There are at many prophecies for the Messiah that have not been fulfilled yet. When they are fulfilled in their entirety...then all people will be believe...including the Jews. There is no reason to speculate if Jesus was the messiah at this time as it is obvious that famine, war and pestilence are still on earth. When creation is completed through the coming of messiah everyone will bow down to him, no matter who he turns out to be as all creation will be completed.
If you're going to choose WHAT you believe, then BELIEVE in Jesus, in who He was, in what He did, and that He died for your sins and mine, your crimes and mine, large and small, and THEN He rose from the dead to everlasting life, and there are SOME He will take with Him. Believe! Be changed by Jesus Christ, for the better, like me! -John †
So, someone can talk for 7 min about the alleged messiah and not say a damn thing? He is going for the wow factor with numbers and stuff! He seems real impressed (and is betting you are too) that one part of a Bronze Age book proves another part of the same book, by the way, Jack and the Beanstalk does this!
Even if these odds are real it still proves nothing. It's very clear: the gospel authors who knew about these prophecies manipulated information so that it would seem that it all matches up. Unless you start by assuming that the biblical account is real then all these probabilities fall flat.
John 5:37 "And the father who sent me has himself testified on my behalf. You have never heard his voice or seen his form"
How can you then claim Jesus is god as many people saw him.
You are not reading the bible; you accept what you hear in church and do not read the bible yourself. The bible has lots of facts inside it and if you read it yourself you will recognise the truth.
Jeremiah says that his life would model Joseph and Isaac from Genesis. Taken to the mount to be sacrificed (Isaac). Wrongly imprisonned with 2 others and raised to be seated at the right hand of the King(Joseph). Passed out the blessing to the second born (Born again) as an old man (Isaac). There are too many coinincedences in these two men with the Messiah. Or worse, Dan. tells us the date of arrival; Only Jesus came on that date.
Ecclessiastes is FROM the torah! Do you not know the torah? Ecclessiastes, like many other parts of the torah, is also poetic, therefore it is not going to be science-politically correct if interpreted as a science lecture!
"Jewish prophecy" is only correct, and is only trully Jewish prophecy, when it is based on the inspired word of God, not the traditional beliefs of some Jews.
Well, you've just shown how illiterate you are of the torah. I am quoting directly from the torah, which is qhat should be considered the true Jewish prophecy, but you are speaking of Jewish tradition based on ignorance of Jewish prophecy. The Old Testament in the bible is the torah, so get it straight. I quoted Isaiah from the torah, bring out your torah and compare what has been quoted!
Isaiah 53: 9-10: He was assigned a grave with the wicked,and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence,nor was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
02joseph02, I can stop at these 2 verses, but if u push it, there are hundreds more that promised the Messiah would die
Isaiah 53:12: Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,and he will divide the spoils with the strong,because he poured out his life unto death,and was numbered with the transgressors.For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
XD Like I said, I'm not insulting you. And I can tell just by the low class way you act that you've been to college and that would be the desperate position that I'm talking about ;P
Doesn't matter if you're American. Doesn't matter if Catholics are Christian(which they're not). Anyone can commit mass killings. Not just Catholics. XD.
Anyone of any religion is capable of mass murder. You atheist Americans have killed over 40 million babies from abortion. Atheist China killed over 100 million live babies during martial law. Muslims killed 80 million Hindus over the past 100 years. Atheist Stalin starved millions of people in Russia. Anyone can do mass killings, it's not just CHristians
And you're just ignorant. Saying that Catholics are Christians is like saying Hindus are Taoists. They don't have the same rules, and they don't follow the same thing. Get get an education you ignorant dunce
Any man, of any religion is capable of killing mass millions of people. Atheist Chinese killed millions of babies during their martial law population control. Stalin killed millions of people during communist Russia. Secular Humanism killed millions of babies during the abortion revolution. The muslims killed 80 million Hindus in the span of the 20th century. Anyone can do that, don't just single us out. And that's a red herring too, just because it happened, doesn't make God false
Of course you would say that, you're atheist, therefore you have no standard of morals, and you can act as barbaric as you want, but I'll still pray for you, no matter how childish and immature you are
What Paul was saying in Rom 8:11, was simply trying to make us realize that if we follow this same path of Christ, We can become immortals. JESUS set the pace for us to follow. I'm afraid u have no point overseasmedia. There are overwhelming testimonies upon this name that you can't refute. We have gone 2 far to turn back at this point. I know many people's believes have been twarted & they had to turn back after realizing they were heading to wrong path. u need to try harder! g'luck!
what is your point overseasmedia. What do you really want to discover in this forum. What do you really want to achieve after all this? do you want to deviate people into or lure them away from their believes? ponder John 10:17-18. No man earth has ever made such a statement but for this lone man. HE said it, & HE did it. When HE ressurected, many saw HIM though his body was transformed into immortal being. Better still ponder Rom 8:11. There's a Spirit of imortality in everybody.
If you say you are a Christian overseasmedia, why restle with other christians then. You are not explicite in professing your faith. I agree we need more light but is the the only forum for you to enlighten about who is JESUS? You have been so negetive towards christianity & yet u denote yourself as a Christian. So, what's your point? I have decided to take that risk, even if it were false, it's my decision to follow Christ passinately till the end.
passionate4Christ:I do not restle the true Christianity, I do challenge the flase assumptions of people. BTW, I asked the questions no one answered, because they simply are unaware of "what they believe in". That does NOT represent the Christianity very well from my point of view. Moreover, your perception of Chist is dangerous, because it's wrong. Shalom.
Overseasmedia: God hasn't denied us to use all our senses to it fullness. God has not limited us to use much more than this. We have limited ourselves just as we(Adam & Eve) decided to bring sin into the World. It must a reciprocal thing, a give & take & vice versa. JESUS said, "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatsoever ye will, and it shall be done unto you." John 15:7. In HIS human form, HE kept abiding to the FATHER. This is what it takes.
passionate4Christ: Tha's very true. We're limiting ourselves, and we should ask ourselves what makes us put impose these limitations upon us? Is that a fear, a doubt or guilt? Jesus said: "Nothing coming from outside could make you "unclean" but what's within you makes you unclean". What did he mean?
passionate4Christ: #2 Jesus meant to look for the "cause" inside you, not "outside", for nothing "outside yourself" could make you create NEGATIVE VIBRATION (i.e. FEEL BAD, e.g. a SINNER) I think Adam and Eve had already paid for their mistake and that was fair enough to forget about what they did, especially when they have been flooded by All Mighty long time ago.
contd- It was part of His plan. God knew that satan would enter a serpent and tempt Eve. He knew even before He created the universe, that He was going to have to come down to His creation and die for it.
But you know what os? I could try to explain all this to you in terms that a 5 year old would understand and you still wouldn't get it. You know why? Because the cross is foolish to you. It's foolish to everyone who does not know Christ.
John 4:25 says "The women said to Him,I know that Messiah is coming ,He Who is called the Christ ,the Anointed One,and when He arrives He will tell us everything we need to know and make it clear to us. Jesus said to her,I Who am now speaking with you am He."
what are you all excited about, I can't figure it out. I get so excited with that math. the way you say trillion so many times I'm convinced. hallelujah
Why do those palestines blow themselves up, I guess their life must be worthless.
PS: In fact, the Bible says that God sometimes grants the power of "miracles" to charlatans, in order to test Jewish loyalty to the Torah (Deut. 13:4) Don't you know that?
4)JEWISH BELIEF IS BASED SOLELY ON NATIONAL REVELATION:Of the 15,000 religions in human history, only Judaism bases its belief on national revelation i.e. God speaking to the entire nation. If God is going to start a religion, it makes sense He'll tell everyone, not just one person. Judaism, unique among all of the world's major religions, does not rely on "claims of miracles" as the basis for its religion.
Ironically, Isaiah's prophecies of persecution refer in part to the 11th century when Jews were tortured and killed by Crusaders who acted in the name of Jesus. From where did these mistranslations stem? St. Gregory, 4th century Bishop of Nanianzus, wrote: "A little jargon is all that is necessary to impose on the people. The less they comprehend, the more they admire."
C."SUFFERING SERVANT"Christianity claims that Isaiah chapter 53 refers to Jesus, as the "suffering servant." In actuality Isaiah 53 directly follows the theme of chapter 52, describing the exile and redemption of the Jewish people.The prophecies are written in the singular form because the Jews ("Israel") are regarded as ONE UNIT! Torah is filled with examples of the Jewish nation referred to with a singular pronoun.
The verse in Psalms 22:17 reads: "Like a lion, they are at my hands and feet." The Hebrew word ki-ari (like a lion) is grammatically similar to the word "gouged." Thus Christianity reads the verse as a reference to crucifixion: "They pierced my hands and feet." So calm down, the Jewish messiah shouldn't be "pierced"!
A (virgin birth) The word "alma" has always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries later and translated it "virgin." This accords Jesus' birth with the I ACE pagan idea of mortals being impregnated by gods.
Biblical verses can only be understood by studying the original Hebrew text, which reveals many discrepancies in the Christian translation. A. VIRGIN BIRTH: Christian idea of a "virgin birth" is derived from the verse in Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth.
C. TORAH OBSERVANCE: The Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The Torah states that all mitzvot remain binding forever, and anyone coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4) Throughout the Bible contradicts the Torah and states that its commandments are no longer applicable.
B.The Messiah must be descended on his father's side from King David (see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1). According to the Christian claim that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth (Mary&Pigeon) he had nothing to do with King David and failed to fulfill the messianic requirement of being descended on his father's side from King David!
2) JESUS DID NOT EMBODY THE PERSONAL QUALIFICATIONS OF MESSIAH AS PROPHET:Jesus was not a prophet. Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the land is inhabited by a majority of world Jewry. During the time of Ezra (circa 300 BCE), when the majority of Jews refused to move from Babylon to Israel, prophecy ended upon the death of the last prophets -- Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.
Jesus appeared on the scene approximately 350 years after prophecy had ended.
Well OS, since you obviously have a Bible, why don't you keep reading Genesis till it sinks in. In my opinion, you don't have to know Christ to be able to understand Genesis, it's too plain and simple already.
The whole Garden of Eden incident, it WAS a test. God could have created a bunch of robots programmed to love Him, but where's the Glory in that?
He gave man free choice. God cannot be blammed for something that man did. cont-
D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world -- on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9)
The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled NONE of these messianic prophecies.
Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming, but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright, and no concept of a second coming exists.
B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6)
C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
science also says, we use only 5% of our brain therefore confirming the scripture written in Luke 17:5-10, rd v10 again. This exactly what science is also proving. We shud not limit ourselves to what we know for there's a greater source out there & if we can just elevate our brains to go beyond just 5%, we will be marvelled by the astounding results. JESUS used 100% of his brain to do what HE had to do. Do i make sense?
passionate4Christ: I see you know what percentage of the human brain is actually "active", yes, they say smth like 5%, but on't you think we're limited because the God wants us to use only 5% of brain? And how do you know what Jesus "used" and what he finally did? No one does know.
science can explain how perfectly our DNA works but above that... why can't they explain how did they(DNA) come to work so perfectly well. What gives they(scientists) the idea to think to come out with such conclusions? they too r humans & only came & met thinx perfect arranged & we might create some thinx but we shud never limit ourselves to just what we know becuz there's always more.
you all can argue as much as you wish there's one thing none of u can refute is The fact that your/our existence was perfectly conceived. or maybe u wish your heads were in between your feet... it's a posibity, i an't kidding. How come u need a nose,mouth,ear,eyez... u name it to be complete? there's always more. There must be a masterpiece behind our existence.
Yes Jesus did manuver his life in such a way... i mean those who worte that bullshit created the story of "fullfillment of the prophecies". So yeah, you COULD ARRANGE ANYTHING!!! The time, the date, the birth the death. All you need is just to have the OT with its "prophecies" in front of your eyes, isn't it clear?
What a dumb video. How can you prove something that is based on so called prophecies it's so pathetic. And the name of the Messiah was not Jesus anyway.
against all odds, i will take the risk to invest in it. only the end will prove me wrong. we all must believe in something... I believe JESUS was/is/will be the Messiah for all ages to come.
passion4Christ: That's OK to believe anything we want to believe, but could anyone explain what does "The Messiah" mean? No, please don't tell me to do a "google" search, try to xplain it in your own words...
Jesus is the Messiah and He is Lord of all and every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is indeed Lord and Saviour. Love your video!!!!
vidmaster75 said, ''sightuponlight! This people do not know what they are talking about. They have never read the bible. So they don't understand what do you man by 'lost sheeps'.They are unaware of what jesus said...''
Gnostic videos are much more interesting, at least they do not insult a human intelligence that fr "some unknown reason" was given upon us by he Lord our God (not sure his name was Jesus) but who cares?
The Gosples were written (presumably in Alexandria, we will know it in year, when they tranlate Codex Sinaiticus) in the end of the I beginning of the II ACE. The "Jesus" story is described in Jewish Talmud (appr. II-I BCE) as "Sepher Toldoth Jeschu".
Pure and sheer idiotic attitude. Jesus is NOT a "Messiah" (messiah is a JEWISH WORD, you got it?) No one gives shit about those "prophecies", since they were written by Jews and the Jews are the one to judge who is THEIR MESSIAH. read what they say about Jesus. Try "Contra Celsum" (Celsum statements why esus was NOT a Messiah)
And you were right! Thre are still attidude toward jesus being a messiah. You say: 'how it could be arranged that Jesus was born EXACTY AT THE TIME PREDICTED'? and i ask you 'how it coul be arranged that his time of birth e stupid gospels was 'predicted' before these insane 'gospels' appeared? Isn't it clear they just looked into the prophecies and tried to 'match them'?
20 He that giveth testimony of these things, saith: Surely, I come quickly: Amen. Come, Lord Jesus. 21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
p.s. You keeping the name of our Lord Jesus with small character is disrespectful! But you dont seem to care, so...
Mystwicca: And who told you that Jesus is "a KING"? His father was a PIGEON (Holy Spirit) Joseph was NOT Jesus's father. And Joseph originated from King David, not Mary and not (sorry) the Pigion! What Josesph has to do with Jesus's birth?
FIDESetRATIOihtys, What do you mean when you say "come"??? It sounds like a cheap porn!"Oh, cum!" What happens id "Jesus comes"? Ho do you know he hasn't "come yet"?
Let me just tell you it was HE who saved me from Satan outright.............easily........so until you experience that yourselof you may never know , although.........Blessed is He who believes and has NOT Seen......but believes :)
Mysticwicca: How did you recognize that "was he" or Jesus. What if that was Judas Galileo or John the Baptist, or James the Just? Did he introduce himself, how did look like, OK? And what the satan had to do with you?
Mysticwicca, who were the eye 'witness'. oh Mystic Wicca? Don't you know there was NO ONE eyewitnessing Jesus? Why don't you read? This t was admitted b the church, they agree that none of the gospels writers "eyewtinessed Jesus". Because there was "no Jesus". At the time the Gospels story-makers lived.
Ok lets spell it out...........Old testament says Where, when, how messiah would be born including bloodline.........and where, when and how hed be killed and ressurected for our sins......and all 7 were fulfilled......and that only mentions a FEW :)
Mystwicca, Read Origen "Contra Celsus" (if you don't know who Origen was: Chistian apologetic writer) where Celsus makes it clear for everyone 'why Jesus was not a Messiah', you will find it interesting!
Mysticwicca: HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He failed ALL the prophecies! Just all of them!First of all HIS NAME WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ESMAIL. That's WHY he was never accepted nor he will ever be "accepted" by Jew, my dear!
Jesus IS THe WORD and The WORD was with GOD, upon the Creation of this Earth :) This Is Biblical though Im not referencing that book to tell you The TRUTH :)
Mysticwicca: Oh, my Goodness, stop this bullshit please. You lips "worship thy Lord God, but your Heart is far away from him". Does your hear tells you the "Bible is the TRUTH"? Great! Why did Herod who was supposed to massacre Jesus died 4 years BEFORE JESUS WAS BORN? TRUTH! RIDICULOUS STUPIDITYcannot be truth.
There are multiple verses which state Jesus IS The Creator......they are ONE :) The Father, The Sone and The Spirit ARE ONE :) If you dont know this, You need to read the Bible abit more maybe OR.........ask GOD Himself and HE WILL Tell You :)
Mysticwicca: But being honest, dearest Wicca, and putting you hand to your heart can you claim that you UNDERSTAND the meaning of what you have just said? You NEED to READ a BIble MORE, to UNDERSTAND it's alegories without taking it "literally"! (like the pharisees did)
Mysticwicca: You're so funny, Mistwicca!You say: "The Father, The Son and the Spirit is One". Now tell me who's the "father", who' the "spirit" and who is the "son", do you have any clue?
scubazemi: Eli, Eli,llama saphachtani? Don't argue with these morons. Their point of view doesn't matter as they "hae the eyes but don't see ad they h the ears but don't listen".
Mystwicca: regarding the "eyewitnesses": YOU ARE TERRIBLY WRONG. They was NO people (writings) who "eye witnessed" Jesus. Jesus is NOT a historical person, thus he can't have "eye-wtinesses".
Jesus is the Elohim- he is the beggining and the end. The end meaninng this world. His spirit hovered over this planit while it was being created- He is the and our creator.
This is powerful, when I let go of the reins and asked Jesus to take over, I had no idea that not only my struggle with druds and alcohol would be removed, but everything distructive to my soul was removed and I felt his spirit come over me and filled my heart and life full of joy.
whatiswhatwillbe, Elohim, my dear, is the plural for the "Eli" - "God" in Hebrew. If Jesus was a "Creator", there would be no need for him to hang himself on that stupid cross. You have no idea what does Messiah mean how can you talk about Jesus being a Messiah?
I am glad to hear that- I only believe that people take God for granted- Most poeple think God is only there to get them out of trouble as if he is only a partying buddy.
He dosent get the respect he deserves.
Most Christians think that only the new testament pertains to them and not the old meaning the Tora Jesus did say he did not come to abolish the old testament, but to complete it.
I apologize for my negative thoughts of you Overseasmedia.
No, I don't think so. I am not his disciple... I need my Teacher, I need my Master here and now, I miss him. I'm glad that at least I am trying to undertand clearly what did he want to tell us.
whatiswhatwillbe: I have replied your mail,and sent it to you, please let me know if you received it.I am at the remote place at the moment, and satellite internet connection plays up. There is nothing to apologize for, honestly, I have a great pleasure talking to you.
whatiswhatwillbe: Well,that's because people are very selfish and ignorant, everything they bother about are their egoistical desires. It seems their nature didn't change much, 2000 years ago, instead of taking a unique opportunity to talk with Jesus and learn the truth, the crowds were chasing him asking "for another miracle".
whatiswhatwillbe: Oh Dear! The "beginning and the end" of the "world", do you know what you're talking about? When you were "full of JOY"? Watching Mel Gibson's Passion of Christ" movie? How on Earth you can be "full of Joy" seeing a brutally murdered man? Are you a pervert?
Whatiswhatwillbe, how does Jesus 'lives in you'? What do you understand about Jesus to 'havem in you' you should know and undstanding teaching. Do you understand what Jesus's teaching was all about? Please tell me, what did Jesus teach 'us'?
whatiswhatwillbe: Well,I sincerely hope you feel OK with Jesus leaving inside you. I also hope he feels fine too. I can't answer your question because I have no clue what "Jesus" you are talking about. I don't know how do you perceive that "Jesus".
Why is it that people like you have a problem with how somones life is changed in a miraculas way through the acceptance of Jesus Christ- is there somthing you are afraid of? If you dont know the Jesus I am speaking of and I think you do- then my hopes are that you locate him.
whatiswhatwillbe: Oh, My Goodness! Why do you think "I have problems or I should be afraid of someone's life and its miracles"? I'm a producer, involved into making a documentary "The Quest for Christ". Sorry, I was just looking for intelligent and interesting people I could interview for the documentary.
There is no need for a documentary about the quest for Christ- He is all around us and in us if we let him.
There is already plenty of word from Adonia Elohim written in Gods word read the Tanakh and also B'rit Hadashah which will help you more in your quest for Jesus Christ.
whatiswhatwillbe: And I have a different point of view. As I saw many people leaving their "Elohims and Adonais" since they're all "outworn" dogmas, that do not serve people any good. I don't care what the slaves think "the Christ is" I KNOW IT.
whatiswhatwillbe: Really? What makes you think I don't "know what the Christ is", but you do?! What makes you judge me as having disrespect for All-Mighty God? I have my persona relationship with Allmighty since I was 5 years old. And I am sure that you never had and will never have any idea of what I mean since you neither enough intellect nor education or scholarship to judge me.
whatiswhatwillbe: If you failed to answer my questions it means that YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, not me. And pushing me away because of your failure doesn't resovle but creates a problem. Think about it. My warmest regards.
whatiswhatwillbe: Ha-ha-ha! You're a very funny person, "Whatiswhatwillbe"! I love that comment. Yes, Jesus is very powerful indeed. I personally don't have any doubts in his power. I would love to be one of his disciples.
Sorry if I made such a bad impression, but as you remember Jesus negatively contradicted Pharisees and even called them the "vipers", not to mention the mess Jesus created in the Temple, you have to agree that at least I was polite and didn't call anyone "vipers" (lol) I am a Christian. Please forgive me if I sounded rude, that I don't disrepect God but I strongly disrespect some of the people's believes and false assumptions.
whatiswhatwillbe: That's very true. For it is the thought (not the words, nor the outer behavior) that makes you "good" or "bad", and by their thoughts the people should be and will be judged.
whatiswhatwillbe: I just challenge people's assumptions, not their Faith in God, because personally I think that their false assumtions are very dangerous since they turn people away of the Christianity and lead them into the darkness of "blind faith". Do you remember what Jesus said about "the blind leading another blind"?
whatiswhatwillbe you are susly delusioned and it may be dangerous for others to listen to you how you can say jesus is a creator when he died on the corss.the creator dosen't die it does have eternal life bullshit man!!!!
Whatiswhatwillbe, why you think anyone who feels differently are delusioned? And they see you as 'a delusioned one'. And you are indeed delusioned because you don't understand the teaching of Jesus.
There are at many prophecies for the Messiah that have not been fulfilled yet. When they are fulfilled in their entirety...then all people will be believe...including the Jews. There is no reason to speculate if Jesus was the messiah at this time as it is obvious that famine, war and pestilence are still on earth. When creation is completed through the coming of messiah everyone will bow down to him, no matter who he turns out to be as all creation will be completed.
yearofglory 2 months ago
If you're going to choose WHAT you believe, then BELIEVE in Jesus, in who He was, in what He did, and that He died for your sins and mine, your crimes and mine, large and small, and THEN He rose from the dead to everlasting life, and there are SOME He will take with Him. Believe! Be changed by Jesus Christ, for the better, like me! -John †
jconant3 7 months ago
Does this man love Jesus enough to blow him? I doubt it. Cuz he's a phony Christian.
GohModley 11 months ago
Mr. Strobel you're a liar and an idiot. There's no evidence magic Jesus existed.
bigboy45454545 1 year ago
So, someone can talk for 7 min about the alleged messiah and not say a damn thing? He is going for the wow factor with numbers and stuff! He seems real impressed (and is betting you are too) that one part of a Bronze Age book proves another part of the same book, by the way, Jack and the Beanstalk does this!
Infidelisification 1 year ago
Even if these odds are real it still proves nothing. It's very clear: the gospel authors who knew about these prophecies manipulated information so that it would seem that it all matches up. Unless you start by assuming that the biblical account is real then all these probabilities fall flat.
Nocturnalux 2 years ago
John 5:30 "I can do nothing of my own"
John 5:37 "And the father who sent me has himself testified on my behalf. You have never heard his voice or seen his form"
How can you then claim Jesus is god as many people saw him.
You are not reading the bible; you accept what you hear in church and do not read the bible yourself. The bible has lots of facts inside it and if you read it yourself you will recognise the truth.
The truth stands for itself.
rumanmiah 2 years ago
Those who say jesus is not the messiah please read 1john 3:22-23. thanks
scope03girl 2 years ago
good investment! alas, people that truly follows the path that jesus followed, mother mary followed are close to none.
to be more specific, i dont see anyone that is portrayed as 'jesus' or 'mother mary' in any movie is to be found on earth.
pkpkchati 3 years ago
Great Video!
Medai7 3 years ago
phillipians 2:9,
mathew 28:18;
revelation 1;1
who gives power , authority, revelations?
and why, does the recepient not already have them?
1 cor 15:28
john 14:28 can you answer these 2 questions straight forward?
cadacualsabe 3 years ago
Great video!
galadriel1995 3 years ago
thanx
al147316 3 years ago
Ok?
May I ask you two simple question of YES & NO answer?
Can you believe that God is a maggot, worm, and unpure? Y/N
If God is a maggot, worm, and unpure. Will you worrship that God? Y/N
Just answer Yes or No. is very simple.
Kite207 3 years ago
No
and
No
AaronM144000 3 years ago
JOB 25 (NIV)
4 How then can a man be righteous before God? How can one born of woman be pure?
5 If even the moon is not bright and the stars are not pure in his eyes,
6 how much less man, who is but a maggot— a son of man, who is only a worm!"
That means Christian God is a maggot because he became a man.
Christian God is a worm because he became the son of man.
Christian God is also unpure because he is born from a women.
Kite207 3 years ago
one problem it says a son a man he had no earthly father and the bible says very clear he is sinless
al147316 3 years ago
The book of Job is a narrative so if you look into the context it is Bildad the Shuhite who is speaking.
Read Job 25:1. Let God be found true and every man a liar. Nice try Kite207...
AaronM144000 3 years ago
You've taken that passage of Job out of context...
Brightstar27 2 years ago
So the sun doesn't rise and set? How moronic. Job describes the earth like a womb. Sounds pretty round to me. You are grasping at straws here.
tongsau 3 years ago
Jeremiah says that his life would model Joseph and Isaac from Genesis. Taken to the mount to be sacrificed (Isaac). Wrongly imprisonned with 2 others and raised to be seated at the right hand of the King(Joseph). Passed out the blessing to the second born (Born again) as an old man (Isaac). There are too many coinincedences in these two men with the Messiah. Or worse, Dan. tells us the date of arrival; Only Jesus came on that date.
tongsau 3 years ago
Ecclessiastes is FROM the torah! Do you not know the torah? Ecclessiastes, like many other parts of the torah, is also poetic, therefore it is not going to be science-politically correct if interpreted as a science lecture!
okebaram 3 years ago
"Jewish prophecy" is only correct, and is only trully Jewish prophecy, when it is based on the inspired word of God, not the traditional beliefs of some Jews.
okebaram 3 years ago
Well, you've just shown how illiterate you are of the torah. I am quoting directly from the torah, which is qhat should be considered the true Jewish prophecy, but you are speaking of Jewish tradition based on ignorance of Jewish prophecy. The Old Testament in the bible is the torah, so get it straight. I quoted Isaiah from the torah, bring out your torah and compare what has been quoted!
okebaram 3 years ago
Isaiah 53: 9-10: He was assigned a grave with the wicked,and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence,nor was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
02joseph02, I can stop at these 2 verses, but if u push it, there are hundreds more that promised the Messiah would die
okebaram 3 years ago
Isaiah 53:12: Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,and he will divide the spoils with the strong,because he poured out his life unto death,and was numbered with the transgressors.For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
okebaram 3 years ago
show me that sripsure then
al147316 3 years ago
yes in the old testament it did and it for told that not one bone would be broken on hes body
al147316 3 years ago
yes it was it was fortold befor he came that it was going to happern
al147316 3 years ago
Allah is A God of Adam ,Noah,Abraham,Lot,Ishmael,Danial,
Isaac,Jacob,Joseph,Jonah,Job,
Moses, Aaron,David,Solomon,Elias, Zachariah,John the Baptist,Jesus
Muhammad (peace be upon them).
And All muslim on the world...
haticlassic 3 years ago
he is a moon god thow isnt he
al147316 3 years ago
THE HOLY QURAN
1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
4. And there is none like unto Him.
Surah 112. Al-Ikhlas
(The Unity, Sincerity, Oneness Of Allah)
haticlassic 3 years ago
he is a moon god thats why you have a cresent moon over all you r temples
al147316 3 years ago
@haticlassic That's great and all, but why did you post that? Is that your proof?
stigoblogg 1 month ago
LoL, nope, I believe with reason. At least I don't blindly believe everything in a science book even though it's fake =D
blueslayzler 3 years ago
Thanks, you're still ignorant =D
blueslayzler 3 years ago
You've never* my mistake =D
blueslayzler 3 years ago
XD Like I said, I'm not insulting you. And I can tell just by the low class way you act that you've been to college and that would be the desperate position that I'm talking about ;P
blueslayzler 3 years ago
LoL, I'm not insulting you, I'm just simply stating your desperate position
blueslayzler 3 years ago
Jesus is Lord and He is coming for his church very soon; Praise God!
GratefulChristian 3 years ago
Don't forget that you're uneducated too ;D
blueslayzler 3 years ago
And you're still ignorant and uneducated :P
blueslayzler 3 years ago
Well that does prove that God doesn't exist. XD
.l.
blueslayzler 3 years ago
Doesn't matter what Catholics are. They don't disprove God.
XD
And you show how uneducated you are by using red herrings in your argument.
Go to school you unlearned dunce
blueslayzler 3 years ago
Doesn't matter if you're American. Doesn't matter if Catholics are Christian(which they're not). Anyone can commit mass killings. Not just Catholics. XD.
blueslayzler 3 years ago
Anyone of any religion is capable of mass murder. You atheist Americans have killed over 40 million babies from abortion. Atheist China killed over 100 million live babies during martial law. Muslims killed 80 million Hindus over the past 100 years. Atheist Stalin starved millions of people in Russia. Anyone can do mass killings, it's not just CHristians
blueslayzler 3 years ago
And you're just ignorant. Saying that Catholics are Christians is like saying Hindus are Taoists. They don't have the same rules, and they don't follow the same thing. Get get an education you ignorant dunce
blueslayzler 3 years ago
You must be really uneducated, Catholic rules are based on the Pope, no the Bible
XD
blueslayzler 3 years ago
Any man, of any religion is capable of killing mass millions of people. Atheist Chinese killed millions of babies during their martial law population control. Stalin killed millions of people during communist Russia. Secular Humanism killed millions of babies during the abortion revolution. The muslims killed 80 million Hindus in the span of the 20th century. Anyone can do that, don't just single us out. And that's a red herring too, just because it happened, doesn't make God false
blueslayzler 3 years ago
The crusades were Catholic, they are not Christian and admit already that they don't adhere to the BIble
blueslayzler 3 years ago
Of course you would say that, you're atheist, therefore you have no standard of morals, and you can act as barbaric as you want, but I'll still pray for you, no matter how childish and immature you are
blueslayzler 3 years ago
And you're ignorant for believing that life miraculously came together from some big accident
blueslayzler 3 years ago
No, because you're immature, uneducated and ignorant
blueslayzler 3 years ago
why
al147316 3 years ago
What Paul was saying in Rom 8:11, was simply trying to make us realize that if we follow this same path of Christ, We can become immortals. JESUS set the pace for us to follow. I'm afraid u have no point overseasmedia. There are overwhelming testimonies upon this name that you can't refute. We have gone 2 far to turn back at this point. I know many people's believes have been twarted & they had to turn back after realizing they were heading to wrong path. u need to try harder! g'luck!
shalom!
passionate4Christ 3 years ago
what is your point overseasmedia. What do you really want to discover in this forum. What do you really want to achieve after all this? do you want to deviate people into or lure them away from their believes? ponder John 10:17-18. No man earth has ever made such a statement but for this lone man. HE said it, & HE did it. When HE ressurected, many saw HIM though his body was transformed into immortal being. Better still ponder Rom 8:11. There's a Spirit of imortality in everybody.
passionate4Christ 3 years ago
If you say you are a Christian overseasmedia, why restle with other christians then. You are not explicite in professing your faith. I agree we need more light but is the the only forum for you to enlighten about who is JESUS? You have been so negetive towards christianity & yet u denote yourself as a Christian. So, what's your point? I have decided to take that risk, even if it were false, it's my decision to follow Christ passinately till the end.
shalom!
passionate4Christ 3 years ago
passionate4Christ:I do not restle the true Christianity, I do challenge the flase assumptions of people. BTW, I asked the questions no one answered, because they simply are unaware of "what they believe in". That does NOT represent the Christianity very well from my point of view. Moreover, your perception of Chist is dangerous, because it's wrong. Shalom.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Praise be the Lord!
thank you for sharing
carmen286 3 years ago
your welcome . god bless
al147316 3 years ago
I've seen this guy speak at Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington Illinois... he's good
newbeginningschapel 3 years ago
his name is Lee Strobel
newbeginningschapel 3 years ago
Overseasmedia: God hasn't denied us to use all our senses to it fullness. God has not limited us to use much more than this. We have limited ourselves just as we(Adam & Eve) decided to bring sin into the World. It must a reciprocal thing, a give & take & vice versa. JESUS said, "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatsoever ye will, and it shall be done unto you." John 15:7. In HIS human form, HE kept abiding to the FATHER. This is what it takes.
shalom!
passionate4Christ 3 years ago
passionate4Christ: Tha's very true. We're limiting ourselves, and we should ask ourselves what makes us put impose these limitations upon us? Is that a fear, a doubt or guilt? Jesus said: "Nothing coming from outside could make you "unclean" but what's within you makes you unclean". What did he mean?
overseasmedia 3 years ago
passionate4Christ: #2 Jesus meant to look for the "cause" inside you, not "outside", for nothing "outside yourself" could make you create NEGATIVE VIBRATION (i.e. FEEL BAD, e.g. a SINNER) I think Adam and Eve had already paid for their mistake and that was fair enough to forget about what they did, especially when they have been flooded by All Mighty long time ago.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
contd- It was part of His plan. God knew that satan would enter a serpent and tempt Eve. He knew even before He created the universe, that He was going to have to come down to His creation and die for it.
But you know what os? I could try to explain all this to you in terms that a 5 year old would understand and you still wouldn't get it. You know why? Because the cross is foolish to you. It's foolish to everyone who does not know Christ.
Seek Him and your eyes will be opened.
RaptureMe2 3 years ago
John 4:25 says "The women said to Him,I know that Messiah is coming ,He Who is called the Christ ,the Anointed One,and when He arrives He will tell us everything we need to know and make it clear to us. Jesus said to her,I Who am now speaking with you am He."
JESUS IS THE MESSIAH.
forJesusalone 3 years ago
what are you all excited about, I can't figure it out. I get so excited with that math. the way you say trillion so many times I'm convinced. hallelujah
Why do those palestines blow themselves up, I guess their life must be worthless.
mutedmajority 3 years ago
Jesus Is Lord!
coppertop1964 3 years ago
The Torah also states: "God did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us -- who are all here alive today." (Deut. 5:3)
Judaism is not miracles. It is the personal eyewitness experience of every man, woman and child, standing at Mount Sinai 3,300 years ago!
overseasmedia 3 years ago
PS: In fact, the Bible says that God sometimes grants the power of "miracles" to charlatans, in order to test Jewish loyalty to the Torah (Deut. 13:4) Don't you know that?
overseasmedia 3 years ago
4)JEWISH BELIEF IS BASED SOLELY ON NATIONAL REVELATION:Of the 15,000 religions in human history, only Judaism bases its belief on national revelation i.e. God speaking to the entire nation. If God is going to start a religion, it makes sense He'll tell everyone, not just one person. Judaism, unique among all of the world's major religions, does not rely on "claims of miracles" as the basis for its religion.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Ironically, Isaiah's prophecies of persecution refer in part to the 11th century when Jews were tortured and killed by Crusaders who acted in the name of Jesus. From where did these mistranslations stem? St. Gregory, 4th century Bishop of Nanianzus, wrote: "A little jargon is all that is necessary to impose on the people. The less they comprehend, the more they admire."
overseasmedia 3 years ago
C."SUFFERING SERVANT"Christianity claims that Isaiah chapter 53 refers to Jesus, as the "suffering servant." In actuality Isaiah 53 directly follows the theme of chapter 52, describing the exile and redemption of the Jewish people.The prophecies are written in the singular form because the Jews ("Israel") are regarded as ONE UNIT! Torah is filled with examples of the Jewish nation referred to with a singular pronoun.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
B. CRUCIFIXION amd "LION" mistranslation:
The verse in Psalms 22:17 reads: "Like a lion, they are at my hands and feet." The Hebrew word ki-ari (like a lion) is grammatically similar to the word "gouged." Thus Christianity reads the verse as a reference to crucifixion: "They pierced my hands and feet." So calm down, the Jewish messiah shouldn't be "pierced"!
overseasmedia 3 years ago
A (virgin birth) The word "alma" has always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries later and translated it "virgin." This accords Jesus' birth with the I ACE pagan idea of mortals being impregnated by gods.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
3) MISTRANSLATED VERSES "REFERRING" TO JESUS:
Biblical verses can only be understood by studying the original Hebrew text, which reveals many discrepancies in the Christian translation. A. VIRGIN BIRTH: Christian idea of a "virgin birth" is derived from the verse in Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
C. TORAH OBSERVANCE: The Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The Torah states that all mitzvot remain binding forever, and anyone coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4) Throughout the Bible contradicts the Torah and states that its commandments are no longer applicable.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
B.The Messiah must be descended on his father's side from King David (see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1). According to the Christian claim that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth (Mary&Pigeon) he had nothing to do with King David and failed to fulfill the messianic requirement of being descended on his father's side from King David!
overseasmedia 3 years ago
2) JESUS DID NOT EMBODY THE PERSONAL QUALIFICATIONS OF MESSIAH AS PROPHET:Jesus was not a prophet. Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the land is inhabited by a majority of world Jewry. During the time of Ezra (circa 300 BCE), when the majority of Jews refused to move from Babylon to Israel, prophecy ended upon the death of the last prophets -- Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.
Jesus appeared on the scene approximately 350 years after prophecy had ended.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Well OS, since you obviously have a Bible, why don't you keep reading Genesis till it sinks in. In my opinion, you don't have to know Christ to be able to understand Genesis, it's too plain and simple already.
The whole Garden of Eden incident, it WAS a test. God could have created a bunch of robots programmed to love Him, but where's the Glory in that?
He gave man free choice. God cannot be blammed for something that man did. cont-
RaptureMe2 3 years ago
D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world -- on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9)
The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled NONE of these messianic prophecies.
Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming, but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright, and no concept of a second coming exists.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
1) JESUS DID NOT FULFILL THE MESSIANIC PROPHECIES.What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he will:
A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28)
B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6)
C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
overseasmedia 3 years ago
science also says, we use only 5% of our brain therefore confirming the scripture written in Luke 17:5-10, rd v10 again. This exactly what science is also proving. We shud not limit ourselves to what we know for there's a greater source out there & if we can just elevate our brains to go beyond just 5%, we will be marvelled by the astounding results. JESUS used 100% of his brain to do what HE had to do. Do i make sense?
passionate4Christ 3 years ago
passionate4Christ: I see you know what percentage of the human brain is actually "active", yes, they say smth like 5%, but on't you think we're limited because the God wants us to use only 5% of brain? And how do you know what Jesus "used" and what he finally did? No one does know.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
science can explain how perfectly our DNA works but above that... why can't they explain how did they(DNA) come to work so perfectly well. What gives they(scientists) the idea to think to come out with such conclusions? they too r humans & only came & met thinx perfect arranged & we might create some thinx but we shud never limit ourselves to just what we know becuz there's always more.
passionate4Christ 3 years ago
you all can argue as much as you wish there's one thing none of u can refute is The fact that your/our existence was perfectly conceived. or maybe u wish your heads were in between your feet... it's a posibity, i an't kidding. How come u need a nose,mouth,ear,eyez... u name it to be complete? there's always more. There must be a masterpiece behind our existence.
passionate4Christ 3 years ago
****So yeah, you COULD ARRANGE ANYTHING*** -- oh yeah over 200 yrs? No LOL hehe
Mystwicca 3 years ago
Yes Jesus did manuver his life in such a way... i mean those who worte that bullshit created the story of "fullfillment of the prophecies". So yeah, you COULD ARRANGE ANYTHING!!! The time, the date, the birth the death. All you need is just to have the OT with its "prophecies" in front of your eyes, isn't it clear?
vidmaster75 3 years ago
What a dumb video. How can you prove something that is based on so called prophecies it's so pathetic. And the name of the Messiah was not Jesus anyway.
vidmaster75 3 years ago
Very Good Video!!
God Bless!!
TAXtheAtheist 3 years ago
I agree with everything that "passionate4Christ" said and I rest my case.
God bless our hearts and minds. Amen.
FIDESetRATIOihtys 3 years ago
against all odds, i will take the risk to invest in it. only the end will prove me wrong. we all must believe in something... I believe JESUS was/is/will be the Messiah for all ages to come.
thanx for sharing
shalom!
passionate4Christ 3 years ago
passion4Christ: That's OK to believe anything we want to believe, but could anyone explain what does "The Messiah" mean? No, please don't tell me to do a "google" search, try to xplain it in your own words...
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Jesus is the Messiah and He is Lord of all and every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is indeed Lord and Saviour. Love your video!!!!
morning2004 3 years ago
morning2004, bow your own knees if you wish. I will pray my Father toforgive your sillingness for thy don't know what ou say!
scubazmei 3 years ago
morning2004 : Did Jesus sy that???!!! Did he ask to "bow"??! Did he ask you to be worshiped?!!! WHERE YOU MORON HE SAID THAT?!!!
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Overseasmedia, a-ga! You were swearing! You insulted a person and you said you were the Christian................!
scubazmei 3 years ago
was he?
vidmaster75 3 years ago
vidmaster75 said, ''sightuponlight! This people do not know what they are talking about. They have never read the bible. So they don't understand what do you man by 'lost sheeps'.They are unaware of what jesus said...''
Bro, I totally agree with u.
Sight.
sightuponlight 3 years ago
Morning2004 I am very sory but he was not the Lord and the Savior; more likely he was the teacher
quelindaes 3 years ago
Gnostic videos are much more interesting, at least they do not insult a human intelligence that fr "some unknown reason" was given upon us by he Lord our God (not sure his name was Jesus) but who cares?
overseasmedia 3 years ago
The Gosples were written (presumably in Alexandria, we will know it in year, when they tranlate Codex Sinaiticus) in the end of the I beginning of the II ACE. The "Jesus" story is described in Jewish Talmud (appr. II-I BCE) as "Sepher Toldoth Jeschu".
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Pure and sheer idiotic attitude. Jesus is NOT a "Messiah" (messiah is a JEWISH WORD, you got it?) No one gives shit about those "prophecies", since they were written by Jews and the Jews are the one to judge who is THEIR MESSIAH. read what they say about Jesus. Try "Contra Celsum" (Celsum statements why esus was NOT a Messiah)
overseasmedia 3 years ago
And you were right! Thre are still attidude toward jesus being a messiah. You say: 'how it could be arranged that Jesus was born EXACTY AT THE TIME PREDICTED'? and i ask you 'how it coul be arranged that his time of birth e stupid gospels was 'predicted' before these insane 'gospels' appeared? Isn't it clear they just looked into the prophecies and tried to 'match them'?
vidmaster75 3 years ago
Your replays are so ignorant I*m sorry to say.
Marana*tha or Come, Lord Jesus is from
Revelation Chapter 22
20 He that giveth testimony of these things, saith: Surely, I come quickly: Amen. Come, Lord Jesus. 21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
p.s. You keeping the name of our Lord Jesus with small character is disrespectful! But you dont seem to care, so...
FIDESetRATIOihtys 3 years ago
Esmial??????? Thats not ever in My Bible and Ive got 5 versions.........LOL HAHAHAAAA lol
Mystwicca 3 years ago
Mystwicca: Then why did you choose "Jesus" from these 5 versions???!!!!!
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Mystwicca: And who told you that Jesus is "a KING"? His father was a PIGEON (Holy Spirit) Joseph was NOT Jesus's father. And Joseph originated from King David, not Mary and not (sorry) the Pigion! What Josesph has to do with Jesus's birth?
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Mystiwicca The name of the Messiah is mentioned in the Old Testament not in bible.
vidmaster75 3 years ago
Mystwicca: Sorry, mate, I got confused, I thought you meant Old Testament not the New Testament.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Yes! Jesus Christ is The Messiah!
Come, Lord Jesus!
Amen.
p.s. I still dont understand why Jesus is not with an capital *J* in your title. That is wrong! Your replay does not explain.
FIDESetRATIOihtys 3 years ago
FIDESetRATIOihtys, What do you mean when you say "come"??? It sounds like a cheap porn!"Oh, cum!" What happens id "Jesus comes"? Ho do you know he hasn't "come yet"?
scubazmei 3 years ago
FIDESetRATIOihtys: What an incredible stupidity. How do you expect to "see his coming",Bro?!! You see it every morning for Christ sake!
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Let me just tell you it was HE who saved me from Satan outright.............easily........so until you experience that yourselof you may never know , although.........Blessed is He who believes and has NOT Seen......but believes :)
Mystwicca 3 years ago
Mystwicca, Tell me... How he saved you from Satan? And who is Satan? Do you practice "wiccan" stuff, something like "voo-doo"?
scubazmei 3 years ago
Mysticwicca: How did you recognize that "was he" or Jesus. What if that was Judas Galileo or John the Baptist, or James the Just? Did he introduce himself, how did look like, OK? And what the satan had to do with you?
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Eye witnesses btw for all of those facts........anything else?
Mystwicca 3 years ago
Mysticwicca, who were the eye 'witness'. oh Mystic Wicca? Don't you know there was NO ONE eyewitnessing Jesus? Why don't you read? This t was admitted b the church, they agree that none of the gospels writers "eyewtinessed Jesus". Because there was "no Jesus". At the time the Gospels story-makers lived.
scubazmei 3 years ago
Ok lets spell it out...........Old testament says Where, when, how messiah would be born including bloodline.........and where, when and how hed be killed and ressurected for our sins......and all 7 were fulfilled......and that only mentions a FEW :)
Mystwicca 3 years ago
Mystwicca, Read Origen "Contra Celsus" (if you don't know who Origen was: Chistian apologetic writer) where Celsus makes it clear for everyone 'why Jesus was not a Messiah', you will find it interesting!
scubazmei 3 years ago
Jesus failed in ZERO Of the Biblical Prophecies lol..........who is it you are listening to hun? lol.......
Mystwicca 3 years ago
Mysticwicca: HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He failed ALL the prophecies! Just all of them!First of all HIS NAME WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ESMAIL. That's WHY he was never accepted nor he will ever be "accepted" by Jew, my dear!
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Jesus IS THe WORD and The WORD was with GOD, upon the Creation of this Earth :) This Is Biblical though Im not referencing that book to tell you The TRUTH :)
Mystwicca 3 years ago
Mysticwicca: Oh, my Goodness, stop this bullshit please. You lips "worship thy Lord God, but your Heart is far away from him". Does your hear tells you the "Bible is the TRUTH"? Great! Why did Herod who was supposed to massacre Jesus died 4 years BEFORE JESUS WAS BORN? TRUTH! RIDICULOUS STUPIDITYcannot be truth.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
There are multiple verses which state Jesus IS The Creator......they are ONE :) The Father, The Sone and The Spirit ARE ONE :) If you dont know this, You need to read the Bible abit more maybe OR.........ask GOD Himself and HE WILL Tell You :)
Mystwicca 3 years ago
Mysticwicca: But being honest, dearest Wicca, and putting you hand to your heart can you claim that you UNDERSTAND the meaning of what you have just said? You NEED to READ a BIble MORE, to UNDERSTAND it's alegories without taking it "literally"! (like the pharisees did)
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Mysticwicca: You're so funny, Mistwicca!You say: "The Father, The Son and the Spirit is One". Now tell me who's the "father", who' the "spirit" and who is the "son", do you have any clue?
overseasmedia 3 years ago
elderhnry, True message of 'what'?
scubazmei 3 years ago
Bless you, whatiswhatwillbe :)
Mystwicca 3 years ago
There is NO Question, at all, of Who Jesus Is :)
Mystwicca 3 years ago
Mystwicca, And? Who Jesus was??!
scubazmei 3 years ago
Mystwicca, So.. WHO HE IS??!
scubazmei 3 years ago
scubazemi: Eli, Eli,llama saphachtani? Don't argue with these morons. Their point of view doesn't matter as they "hae the eyes but don't see ad they h the ears but don't listen".
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Mystwicca: regarding the "eyewitnesses": YOU ARE TERRIBLY WRONG. They was NO people (writings) who "eye witnessed" Jesus. Jesus is NOT a historical person, thus he can't have "eye-wtinesses".
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Mystwicca: I see you didn't reply the question. So questio #1:
1) who "WAS JESUS"?
2) what does "Messiah" mean?
3) why there is no historical evidence of Jesus?
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Jesus is the Elohim- he is the beggining and the end. The end meaninng this world. His spirit hovered over this planit while it was being created- He is the and our creator.
This is powerful, when I let go of the reins and asked Jesus to take over, I had no idea that not only my struggle with druds and alcohol would be removed, but everything distructive to my soul was removed and I felt his spirit come over me and filled my heart and life full of joy.
Thats how I know hes the Messiah
whatiswhatwillbe 3 years ago
whatiswhatwillbe, Elohim, my dear, is the plural for the "Eli" - "God" in Hebrew. If Jesus was a "Creator", there would be no need for him to hang himself on that stupid cross. You have no idea what does Messiah mean how can you talk about Jesus being a Messiah?
scubazmei 3 years ago
I kow who God is Do you?
whatiswhatwillbe 3 years ago
Whatiswhatwillbe, I have an idea of what the 'God' is. I'm afraid we have different perceptions of God. But it's OK.
scubazmei 3 years ago
Do you want other people to recognize Jesus, to respect Jesus, to admire Jesus, to love him, do you want them to understand Jesus?
overseasmedia 3 years ago
I am glad to hear that- I only believe that people take God for granted- Most poeple think God is only there to get them out of trouble as if he is only a partying buddy.
He dosent get the respect he deserves.
Most Christians think that only the new testament pertains to them and not the old meaning the Tora Jesus did say he did not come to abolish the old testament, but to complete it.
I apologize for my negative thoughts of you Overseasmedia.
whatiswhatwillbe 3 years ago
By the way- If you are a follower of Jesus Christ then you are a deciple of his.
I have to say that I am a deciple of his.
A deciple makes deciples
whatiswhatwillbe 3 years ago
No, I don't think so. I am not his disciple... I need my Teacher, I need my Master here and now, I miss him. I'm glad that at least I am trying to undertand clearly what did he want to tell us.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
whatiswhatwillbe: I have replied your mail,and sent it to you, please let me know if you received it.I am at the remote place at the moment, and satellite internet connection plays up. There is nothing to apologize for, honestly, I have a great pleasure talking to you.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
overseasmedia:
Thanks for the explanation
and for being gracious
whatiswhatwillbe 3 years ago
whatiswhatwillbe: Well,that's because people are very selfish and ignorant, everything they bother about are their egoistical desires. It seems their nature didn't change much, 2000 years ago, instead of taking a unique opportunity to talk with Jesus and learn the truth, the crowds were chasing him asking "for another miracle".
overseasmedia 3 years ago
whatiswhatwillbe: Oh Dear! The "beginning and the end" of the "world", do you know what you're talking about? When you were "full of JOY"? Watching Mel Gibson's Passion of Christ" movie? How on Earth you can be "full of Joy" seeing a brutally murdered man? Are you a pervert?
overseasmedia 3 years ago
I am full of joy becuase Jesus lives in me
Do you have him in you?
whatiswhatwillbe 3 years ago
Whatiswhatwillbe, how does Jesus 'lives in you'? What do you understand about Jesus to 'havem in you' you should know and undstanding teaching. Do you understand what Jesus's teaching was all about? Please tell me, what did Jesus teach 'us'?
scubazmei 3 years ago
whatiswhatwillbe: Well,I sincerely hope you feel OK with Jesus leaving inside you. I also hope he feels fine too. I can't answer your question because I have no clue what "Jesus" you are talking about. I don't know how do you perceive that "Jesus".
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Why is it that people like you have a problem with how somones life is changed in a miraculas way through the acceptance of Jesus Christ- is there somthing you are afraid of? If you dont know the Jesus I am speaking of and I think you do- then my hopes are that you locate him.
My question was a retorical question.
whatiswhatwillbe 3 years ago
whatiswhatwillbe: Oh, My Goodness! Why do you think "I have problems or I should be afraid of someone's life and its miracles"? I'm a producer, involved into making a documentary "The Quest for Christ". Sorry, I was just looking for intelligent and interesting people I could interview for the documentary.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
There is no need for a documentary about the quest for Christ- He is all around us and in us if we let him.
There is already plenty of word from Adonia Elohim written in Gods word read the Tanakh and also B'rit Hadashah which will help you more in your quest for Jesus Christ.
Christ means Messiah.
whatiswhatwillbe 3 years ago
whatiswhatwillbe: And I have a different point of view. As I saw many people leaving their "Elohims and Adonais" since they're all "outworn" dogmas, that do not serve people any good. I don't care what the slaves think "the Christ is" I KNOW IT.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
overseasmedia-You dont know what the Christ is- you have no respect for the Lord God Almighty- and you let the serpent speak through you.
You will soon know who the Messiah is in the very near future.
You are a slave to the world.
I pray for poeple like you to open your eyes to the truth.
May you find him soon.
Good luck Sir or Madam
whatiswhatwillbe 3 years ago
whatiswhatwillbe: Really? What makes you think I don't "know what the Christ is", but you do?! What makes you judge me as having disrespect for All-Mighty God? I have my persona relationship with Allmighty since I was 5 years old. And I am sure that you never had and will never have any idea of what I mean since you neither enough intellect nor education or scholarship to judge me.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
whatiswhatwillbe: If you failed to answer my questions it means that YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, not me. And pushing me away because of your failure doesn't resovle but creates a problem. Think about it. My warmest regards.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
See how powerful The Lord Jesus Christ is?- he has YOU spending all this time acknowledging him
whatiswhatwillbe 3 years ago
whatiswhatwillbe: Ha-ha-ha! You're a very funny person, "Whatiswhatwillbe"! I love that comment. Yes, Jesus is very powerful indeed. I personally don't have any doubts in his power. I would love to be one of his disciples.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Yes very funny- So tell me what is your beliefs? Are you Judaism, are you a follower of Yesuha the Messiah? are you Islamic?
You never professed your beliefs
All you seem to do is negativly contradict others who believe in Jesus Christ.
You talk in disrespect to the names of God.
So what are you? my Friend
whatiswhatwillbe 3 years ago
Sorry if I made such a bad impression, but as you remember Jesus negatively contradicted Pharisees and even called them the "vipers", not to mention the mess Jesus created in the Temple, you have to agree that at least I was polite and didn't call anyone "vipers" (lol) I am a Christian. Please forgive me if I sounded rude, that I don't disrepect God but I strongly disrespect some of the people's believes and false assumptions.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Jesus negatively placed them for what they really were - he knew all about them even without talking to them- he knew them by thrier thoughts
whatiswhatwillbe 3 years ago
whatiswhatwillbe: That's very true. For it is the thought (not the words, nor the outer behavior) that makes you "good" or "bad", and by their thoughts the people should be and will be judged.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
whatiswhatwillbe: I just challenge people's assumptions, not their Faith in God, because personally I think that their false assumtions are very dangerous since they turn people away of the Christianity and lead them into the darkness of "blind faith". Do you remember what Jesus said about "the blind leading another blind"?
overseasmedia 3 years ago
whatiswhatwillbe you are susly delusioned and it may be dangerous for others to listen to you how you can say jesus is a creator when he died on the corss.the creator dosen't die it does have eternal life bullshit man!!!!
vidmaster75 3 years ago
Obviously you dont know him- if you did you wouldnt be delusioned vidmaster 75
whatiswhatwillbe 3 years ago
Whatiswhatwillbe, why you think anyone who feels differently are delusioned? And they see you as 'a delusioned one'. And you are indeed delusioned because you don't understand the teaching of Jesus.
scubazmei 3 years ago
Thanks for sharing
jetroavery08 3 years ago