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  • What VOD means?

    thanks

  • @6Bene fpvod means first person view of

  • and best quality of this video

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  • @Polored1066 Mutas only receive half damage from goliaths so that each hit was only doing 10 and plus 2+ per upgrade instead of four, so yes goliaths are good against air but they are certainly not hard counters

  • @liok113411 i guess you are right, i just saw a vid about mass goliaths getting pwned by mass muta... sorry my bad

  • Goliaths hard counter mutas. Sums the game up. Hydraling woulve countered goliaths

  • this was saviors all time low, he lost to boxer! LOL

  • game starts at 2:30

  • if he tossed a few tanks in there savior woulda died faster lol

  • why don't the japanese play games?

  • Look at BoxeR's hand at the start 0.0 His future wife is dead meat haha xD

  • 16:56

    Savior: Shit when are goliths so strong?

  • goliaths only do 2/3 damage to mutalisks...

  • 1/2.

  • I get owned on Battleforge, imagine how I'd get owned on this.

  • to SCwarkos. Hey moron if he had time for hive tech I think he would've. You dont understand this game and its timing variables, if he skipped mutas he woulda got timing rushed by golies anyway by boxer. The answer is Hydras. Shoulda spent all that money on hydras and carapace instead of mutas and air armor. Then if boxer gets tanks, doesnt matter, wouldve given him enough time to get to hive for the dark swarm and lurkers/cracklings. You cant just rush to hive tech though or youll get owned

  • boxer is 29? wow

  • Dark Swarm + Crac Lings = GG Goliaths.

  • has mabye

  • He does not have enough time to go for Guardian, at the same time Savior make 1 Guardian, Boxer could make 2-3 Goliah. Morev over, Boxer continuously attack and the only thing he has on hand is Mutask, non-upgrade Zergling is just too weak.

  • Goliaths and guardians have the same range. So if Savior did decide to go guardians, Boxer could move his goliaths under them, as goliaths move faster and kill them. Guardians are weak against mass goliath.

    If he did get clumped guardians, Boxer would simply get science vessels with irradiate to destroy them.

    I agree with you that Savior should have switched tech after he saw massed goliaths and heavy turret cover, perhaps to defiler/ling. Mutas get destroyed by goliaths.

  • @cocacolamandan no goliaths shoot further with upgrade

  • imagine mass mutas on sc2 wen u can select like 30 units

  • thats what ive been thinking, theyre definetly gona have to patch them like that, as in my opinion i already think they are a little bit strong. i mean u can make 3 at once, they are the cheapest of the equivalents, (wriaths, scouts) and WHATS WITH SCOUTS!?! THEY FREAKING SUCK! they cost SO much but they do NO damage on ground and u already have sairs for anti air!! plus pretty much every zerg strategy involves getting quick mutas while scouts or wraiths are much more uncommon

  • and there is so much u have to do to stop them if ur a terran or protoss. you have to make sure u have at least 2 turrets in each space so they are always getting shot at, so it will end up costing u a whole lot of money just to stop the attack, let alone winning. and in a ZvZ they are always the same. its honestly just a race to get mutas and whoever gets them faster wins. and so many ppl brag about theyre "Muta Micro" pffft half of it isnt micro at all, ur supposed to take away the hurt one

  • not just move them in circles while getting shot at and firing every now and then/ muta micro is simple, focus fire, and if one gets too damaged move it away and bring it back, half the stuff some ppl are doing is literally moving back and forth getting shot at!

  • mybe just like the name states its for scouting purposes

  • Mah..... hysterical people...

  • why didnt savior make guardians?

  • because they would get raped and they need more time to be build...

  • waste gas.two guard may = 300/500 gas

    = 3 mutas and 200 gas.

    every 2 guards you get, you get lesser 3 mutas. Mutas more mobile too.

  • @larryhoo English?

    

  • I was thinking of the same thing. HE sticked with the less powerfull zerg unit against mass goliaths... he couldnt win!

    Or if he wasnt gazheavy enough, he could have went hydras...

  • don't take me wrong, but i don't see why this is the "Best VOD of Boxer"....

    What is it with mass goliaths vs muta?

    Maybe all that happiness in the fans where just because this was a semi-final or w/e.

    thanks for the video though

  • Because goliaths only do half damage to mutalisk and are usually not that effective against them unless the player has very good micro control.

  • yes but.... i maintain my opinion:) hehe

    thanks

  • he already had armory and starports with addons.. valkyries with matrix would be safer

    but i guess savior would stop making mutas then...

  • In my opinion, there are many VODs to choose from that are the best for BoxeR, and I think BoxeR vs jOyO was probably the best game, because he made the best comeback ever.

  • an entire match of about 19 mins and savior didn make hiv?He wants to fight a terran's tech with no hiv?poor match done by savior.

  • Seriously. All he needed was a little HIV, and Boxer would have been swimming in AIDS. If only savior had known.

    Oh..you meant Hive. My bad.

  • lol

  • rofl

  • I love this man

  • Sounds like The killers are playing in the background heh.

  • Countering goliaths just takes lots of plauge + pretty much any unit haha

  • or just swarm lings?

  • im pretty sure Boxer would just run from the lings. Or Irradidate.

  • the only thing that ruins that logic is the fact savior has heavily done his funding into mutalisks and expected biological attacks which are in his favor. making defilers wouldnt be a problem for slayers boxer, he had starports expecting defilers to mass irradiate, which would further demolish the use of defilers and it would definitely counter mutalisk stack. slayers boxer uncommon counter totally threw the game out of proportion, he had it in the palm of his hands ever since the first goliath

  • he should have switched over to hydras and ultra

  • i don't see why you named this VOD as "Best VOD of Boxer"...

    Golias owned mutas, no big deal, bad game by sAviOr..

    If you want a very good BoxeR game, watch this -> /watch?v=M-9cR5HhH0Y and watch this -> /watch?v=Vx2mV-c2gCM ....

    gg though

  • Oh man i remember this map, first time i started liking savior xD sooo many mutas

  • l'arc en ciel in the beginning

  • plagyuuuu

  • it might have worked for savior to mass lings mutas but thats just what i think

  • wonder y this was named the best vod of boxer. perhaps more recent ones?

  • Nice game, but i wonder.. how comes Savior just kept on making mutalisks even when he knew that he had an army of goliaths to fight? Also, why was there not any defiler? I guess its not a simple thing to play vs Boxer, but for that i saw, Savior just kept on making the worst units possible to fight them. I don't know but, why not turn them into guardians at least? or use zerglins with dark swarm? Anything but mutalisks.. Anyway, I'm sure he could've done much better than that.

  • Actually, mutalisks are the only unit that fights goliaths. Not sure why he didn't get defilers but meh. Because goliath's anti air is explosive type damage, and mutas are small, goliaths only do half of the damage against mutalisks. Guardians are large sized and slow.

  • Oh, well I didn't know that the guardians would've received more damage from the goliaths than the mutalisks but then again, does that mean that the extra damage that would be dealt to a guardian would be dealt to a mutalisk nearby instead? But anyway, the goliaths are meant to kill the air-units so i still doupt that it was the best units to chose for the situation.

  • Well, hydras and lings would be completely destroyed by the tanks and vultures that Boxer would counter with if they came out so those aren't options. Lurkers are out of the questions and ultralisks are destroyed quite a bit by tanks as well. Mutas are usually one of the few options. Maybe muta/hydra.

  • I think its was micro too.

    very imba micro xD

  • Boxer amazing skills

  • Great Game, Boxer's macro skills really showed up here. Impressive amounts of upgraded Goliaths and they just kept coming.

  • Pro Goliath Micro!

  • Hahaha, Airforce Salute, solid.

  • Goliath+upgrade own mutaling...

  • ge

    geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • Hey MickyToss - Vod with subtitles!

    Aaaaawsome! =)

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