Vivaldi-Concerto grosso in d-minor, Op. 3 No. 11 RV 565

[BMG4ME]

I thought it was just me out of tune as I was playing along until I saw the comments! I have an arrangement for clarinet, flute and bassoon, I play clarinet. In the version I have, there is a whole chunk missing (unless it's extra in this recording)! It does sound a little fast, I know I can;'t play this fast on my clarinet!

[ezio1da2firenze3]

my favourite is the largo, i love this piece and am learning it at the moment. However, i thought that the Baroque period called for sharper, more distinctive playing (sort of like an accent) due to the large churches these pieces were performed in

[vladycrew]

feel like a sir... 

[YeeJian1]

I'm playing the piece with my string quartet. Is there suppose to be a harpsichord accompaniment with the cello solo in the first movement?

[DRob3Music]

It is D minor, but it sounds a half-step lower. In the Baroque Period the pitches were one half-step lower. I learned this when I took a youth orchestra to Boston's Handel & Haydn Society. The tour guide told us that the pitches were one-half step back then and for a piece to be performed authentically, the stringed instruments were tuned one-half step down (harpsichord, too) and the performers played on instruments from that period.

[auripit]

without harpsichord it would sound better

[thehobedes]

adoro musicas e compositores barrocos...linddooooo

[natashaclapp93]

I was Violin soloist for this Piece :D I played it like a beast :P LOVE THIS SONG!!!

[muulka]

@natashaclapp93 What song? I hear no voices?

[Klarinenenka]

Kwásný moc hezunký



[BaboonBassoon]

i have actually met simon standage :P the performer - he is epic

[BaboonBassoon]

This is a concerto grosso, however you would more commonly name it as conerto for 2 violins and cello because that is what is involved via solo performances

[IndianTerp]

PERFECT tempo! The section between 1:48 and 2:08 is pretty much an auditory orgasm.

[petrisz]

This is beautifuly played. Nice interpretation indeed. Nevertheless I would like it a bit slower.

[hezixiao]

Hi animeviolalord! Thanks for sharing! Great recording! I think we should all listen to authentic Baroque music! Early music performed in a modern way just doesn't have that "taste".

[cellokitty19]

It's very nice...however, if I could beg some advice...?

I'm playing this for an audition piece (different arrangement, just a bit) and my teacher is telling me that the the beginning should be quite slow (becuase of the magestic marking) but all the recordings I've heard (including one from the group I'm auditioning into) have played the opening very fast.

Any help/commentary?

Much apprciated, and very nice playing--love the tone of the cello! I would have to lie to disown all jealosy.

[cellokitty19]

@cellokitty19: Sorry; I'm referring to the first movement. I quite like the fast pace, though.

[cadazar123]

this is great.. but it's not in d minor, the pitch is weird

[animeviolalord]

@cadazar123: *Sigh*.....read the comment I wrote when I replied to Organiste06...

[sosome57]

@animeviolalord LOL. A440, A415, AXXX.... The key of H stumped me for a few minutes, too, though, I have to admit. Cheers and good luck. Thanks for the music!

[hezixiao]

@cadazar123 my friend that's because in the Baroque period the standard tuning note was G# instead of A, so that was one semitone lower than todays music. This was possibily because the gut strings couldn't hold too much tension. Therefore the "actual" pitch of the tonic here would be db :)

[RePtiLeFreAk018]

boah und des muss ich spielen-wollt ihr mich umbringen?!

[Demighoul]

Where is the first trill in Largo e Spiccato?

[StanEvalio]

best evrsion on YT!

love the last movement :-)

[Marvintherobot8]

The quality of the actual audio is a bit distracting from the music, but this is one of my favorite Vivaldi pieces. I've got no complaints with the musicians, but the audio quality of the upload made the sound slur a bit. Took away from the great music.

[TheCruelArtist]

O_o why is it like a semiton lower?

[reinux]

that's how things were tuned back then for the most part. a lot of baroque ensembles these days play with this tuning for authenticity's sake.

i think it also serves to reduce the tension on string instruments, which results in a less bright and more warm sound, as was the case with the instruments of the day.

[TheCruelArtist]

haha yeh. logic.

[aviya43]

it's just a different tuning, usually used for baroque music,,

[TheCruelArtist]

lol the pitch back then was around 415 and is around 440 now, so it sounded a semitone lower. ^^''

[MoisesTerrazasTV]

yeah, why?? :S

[TheCruelArtist]

well, in the beginning, the pitch was lower. it got higher as music envolved. O_o like at my high school, we're usually playing with 440hz. But I start to play with 441hz Lol

[MoisesTerrazasTV]

xD i lke 442hz =] it stills a A but a little bit brighter, =] amm, but this audio is like a semiton like if were playing in 435hz xD or whatever.. well.. see ya.. =]

[Organiste06]

Must be period instruments.

[animeviolalord]

@Organiste06: Yes. This comment is to everyone in general. If you read the info, I clearly state that this group is using authentic performance practice. That means they [the English Concert] is using authentic instruments/replicas of 17th and 18th century instruments, authentic ancient music technique, and Baroque tuning (a'=415 in this case). Therefore, I shouldn't see anymore comments about this.

[ZaraTwilightSaga]

I'm playing this with a good friend of mine :3

I love it ='D

[humphreyvivace]

Amazing playing. I, however, do not agree with the allegros. In the baroque era (when Vivaldi composed) instruments were not made to, nor could possibly play this fast, that is new to modern day instruments. So i think Vivaldi probably would have had it in mind that it be played a little slower. But otherwise, this was fantastic.

[animeviolalord]

@humphreyvivace: The instruments could indeed play this fast. This group is using authentic instruments. In fact, the two violin soloists are using actual 17th century instruments (one of the instruments is a model from Cremona, Italy, made in 1650). Although I also don't completely agree with the speed at which this piece is made, I do know that these instruments are capable of being played fluently at this speed.

[humphreyvivace]

@animeviolalord thank you for correcting my mistake. that is ust what i had been taught. I love to learn new things, so again, thank you

[82224561]

@animeviolalord

I think the tempo here let well showing the harmony line and contrasts,so is well interpreteted...!!

poicpi

[perfectstrings]

@humphreyvivace He's right: they are playing on period instruments. Another thing to keep in mind when tempos were written down prior to exact notation was that terminology was relative. The biggest hint as to how something should be played by the tempo marking was style, not actually speed (though by extention speed did determine style).

[TheWoodyNation]

@perfectstrings Until you get to the Romantic Era where Chopin said Screw this Shit!

[gpensky]

@humphreyvivace i think it sound better in allegro. it might even sound better in vivace, like summer.

[ifrit1780]

I love all versions of this.

[mitoorealidades]

bravooooooo ¡¡¡

[Wingzero5555]

actually could you guys identify this song at :03- :30

[animeviolalord]

@Wingzero5555 The marking at :03-:30 in "Allegro". On iTunes, this will probably be listed as Concerto in D-Minor Op. 3 No. 11. See if that works.

[Wingzero5555]

mm would anyone be able to type out how Itunes would list this specific song

[dnair9]

Played with a fantastic energy and with

a spasmic buoyancy well suited for the

piece. Best interpretation..ever.

[animeviolalord]

I agree with you. I've yet to hear an interpretation better than Trevor Pinnock's.

[didiistheman]

awesome

[paradoxicus]

Maravillosa interpretación.El mejor "prette rosso".Divino barroco.