William Cooper (Mystery Babylon) Golden Dawn of Man 1/5

[karamarouge]

Some of what is in these vids is true. A bunch of it is just total hog wash and mularkey! Its really laughable. See I happen to have an opportunity (a real one) to explore the mysteries of mankind but I am scared of the consequences. I do not trust the master of the teacher I am in touch with and would sooner benefit from his knowledge than dare to undertake study.

For now, I laugh at stupid atheists and their rather narrow minded views. It gives me joy to know that soon they will be exposed.

[foxnewsblowsalot]

Read Manly P. Hall Secret Teachings of All Ages! Its free online!

[NFLkRONikxXx]

thanks for letting us in your thoughts. i'l pray for you.

[NFLkRONikxXx]

Creator is on His way. as written all things shall come to pass.. do wutever u want u think will stop it, its all gona happen anyways, best to give praise n prayer rest of these days we hav left. pce up.

[SpinyStarCraft]

@NFLkRONikxXx or thats a good excuse to do nothing either one

[jetlorider]

u know that dream about talking over the world? yeah..someone's dream already came true a long time ago...and your living in They're world.

[freetimeforcash]

Peace yungjeezy10! Those who created this habitat know fear and chaos are not dominant forces as they are forces which destroy themselves. We watch to see what our creation/experiment will do to THEMSELVES. The law that you reap what you sow is real. Your eyes which see linear time does not avail you the truth of cause and effect. One day we may teach you to step through the worlds. The matrix is real. Just a seed. PEACE to all BEINGS!

[freetimeforcash]

Religion is a fishbowl lying at the bottom of the ocean. It makes the dweller within feel like they know the world around them based upon the walls which they have become accustomed to bumping their heads on. They are ruled by a fear that they are unaware is present in them. They see the things outside of the bowl and worship love or fear them. They are unaware that if they seek within themselves that they will build and develop the will and guidance to swim outside of the bowl and grow into th

[freetimeforcash]

Notice that he said mankind and not man. Notice that he said evolution and not seeded/ created. Thus is speaking of humans and not human beings. Homo erectus and not homo sapien. 40 million year difference in the makeup of the species. Those who do not search for Nibiru but who are afraid to mix their genes with any other races.

[thirdeyegasm]

is this whole first part explaining the opinion of the mystery schools?

[Jamminstarr]

SIKHS ARE NOT PART OF THE TRADITIONAL RELIGIONS AND WERE ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE OF BRAHMINS. BRAHMINS ARE LIKE PAGANS. SIKHS ARE NOT HINDUS OR BUDDHISTS. THERE IS MUCH PROPAGANDA TO MIS ALIGN SIKHS AND CHANGE THE TRUE DOCTRINE OF NANAKIAN PHILOSOPHY.

[Jamminstarr]

@Jamminstarr

SO THE SIKH SYMBOL SHOULD NOT BE DISPLAYED ABOVE. IT'S BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY THE PROPHETS OF THAT RELIGION DIRECTLY UNLIKE THE OTHER RELIGIONS.

[911patagonia]

Primitives did not leave people to die who were weak. There is evidence that handicapped cave dwellers and nomads were taken care of by their families, so this "survival of the fittest" bs is flawed.

[dashosalt27]

damn i like cheeeeeeeeesssssseeeeeee

[TheCanadaghost]

lol the light = satan and satan hides in the shadows because he is a coward. The light is NOT knowledge hahahah that hilarious. Knowledge is not a coward lol

[ausdiv]

The light (Lucifer) is knowledge and yes it did corrupt the garden of Eden, but it also gave us the power to tame the beasts that were to come. Lucifer has been portrayed as the devil by people who do not want to share the knowledge so they could use it to keep power over the masses. This is still true today and is clearly evident in the invention of the 'Curriculum', a tool the aforementioned people use to attempt to keep us from the light.

[PreacherTHC]

@TheRush905 No I'm saying that the scriptures in Isiah That talk about Lucifer Is talking about the king of Babylon Isaiah 14:4. Because Babylon Was the First Kingdom Of the earth according to the Bible Genesis Ch 11 vs 8. It was like a Shining light to the world at that time. But The "Light" is Knowledge! Always has been always will be. The people of this world worship knowledge because they believe that thought it they can become there own gods. Genesis Ch 3 Vs 4.

[PreacherTHC]

@TheRush905 (part 2)

Every Mainstream religion of today has ether evolved out of this Ancient Worship That Mr. Cooper Speaks of, Or has in some way been corrupted by it. Which is the Worship Of Lucifer the LIGHT, Knowledge! And it has nothing to do with GOD or the devil.

[PreacherTHC]

@TheRush905 (Part 1)

Your right It is the Earthly Human King of Babylon named Nimrod That The bible talks about, Not Satan the Devil!!!! Because yes the pride of this king was so great that He cause All of humanity to rebel Against the Most High GOD. And This Human king thought he could "ascend above the heights of the clouds; And be like the most high" This human king Is also responsible for all the false belief systems of the world. (continue)

[PreacherTHC]

@TheRush905 haha your funny. I like you.

[tahuti6]

William Cooper is a moron... what a bunch of ignorant crap!! Does this guy actually READ anything before 'expounding' on what he clearly does not grasp? Yet one more idiot standing outside the closed doors of the lodge, guessing at what the secret is, absolutely convinced that satan is behind it all, and preaching this stupidity to the mindless masses of internet surfing water-headed dolts, who, just like Cooper, are simply too lazy to go to a library and actually RESEARCH any of it.

[PreacherTHC]

@tahuti6 May I ask are you part of the lodge?

[tahuti6]

@PreacherTHC that would depend on what 'lodge' you are referring to. I'll message you. :)

[PreacherTHC]

@tahuti6 I just want to know what the truth is. If you think you have an insight to it, I would greatly appreciate hearing it. I wish to be Illumined.

[tahuti6]

@PreacherTHC What I am willing to say in public is that the mysteries refer to a process by which one may come to experience a REAL and TANGIBLE experience of divinity, as opposed to resting their minds on church dogma, accepting belief that forbids questioning and thought. Religion is a barrier between man and God, where what you know and think is dictated by an institution of men. Initiation is KNOWLEDGE of God through direct experience. Which would you prefer?

[PreacherTHC]

@tahuti6 I agree with what you say about religion, It is a barrier between man and God. That's why I'm not religious! I simply seek a relationship with God. To know him by name, and to have him Know me by name. I have taken the time to study and research a lot of this for about the last ten years. And in my study of the Mystery's, I have discovered that Knowledge is the supreme goal of the initiates. That though the worship of knowledge, man will become GOD. Is this true?

[PreacherTHC]

@tahuti6 If you don't want to answer publicly than you can Private message me.

[yungceezy10]

@tahuti6 you just can't deal with being a pawn, when you want to be a king

[tahuti6]

@yungceezy10 Did I say I was having any trouble 'dealing' with anything? It's you ignorant scared sheep who seem to be acting all jumpy. You can't accept that evil and greed are dominant and chaotic forces, so you want to simplify all of the world's problems into one neat package with as few people to blame as possible. The people who gave you what little freedom you had were doing so under the influence of masonic and rosicrucian principles. You've turned on the only help you ever had. Fools

[tahuti6]

As a point of fact... the name "Lucifer" LITERALLY pertains to light... It is not a matter of interpretation, opinion, or religious dogma... it is a matter of understanding LATIN!!

[PreacherTHC]

@tahuti6 THANK YOU!!!

[PreacherTHC]

@TheRush905 He never was light! Lucifer Never existed! The very Idea of lucifer(I.e. That he was an angel of light and then turned against god) Is one of the biggest lies ever perpetrated on the Church. In 2 Corinthians ch 11 vs 14 Paul says "And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light." This word "masquerades" Means to pretend! So let me ask you, How can something pretend to be something it already is?

[PreacherTHC]

@TheRush905 And just were in the bible does it say that? Did you know that When the Bible talks about Lucifer in Isiah ch 14 It's talking about The King Of BABYLON!! NOT THE DEVIL!!! The single place where Lucifer if found is in Isaiah 14:12. It reads, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" This so very often and little understood word comes from the Hebrew word Heylel which simply means shining one. You see The word Lucifer means Light! Or The shining Light.

[tahuti6]

@PreacherTHC YESSSS!!! Thank you for that. This is one of the biggest biblical mix-ups ever, and that poor Babylonian king has had his reputation TOTALLY ruined ever since... lol

[scrubs22222222]

U can tell he is reading from a book half of the time

[patri08luz]

Por favor que alguien lo traduzca al español. Gracias!!!!!!!!!

[Mercury418]

All of the Golden Dawn secrets were published years ago. This documentary is the stuff of daydreams.

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[71invictus]

You know what is amusing is that a lot of the stuff Bill goes through I heard repeated word for word on Zeitgeist,the whole Horus thing,now tell me that Zeitgeist isn't a construct to infiltrate the truth Movement.

[deceiver123m]

@71invictus yes it is the work of bill cooper featured in the film. but bill cooper is telling the truth about secret societies. otherwise bill had his cooky weird life; in any case i didnt see bill get rich from being a disinfo agent so trust his words more than any damn freemason or rosecross order member

[deceiver123m]

@71invictus all u have to do is listen to real freemasons, like Manly P Hall, im bout to hunt down the rest of these secret society members and listen to their lectures. So far ive heard Manly P Halls lecture and he is definitely an advocate of a single world government elitist in nature- with the priests and enlightened on top- and the barbarians(non-enlightened) at the bottom of the social hiarchy

[71invictus]

@deceiver123mYou would do well to read "Morals and Dogmas"by Albert Pike

high exalted mason on trial s a Confederate war criminal but escaped it because of his ex halted Masonic status he admits their Luciferian agenda and admits they mislead their own brethren.

[deceiver123m]

@71invictus oh yah, but u have to listen intently- because freemasons are highly intelligent and talk real slick-like, and so theyll talk about how religion was invented by priest but that people were better off for it... and how we need to get back to that in addition to getting back to mysticism. AND im not even making this up, just typing it makes me think, man these secret societies are fucked and people will think im a liar, but im not, The secret orders honestly believe this sort of thing

[SLX10]

Could the bigger picture possibly be: slowly lead the world to the fact that we are slyly manipulating everything, let them revolt, let them establish an order of there own on a world scale - their own NWO. Then infiltrate over time as they have done with country governments over the years?

It may sound far fetched & silly but I want to have free thought over EVERY possibility. The fact is no one knows for sure. Letting us establish this, to lead to such take over is simple, perhaps efficient

[waketheoblivious]

@SLX10

If all humanity was taught your enemy is the man one rank above yours, wars would end and humility would replace them.

[floridausatv]

ALL ROADS LEAD TO AIA

[ChristIsLiberty]

Absolutetly mind-blowing series. It'll open you up.

[Jonchess]

Sounds like Darwinism unless am missing something-where's the secret schools info?

[karlkarlkarl1234]

Hmmm I did give the names of the physicians but they're not here?? I'll post again:

Jacques Valle, J Allen Hynek.

[MoNdiS0mMerSi]

BabylonZoo

[HighRizeSeshionz]

@MoNdiS0mMerSi lol nice. I'm sure ODB would have made a song with that title if he was still alive. He was educating himself so much in jail and called himself Osiris. RIP ODB.

[WhoisJacqueFresco]

@johnsawyer1 I second that

[MrCoolguy6273]

@johnsawyer1 nicola tesla....said he would here a electric language or something like that....cant remeber how though :/

[karlkarlkarl1234]

One of the biggest deceptions is that 'demons don't exist', Í consider myself an educated person, and I have come to realise they are very much real; even some of the greatest physicists have described these malevolent 'inter-dimensional' beings.

[WhoisJacqueFresco]

@karlkarlkarl1234 name a few of those physicists that describe these malevolent interdimensional beings....

[1tonykirk]

@karlkarlkarl1234 , I concur with you 100%. As a former Agnostic (and previously Catholic) I came a rather circuitous way to where my perceptions stand today. Newest on my reading list:

"Apollyon Rising 2012" by Tom Horn ... an "EYE' opener to be certain.

Peace

[fraterlucifer888]

evolution is the law evolution thru love under will

[filmtress]

'Natual Section'? I thought Darwin was dead. His bullshot theory opened a path to justified racism. You have racist coming on Youtube defending the Indo-Europeans, Indo Aryan & Indo Iranians bloody conquering, rape & the subjugation of peaceful peoples. So this video is saying that all of these secret societies are intrinsically RACIST! Note: They are not more intelligent. Because Intelligent people do not destroy the home in which they live. Mother Earth is going to hell & they did it!

[vincent4500]

youre actually right...i thought NWO was a facist human thing..but more you research it the more it just doesnt add up as a human thing....mystery religions 6000 yrs of secret working towards NWO, see "Walter Veith - the UN and the Occult Agenda"...lucifer is at the heart of the UN spirituality...and its coming 'home' not long away...quite poss.2012..

[Awhiffofsuspicion]

really.. ' any piece of flotsam and jetsam within our grasp should be considered as a precipitate of our desire' or fear as far as im concerned.

[Awhiffofsuspicion]

what

[SouthFacedWindows]

What did Jack Black say?

[omer008]

He sure did! I come from a long line of nut busters. I practice this sacred ritual of nut busting to this day.

[RiKuDoSeNnIn316]

rip cooper a true hero

[TH3NM3WITHIN1984]

god botherers on a modern day witch trial, remember what happened last time?

[wizardluxas]

This design knows nothing on the workings of mystery schools, let alone the models from which they created their awareness...

dawnism, isn't a skill or study of mystery schools..

As a mystery school "School of Luxor" we know that man looked to the heavens and the heavens looked back into man sending the awareness to see into things, events, and models, and so we who saw too much too early took to companion and drive with those like ourselves... we still do that to this day outside of the model

[gween]

"If you have eyes, see.

If you have ears, listen."

Jesus couldn't have said it better himself, he also said "know the truth and it shall set you free"

"The human mind can either research everything and desire the absolute truth or debunk everything out of fear or stupidity"

[jsaracee1]

damn people come on

give up on this bs crap of thinking your going to help anything by gosiping

move on

love ya

[omer008]

It was my ancestors that first discovered that all nuts can be cracked with rocks. After this discovery he immediately bust a nut on my great great great great grand mama.

[roldie2]

goddamn! lmao

[tripleM226]

first this is wrong if you are a true follower or supporter of any of these cult, sect, religions, ect. this is not how man was created. second you wasted alot of my time trying to pretend you were actually there or something like that. its gay and annoying.

[AnotherCompartment]

why didn't any other animals have these mysterious jumps in evolution? why don't monkeys walk out of the forest?

[AnotherCompartment]

why does he take so long to get to his point?

[Billions719]

keep ratings low so it wont get deleted

[abbesieyes]

No Mystery Schools. Mystery school is all Religion...the lie over the valid. If you wish to hide the valid before everyone...rename it and then teach it as it has been renamed.

The current drive of 'Rome' - hide validity and roll back the enlightenment.

[QuaaludeMidnight]

Sorry, you're wrong. I'm not going to convince you of why.... because I don't care about educating you. Not that I don't care about humanity, but I just simply don't have the time to show you people the truth one by one. I will go as far as to say that you are partially right. Many religions were crafted by demons in order to keep humanity worshipping the same devils under new guises.... but that's not where the story ends.

[abbesieyes]

'I'm not going ot convince you of why' = I have no basis upon which to do so.

All 'religion' is crafted by demons - human or otherwise. Demons may only bastardize that which God has created for all to use. Nimrod exists as Rome today.

There is only one thing valid, which the errant have named a religion but which is not. And fragments of it exist within most civilizations.

Rebuild the tower from interior to exterior...in proper spirit.

[QuaaludeMidnight]

I can't undrstand a word of your incoherent babble. One thing though: Humans are not demons.

[abbesieyes]

I can't understand a word.... = I have not questioned everything I have come to know, from the first moment I could know it.

[MikeHuntagape]

I'm gonna get me a long sharp stick

[cycimian]

Until Youtube and this funny kid named Charley Sheen said (Check it out for yourself) I never knew about Bill Cooper. Seems mainstream media is not in the information buisness as to being informed outside of the CFR agendists of RacketFelan. Anyways thanks for posting this vid.

[epicdred]

umm i have never known Youtube (owned by google [Google is one of the biggest contributors to the Eugenics movement] ) to be sympathetic the freedom of speach or freedom of information. as of late the youtube cencsorship crew has been systematically deleting peoples accounts for having movies involving the truth movement, campaign for liberty, or anything that exposes the corrupt establishment we all know as the NWO, or as i like to call it THE OLD WORLD ORDER.

[cycimian]

I hear you as i have also seen from past internet how less the webs become as to freedom and interaction of content, Seems to me Sam has a trillion dollar budget all aimed at me when it comes to an honest comment or interpiation, anyways my friend, Im without Software Support retoricaly,

[EwakAmerica]

I thought charlie sheen was nuts but he is just like, look for yourself and you will see the evil.

[cycimian]

I cant see the Sheen family other then as concerned Americans. Maby my eyes are failing as im getting older, The kid had a pretty rough time going through rehab and staying clean is a daily walk that has to be taken step by step. I wont say anthing other then he woke up alot of sheeple. An im not too proud to say i was one of them Ewak.

[waketheoblivious]

North American Union, NAU first proposed in 1916 not fully executed, but soon will be. Likely, the EU was proposed same date, although I haven't done the research. NAU has to be completed for the capstone reflected on American currency to be set. Presently, the "all seeing eye" is above the partially completed pyramid. When the US dollar collapses, the fix will be aligning Canada, America & Mexico plus convert to the Amero. NAU, AMERO is the major capstone event for satanic NWO proponents.

[ZR1Terror]

@waketheoblivious if you think the Euro will over power the Dollar you are wrong because the Euro is in big trouble now

[d2eux]

So whats the name of that pyamid??

[Marbus0]

The Pyramid of Marbus!

LOL

[tahuti6]

@d2eux It's called the "Everyone is conspiring to get you" pyramid... but it looks like they left out 'Mickey Mouse" lol

[WhatsUpWithOurWorld]

So the occultists actually believe in the evolution crap?

[Hitoderon]

To clarify this "WhatsUpWithOurWorld":

This is what initiates of the Mystery Religion are taught. What the people at the top believe or what the ultimate truth is may be quite different.

[d2eux]

whats the significance behind the pyrimad in this video? Does it have a name? Why is the swastika at the top? I would figure Horus's eye would be.

[SoldierWithoutAName]

Swastika is the symbol of sun, and i guess that was the god of the first religions for some time.

[d2eux]

oo interesting I had no idea. I would figure the eye would be on top

[d2eux]

oh I already said that

[negative1ons]

lol, like books on tape.

Wonder if he was behind this theory %100 or weather it was just filler.

[LokiTeslar2012]

he's against the mystery teachings but wants ppl to understand them so we know more about whats being played out around us in the world

[DescrySoul]

I turned this off the moment I heard the disclaimer.

[drailluos]

lol, so what did you think of the material?

[mand1sh3p]

wow...smh u dont have to believe everything u hear but an open mind comes with having the willingness to listen.

[freshmeatz]

We are all born into sin as for the myth is a lie to begin with, but that does not mean we have to follow the path of the rich bastards who think they can enslave the world in monetary debt. The democracy may exist, but the republic was built on laws , not men of Oligarchy even though most were masons.

[TheLegacyofKain]

i do rembember in one of his speach that these secret societies do believe in god or lucifer so or this speach is faked or he just changed his mind

[Marbus0]

dude you dont remember shit. if you did than you wouldnt be guessing.

[PreacherTHC]

@TheLegacyofKain Lucifer = Light = Intelligence!!

They worship intelligence!!!!! Knowledge, Gnostic.

[Freethinkin14]

@TheLegacyofKain yeah mon Its Lucifer the worship

[GoldenLightD]

Life is a test of wether you will follow your ego and pride, or if you will humble yourself and surrender to God, the ultimate source and power we all can sense within. God is far greater than any of you, God is Spirit and the very essence of life and is the light that gives life to all. Do not delude yourself by thinking you are an equal to got, your little body will soon pass away and your soul will enter into eternal spiritual realms. The quality depending on your purity of heart, praise God.

[michaelfingard]

this evolution idea is bullshit. our technological capacities have increased at such a rate as to preclude andy such farcical notion. in fact we are likely genetically altered by vatious et races. why is the stone age so long but we go from steel to computers to stem cells in just a few hundred years?! think about it. whatever mysteries these societies have preserved evolution is NOT among them.

[gtg309v]

I take it you don't know any of the history of computers and stem cells or any of our technology. Turns out that, in history, there were actually people using their brains while people like you were jerking off.

[Marbus0]

"why is the stone age so long but we go from steel to computers to stem cells in just a few hundred years"? LOL you might want to reconsider the few hundred years part. More like 50 years

[TheLegacyofKain]

watch?v=LU1sIbhKc8o&feature=re­lated watch this smartass this is where he talks about it

[Marbus0]

lol the video is not there anymore.

[TheLegacyofKain]

well in that video he talks about these secret societies and their believes and their believes are different from this speach, they do believe in God and lucifer but they believe that God imprisoned us and lucifer set us free, too bad that that video is closed, but you can look at other parts of that video they are not less interesting

[freshmeatz]

you are correct, Bill hates people who are no educated in this. Was one of his pet peeves. Good view !

[jimmycrackcorn1981]

ya up to 100 years ago the world was largely free there were some big cities but they were on there own. now everything is highly controlled . even the country is trapped by taxes. wtf?? must have been satan or aliens. But if it were those things why weren't we living in full control 1000 years? why just recently

[rockandufc]

hmm that sounds pretty nice that the world was largely free and people were on their own. now, it seems depressing that you have to have money to do just about anything now. no wonder there seems to be so many people looking depressed and lost.

[girlphriend]

people were still subject to kings or emporers. they werent "free" someone else owned the land that they worked/lived on (just like now, you can own proptery but NOT land). they have been spreading for CENTURIES using different means of control. When people started rebelling against the crown, they realized they had to rule another way. so they set up a republic and quickly changed it to a democracy. then slowly (they HAVE to be subtle) they took one right away after another...

[jimmycrackcorn1981]

well i guess i should say a hundred years ago the crown not little to no control over the people living outside major cities. how if you dont pay your tax's you could live in the middle of the rocky mountains and have the feds knockin atyour door

[WhoisJacqueFresco]

@girlphriend until someone figured out the history and started telling everyone how they were still in control and was killed off by those in power that installed a new movement to take over the rising movement opposed to the old system while offering a new idea/system of technocracy when it is still just the same old oligarch that will be in control that the leaders of the new movement will never reveal with solid evidence

[moosaadammanik]

dear sir,

maybe it is that intelligence is quite exponential, just like how a nuclear bomb initiates the chain of events.

[silbitnuoc]

@michaelfingard Technology builds on itself, more the more you have the more quickly it will improve.

[alexktard]

...which leads to no sense of purpose other than self indulgence....they gave up at the 32nd or 33rd degree...it never ends........

[alexktard]

"These are powerful people and somewhere in there words is the truth"

no we shall learn from them but not join them

if were to truly believe they had good intentions it would be an open society, not a top down pyramidial authoritarian theocracy...It is arranged in such a fashion to keep the Truth supressed and out of the reach of the public. There is nothing wrong with the teachings, because a coupe of their tennants are "everything is permissable" "do as thou will"

[alexktard]

Wow holy shit I loved his book behold a pale horse, picked it up in NYC years ago, shudda looked more into him, i knew he had been asassinated. Synchronicty has me chasing my tail again

[jackATTACK2226]

RIP William Cooper

For the same people he is speaking against murdered him November 5, 2001..

[WorshipInTruth]

That seems unlikely to me tho. Considering his power and the cult of personality around him, its safe to say he was a high level illuminati or controlled in some way.

[deusmihifortis]

in fact, there are some people (David Icke, etc) say that he was Wiston Churchill bloodline correlative, and all both, Illuminati

[WorshipInTruth]

Joesph Stalin (real name Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili) was apparently Jewish and only dated Jewish girls.He also was a thug who started out robbing trains. I have heard others say that he was Trained by Jesuits at an Eastern Orthodox school.

[peepnklown]

Stalin was another puppet of the elite (illuminati).

[nickvanzetti]

the founding fathers were also part of the illuminati. Josef Stalin faught hard against them and thats wy i honor him

[Marbus0]

Yeah Josef Stalin who was one of the biggest Illuminatist.

[nickvanzetti]

believe what you want. what do you think the Purges were about?

[ciclicchange]

i think he (William cooper) was reading from the book "The secret teachings of all ages" and some people now caim this material to be their research.

[Marbus0]

Wrong William Cooper read many books to do this whole series.

[ciclicchange]

yes i know. but in this episode he is definetly reading from "Secret teachings of all ages" by Manley Palmer Hall

[WorshipInTruth]

I hope he also realizes that the writings of these masonic "new age" thinkers Manley P. Hall are meant to be purposefully deceptive by only tell part of the truth.

[Marbus0]

You should never ignore anything just because it dosnt suit you or you dont like that person. These are powerful people and somewhere in there words is the truth. Shall we ignore them just because there New Agers?

[WorshipInTruth]

Did I say you should "ignore" the new agers and occultists? Far from it, you should be very aware of thier views and beliefs so that you can know what to stay away from. Unless of course you like lucifer worship.

[Amirmourad]

Everybody is afraid of that which they do not understand.

All right and wrong is a highly relative phenomenon.

"God" , or that thing which one refers to as the source of existence, is also a highly relative phenomenon, unless you are able to transcend the limitations of your own mind which has created all of these pre-conceived notions.

You should not stay away from anything. Refraining from something does not mean that you have become liberated from it, it just means supression.

[WorshipInTruth]

Oh your another one of those guys who has been brainwashed into thinking there is no absolute truth and that everything is relative. In that case there is no point in arguing with you if your indifference to things of a spiritual or philosophical nature has led you to that conclusion. Considering that right and wrong is "relative" im assuming that you base your morals on what is convenient for you at the moment. You know, Scripture warns about people like you.

[Amirmourad]

Scripture, all scriptures of the world, are inventions of mind. God is not a reality for the majority of individuals, but only a concept, an idea, a belief, a form which they have created. The truth is such a vast phenomenon, that the only way to understand it is through direct experience at the level of consciousness, not through thinking, believing, or intellectual work.

[Amirmourad]

I did not say there is no absolute truth. Things exist on two scales. Relatively and absolute. If you are looking at existence based upon comparison of one thing to another thing, with the tool of your mind which imposes itself on reality, seeing what it wants, then you are analysing things on a relative scale. The totality of all things - without discrimination of one thing from another, seeing things as they are - is an absolute scale.

[Amirmourad]

On an absolute scale, there is no right or wrong, good or bad. These are nothing more than perspectives and points of view created by the mind. This is relative according to the social standards a society has set in a certain time and place in a certain culture and tradition. And by considering whatever you consider as "good" or "bad" - automatically you create conflict and division between yourself and the "other".

One suffers not because of right or wrong, but every cause has an effect.

[goldgrif]

actually you are the

'programmed' one

[WorshipInTruth]

By who? Society told me God doesnt exist and that Jesus is a lie. I saw through the programming.

[marktimmer2212]

god is the universe, your soul is god

nature is god, both spirit and matter

its us figuring out, what is god

[WorshipInTruth]

Oh yes tell me more oh wise one.

[marktimmer2212]

kinda clever i thaught!

[marktimmer2212]

thanks punk !

i believed it as i wrote it, ffs

[WorshipInTruth]

Actually the idea that "god" is figuring himself/itself out through his creation is the exact belief of the lucifer worshipping gnostics (aka) Illuminati. Where have you been learning that new age garbage?

[marktimmer2212]

it came to me, as a thaaught

and i am sure as hell no incense burner

nor lucifuckarian!

Mark

[marktimmer2212]

and who exactly do you worship?

you seem to know alot about this Lucifuckarian

[WorshipInTruth]

Yeah I know my fair share about theology and the occult. But I believe in YWHW of the Bible-Torah and his blessed risen Son Yeshua Messiah (Jesus Christ). I believe scripture is accurate and that most of the writers of the books of the Holy Bible were inspired by the Holy Ghost.

[marktimmer2212]

whats your point on the Summerian claytablets?

are you familiar with them, Mark

[michaelfingard]

occult just means hidden. by the time we find out many societies have been infiltrated and turned. it is the ancient science some of which can be seen in the chinese and inidan cultures. it is not evil but has been hidden from and used against us. it can be noted that (and probably xtians are suspcicious here for good reason) initiation into the old mysteries ideally has preparation and specific guidance in order have a safe passage. isnt it obvious? just one more suppressed technology.

[WorshipInTruth]

I understand what "occult" means. The fact that it is "hidden" implies that it has something to hide. If it was good, why would it be kept "hidden" from the masses, what would it have to hide. The idea of possessing occult knowledge which shouldnt be given to the "profane" has elitest connotations. Yes the occult is evil. Themes of "lucifer" and pagan worship and astrology and other practices condemned by YWHW pervade it. You are making your spiritual blindness known to me.

[WorshipInTruth]

I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing. - Yeshua Messiah (Jesus)- John 18:20

[ciclicchange]

he doesnt realizes anything anymore because he was murdered , but as he used to say " im just quoting from the horses mouth so that you can understand what these people think"

[dustynapalm]

Thanks man excellent stuff.

More need to know.