@Polored1066 Mutas only receive half damage from goliaths so that each hit was only doing 10 and plus 2+ per upgrade instead of four, so yes goliaths are good against air but they are certainly not hard counters
to SCwarkos. Hey moron if he had time for hive tech I think he would've. You dont understand this game and its timing variables, if he skipped mutas he woulda got timing rushed by golies anyway by boxer. The answer is Hydras. Shoulda spent all that money on hydras and carapace instead of mutas and air armor. Then if boxer gets tanks, doesnt matter, wouldve given him enough time to get to hive for the dark swarm and lurkers/cracklings. You cant just rush to hive tech though or youll get owned
Again, why didnt Savior make guardians instead of wasting numerous mutas?
One pack of controlled guards was able to shred any count of goliaths, because robots in rough terrain can't get in range simultaneously. Savior was simply confused by goliaths. He has enough time to release countermeasure until first suicidal attack, but he didn't. Sad but true.
He does not have enough time to go for Guardian, at the same time Savior make 1 Guardian, Boxer could make 2-3 Goliah. Morev over, Boxer continuously attack and the only thing he has on hand is Mutask, non-upgrade Zergling is just too weak.
Goliaths and guardians have the same range. So if Savior did decide to go guardians, Boxer could move his goliaths under them, as goliaths move faster and kill them. Guardians are weak against mass goliath.
If he did get clumped guardians, Boxer would simply get science vessels with irradiate to destroy them.
I agree with you that Savior should have switched tech after he saw massed goliaths and heavy turret cover, perhaps to defiler/ling. Mutas get destroyed by goliaths.
thats what ive been thinking, theyre definetly gona have to patch them like that, as in my opinion i already think they are a little bit strong. i mean u can make 3 at once, they are the cheapest of the equivalents, (wriaths, scouts) and WHATS WITH SCOUTS!?! THEY FREAKING SUCK! they cost SO much but they do NO damage on ground and u already have sairs for anti air!! plus pretty much every zerg strategy involves getting quick mutas while scouts or wraiths are much more uncommon
and there is so much u have to do to stop them if ur a terran or protoss. you have to make sure u have at least 2 turrets in each space so they are always getting shot at, so it will end up costing u a whole lot of money just to stop the attack, let alone winning. and in a ZvZ they are always the same. its honestly just a race to get mutas and whoever gets them faster wins. and so many ppl brag about theyre "Muta Micro" pffft half of it isnt micro at all, ur supposed to take away the hurt one
not just move them in circles while getting shot at and firing every now and then/ muta micro is simple, focus fire, and if one gets too damaged move it away and bring it back, half the stuff some ppl are doing is literally moving back and forth getting shot at!
In my opinion, there are many VODs to choose from that are the best for BoxeR, and I think BoxeR vs jOyO was probably the best game, because he made the best comeback ever.
the only thing that ruins that logic is the fact savior has heavily done his funding into mutalisks and expected biological attacks which are in his favor. making defilers wouldnt be a problem for slayers boxer, he had starports expecting defilers to mass irradiate, which would further demolish the use of defilers and it would definitely counter mutalisk stack. slayers boxer uncommon counter totally threw the game out of proportion, he had it in the palm of his hands ever since the first goliath
Nice game, but i wonder.. how comes Savior just kept on making mutalisks even when he knew that he had an army of goliaths to fight? Also, why was there not any defiler? I guess its not a simple thing to play vs Boxer, but for that i saw, Savior just kept on making the worst units possible to fight them. I don't know but, why not turn them into guardians at least? or use zerglins with dark swarm? Anything but mutalisks.. Anyway, I'm sure he could've done much better than that.
Actually, mutalisks are the only unit that fights goliaths. Not sure why he didn't get defilers but meh. Because goliath's anti air is explosive type damage, and mutas are small, goliaths only do half of the damage against mutalisks. Guardians are large sized and slow.
Oh, well I didn't know that the guardians would've received more damage from the goliaths than the mutalisks but then again, does that mean that the extra damage that would be dealt to a guardian would be dealt to a mutalisk nearby instead? But anyway, the goliaths are meant to kill the air-units so i still doupt that it was the best units to chose for the situation.
Well, hydras and lings would be completely destroyed by the tanks and vultures that Boxer would counter with if they came out so those aren't options. Lurkers are out of the questions and ultralisks are destroyed quite a bit by tanks as well. Mutas are usually one of the few options. Maybe muta/hydra.
What VOD means?
thanks
6Bene 5 months ago
@6Bene fpvod means first person view of
badnewZZZZgosu 3 months ago
and best quality of this video
madafakkaa 6 months ago
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Polored1066 10 months ago
@Polored1066 Mutas only receive half damage from goliaths so that each hit was only doing 10 and plus 2+ per upgrade instead of four, so yes goliaths are good against air but they are certainly not hard counters
liok113411 10 months ago
@liok113411 i guess you are right, i just saw a vid about mass goliaths getting pwned by mass muta... sorry my bad
Polored1066 9 months ago
Goliaths hard counter mutas. Sums the game up. Hydraling woulve countered goliaths
philipthesupergreat 1 year ago
this was saviors all time low, he lost to boxer! LOL
TomValedro 1 year ago
game starts at 2:30
TheZittar 1 year ago
if he tossed a few tanks in there savior woulda died faster lol
jetsamjetsam 1 year ago
why don't the japanese play games?
efast00 1 year ago
Look at BoxeR's hand at the start 0.0 His future wife is dead meat haha xD
L0v3ism 1 year ago
16:56
Savior: Shit when are goliths so strong?
IcingKSW 2 years ago
goliaths only do 2/3 damage to mutalisks...
wowspare 2 years ago
1/2.
vlaknall 2 years ago
I get owned on Battleforge, imagine how I'd get owned on this.
MicrowavedHamster 2 years ago
to SCwarkos. Hey moron if he had time for hive tech I think he would've. You dont understand this game and its timing variables, if he skipped mutas he woulda got timing rushed by golies anyway by boxer. The answer is Hydras. Shoulda spent all that money on hydras and carapace instead of mutas and air armor. Then if boxer gets tanks, doesnt matter, wouldve given him enough time to get to hive for the dark swarm and lurkers/cracklings. You cant just rush to hive tech though or youll get owned
greenjack7922 2 years ago
boxer is 29? wow
dave997 2 years ago
Dark Swarm + Crac Lings = GG Goliaths.
SCWarkos 2 years ago
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Again, why didnt Savior make guardians instead of wasting numerous mutas?
One pack of controlled guards was able to shred any count of goliaths, because robots in rough terrain can't get in range simultaneously. Savior was simply confused by goliaths. He has enough time to release countermeasure until first suicidal attack, but he didn't. Sad but true.
impator 2 years ago
has mabye
sfgox10 2 years ago
He does not have enough time to go for Guardian, at the same time Savior make 1 Guardian, Boxer could make 2-3 Goliah. Morev over, Boxer continuously attack and the only thing he has on hand is Mutask, non-upgrade Zergling is just too weak.
aclock2 2 years ago
Goliaths and guardians have the same range. So if Savior did decide to go guardians, Boxer could move his goliaths under them, as goliaths move faster and kill them. Guardians are weak against mass goliath.
If he did get clumped guardians, Boxer would simply get science vessels with irradiate to destroy them.
I agree with you that Savior should have switched tech after he saw massed goliaths and heavy turret cover, perhaps to defiler/ling. Mutas get destroyed by goliaths.
cocacolamandan 2 years ago
@cocacolamandan no goliaths shoot further with upgrade
RSXlongrange 1 year ago
imagine mass mutas on sc2 wen u can select like 30 units
fuckmerimless69 2 years ago
thats what ive been thinking, theyre definetly gona have to patch them like that, as in my opinion i already think they are a little bit strong. i mean u can make 3 at once, they are the cheapest of the equivalents, (wriaths, scouts) and WHATS WITH SCOUTS!?! THEY FREAKING SUCK! they cost SO much but they do NO damage on ground and u already have sairs for anti air!! plus pretty much every zerg strategy involves getting quick mutas while scouts or wraiths are much more uncommon
Lucky466 2 years ago
and there is so much u have to do to stop them if ur a terran or protoss. you have to make sure u have at least 2 turrets in each space so they are always getting shot at, so it will end up costing u a whole lot of money just to stop the attack, let alone winning. and in a ZvZ they are always the same. its honestly just a race to get mutas and whoever gets them faster wins. and so many ppl brag about theyre "Muta Micro" pffft half of it isnt micro at all, ur supposed to take away the hurt one
Lucky466 2 years ago
not just move them in circles while getting shot at and firing every now and then/ muta micro is simple, focus fire, and if one gets too damaged move it away and bring it back, half the stuff some ppl are doing is literally moving back and forth getting shot at!
Lucky466 2 years ago
mybe just like the name states its for scouting purposes
joeykiller 2 years ago
Mah..... hysterical people...
STALKERX9 2 years ago
why didnt savior make guardians?
datzvietxnxmze13 2 years ago
because they would get raped and they need more time to be build...
daSenfgurke 2 years ago
waste gas.two guard may = 300/500 gas
= 3 mutas and 200 gas.
every 2 guards you get, you get lesser 3 mutas. Mutas more mobile too.
larryhoo 2 years ago 2
@larryhoo English?
ChristinaRebecca 1 year ago
I was thinking of the same thing. HE sticked with the less powerfull zerg unit against mass goliaths... he couldnt win!
Or if he wasnt gazheavy enough, he could have went hydras...
zito22zito22 2 years ago
don't take me wrong, but i don't see why this is the "Best VOD of Boxer"....
What is it with mass goliaths vs muta?
Maybe all that happiness in the fans where just because this was a semi-final or w/e.
thanks for the video though
GARiMPAS 2 years ago 2
Because goliaths only do half damage to mutalisk and are usually not that effective against them unless the player has very good micro control.
ConvexConcaveA7 2 years ago
yes but.... i maintain my opinion:) hehe
thanks
GARiMPAS 2 years ago
he already had armory and starports with addons.. valkyries with matrix would be safer
but i guess savior would stop making mutas then...
doso1234 2 years ago
In my opinion, there are many VODs to choose from that are the best for BoxeR, and I think BoxeR vs jOyO was probably the best game, because he made the best comeback ever.
legionairreDL 2 years ago
an entire match of about 19 mins and savior didn make hiv?He wants to fight a terran's tech with no hiv?poor match done by savior.
NTL808 2 years ago
Seriously. All he needed was a little HIV, and Boxer would have been swimming in AIDS. If only savior had known.
Oh..you meant Hive. My bad.
devious12 2 years ago 14
lol
Methos93 2 years ago
rofl
hooh3923 2 years ago
I love this man
Lk257 2 years ago
Sounds like The killers are playing in the background heh.
raymanlegy 3 years ago
Countering goliaths just takes lots of plauge + pretty much any unit haha
ElliottSmiles 3 years ago
or just swarm lings?
amsd1231 3 years ago
im pretty sure Boxer would just run from the lings. Or Irradidate.
raymanlegy 3 years ago
the only thing that ruins that logic is the fact savior has heavily done his funding into mutalisks and expected biological attacks which are in his favor. making defilers wouldnt be a problem for slayers boxer, he had starports expecting defilers to mass irradiate, which would further demolish the use of defilers and it would definitely counter mutalisk stack. slayers boxer uncommon counter totally threw the game out of proportion, he had it in the palm of his hands ever since the first goliath
TheSinfulChild 3 years ago
he should have switched over to hydras and ultra
kezza10mail 3 years ago
i don't see why you named this VOD as "Best VOD of Boxer"...
Golias owned mutas, no big deal, bad game by sAviOr..
If you want a very good BoxeR game, watch this -> /watch?v=M-9cR5HhH0Y and watch this -> /watch?v=Vx2mV-c2gCM ....
gg though
GARiMPAS 3 years ago
Oh man i remember this map, first time i started liking savior xD sooo many mutas
rl0u8888 3 years ago
l'arc en ciel in the beginning
nyasumeowth 3 years ago
plagyuuuu
debit256 3 years ago
it might have worked for savior to mass lings mutas but thats just what i think
halorulez98 3 years ago
wonder y this was named the best vod of boxer. perhaps more recent ones?
lightswarm124 3 years ago
Nice game, but i wonder.. how comes Savior just kept on making mutalisks even when he knew that he had an army of goliaths to fight? Also, why was there not any defiler? I guess its not a simple thing to play vs Boxer, but for that i saw, Savior just kept on making the worst units possible to fight them. I don't know but, why not turn them into guardians at least? or use zerglins with dark swarm? Anything but mutalisks.. Anyway, I'm sure he could've done much better than that.
DanyF02 3 years ago 2
Actually, mutalisks are the only unit that fights goliaths. Not sure why he didn't get defilers but meh. Because goliath's anti air is explosive type damage, and mutas are small, goliaths only do half of the damage against mutalisks. Guardians are large sized and slow.
wormspwn 3 years ago
Oh, well I didn't know that the guardians would've received more damage from the goliaths than the mutalisks but then again, does that mean that the extra damage that would be dealt to a guardian would be dealt to a mutalisk nearby instead? But anyway, the goliaths are meant to kill the air-units so i still doupt that it was the best units to chose for the situation.
DanyF02 3 years ago
Well, hydras and lings would be completely destroyed by the tanks and vultures that Boxer would counter with if they came out so those aren't options. Lurkers are out of the questions and ultralisks are destroyed quite a bit by tanks as well. Mutas are usually one of the few options. Maybe muta/hydra.
wormspwn 3 years ago
I think its was micro too.
very imba micro xD
rookus 3 years ago
Boxer amazing skills
mazemaster225 3 years ago 5
Great Game, Boxer's macro skills really showed up here. Impressive amounts of upgraded Goliaths and they just kept coming.
jasumirp 3 years ago 2
Pro Goliath Micro!
TerranStacraft 3 years ago 2
Hahaha, Airforce Salute, solid.
Geeeeoff 3 years ago 2
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Rectiony3 3 years ago
Goliath+upgrade own mutaling...
estapeluo 3 years ago 2
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renateitor 3 years ago
Hey MickyToss - Vod with subtitles!
Aaaaawsome! =)
YTsr 3 years ago 3