The Link Between Alqeda and Iraq Revealed!

[llriv]

Hey you tool. Those drivers are not soldiers, they are federal contractors. What a douche.

[candor1990]

The Iraq civilians are fighting of there invaders just like the colonist fought off the Red coats,

[candor1990]

The US political leaders be the same as the ones whom sent there men to fight for a cause not needed to be.

we go into a nation for no reason but our selfish acts and devious thoughts for what?, we killed over 1.3 million civilians on the course of this pointless road, for what?.

Saddam is dead, Iraqi freedom was bogius, they didnt have anything to do with 9/11, were not fighting for our freedoms, there werent any WMDs...........

so the question is why are we still there?

[TheJacolyte]

Statism is the worst form of terrorism.

[chromeinox]

I tell u what values US has: using overwhellming force agaisnt the weeker! And that sums it up!!!

(Forgive my english).

[ariakokoschka]

I understand this guy's frustration but I guess he doesn't think about the fact that if he stops and chases after bunch of kids, at the back ally Mr. I'll-fuck-in-the-ass may be waiting for him. So you might as well just drive away in your safe car...

[FaoleannOBradaigh]

bush only wants what's good for america (and his oil business). god bless america.

[AMERSIDD]

die slow u motherfuckers!!!!powell,bush, rice and dick cheney head

[awd4g63tsi]

while I think the video is a great one, and really shows what our 'leadership' is made of...I don't think the soldier was 'bitter' he couldn't use force. I'm not sure you would be thinking rationally if you were in a situatin you didn't want to be in, and people are constantly trying to kill you. I'll bet you're brain would be a little 'fried' too. Many of these soldiers don't want to be over there as much as we don't want them there. Other than that-awesome video

[originalnip]

He said they weren't authorized to use force, and no point did he say he wanted to shoot the kids. Watch the videos you post.

You honestly believe that Saddam at no point funded terrorists? He praised the attacks on the towers, he asked for an ass kicking.

Was the war justified in the end. Probably not. But they do have to finish what they started.

[Thunderf00t]

He wanted them to authorize force, that just aint right!

Secondly saddam had no links to alqeda or international terrorism, any more than the US did. (remember all the hijackers were trained in US flight schools and US gov. accrdited etc etc)

[sentry99]

Saddam payed of palestinian suicide bombers. Those are terrorists. While not al queda, still terrorists.

[Thunderf00t]

I think u will find saddam gave financial relief to the families of suicide bombers. Seeing as the israelies have a policy of bulldozing the homes of suicide bombers (a pretty low form of collective punishment) I really wouldnt consider giving the now homeless family some money 'sponsering terrorism'. This would be like sayin sending aid to war refugees is sponsering one side or the other. Its a warped view at best.

[sentry99]

It's warped to think that knowing your family will be financially taken care of if you blow your self up is not a good incentive. You have Imams telling you god wants you to and Saddam telling you he will take care of your family...hmmmm?

[Thunderf00t]

basically u r advocating collective punishment sentry. Its like if u r found guilty of speeding then someone has the right to take your mothers TV. -This is a mockery of justice. Your idea that someone then compensating your mom for her TV constitutes 'endorsing speeding' is just bull.

[Thunderf00t]

similar to the comment above, if this is the bar for 'sponsoring terrorism' then everyone is guilty (not a very useful definition of sponsoring terrorism), the 911 terrorist were trained by the US in US flight schools, the london bombers were 'sponsered' by the British rail service that took them down to london.

[sentry99]

Having flight schools and rail service is nothing like what I mentioned and you trying to twist is ridiculous.

[Thunderf00t]

No its exactly the same. The only difference u feel happy saying saddam sponsered terrorism, but are unwilling to apply those standards to yourself.

And just so u know, collective punishment of the form of bulldozing a family home is the sort of thing the mafia would do. U consider righting a wrong as supporting terrorism. Like us say, "u trying to twist is ridiculous".

[sentry99]

It's exactly the same. You are fucking kidding yourself. You are so far removed from logical thought it is unbelievable. Flight schools and mass transit is equal to paying suicide bombers?? There is no hope for you.

[Thunderf00t]

Apart from thats not what I said, and its sad the only way u can make o cohesive argument is to misrepresent my comments.

It really is very simple sentry.

Suicide bombing is wrong, but so is knocking down the house in which he live and making a load of people homeless. Giving who have been made homeless by a mafia form of collective punishment is not an act of supporting terrorism, its an act of charity.

[Thunderf00t]

BUT TO MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR. SADDAM GAVE NO MONEY TO SUICIDE BOMBERS.

"Flight schools and mass transit is equal to paying suicide bombers??"

U r just plain wrong. Saddam gave NO money to suicide bombers. Its like saying bush killed diana, it might make your guilty conscience feel better, but its simply not true.

[sentry99]

the 911 terrorist were trained by the US in US flight schools, the london bombers were 'sponsered' by the British rail service that took them down to london....THAT is what you said. Don't back peddle. Just admit you are wrong. You know damn well Saddam gave money to suicide bombers. You can fool others but you can't fool yourself. You know you are a liar. Guess you'd better ask Allah to forgive you for that.

[Thunderf00t]

O right, anyone who disagrees with u is a muslim. What a profoundly un-american thing to say.

However yes, by your definition, without the US flight school etc, the 911 attacks couldnt have happened. Thats defined in the anti-terrorist legislation as providing material support to terrorist. Its the law.

However I say again, SADDAM GAVE NO MONEY TO SUICIDE BOMBERS AND HE HAD NO WMDs. These are established facts.

[sentry99]

No WMDs I can agree with. HE DID PAY MONEY TO THE FAMILIES OF SUICIDE BOMBERS. "I think u will find saddam gave financial relief to the families of suicide bombers" That is FACT from you post above. YOURS. Providing material support to terrorists IS against the law. Running a legitimate flight school or mass transit system that is used by terrorists IS NOT. To what grade level must I break this down for you to understand??

[Thunderf00t]

So we agree no wmd.

Can we also agree that giving money that a family is NOT responsible for crimes of a suicide bomber, in the same way the relatives of a murderer are not responsible for him?

Under these circumstances knocking down house a suicide bomber lived in is collective punishment (immoral), and giving compensation to those subject to collective punishment is NOT sponsering terrorism, but a moral act of charity.

[sentry99]

NOT sponsering terrorism, but a moral act of charity...then by the same token our aid to Israel is a "moral act of charity". You think Saddam gave money to Palestinians to compensate them for their homes??? NO NO NO...he did it to promote it. Saddam and the rest of the Arab world, only use Palestinians as cannon fodder for their anti-semetic causes.

[Thunderf00t]

Well I think thats almost a point of consensus, he did not give money to people to perform suicide bombings and in this sense he gave NO support to terrorists. Nor do I beleive that the money he gave to the families was some token of good will, it was a political gesture. As for israel and palistine, it amazed me how something smaller than new jersey can cause so many problems.

[tamrajkilvish]

Giving money to families of suicide bombers , there are 2 ways to look at it.

1) An act of charity for a family that has lost a member (maybe leaving behind only dependents).

2) But what if an extremist who gears up young men to go and die puts it this way - Go die for jihad , your families will be well taken care of.

So for young man , disillusioned by the promise of heaven, would'nt an assurance of financial reward for the family he leaves behind , act as further incentive?

[Thunderf00t]

It breaks down like this.

1) suicide bombing - WRONG

2) bulldozing a house where he lived making people homelss -WRONG

3) Giving money to those who lost their home.

-Thats debatable, but it certainly isnt sponsering terrorism. Change the names of the organisations involved and Im sure u would advocate it.

[sentry99]

Well the problem is both parties have been in the area since god knows when. Jews and Palestinians have co-habitated for centuries. Archeology proves this. But both have relgious texts telling them it's theirs. STILL, I would not advocate rewarding the families of criminals, nor do I advocate their punishment. However, if you KNOW your family will be taken care of if you die, does that not make the choice a bit easier?

[Thunderf00t]

the irony of the middle east is that the christians, jews n muslims basically all beleive in the same god (All beleive in jesus in one shape or form, they only differ on his status as prophet or god).

I know the koran has many a bloodthirst moment, but then again it cant be much worse than exodus or deuteronomy.

[sentry99]

They all do share a great many stories of the old testament.

[tat2chance]

How dare you...the gov't has enough to worry bout than to have someone showing video of them contradicting themselves. You are emboldening those that can remember stuff. The american people only need to know whats told to them by most recent press conference. Dont you dare remind them that Osama is still free..jus be quiet..they'll forget about it soon..jus show Anna Nicole Smith stories for 3 weeks..phew that was close.

[Thunderf00t]

LOL, vn tat!

Need to throw some dictator slogans in there too like "it is unpatriotic not to support your president", did wonders for patriotism in WW2 germany and post ww2 russia!

Also some false dichotomies like you are either with us or against us, you are either 'stay the course' or 'cut and run' anyone who says there are more than two options is a commie!