the girl who plays lily is gorgeous, and i love sigourney weaver! excellent actresses to play these roles. this is quickly making it's way to being my favorite movie!
You did feel sympathy for the stepmother here. All she did was ask Lily to wear the dress she bought her. Instead Lily wore her mother's dress on purpose to mess with the stepmother. Ir's one thing to not like a person, but it's another to purposely take digs at them.
yes but u'll c why later not of that matters. the stepmothers a bitch all the same after what she does throughout the entire movie. not only is she a pshco but...i don't know.
@knbri that's not true she didn't buy the dress it was a dress she wore as a child and lily didn't want to wear it because she thought it was a childish dress and she was to old for it. that's wy she didn't wore the dress
I don't think they made the stepmother a sympathetic character at all, in fact all the foreshadowing at the beginning of the movie points to a much darker character. It took jealousy over Lily's relationship with her father for her truer nature to shine through. It was only a matter of time before composure fell away to more devious intent because underneath she was vain and envious.
I understand how everyone thinks the stepmother is great, but then there is the matter of the last scene, where her "wardrobe" or whatever it is murdered the maid... and her conniving expressions at the girl the entire movie long... she is a very convincing villainous. And don't get me wrong. I LOVE Sigourney Weaver. She is the perfect antagonist of this plot, and the perfect protagonist of several movies. She is one of the best actresses I've ever known! Much love!
This is awesome! it has a ''Hallmark films'' feel to it. Apparently Kristen Stewart is going to star in a new ''Snow White'', it really looks interesting.
It wasn't Lilli wearing the dress that made her so upset, it was everyone, especially her father, paying attention to her instead. She was jealous and couldn't stand being in second place, nothing more. She was always cold, but losing her child made her bitter and Lilli was a constant reminder of what she herself could never have. THAT is what made her so evil.
@queenb1793 I think it had more to do with the fact that he mentioned how much Lilli looked like her mother. It brought her stress to know that the man she loves still has fresh and fond memories of his former wife. As we all know stress and childbirth do not mix and that's what caused the baby to be stillborn. She blamed Lilli for the loss of her child and stealing the attention from her husband.
Much more complex than the original beauty jealousy, eh?
I think that the queen WAS a nice person in the beginning but she went crazy due to the lack of affection of her husband, the spoilt behavior of her step daughter who she was TRYING to be nice to, her husband loved his dead wife BY FAR more than Claudia though she tried her best to please him, and her loss of her baby :/ I felt sad for her more than I felt bad for snow white!
Lilly is so damn beautiful... but such a little bitch! The stepmother was so kind to her since the beginning, and she just went treating her stepmom bad and bad and trying to put her down and compete against her all the time... sometimes a person can't stand anymore, and guess that's why the stepmother became so damn evil...
god lily needs to get over her mother. she's been dead. stop being selfish and think about your father for a sec and how he might need some company, not worshiping his dead wife. claudia is evil? who made her evil in the first place
in the entire Lili vs Claudia "who's the real victim? " discussion I choose Lord Hoffman. These two women are both vain. They both equate beauty with power. Claudia used her's to capture Hoffman's affections so that she could become a respected lady and not just some evil witch's daughter, Lili uses hers because she resembles her dead mother to steal attention from Claudia because it makes her feel as if her mother is still the first in her father's heart.He bears the brunt the damage in the end
There's nothing like Fetus dumplings! Wicked women in the Far East ate Fetus dumplings of still born to retain their youth well into old age! It is Truly the answer
well thts what happens when your vanity comes 1st before anything else....and anthing good tht happens goes down hill as karma wld have bitten you orgaxmicly hard on the arse
I have a grimm book and I think this story was closer to the more "grimm like" tale. I can understand why Lily was being a brat but at times you could tell that she was over doing it. I believe that if she would have just coped with it the stepmother would have been fine. This movie was the bomb.
I like that this version made the stepmother somewhat sympathetic and the heroine somewhat unlikable. It made it more interesting. The original fairy tales were horror stories, not Disney stories with birdies and cute baby animals.
the step mother i think was just trying to be nice to her step daughter... if she hadnt gone and been horrible towards her maybe none of this would have happend
@laniasmith07 they had almost every thing back then.the problem we have now is that many things in the stores arent natural.before i never knew that people could get soap in the nature and hair styling products.....
And a bone to pick about her singing. There is no way a woman that far along has the room in her body to have that kind of lung capacity for long notes like that!! She would be catching her breath like she had just run laps in the place!
@dontfencemein1979 its a movie....and its not actually that high....maybe just a little if you're alto, but then you just need more support and open your throat more, and then its not as challenging.
I think this is a good representation of what a birth/ miscarriage is like. So many movie writers/directors seem to do away with the blood and distress. Kudos to the accurate version.
The crow in the first scene was there when the accident happened. Also, Claudia uses the crow to cause more harm. I think either the step-mother or the mirror was involved in Lilli's mother dying, so Claudia could take her place in the future. Lilly has female intuition about it and dislikes her step-mother. She can sense something is wrong with the whole situation. I don't think she is being a brat at all.
A jealousy fit caused her a baby, no need to get upset over lilli wearing something that belonged to her mother especially back then girls wanted nothing more than to wear clothing, jewels, or accessories that once belonged to their mothers. She was pregnant with a boy and her husband loved her no need to be jealous of his dead wife either. After all it was her paintings that hung in the house.
so it was Snow White's fault then....Gah I have always liked this story bu in this i wanted to slap that little prick in her face. spoiled rotten thing. that was so wrong how she acted.
There's obviously a demon of some description in the mirror which is fed by her vanity and hatred. I think the dark magic in the mirror keeps her forever young and attractive (hence why the hormones don't effect her beauty) but lowers her fertility. Nevertheless I think Claudia had a good soul so the Mirror worked about destroying that by allowing her a child, then taking it from her. She's just hit her lowest point so now's the demon's perfect opportunity to take control.
I really felt pity for the stepmother when she saw her face in the mirror. This movie makes me so glad that I'm born in a century where there are other options for women in life than to be companions and childbearers.
losing a child is enough to drive any woman mad, especially after waiting so long to have one. I feel sorry for Claudia. They have a great actress playing her part =D
losing a child is enough to drive any woman mad, especially after waiting so long to have one. I feel sorry for Claudia. They have a great actress playing her part =D
Wow, snow white is a spoiled b!tch,,,,,I sure as hell wouldn't want her as a step-child ,,,parents remarry,, that's life,,,,snow white purposely stopped the show while her step-mother was singing,,, I can never understand children who do not want their parents to remarry and have a happy life,,,,my step-dad was the best,,, Lilli wasn't like a mistress,,,then i could understand the hatred,,,no,she was just the second wife,,,poor lilli,,,,snow white sucks
@chickencurry58 yet I got that after i pressed post,,, I meant Claudia,,oh well,,,in the true story of snow white,,it is Snow White's real mom that tries to kill her,,,there was no step-mom
@ealaara she was acting like a normal rebellious teen. Plus counsellors or therapists didn't really exist in that era so you kinda were left to deal with emotional problems on your own. Not to mention it didn't help that everyone kept praising her dead mother and making her seem like the best leaving no room for lili to accept another person in her family.
@Strymn Even with all the counsellors and therapists in this time,,,a spoiled little bitch is a spoiled little bitch,,,I wouldn't call it normal,,there are many teens who adjust well to a stepmom or stepdad,,,,you're right about the people,,,it is the fault of the dad and the people around plus a spoiled child who is used to getting what they want,,,,,weren't the clergy like counsellors of a sort?
@ealaara mmm not really, i think priests might've been close but still not all that helpful. i still think it was unfair of people around her to praise her so and were comparing her too much, but yeah a spoiled brat is responsible for her own actions.
I find Claudia, while sympathetic, a villain. Her motivations make more sense then most adaptations like Disney's which makes her all the more fascinating. Lili's dislike of her makes sense too, given that she's replacing her mother and even rubbing it in Lili's face that she's carrying the boy her father desires which makes Lili feel unwanted.
i think its just like any doughter who is jelouse with other women toward her father and she just wanted his attention for atleast a night and the step mom bein used to havin all the attention at the events with her beauty and her voice got mad when snow white took the attention not only of the people but of the father and when she noticed that snow white did it like a challenge... well thats what i think
The woman was wicked from the begining... her soul sold to her mirror.... to herself. Her need is to be the number one, granted no woman should bare to loose there child. She was a coveting woman from what others had, yet when Lilly wore her mothers dress, the stress and haunting of it all was to much. But as you see in the beginning, the Step mother was nice indeed, but as innocent child eyes are always able to see, she new her step mothers kindness was a false perception.
Don't assume that just because she's the stepmother she has to be evil. That's hardly fair.
"innocent child eyes are always able to see"? Children are the least capable of telling good from bad because they're gullible. Innocence simply implies that they easily corrupted and manipulated. Children perceive others in a way that is purely based on superficial appearances, it's hard for them to tell when they're being lied to.
@00xque00 I doubt it. Kids are my profession and as I know, they have a true sight of people most miss as adults. Small lies are easy to miss.... but when a child hears a lot of small lies, the big picture is clear. Yea, Lilly is a brat I don't argue that... but that stepmother is evil and is willing to kill as many innocent as she likes to get what she wants. She is not evil because she is a stepmom, not hardly she is evil because she is a sociopath. She's evil by choice.
@MyLovingAngel The mother didn't turn evil until she lost her child. Before that she seemed a perfectly normal person.A little bit jealous like all women tend to be but HARDLY a sociopath and not "evil". She was GENUINELY nice to Lilli!
I do agree that in the "disney version" of this story the stepmother is a complete psychopath from the beginning, but in this movie the story is set so that viewers can understand and sympathise with the mother's side of the story.
@00xque00 Wait i meant sympathise but not AGREE. I read over that and it sounded like i was saying "killing is good" >_<
She becomes willing to kill innocent people AFTER her early labor and losing her long awaited child. I mean, 9 years is a very long time. To lose it after that would be understandably devastating.
My first comment was based on psychology, not experience with children. And most people can see the big picture after lots of small lies, not just children. What do you mean by that?
@00xque00 From the moment Lilli saw her she could tell that her Step Mom was strange. But after seeing her mirror murdered a maid, Lilli could tell her stepmom wasn't all there. I do agree with you though that she was not fully demonic until her child was lost. That is a very good point. But from that moment you agree she was evil. I mean people can be lead astray even when they see the bad.... but when a child sees the bad, the lies, they are harder to get to retrust. thats all i mean.
@00xque00 I'm not saying she was evil before her loss, I am saying she was clearly not in the right mind set. She was kind to little Lilli only to buy her love and Lilli saw right through it.
Actually, I'm inclined to disagree with you. While the stepmother certainly sold her soul to the mirror, both for power and eternal beauty, I don't believe that she was evil in the beginning. She only wanted what any woman of that time would wish for: a home, family, flesh born from hers in the form of a child, and the love of her husband. She tried to be kind to Lilly, but as time went on, and the child grew more beautiful, her insecurities grew. So she in turned became evil
I think Snow White was just trying to remind her stepmom that she wasn't little anymore, because her stepmom knew her when she was little and still saw her as that little girl. All parents have a hard time noticing when their kids get older.
the stepmom not only was jealous of Lilli not wearing her gown,but also she reminded her father about her late mother and the stepmom knew he still loved her even though she's his current wife
maybe as people say the stepmom wast a bitch....at first...but she was a witch lmao....seriously if ou pay attention when she look at lilly she gives her this evil type eye smile thing :) so ya she wa kinda evil inside i think
dude, I don't understand why she's upset at around 9:20 when she's looking at herself in the mirror, I mean, she needs to understand that she just gave birth! no one looks put together or glamorous after giving birth! And why didn't the father go and comfort her after hearing that she had a miscarriage? Doesn't he care about her? WHY was she left ALONE in that state? [sigh] feel kinda bad for the stepmom :/
@h0lyd4bi3n This is supposed to be like back in the day, women were simply companions and child-bearers, that's it. Also, unlike now, and it being a "team effort", it wasn't like that then. Times change, though, and yeah, I can imagine the step mother going INSANE and HATING her step daughter. She lost her baby, whom was cast into the fire all uncaring like, and not to mention Lily treats her like shit. <_< I'd want her to "go away", too. D:
Poor baby indeed, but that's probably what happened to the bodies of stubborn babies. It was believed back then that stubborn babies didn't have souls and thus couldn't be buried in a grave
yea, the death of a child would rise red flags and most would think it was the work of the devil or that the mother had a covenant with the devil. which is why they would burn the still born.
@bwoww I know. All throughout her marriage,the ghost of Lilliana(Lilli's Mom) has been "haunting" her. With Lilli showing up and taking the attention away from her,Claudia looked like she realized she lost.
Now, Claudia's "party dress" would have been considered indecent around this time. Woman did not exposed cleavange back in the 10th-early 17th Century and it was considered scandaleous to that. Back then, woman had to cover up their breasts with every intention to appear modest and lady-like. Usually, a woman who shows her cleavage would have been considered a whore and nothing more.
What year is the timeline of this movie suppose to be? 14th? 15th Century? It doesn't give a specific timeline, so I presume it is around the Black Plague era.
It's sick that the stepmother is jalous because Friederick thinks that his OWN daugther is beatiful and looks like her mother! It would be wierd if he react on a diffrient way wouldn't it?
Yes, I see that it was used during the Renaissance but became out of favor when doctors replaced mid-wives. It didn't come back into fashion again until the latter part of the 20th century.
About Claudia vs Lilly: i think they have good and bad characteristics because a person is always mixed...nobody is purely good or bad (normally)they are even at the beginning...the movie shows the evolution:stepmother becoming an obsessed, raving lunatic, while Lilly becomes a woman, who can make the difference between good and bad...she becomes a better person in the end. stronger.those guys called her princess just because she was a rich man's daughter. Irony. That is what i think...
@bathoryeszter Only because im studying fairytales at the moment, i feel i should respond - fairytale characters are meant to be two dimensional to better serve their purpose as being symbolic representations of our inner emotions. The purpose of fairytales is to give our subconscious a deeper understanding of anxieties and how to deal with them.
@bathoryeszter (cont.)Films such as these which portay the heroine as being inconsiderate of others raises our antipathy for them, whereas its the stepmother that raises our sympathy. It doesn't have the same subliminal impact on us. But then, fairytales werent told for the cinema, where 3 dimensional characters are needed for believabilty.
Besides the point that if you look at her closely, Claudia seems to thrive the best when she has everyone's attention on her. That's why she's always got to be the most well-liked and it's why she's always trying to squash Lillian's beauty. She can't stand the competition.
i think the reason the queen got so mad was becuase she lost her mind after waiting so long to have a child it died . becuase she went into labor early
i dont think that she actually hated lilly becuase it was obivous she was trying to be nice she even asked her why they fault but lilly still pushed it . i acutally feel really bad for the queen becuase it seemed like she was trying so hard an every thing she did went to crap . :(
I don't really feel bad for the queen as some seem to. She is jealous not only of the kings past away wife, but also clearly of Lilly herself. If you go back to part 2 you see her showing off infront of the kings small daughter as they make out and here she is angry at him being concerned about Lilly. She is extremely possesive and vindicitiv and she blames the girl, even if Lillys anger may have been unjustified at the very first sight, for everything that goes wrong for her.
the girl who plays lily is gorgeous, and i love sigourney weaver! excellent actresses to play these roles. this is quickly making it's way to being my favorite movie!
rachelle88888888 2 weeks ago in playlist Snow White: A Tale Of Terror
So, the baby was alive, couse I think I hear a crying...?????!!!
2dea4 1 month ago
You did feel sympathy for the stepmother here. All she did was ask Lily to wear the dress she bought her. Instead Lily wore her mother's dress on purpose to mess with the stepmother. Ir's one thing to not like a person, but it's another to purposely take digs at them.
knbri 1 month ago
@knbri
yes but u'll c why later not of that matters. the stepmothers a bitch all the same after what she does throughout the entire movie. not only is she a pshco but...i don't know.
Haley10016 1 month ago
@knbri that's not true she didn't buy the dress it was a dress she wore as a child and lily didn't want to wear it because she thought it was a childish dress and she was to old for it. that's wy she didn't wore the dress
tjawiljewelweten 6 days ago
I love how awesome this movie is! Snow White and the Evil Queen are so complicated
PrincessSybilla77 1 month ago
05:15'te başlayan şarkının adını bilen var mı ya hu??
05:15 song name??
kralzorba 1 month ago
I don't think they made the stepmother a sympathetic character at all, in fact all the foreshadowing at the beginning of the movie points to a much darker character. It took jealousy over Lily's relationship with her father for her truer nature to shine through. It was only a matter of time before composure fell away to more devious intent because underneath she was vain and envious.
smwildmon01 2 months ago 2
Siggy is such a fantastic actress, and she looks lovely in this movie. Lil is of course, just beautiful.
missmuggledetector 2 months ago
I understand how everyone thinks the stepmother is great, but then there is the matter of the last scene, where her "wardrobe" or whatever it is murdered the maid... and her conniving expressions at the girl the entire movie long... she is a very convincing villainous. And don't get me wrong. I LOVE Sigourney Weaver. She is the perfect antagonist of this plot, and the perfect protagonist of several movies. She is one of the best actresses I've ever known! Much love!
steeltitan04 2 months ago 2
@steeltitan04 AND I agree about Snow White being a stuck-up B* in this movie. The Realism. It's where it's at. :)
steeltitan04 2 months ago
Thank you for posting it is greatly appreciated.
lazarus611 3 months ago
This is awesome! it has a ''Hallmark films'' feel to it. Apparently Kristen Stewart is going to star in a new ''Snow White'', it really looks interesting.
RachelHurdWood4ever2 3 months ago
Sigourney Weaver really did give an outstanding, Oscar worthy performance in this film.
TheAltair4 3 months ago 4
7:51 WAS THAT HER BABY THAT THEY JUST THREW IN THE FIRE?! o_o
kaylinheartschu93 4 months ago
@kaylinheartschu93
Yes. Back then they thought it dangerous to keep the baby's body intact, because an evil spirit could possess it. So they burned the corpse.
Lunara13 4 months ago
@kaylinheartschu93 i think so :-SS well they burned the old nanny as well :-(
kaxpl 3 months ago
why was she so upset when she looked in the mirror? all women dont look so good right after they give birth :/
SugarBunnny 5 months ago 4
It wasn't Lilli wearing the dress that made her so upset, it was everyone, especially her father, paying attention to her instead. She was jealous and couldn't stand being in second place, nothing more. She was always cold, but losing her child made her bitter and Lilli was a constant reminder of what she herself could never have. THAT is what made her so evil.
queenb1793 5 months ago 8
@queenb1793 I think it had more to do with the fact that he mentioned how much Lilli looked like her mother. It brought her stress to know that the man she loves still has fresh and fond memories of his former wife. As we all know stress and childbirth do not mix and that's what caused the baby to be stillborn. She blamed Lilli for the loss of her child and stealing the attention from her husband.
Much more complex than the original beauty jealousy, eh?
FantasmaLuna 5 months ago 2
I think that the queen WAS a nice person in the beginning but she went crazy due to the lack of affection of her husband, the spoilt behavior of her step daughter who she was TRYING to be nice to, her husband loved his dead wife BY FAR more than Claudia though she tried her best to please him, and her loss of her baby :/ I felt sad for her more than I felt bad for snow white!
naminesoraluv 5 months ago 2
when she wore her Mom's gown, it breaks her step mom's heart, she is a bit mean doing that! I wont blame the mother for being evil in the end!
tatakpinoy2 5 months ago
Lilly is so damn beautiful... but such a little bitch! The stepmother was so kind to her since the beginning, and she just went treating her stepmom bad and bad and trying to put her down and compete against her all the time... sometimes a person can't stand anymore, and guess that's why the stepmother became so damn evil...
The loss of her baby was Lilly's fault!
valericool 6 months ago
ok, everybody here is a WITNESS that Snow White was the bitch here! She had it coming!
valericool 6 months ago
god lily needs to get over her mother. she's been dead. stop being selfish and think about your father for a sec and how he might need some company, not worshiping his dead wife. claudia is evil? who made her evil in the first place
01Jien 6 months ago
i think chistan rissa (misspelled i think) would made a better snow white. her skin is pale.
17purplequeen 6 months ago
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SuperAiden007 6 months ago
unrelated and unnecessary but who thinks katy perry would make a great snow white
prettyeyessxoxo 7 months ago
birthing scene was so horrid! and throwing a baby into a fire? how barbaric!!!!!!
dotcomguy79 7 months ago in playlist Snow White: A Tale Of Terror
@MsYuna97 what do you expect to do with a corpse? Make it as a souvenir?
copyright12302010 7 months ago in playlist Fairy Tales
in the entire Lili vs Claudia "who's the real victim? " discussion I choose Lord Hoffman. These two women are both vain. They both equate beauty with power. Claudia used her's to capture Hoffman's affections so that she could become a respected lady and not just some evil witch's daughter, Lili uses hers because she resembles her dead mother to steal attention from Claudia because it makes her feel as if her mother is still the first in her father's heart.He bears the brunt the damage in the end
joygasm916 7 months ago 2
There's nothing like Fetus dumplings! Wicked women in the Far East ate Fetus dumplings of still born to retain their youth well into old age! It is Truly the answer
to staying young!
peymaania 8 months ago
why did people in that time burn there stillborns? did they not bury them like we do toay?
kikyosan543 8 months ago
@kikyosan543
I can't say for sure, but I think it had something to do with evil spirits possibly inhabiting the baby if the corpse was left alone
Lunara13 8 months ago
well thts what happens when your vanity comes 1st before anything else....and anthing good tht happens goes down hill as karma wld have bitten you orgaxmicly hard on the arse
Alwayzluvz2snuggle 9 months ago
Does anyone else think it's a bit disturbing for Lily to be trying to look like her mother for her dad? Seriously!
chavamara 10 months ago 9
@chavamara In Psychology, it's called electra complex. It's much like Oedipus complex.
twinkalicious123 8 months ago
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Does anybody knows what's the music at 05:16 ?
thesearmsarenines 10 months ago
I have a grimm book and I think this story was closer to the more "grimm like" tale. I can understand why Lily was being a brat but at times you could tell that she was over doing it. I believe that if she would have just coped with it the stepmother would have been fine. This movie was the bomb.
Maddluv4eric 10 months ago 14
I like that this version made the stepmother somewhat sympathetic and the heroine somewhat unlikable. It made it more interesting. The original fairy tales were horror stories, not Disney stories with birdies and cute baby animals.
happybkwrm 11 months ago 21
sigourney has an amazing singing voice, absolutely breathtaking
KongOpusMagnum 11 months ago
@KongOpusMagnum
She was lipsyncing
ThornUvDaath777 11 months ago
takes little to make a woman miscarry back then
themaxster100 11 months ago
whats the name of the song that she sing in this scene?????
oODIVINE84Oo 1 year ago
after all that time she finally had a baby?!?! lol
ranifan702 1 year ago
lol that woman talks to herself waaay too much
Fatkidsaliva 1 year ago
9 years for you to come? shou;d be 9 months
Viktogarage 1 year ago
the step mother i think was just trying to be nice to her step daughter... if she hadnt gone and been horrible towards her maybe none of this would have happend
NathanJesseMcCarthy 1 year ago 4
damn those people should of bury the baby not put the baby in the fire ! wth.
cherri7 1 year ago 2
That stuff she put on her face looks like straight up crisco.
ramsizomfg 1 year ago
@ElectricShark Thank you, that's me singing. Sigourney Weaver lipsang to my voice. You can hear the whole song at my website, karenhartmusic
KarenHartMusic 1 year ago
they had foundation back then?? lol
laniasmith07 1 year ago 3
@laniasmith07 yes.
RaptorLuv 1 year ago
@laniasmith07 they had almost every thing back then.the problem we have now is that many things in the stores arent natural.before i never knew that people could get soap in the nature and hair styling products.....
cherri7 1 year ago
claudia is evil.
DemiLovatoFanSince07 1 year ago
ok if i had a step mother as nice as that then i would be greatful, BTW just saying,
NIVEKPRODUCTIONSTV 1 year ago 4
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NIVEKPRODUCTIONSTV 1 year ago
Lilli is so annoying in this movie. wasn't snow white suppose to be kind?
180missymoo 1 year ago 3
@180missymoo i agree.since the beggining she was the one who was evil not the step mother like the way it was suppose to be.
cherri7 1 year ago
Such a beautiful song she sang!
ElectricShark 1 year ago
jealousy becomes sigourney weaver! ps... she's giving birth in the middle of the ball room!!!!
blondbergers 1 year ago
And a bone to pick about her singing. There is no way a woman that far along has the room in her body to have that kind of lung capacity for long notes like that!! She would be catching her breath like she had just run laps in the place!
dontfencemein1979 1 year ago
@dontfencemein1979 its a movie....and its not actually that high....maybe just a little if you're alto, but then you just need more support and open your throat more, and then its not as challenging.
lovedarlingjulie2435 1 year ago 2
I think this is a good representation of what a birth/ miscarriage is like. So many movie writers/directors seem to do away with the blood and distress. Kudos to the accurate version.
dontfencemein1979 1 year ago
@dontfencemein1979 and not over or under acted!!!! thats a plus aswell. its not sooo dramatic that its like, okay, get over it kida thing
lovedarlingjulie2435 1 year ago
She tried to be a good stepmother though and Lilli ruined it.
kmaalona 1 year ago
@kmaalona lilli is a brat. too spoiled. no one should be spoiled that much. they soon become the everything has to go my way people.
lovedarlingjulie2435 1 year ago
I'm with Lilli on this one.
The crow in the first scene was there when the accident happened. Also, Claudia uses the crow to cause more harm. I think either the step-mother or the mirror was involved in Lilli's mother dying, so Claudia could take her place in the future. Lilly has female intuition about it and dislikes her step-mother. She can sense something is wrong with the whole situation. I don't think she is being a brat at all.
honeystars1 1 year ago 7
A jealousy fit caused her a baby, no need to get upset over lilli wearing something that belonged to her mother especially back then girls wanted nothing more than to wear clothing, jewels, or accessories that once belonged to their mothers. She was pregnant with a boy and her husband loved her no need to be jealous of his dead wife either. After all it was her paintings that hung in the house.
zully87 1 year ago
so it was Snow White's fault then....Gah I have always liked this story bu in this i wanted to slap that little prick in her face. spoiled rotten thing. that was so wrong how she acted.
CrazyGood88 1 year ago
I can't stand Sigourney crying. It breaks my heart. :(
CaptainPolaris 1 year ago 43
There's obviously a demon of some description in the mirror which is fed by her vanity and hatred. I think the dark magic in the mirror keeps her forever young and attractive (hence why the hormones don't effect her beauty) but lowers her fertility. Nevertheless I think Claudia had a good soul so the Mirror worked about destroying that by allowing her a child, then taking it from her. She's just hit her lowest point so now's the demon's perfect opportunity to take control.
ghtjdjdhfjeosnvcurth 1 year ago
sigourney weaver is awesome
Tibbzbbz 1 year ago 4
I really felt pity for the stepmother when she saw her face in the mirror. This movie makes me so glad that I'm born in a century where there are other options for women in life than to be companions and childbearers.
coolme158 1 year ago
losing a child is enough to drive any woman mad, especially after waiting so long to have one. I feel sorry for Claudia. They have a great actress playing her part =D
That damned mirror's what's evil
rina123456 1 year ago
losing a child is enough to drive any woman mad, especially after waiting so long to have one. I feel sorry for Claudia. They have a great actress playing her part =D
rina123456 1 year ago
ah i love that music xD ^^
narninil 1 year ago
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axingurl81 1 year ago
LOL i wonder if the dancing music was these days hot rocking?
scrumsie 1 year ago 2
naa i think she's evil at 1st coz she wldn't hv kept the weird mirror..
bebedt 1 year ago
@bebedt I know why do all these people think she is nice :O
Ethanride 1 year ago
@Ethanride really? haha y?
bebedt 1 year ago
Lily's voice is kind of annoying. It feels like there is no emotion in it whatsoever.
Dazzlemefine 1 year ago
Wow, snow white is a spoiled b!tch,,,,,I sure as hell wouldn't want her as a step-child ,,,parents remarry,, that's life,,,,snow white purposely stopped the show while her step-mother was singing,,, I can never understand children who do not want their parents to remarry and have a happy life,,,,my step-dad was the best,,, Lilli wasn't like a mistress,,,then i could understand the hatred,,,no,she was just the second wife,,,poor lilli,,,,snow white sucks
ealaara 1 year ago
@ealaara lilli is the name of snow white in this film
chickencurry58 1 year ago
@chickencurry58 yet I got that after i pressed post,,, I meant Claudia,,oh well,,,in the true story of snow white,,it is Snow White's real mom that tries to kill her,,,there was no step-mom
ealaara 1 year ago
@ealaara she was acting like a normal rebellious teen. Plus counsellors or therapists didn't really exist in that era so you kinda were left to deal with emotional problems on your own. Not to mention it didn't help that everyone kept praising her dead mother and making her seem like the best leaving no room for lili to accept another person in her family.
Strymn 1 year ago
@Strymn Even with all the counsellors and therapists in this time,,,a spoiled little bitch is a spoiled little bitch,,,I wouldn't call it normal,,there are many teens who adjust well to a stepmom or stepdad,,,,you're right about the people,,,it is the fault of the dad and the people around plus a spoiled child who is used to getting what they want,,,,,weren't the clergy like counsellors of a sort?
ealaara 1 year ago
@ealaara mmm not really, i think priests might've been close but still not all that helpful. i still think it was unfair of people around her to praise her so and were comparing her too much, but yeah a spoiled brat is responsible for her own actions.
Strymn 1 year ago
Sigourney Weaver is an insanely good actress. Jealous much?
Izzibelle1993 1 year ago
I find Claudia, while sympathetic, a villain. Her motivations make more sense then most adaptations like Disney's which makes her all the more fascinating. Lili's dislike of her makes sense too, given that she's replacing her mother and even rubbing it in Lili's face that she's carrying the boy her father desires which makes Lili feel unwanted.
LilyWalker28 1 year ago
I feel sorry for Claudia. :(
TheRosha12 1 year ago 5
i think its just like any doughter who is jelouse with other women toward her father and she just wanted his attention for atleast a night and the step mom bein used to havin all the attention at the events with her beauty and her voice got mad when snow white took the attention not only of the people but of the father and when she noticed that snow white did it like a challenge... well thats what i think
0charely0 1 year ago
jealousy is wt spewed d loss of her child
butacup4real 1 year ago
The woman was wicked from the begining... her soul sold to her mirror.... to herself. Her need is to be the number one, granted no woman should bare to loose there child. She was a coveting woman from what others had, yet when Lilly wore her mothers dress, the stress and haunting of it all was to much. But as you see in the beginning, the Step mother was nice indeed, but as innocent child eyes are always able to see, she new her step mothers kindness was a false perception.
MyLovingAngel 1 year ago 39
@MyLovingAngel
Don't assume that just because she's the stepmother she has to be evil. That's hardly fair.
"innocent child eyes are always able to see"? Children are the least capable of telling good from bad because they're gullible. Innocence simply implies that they easily corrupted and manipulated. Children perceive others in a way that is purely based on superficial appearances, it's hard for them to tell when they're being lied to.
Lilli is just being a spoiled, selfish brat.
00xque00 1 year ago 7
@00xque00 I doubt it. Kids are my profession and as I know, they have a true sight of people most miss as adults. Small lies are easy to miss.... but when a child hears a lot of small lies, the big picture is clear. Yea, Lilly is a brat I don't argue that... but that stepmother is evil and is willing to kill as many innocent as she likes to get what she wants. She is not evil because she is a stepmom, not hardly she is evil because she is a sociopath. She's evil by choice.
MyLovingAngel 1 year ago
@MyLovingAngel The mother didn't turn evil until she lost her child. Before that she seemed a perfectly normal person.A little bit jealous like all women tend to be but HARDLY a sociopath and not "evil". She was GENUINELY nice to Lilli!
I do agree that in the "disney version" of this story the stepmother is a complete psychopath from the beginning, but in this movie the story is set so that viewers can understand and sympathise with the mother's side of the story.
00xque00 1 year ago 4
@00xque00 Wait i meant sympathise but not AGREE. I read over that and it sounded like i was saying "killing is good" >_<
She becomes willing to kill innocent people AFTER her early labor and losing her long awaited child. I mean, 9 years is a very long time. To lose it after that would be understandably devastating.
My first comment was based on psychology, not experience with children. And most people can see the big picture after lots of small lies, not just children. What do you mean by that?
00xque00 1 year ago
@00xque00 From the moment Lilli saw her she could tell that her Step Mom was strange. But after seeing her mirror murdered a maid, Lilli could tell her stepmom wasn't all there. I do agree with you though that she was not fully demonic until her child was lost. That is a very good point. But from that moment you agree she was evil. I mean people can be lead astray even when they see the bad.... but when a child sees the bad, the lies, they are harder to get to retrust. thats all i mean.
MyLovingAngel 1 year ago
@00xque00 I'm not saying she was evil before her loss, I am saying she was clearly not in the right mind set. She was kind to little Lilli only to buy her love and Lilli saw right through it.
MyLovingAngel 1 year ago
@MyLovingAngel
Actually, I'm inclined to disagree with you. While the stepmother certainly sold her soul to the mirror, both for power and eternal beauty, I don't believe that she was evil in the beginning. She only wanted what any woman of that time would wish for: a home, family, flesh born from hers in the form of a child, and the love of her husband. She tried to be kind to Lilly, but as time went on, and the child grew more beautiful, her insecurities grew. So she in turned became evil
Lunara13 8 months ago 2
@Lunara13 True, and let's face it, the way that Lilly treated her so badly and disrespectfully helped a lot in her becoming evil.
valericool 6 months ago 2
damn snow white is a bitch in the movie lol!
KidAzin 1 year ago
@KidAzin
I think Snow White was just trying to remind her stepmom that she wasn't little anymore, because her stepmom knew her when she was little and still saw her as that little girl. All parents have a hard time noticing when their kids get older.
Bashirgirl1 1 year ago
I cant help but feel sorry for that poor woman losing her baby.
annie57g 1 year ago 2
5:11 aww :(
urnext2 1 year ago
snow white was a bitch!
urnext2 1 year ago 2
@urnext2 totally.
gogoutube 1 year ago
I feel kinda sorry for the step-mother it must be very hard to lose a baby u have been waiting so long for.
annie57g 1 year ago
she is also angry because she cannot have a child anymore even though she really wants one of her own instead of lilli cause she's not her daughter
iluvsadsong 1 year ago 4
the stepmom not only was jealous of Lilli not wearing her gown,but also she reminded her father about her late mother and the stepmom knew he still loved her even though she's his current wife
iluvsadsong 1 year ago 3
maybe as people say the stepmom wast a bitch....at first...but she was a witch lmao....seriously if ou pay attention when she look at lilly she gives her this evil type eye smile thing :) so ya she wa kinda evil inside i think
kelseyhm 1 year ago 3
Her stepmother is a witch.
ronssexybikerbae 1 year ago 2
i randomly want Lilli to make out with that
Peter dude...
iamwerido 1 year ago
what does she have agains't the maid's hair..
blacklight019 1 year ago 2
dude, I don't understand why she's upset at around 9:20 when she's looking at herself in the mirror, I mean, she needs to understand that she just gave birth! no one looks put together or glamorous after giving birth! And why didn't the father go and comfort her after hearing that she had a miscarriage? Doesn't he care about her? WHY was she left ALONE in that state? [sigh] feel kinda bad for the stepmom :/
h0lyd4bi3n 1 year ago
@h0lyd4bi3n This is supposed to be like back in the day, women were simply companions and child-bearers, that's it. Also, unlike now, and it being a "team effort", it wasn't like that then. Times change, though, and yeah, I can imagine the step mother going INSANE and HATING her step daughter. She lost her baby, whom was cast into the fire all uncaring like, and not to mention Lily treats her like shit. <_< I'd want her to "go away", too. D:
Peachiko 1 year ago 2
The stepmom was a witch duh!!
sapphiregem1981 1 year ago
The stepmom was a witch duh!
sapphiregem1981 1 year ago
She doesnt look that bad after going through all that with the baby being still born. :/
prettygunneryuna 1 year ago
@prettygunneryuna Agree..she is still beautiful :/
Verrie77 1 year ago
dude the stepmom needs to chill
WickedFan054 1 year ago 4
she blames lilly for the death i think, so thats why she goes buzurkkkk
libbyp88 1 year ago 3
Does anybody knows what's the music at 05:16 ?
Mr27221 1 year ago
such a brutal movie
USA1977 1 year ago
who is Peter?
anisete46 1 year ago
What's the occasion?
soulchild180 1 year ago
Lily is such a cow. Isn't the stepmom trying to be nice?
miriorodergo 1 year ago 4
oh yea way to go with the fire..lol poor baby..
Xgothicdollyxx 1 year ago
Poor baby indeed, but that's probably what happened to the bodies of stubborn babies. It was believed back then that stubborn babies didn't have souls and thus couldn't be buried in a grave
Lionstar16 1 year ago 2
yea, the death of a child would rise red flags and most would think it was the work of the devil or that the mother had a covenant with the devil. which is why they would burn the still born.
Xgothicdollyxx 1 year ago 2
hahahha the reason the stepmother wanted her to wear tht boring dress was so lily wouldnt look as good as the stepmom
StayOutDaWay 1 year ago 4
i think lily is kind of a brat
preciosanna 1 year ago 2
@preciosanna yeah...she's spoiled
Astrathiul 1 year ago
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janavalleyl 1 year ago
at 5:18 the stepmother looked like she wanted to walk over to lilly & strangle her!LOL!
bwoww 2 years ago 2
@bwoww I know. All throughout her marriage,the ghost of Lilliana(Lilli's Mom) has been "haunting" her. With Lilli showing up and taking the attention away from her,Claudia looked like she realized she lost.
vodkagal28 2 years ago 4
I love segodney weaver as the evil queen she plays it so well
JohannaGotTalent41 2 years ago 2
That stepmother has serious issues. Does she HAVE to be the center of attention at all times?
honeygreentea17 2 years ago 14
seriously!if i had a stepmother like her now i would punch her in the face!LOL!
bwoww 2 years ago
"She will never bear a child." What, after giving birth, would mess up your ability to have a baby?
EmmettCullen4pres 2 years ago
@EmmettCullen4pres
In that time, quite a lot.
FantasmaLuna 2 years ago
No, I meant, what exactly is it that messes up your abilty to get pregnant after giving birth?
EmmettCullen4pres 2 years ago
lol 1:35 when he's like "Ladies, will you excuse me" was their way of saying "Awkward..." lol
GothAngelRocks 2 years ago 8
5:16 "you show-stealing bitch....."
SwinkyMcGee 2 years ago 3
survivor, you said "to the early 17th century but every painting of noble women I see from 1600-1800 is corsets, cinchers and tits, tits, tits
Casicko 2 years ago 2
My apologies...sorry about that!
My fault!
83survivor 2 years ago
Now, Claudia's "party dress" would have been considered indecent around this time. Woman did not exposed cleavange back in the 10th-early 17th Century and it was considered scandaleous to that. Back then, woman had to cover up their breasts with every intention to appear modest and lady-like. Usually, a woman who shows her cleavage would have been considered a whore and nothing more.
83survivor 2 years ago 2
how horrible!
Jonaries 2 years ago
What year is the timeline of this movie suppose to be? 14th? 15th Century? It doesn't give a specific timeline, so I presume it is around the Black Plague era.
83survivor 2 years ago 2
Lilli is incredibly irritating. "I'm not a girl anymore!!!" Right, you're a whiny adolescent.
thePlagueCat 2 years ago 34
@thePlagueCat Seriously...she didnt even give her Stepmom a chance. Maybe if she did, Claudia wouldn't have been jealous of her.
wickedfeylady 1 year ago
@thePlagueCat lol good one
VampireKittyPrincess 1 year ago
Is Sigourney Weaver singing? She has a nice voice
EnviedCure776 2 years ago
look no ones hot after giving birth get over it
VolentiNilDifficil 2 years ago 16
My dad wanted to name me Claudia when I was born....
My mom said no
funsized717 2 years ago 7
haha good for you
WhatLocoCoco 2 years ago
It's sick that the stepmother is jalous because Friederick thinks that his OWN daugther is beatiful and looks like her mother! It would be wierd if he react on a diffrient way wouldn't it?
lsw2941 2 years ago 9
wow, lilys bloke has a gnarly ginger wig on the go!! *snorts laughing*
claireyfairyx 2 years ago 6
Wow, a birthing chair in a fairy tale. I wonder if they really had such things back then.
mmedefarge 2 years ago 6
Yes, they did. And, if I'm not wrong, they still do today.
EmmettCullen4pres 2 years ago
Yes, I see that it was used during the Renaissance but became out of favor when doctors replaced mid-wives. It didn't come back into fashion again until the latter part of the 20th century.
mmedefarge 2 years ago
About Claudia vs Lilly: i think they have good and bad characteristics because a person is always mixed...nobody is purely good or bad (normally)they are even at the beginning...the movie shows the evolution:stepmother becoming an obsessed, raving lunatic, while Lilly becomes a woman, who can make the difference between good and bad...she becomes a better person in the end. stronger.those guys called her princess just because she was a rich man's daughter. Irony. That is what i think...
bathoryeszter 2 years ago 7
@bathoryeszter Only because im studying fairytales at the moment, i feel i should respond - fairytale characters are meant to be two dimensional to better serve their purpose as being symbolic representations of our inner emotions. The purpose of fairytales is to give our subconscious a deeper understanding of anxieties and how to deal with them.
rowanrockhopper2 1 year ago
@bathoryeszter (cont.)Films such as these which portay the heroine as being inconsiderate of others raises our antipathy for them, whereas its the stepmother that raises our sympathy. It doesn't have the same subliminal impact on us. But then, fairytales werent told for the cinema, where 3 dimensional characters are needed for believabilty.
rowanrockhopper2 1 year ago
wow lilly is kind of a ...well...bitch.
just saying.
kickinchicky 2 years ago
i know right
like... okay yeah her mom becomes a freaky witch
but she was just being all nice to her in the beginning
giving her stuff, acting nicely
and lily would just bitch. haha
WhatLocoCoco 2 years ago
well, hello? lily did watch claudia and that dude make out so her "bitchiness" is more out of distrust than actual dislike.
valluco23 1 year ago
Besides the point that if you look at her closely, Claudia seems to thrive the best when she has everyone's attention on her. That's why she's always got to be the most well-liked and it's why she's always trying to squash Lillian's beauty. She can't stand the competition.
Sesshomaruslover001 2 years ago 8
i think the reason the queen got so mad was becuase she lost her mind after waiting so long to have a child it died . becuase she went into labor early
i dont think that she actually hated lilly becuase it was obivous she was trying to be nice she even asked her why they fault but lilly still pushed it . i acutally feel really bad for the queen becuase it seemed like she was trying so hard an every thing she did went to crap . :(
dieannadior618 2 years ago 2
that vioce would scare the hell out of me!
audiefaye932 2 years ago 3
I actually feel bad for the stepmom...she wasn't a bitch at first.
MidnightSparkles17 2 years ago 35
I don't really feel bad for the queen as some seem to. She is jealous not only of the kings past away wife, but also clearly of Lilly herself. If you go back to part 2 you see her showing off infront of the kings small daughter as they make out and here she is angry at him being concerned about Lilly. She is extremely possesive and vindicitiv and she blames the girl, even if Lillys anger may have been unjustified at the very first sight, for everything that goes wrong for her.
trustno1 2 years ago 3