Christmas Truth Part 1

[SRamdhani1]

Christmas is a phenomenon based on Luke 2:10. Its message came with a spirit of joy (from Heaven) to all people. So it is to this day hence the worldwide celebrations. The Christmas message is associated with a spirit of great joy to all people, that means the world. Obviously they celebrates it their way. But a Christian observes it with a sense of gratitude for bringing Salvation to mankind.

[1livingdeadgrl]

it's funny cuz when I tell people I don't celebrate Christmas, I'm accused of being a filthy atheist or a jehova's witness....never does it crossed people's minds that some people know a thing or two about the real history of holidays (Valentine's Day or St. Patrick's Day, halloween) and what the bible says. it's all humorous how the devil works and warps things and the word all about!

[consulmalcolm]

only those who want to better themselves, strengthen their faith, learn more when the truth is revealed. however, the die hard christans that refuse to believe anything else are ignorant. God wants us to better ourselves and learn more, when we get to the other side I believe he will ask "do you know the truth" and only those who educated themselves are the only ones that can say yes. Ignorance is bliss

[wanker391]

@consulmalcolm Oh christ aye!

[consulmalcolm]

only those who want to better themselves, strengthen their faith, learn more when the truth is revealed. however, the die hard christans that refuse to believe anything else are ignorant. God wants us to better ourselves and learn more, when we get to the other side I believe he will ask "do you know the truth" and only those who educated themselves are the only ones that can say yes.

[mountainsandsea]

@velvetnotes009 great comment; really! Up until last week, I've been putting up the 'christmas tree' right after thanksgiving. However, on Monday, my 20 year old daughter asked me when are we putting up our tree. I answered her, "I'm not putting it up, because, it's pagan". She was surprised; no doubt and answered me, so we're not exchanging presenst either? I didn't answer that question though. Night before last, I found the tree and all the ensemles up in her room. The 'truth' hurts :o/

[velvetnotes009]

@mountainsandsea Ah!...its hard , especially on Children, as they have been born up to to this. Now I now the truth about this, I cant , just cant participate, its causing problem telling others , they think Im nuts ...I DONT CARE...Im going to follow JESUS until the very end. Wow get seperated from God for a Christmas Tree,,,,oh man! when we know better , we do better. Mountainsandsea...ah that beautiful song...over the the mountains and the sea , his river flows with love for me.....

[mountainsandsea]

@velvetnotes009 Thanks for your reply..made me smile :o) I wasn't aware of that song about mountains and sea! Where can I find it? Well, it didn't have any bearing on my chosing my username. God bless...

[Cashamon242]

@mountainsandsea Maybe you should have shared what you now know about the history of Christmas with her/

[velvetnotes009]

For most people they just dont care! They think its all a big joke...living for this world only....such a shame.... Lying to themselves and teaching their children the lie too! ..anyone can figure out that santa is an anagram asis Nasa...etc., they know its satan...they know...Jesus says they love the darkness more than light, they wont come to the light because their deeds will be exposed! Im RUNNING to the light People.....RUNNING for MY LIFE!......

[Breezybrer4l]

I heard of peopke selling their souls for fame and money so this really doesn"t surpise me it's just another dark hidden truth of worldly things thats decrorated to be appeasing to the mans eye. The older I got i allied Santa for Satan just the N moved around. Heaven and hell is REAL and if people allow the devil to tempt them continually i feel bad for them because no matter what he dresses up to look pretty and appeasing he loses ,because hes going to HELL so people please dont lose with him

[chiconspiricy]

Wherever I hear "Christmas spirit" I want to burst out laughing knowing it's true origins.

[SRamdhani1]

@chiconspiricy Christmas is a phenomenon based on Lk 2:10. Its message is associated with a spirit of GREAT JOY & came TO ALL PEOPLE. So it is to this day hence the worldwide celebrations. This SPIRIT OF JOY is the "Christmas spirit" & is of God & NOT Satan as some would have us believe. That's the origin of the "Christmas spirit". I don't laugh, because I know its true origin. It's Biblical.

[cadet58j]

@SRamdhani1 God's Holy Days, which outline his great plan, are listed in Lev 23. Xmas and Easter (Ishtar) are lies...traditions of men, sun god worship..unwittingly for most maybe, but it is what it is...an abomination in God's eyes. Man likes to take scripture like Luke 2:10 make the context their own (every way of man is right in his own eyes). Scripture such as Jer 10 CLEARLY warns against these Xmas traditions. Satan has deceived the world just as scripture says he would

[SRamdhani1]

@cadet58j We are not under Moses Law but Grace that came by Jesus. Jesus' virgin birth is no "lie".So you are denying that the message of Jesus' birth is associated with a spirit of GREAT JOY & came TO ALL PEOPLE? Then you are denying God's Word. Jer 10 is about GRAVEN IMAGES vs14 that are made of "Molten" gold & silver, & wear "CLOTHING" vs 9. Christmas trees don't wear clothes. Like the Pharisees in Lk 19:39,40 & Judas in Jn.12:1-8 you opinion are wrong. Ask the Holy Spirit to teach you Bible.

[cadet58j]

@SRamdhani1 All I am saying is the Bible does not command that we keep Xmas, but it does say that we are to keep the Sabbath (7th day) and God's Holy Days. And the only "law" that was done away with was the sacrificial system, since Jesus was our Passover. Easter (Ishtar) is also pagan fertility god worship...the "Christians" attend their SUNrise service as described here: Ezekiel 8:13-18. satan through "the great whore" has deceived the world just as the Bible said he would.

[meatmincer]

Jerimiah 10:8. "And at one and the same time they prove to be unreasoning and stupid. A tree is a mere exhortation of vanities.``

[cadet58j]

@meatmincer orly? LMAO! "an exhortation of vanities"..is that what your priest told you? You probably call him "father". No, a tree it a woody perennial plant, typically having a single trunk growing to a considerable height and bearing lateral branches. Every way of man it right in his own eyes, I guess. The "Christian" will make it mean whatever he want's it to. It's simply history that X-mas did not exist until around 400AD when the the catholic church created it to recruit pagans.

[cadet58j]

@meatmincer what translation are you reading? I have KLV, ESV and a Strong's concordance.  It's a tree, man...just like it says

[cadet58j]

@meatmincer Should be "wordmincer", instead of "meatmincer"

[nyc0053]

JEREMIAH 10:3,4 . " For the customs of the peoples are just an exhalation, because it is a mere tree out of the forest that one has cut down, the work of the hands of the craftsman with the billhook. 4 With silver and with gold one makes it pretty. With nails and with hammers they fasten them down, that none may reel. No Christian roots

[Holowachuk]

lol...

our god, the god of israel is a old mountain and weathergod and he once had a wife: ashera.

he is actually a very pagan god.

so dont worry about celebrating christmas!

[jnorth]

Fuck christmas. 25th Dec for me is just a nice day off that i can spend with the family. I don't celebrate christmas though and i'm not religious.

[JamaicanPlum]

I'm so sick of my mother-in-law thinking that my mother is weird for not celebrating Christmas. I'm going to send her this link, she'll probably dismiss it, but at least I tried.

[PreacherTHC]

This might be none of my bee's wax.....But,

What happend? Did she watch the video?

What did she say? Please if it's not any trouble, let me know.

[OldSmellyCrotch]

Try watching- Pharmacratic Inquisition- a little more truthful and the Church certainly wouldn't want you watching it. You could follow that up with Astro-Theology by Jordan Maxwell or Michael Tsarion, but the best work by far in this field of comparative religions can be found within a book called The Secret Teachings of All Ages and in the lecture series Astro-Theology, both by Manly P Hall.

[Corruptedtessa420]

it made me also think of that documentary,highly recommended :)

[PreacherTHC]

I have watched it and it is filled with Half-truths and Half lies. It is the belief of the elite. Jordan Maxwell, And Manly p. Hall are working for the elite! they are lying to you. trying to get you to believe what they want you to believe. If you want some REAL info on this type of stuff look up William Cooper. He told the truth! And was killed for it!

[OldSmellyCrotch]

For crying out loud! If you can't see what is blatantly there then there is no hope for you. Believe what you want, but please don't try and ask anyone with half a brain cell to go a long with yours.

The reason why it's the belief of the elite is because they have been hoarding it for themselves. They'll give you the metaphor as an actual historical account rather give you the meaning to the metaphor throughout history!!!!!

ManlypHall (.)  org

See Astrotheology lecture

[PreacherTHC]

I never said anything about my beliefs! My beliefs are mine own, and I'm not telling anybody what to believe! I was just stating the truth about these so-called Exposers of the elite. Manly p. Hall Was a Mason, and a mystic! Jordan Maxwell is telling Only half the truth, the other half is a lie!

They already have there new world order, so they don't need to hide anymore! They can reveal themselves to the world. But they are still trying to decieve! Do some research about William Cooper.

[OldSmellyCrotch]

....and if you read back you'll notice that I never said anything about your beliefs, I said you can believe what you want, but not to expect anyone with half a brain cell to go a long with yours.

In 1973 (47 years after writing The Secret Teachings of All Ages), Hall was recognized as a 33º Mason (the highest honour conferred by the Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite), at a ceremony held at PRS on December 8th, despite never being initiated into the physical craft.-- What's your point?

[OldSmellyCrotch]

Yes, I agree Mr Maxwell is going of on some Alien thing and I'm not sure why, maybe a UFO buck to be had? He seems to base it on:

Come, let us go down and make man in our image.

.....I know that he knows this is referring to the Greek creation story, philosophy and mystery schools regarding the planets as being physical representations of the human conscience and form, so, what Aliens have to do with it is beyond me.

[PreacherTHC]

The alien agenda is very real! Altho it is not aliens from some other planet. But rather A human deception. They want the world to believe in aliens, and that there about to invade. That way the whole world will have to come together and form a new world order, to combat the threat.

They might even fake a alien landing and trick the whole world. Reaserch into project Bluebeam.

[PreacherTHC]

Yes you did! You said twice now that I can believe what I want, and not to make others With half a brain cell(An Insult to me) believe what I believe. You brought beliefs into this. I don't care what you believe, or anybody else. I'm just stating some facts. Think about it! These people are about to pull the biggest deception since the beggining of time, on the whole human race! They tell the world that Religion is a lie, Then they tell the world that man is his own god.

[OldSmellyCrotch]

I don't think we're saying that religion is a lie, but that religion is a veiled story regarding the philosophy of man's creation. To say, however, that Jesus, or any other "God on Earth" for that matter, is anything other than a myth would be a lie. But to understand these then you'll have to read up on your philosophy. That said, a website that holds a lot of information about Christianity and easily accessible is found at freetruth 50webs

Google: Things They Don't Tell You About Christianity

[xxneddaxx]

yes william cooper was awesome! RIP

[Siru604]

Screw Catholicism! Flying Spaghetti Monster ftw! Let us all be blessed by his noodly appendage!!

[allwillbowdown2jesus]

People love to worship Satan and most do not even know it and when they find out they are they love sin so much they refuse to stop...

[davedavedude]

Were no strangers to love You know the rules and so do i A full commitments what Im thinking of You wouldnt get this from any other guy I just wanna tell you how Im feeling Gotta make you understand * never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

[BLESSEDone333]

Jesus was born in September - the time of the census - some believe it was in the year 3 also.

I have never seen this documentary but have seen many others like this and read books on the subject. They are being fairly truthful in their presentation -

[PreacherTHC]

What do you mean "fairly truthful" What is it leaving out?

[Barberioclan7]

You are right. People love to live the lie, and since their Creator doesn't force Himself on anyone, He lets them get what it is that they want. They don't want Him, they want the "feel-goods" of Christmas, Christianity, and this whole Babylonian mess

[vman996]

I cant believe Chatholics and Christians cherry pick the bits they want to believe and forget its TRUE history and the fact that its ALL been invented my smart men to control stupid men....Religious nutters, they really are insane...

[BananaHurricane]

Indeed

[krezzz3]

as a christian i agree with you.

[jordanrivers1]

im jewish!!!happy hanukkah

[thesidekick]

december...the time all my jewish friends remind me they're jewish

[Barberioclan7]

Thanks for this comment! I have been reflecting on it all week since I read it. It has made me smile every time! How blessed we are to be "Qodeshim" or "set-apart". Bless HaShem!

[Barberioclan7]

Shalom from all of us up here on the coastlands... You are not alone my friend. Happy Hannukah from all of us!

[TrickyDOTcom]

your right bro the best way is to buy year round for your kid. he can celebrate year round whats better than that!!!

[buggeazy]

i agree 100% but im trapped in the matrix i grew up on it and its still in my fucking blood good luck with you tho but i dont go to church thas a start

[TrickyDOTcom]

thats real i was just like you. i just recently woke up this summer! Good Job Bro!! Stop going is a start and telling your fam your not celebrating that stuff is where th journey begins LOL

[buggeazy]

ok dont buy your girlfriend nothing or your child nothing see how long you last my friend your traped in the matrix

[buggeazy]

yes but you have to come together on this issue becuse your out numberd in this country ether play on the team or quit and quitters are usely loosers

[buggeazy]

well i say were traped in the matrix because if i ignor mothers and fathers day i will be hated by my parents if i ignor christ-mas i will be terribly hated by my children

[Kidcky]

How could Jesus have been born during December? The winter solactice?

It just doesn't seem to add up.

[guy5497]

Sad thing is that many do not believe in Christmas but the hypocrites cravingly receive Christmas bonus with two trembling hands.

[Sinleby]

Jesus never asked us to celebrate his birth. Rather he implored that we celebrate his death with the wine and bread thing. Christmas is a holiday of industry. Tell me, how are u celebrating "jesus' birth" by each other preasents and throwing parties. And what the hell does Santa have to do with anything?

[guy5497]

Santa's supposed to be the asshole mate. :)

[floodphobia777]

Celebrate his ressurection. Not death.

(Reply to Sinleby)

[1truth2manylies]

Christmas is pagan to the core and has nothing to do with Jesus

[geneofisis]

Excellent! Read up on some of this before but a good refresher.

[TEWAY2]

Don't you think if Jesus wanted us to celebrate hristmas he would have told us when and how to celebrate this pagan holiday. He would have given us a scripture and passage. Better yet, if it is his birthday, why do people give gifts to other people besides Christ. I stopped celebrating christmas a year ago, it is just another ploy by the enemy. Who really knows when Jesus was born? I sure don't. If anyone can give me the scripture that tells me the day Jesus was born, please let me know.

[mcguck]

The Bible gives many implacations to when and where he was born. It would of been in the late summer early fall due to the shepards out in the field at night. also the star followed came during that season as well. Also it was close to a feast held during late summer early fall.

[tariqziyad]

the bible is a fairy tale dumb ass, not an actual history

[michaelflat]

Lets say for one moment my friend just for a second hypothetically it is true, hypothetically if it is the consequences it claims are true, there is much you didnt know as an infant and many theories in the late years have been replaced by truer ones,should you not seek to see if there is even 1 out of 1000000th of a chance. HYpothetically, hey listen man this isnt about some guy being right this is about truth. Take care man hope the best for you man

[tariqziyad]

jesus never existed you ignorant buffoon

[michaelflat]

then please my friend honestly research it

[michaelflat]

THe credibility of Christ, you know what could you lose by spending a coulpe hours or so doing it, if its not true then provee it. I have honestly been wrong about things I have thought were genuinely true before that later I found to be false

[AmbientMusic]

Lurking behind all of the glittering lights and flashy Christmas trees, there is massive toxic e-waste, child slave labour in China, a prison industrial complex, and more. We are all culpable in the crass consumerism, and these are the things which we must look at, address, and remedy, before it's too late. What are we doing to others? What are we doing to ourselves? The Earth? Think!

[amalcut]

I get sick everytime I here people say they are celebrating the birth of Christ or say that people are forgetting the true meaning of Christmas when they don't even know the truth themselves. I was lied too and luckily I learned the truth about Roman Catholicim and this Pagan holiday.

[kkgemini86]

Christmas MAY NOT be Christ's bday BUT its symbolic and THAT'S why it has TRUE meaning behind it. Was every mother born on mother's day? HELL NO but I bet your ass goes out and buy her a gift for the occasion. Just like we put days aside (days that weren't anything prior) to appreciate things. That's what I do for Christmas. I'm not believing in a lie (Santa) and my intentions are pure... so who the hell are you (or anybody) to say, I can't or shouldn't celebrate a day that's not exact?

[I8daUN]

B/c it is pagan and God tells us now to mix with the pagans- that is what your doing when you celebrate Christ-Mass...The Catholic Church christianized a pagan tradition...Read scripture and you will be convicted over it, hopefully

[krezzz3]

im sure any day u chose to put God in is a good day. true christians teach there kids the meaning of christmas as jesus' birth. it dosent revolve around materialistic views and reindeer. ive been aware of the origins of christmas for a long time and i was always looked at as a fool for knowing what most ppl dont. but treating christmas as jesus' day is like turning a bad thing good

[TrickyDOTcom]

your suppose to celebrate mothers day everyday bro. not just some day the designated to celebrate it. your suppose to show and be joyful of your wife year round!

[PreacherTHC]

Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.Colossians Ch2 v16-17 You can celibrate what ever Holiday you whant to. But at least do from a position of knowing the truth! Dec 25 is a pagan holiday and Jesus was not born in the winter. That is the truth! If your a Christian pray and ask God what to do.

[jtw1113]

damn!

[phoenix144000]

Roman Catholics again - supposed to be the mother of all Christian churches - but not basing traditions on Bibical scripture & making fools of the whole Christian family of churches to the world. Why did they not just consecrate this pagan festival & associate it as the birth(day) of the Christian Church & triumph over paganism, instead of misleading all by calling it Jesus Christ's birthday?

[narucraze1]

@phoenix144000 actually coptic christianity is the first and mother of all western versions of christianity..

[khammurabi]

good info!