago
@Shadowdark1988 oh yes guy he is my favourite drummer
mastercrix19 1 year ago
I love Dave Mackintosh hes one of the best metal drummers ever!
jawsunleashed5000 2 years ago 3
damn hes a fucking animal when he plays , i mean just look at him , hes completely into the songs and he sure looks a maniac
XenoPhobic321 2 years ago
Notice he plays electirc bass drum instead, watch how the drum beaters are moving downwards instead of to the drum head "which there isn't a head
TehDeejus 2 years ago
Hey, either you try everything and suck at it or be bad-ass at one thing.
AdvancedK9 2 years ago 2
whats the second song called
a7x1c234 2 years ago
It's My Spirit will go on, just the part after the solos.
TheSapphire92 2 years ago
Dave is one of metals finest drummers. I'm not Dragonforce's biggest fan, but the sort of shit Dave pulls off is amazing. I've seen him first hand, and his double bass work is up there with Lombardo. Fucking amazing!!
nechtology 2 years ago
@nechtology
hes good, no denying that. I think his fills are INCREDIBLY repetitive (judging from Inhuman Rampage) yet he plays really tight double bass which is tought at the tempos he plays at. Check out George Kollias man, he will blow your mind!
21sabiandrummer67 2 years ago
Yep, but he has to play to the music his band plays. The fills work with the music. Unfortunately, thats my one problem with Dragonforce (i.e a lot of their songs are very similar), but as far as putting a drum track down for the songs, I dont know what other fills would work at that pace?? I know that Dave is a huge Neil Peart fan, and were he to be playing Hemispheres, he would apply suitable fills.
nechtology 2 years ago
I'm amazed at how he keeps his twos and fours with his left hand and continues to Zeus Hammer everything else with his right hand.
Fucking ace.
AMisfitsLyric 2 years ago
Ok, so I thought he was a sick drummer, but is he singing along now? That's sick!
Indebanvdhamer 2 years ago
dave is my cousin i used to have to set his kit up for him
im f****ed if i could do it now as his kit was much smaller then
ub612 2 years ago
he dosent use triggers bcz i went to a dragonforce concert as VIP and i met him and asked him a few questions and the first 1 was tod you use triggers and and he said no,i only use them in the sound check to get warmed up
mightymightable 2 years ago
He's right, he doesn't use triggers, because his 2 bass pedals aren't even hooked up to the bass drums. They are ornament kick pedals facing down hitting electronic pads.
A trigger is something you hook onto the drum and then there's a thing that touches your beater head.
He doesn't have that, he has electronic pads.
AirmetalDrummer 2 years ago
every drum track from dragonforce is the same. xD
Bass snare bass bass snare ect.
Pitchredbrigade 2 years ago
@Pitchredbrigade *shrug* you could say the same thing about alot of groups, and it's not true with them or here :p, mostly because alot of the fills he plays are written, or at least consistantly played night after night after night. They are like any of his cymbal accents, each track has it's own ups and downs.
Bananapuddinpie 2 years ago
But its true!! He only knows bass snare bass bass snare. :P
Pitchredbrigade 2 years ago
Have you compared the number of bass beats you hear with the beats you see him beating?
mecaguendeu 2 years ago
He uses triggers for the double bass. He plays the 1/2 of the bass hits
mecaguendeu 2 years ago
No triggers do nothing but a much nore consistant sound, goddamn i swear i loose braincells everytime i hear some shit like this.
snowedemon 2 years ago 2
Jesus christ , triggers dont play beats for you , they just make every beat sound even and of the same quality.
lfcbenitez123 2 years ago 2
man, i hate drummes who use ornament kicks, even more when theyre terrific drummers as dave, whos my fav in power metal
apexpein39 2 years ago
Thats bollocks. He plays heel toe, so he's certainly executing all the kick drum notes.
nechtology 2 years ago
i feel so sorry for those drums haha
KingNegativeCreep 2 years ago
He always use bass drums O.o
Ok, he does the same thing in every song, but it's this tyke of music that asks that..you can't say he is a bad drummer...
firionimpera 2 years ago
You can certainly say he isn't good.
GeneralMillss 2 years ago
does he even use his bass drums?
look at his pedal beaters.
1000000jackpot777 2 years ago
he's using triggers
inhumanrampage2006 2 years ago
wuts that?
KingNegativeCreep 2 years ago
im better then dave mackintosh.
ps. ive been drumming for 10 monts
1000000jackpot777 2 years ago
Lets see..
udleveret 2 years ago
its not that to be better then him.
he does the same thing.
1000000jackpot777 2 years ago
If somebody can play a song perfectly, you have absolutely no idea how good they is.
And by "better" you mean what?
Music isn't about speed, everybody would have been so tired of music then that nobody listened to it anymore then. He probably doesn't even play at his max speed here.
I'll acknowledge you being as good as him(keyword: as good) if you play an cover of an entire dragonforce cd from sonic firestorm and later(he wasn't in valley of the damned) without stopping an upload it here.
Lucidmakexael24695 2 years ago
ive only been drumming for ten months. ill give it my best shot
1000000jackpot777 2 years ago
Maybe your age is 10 months too.
SaTurNPL 2 years ago
video, now noob.
Zollikoffer 2 years ago
@1000000jackpot777 yeh....prove it....post a video of you covering this song better than what he does....
dukitwilightprince 1 year ago
always does the same crap, has no creativity
nachokaphwan 2 years ago
Well, yeah I think he does ! But I don't understand how his pedals are mounted ... weird...
FrenchHeavyMetal 2 years ago
Is he using heel&toe technique at around 3:50?
FrenchHeavyMetal 2 years ago
mike portnoy is better than this asshole
666Salvationisgone 2 years ago
dave is so underrated
19MetalMan93 2 years ago
i think this dude really is awsome. Everyone seems to give all the credit to the guitarists and the singer but it truley takes talent to keep up with them my hats off to dave he's absolutley insane!
skylor2121 2 years ago
what about mike portnoy from dream theatre? he pretty awsome leave comments if you think he awsome
Braveheart2k91990 2 years ago
watch them live on graspop quality is very good
mauriciounited 2 years ago
DAVE kicks Joeys ass
GodJaka 2 years ago
who is better - joey jordinson or dave?
leave comments :D
RFCKB2K9 2 years ago
Dave. Better technique. Faster.
SilenceOmo7 2 years ago
they are better in different way
dillipod7 2 years ago 3
This really isnt a fair comparison, just because the style of music is SOOO different.
Dave plays for a band that requires a constant beat with little variation, or else it would screw herman and sam up.
Joey plays for a a group that varies style from song to song, changing tempo and beats.
However, i feel that Dave is way too set in his beats and doesnt bring anything new to the table from song to song.
Joey however changes almost every song. Maybe Dave is just as fast but not as good.
techfreak713 2 years ago
Joey Jordison? yes they both are fast, but its harder for dave to put other fills because the tempo is faster. its harder to do (for example) 16th note fills when your tempo goes1-2-3-4 than 1...2...3...4... either way their both good.
As for portnoy he can put many stuff in because whats commonly changing in dream theater is time signature and the tempo doesn't go as fast as dragon force.
they're great bands though, the three.
krazYFaic 2 years ago
people talking about playing barefoot or not
my preference is with shoes on pedal feels lighter and i seem to move faster only down side is i cant actually feel the pedal at time like it feels like my foot is the pedal and i kinda forget about it lol
tamakit123 2 years ago
it's many people that think dragonforce's drummer is computer or a beat boxing machin
ycimkny012 2 years ago
Seriously? :O
udleveret 2 years ago
ya, peope that have never seen DF live is so fucking ignorant. i agree that DF is bether in theyr music videos but thats only beacuse the sound is bether (o_O)
ycimkny012 2 years ago
yo how old is dave? he looks like he's in his late 50's
psychosis25 2 years ago
Dave is born September 10th, 1977 so he must be 32 years old.
udleveret 2 years ago
i wonder why he plays bare foot. does anyone know why??
hardcorerocker952 2 years ago
Personal preference - some people like to play with shoes on but others prefer barefoot. I can actually play double kick faster without shoes but for some people its the other way round.
spantney 2 years ago
it feels good?
quackbeef 2 years ago
Yea it's preference, I personally can't stand to play with my shoes on, it just feels restrictive.
SpartanCarver 2 years ago
maximum foot control
Gillty101 2 years ago
eases tension on the foot, usually someone would play with shoes or socks on, one recognizable drummer who plays barefoot is Rick Allen of Def Leppard
MrStoney420 2 years ago
hes not hittin the bass drum.
The beaters go straight to the floor and hit a trigger pad.
Thats cheap.
openkeys 2 years ago
Thats not true. I just saw them live two days ago and i could see the bass skins rippling as he hit them.
Ralroost 2 years ago
I ment in this vid and also the wacken vid
openkeys 2 years ago
its actually true he used the roland trigger pad but on his myspace about 2 months ago he posted a blog saying he doesnt use triggers any longer
jamesdizzle420 2 years ago
its true for then he used the roland trigger pad's but he doesnt use triggers anylonger
jamesdizzle420 2 years ago
no, thats just the sound he prefers......
MrKilltastic 2 years ago
i dnt like this band...no offence..just find that the songs are stupid fast but respect to the drummer...awesomely fast
93394348 2 years ago
you dont like the band because they are fast but you like the drummer because he is fast?... LOL!!!
DRAGONFORCE are freiking awesome!
bigbadmetalead 2 years ago 4
You could steal his First Floor tom and no one would notice :)), but seriously he is a beast
HardHitsOnlyPlease 2 years ago
dave is awesome
i love DF they ROCK!!!!!
DragonWarriorX99 2 years ago 2
... impossible to do
BAVKT 2 years ago
dave is 1 kick ass drummer
ice3542 2 years ago 2
anyone else notice that he is the only one without super long hair? lol
lalalax4321 2 years ago
Anyone notice he's playing with 4 drum sticks?
DdragonforceF 2 years ago
i dont thiink hes playing with 4 it just looks like that
lalalax4321 2 years ago