I hit that strip every time I round that corner. Everyone does I've never crashed on that turn but spun real good on the next one once. Stuff happens. Track day has it's risks. I got hit by an idiot on a no-passing warm up lap once.
As my daddy used to say; "You pays yer Nickel and takes yer Chance..."
hm...i think you all should Shut The F.... Up ! we are all smart when the case isnt about us and watching over the screen is really easy against of sitting in that car ...F...... Noobs .
and to the owner i would say I'm REALY SORRY mate, you need to just let go, Shit happens... and practice makes perfect !
@01Z06guy "should be avoided" as in ideally, you do not want to run over curbs. And you are right, if the benefit of a slightly faster line requiring running over a curb that upsets the car is greater than the negative gain of upsetting the car and not having as much traction as you could if you didnt hit a curb in the first place, then yes a driver will use the curbs to shave time.
He either let off the clutch too hard on his shift or lost it on the curb it is too hard to tell
@XxWICKEDSSxX Hallett is a track that has very forgiving curbs. Not using this is just making the track narrower.
The track on this particular day was damp, and the driver was following a line that had been repeated lap after lap after lap in the previous sessions.
There was a period of about 2-3 years back when this video was shot (way before the 2010 upload) where Hallett was eating M3s and Vipers.
To the grandpa in his Z06, you trash your Vette at a race track and see how well you take it.
Yeah nothing like the feeling of crashing your bmw. I did it once but my crash wasn't that bad. All I needed was a new front bumper cover. But the feeling you have when it happens, ahhh, so shitty.
Need to be quicker with the steering bro.... it could have just ended in sliding down the track instead of into the grass. Also how do you crash at like 45 mph? lol.
Man, everybody here will try teach you how to drive, just don't listen to them, they are Renault drivers/Internet jerk-offs that the only time they passed the 60 Mph limit was in some Need for Speed game. I also have a BMW M3 E36, Artiksilber, but the 3.0 246 bhp american edition (not sure what's yours, though we share the same steering wheel so I take yours must be the same)... and I too crashed it on a winding road last weekend. My crash was somewhat similar (2 be continued)
@Siegfried405 - (continues) I took a turn to the right, the turn had some inclination that would disappear towards the mid of the turn and at that point I lost the rear axle and started sliding. I made a different mistake: I tried to recover the car the same way you did but when I couldn't I kept turning outwards so I slided the other way and hit a roadside dirt pile. I didn't flip the car and at that point was going much slower than you did in your crash (continues)
@Siegfried405 but HEY!!! HOW DO YOU WANT TO CRASH YOUR M3? On a winding road or a circuit, going fast, turning hard and driving the car as the car should be driven? Or in a stupid junction doing 30 mph? You like boxing, you're gonna eat a punch or two. You like driving, you'll have a "fuori pista" or two. Shit happens man, and this car is specially unforgiving; Zero body-roll, it doesn't squeak tires, you just have it and in the next second you lost it. It's binary (continues)
@Siegfried405 and the limited slip diff is also tricky. Don't feel bad; happens to world-class drivers so it can happen to us. Nevermind the idiots that own a Prius and give driving lessons via youtube. What the fuck do they know anyway. Congrats for the car, the crash and showing it to the world. Be proud, fix it and hit the road again, and if for any reason you (or I) crash again, just let's try make sure we don't do it the same way we already did, so we get to learn something different :)
I feel sorry for you and your car mate, but you should sharpen your skills first... just look, when the car starts to slide, you almost didn't turned the wheel, you can't save a slide like this with so little steering input... Try in a closed carpark to do some drifting, to start to find the way to control a car when sliding. Because believe me, you will find harder situations that this one; you should be prepared
@BKingAndy - kerbs are not large at that corner (i.e., he didn't "hit" them). I think he just happened to coincide a hard 3rd gear upshift with his right rear tire riding that wet kerb. Left rear tire had more traction - game over. The warning unheeded was losing traction briefly in 2nd gear coming out of turn 2.
@efastMixer - i don't think not necessarily 2x skill req'd, but certainly caution and smoothness is rewarded when track is wet
instead of saying "oh my fuckin god" you should thank him for keeping alive over your crappy driving
Michaek33KO 6 days ago
very bad driver..embarrassing accident realy..
357magnumcz 1 week ago
gdzie kontra kurwa !!
1Shandow1 3 weeks ago 2
shifting mid corner is a no-no
pengouin85 5 months ago
I hit that strip every time I round that corner. Everyone does I've never crashed on that turn but spun real good on the next one once. Stuff happens. Track day has it's risks. I got hit by an idiot on a no-passing warm up lap once.
As my daddy used to say; "You pays yer Nickel and takes yer Chance..."
Miata822 5 months ago
hm...i think you all should Shut The F.... Up ! we are all smart when the case isnt about us and watching over the screen is really easy against of sitting in that car ...F...... Noobs .
and to the owner i would say I'm REALY SORRY mate, you need to just let go, Shit happens... and practice makes perfect !
giodemon 6 months ago
idiot.
cheafmaster85 6 months ago
The temper tantrum at the end is embarrassing. Grow up, kid.
01Z06guy 8 months ago
Curbs regardless of wet or dry are a no no... Anything that can upset the car should be avoided
XxWICKEDSSxX 8 months ago
@XxWICKEDSSxX
Wrong. Have you ever seen any real racing? They all run over the curbs all the way to Formula 1. In your mind, every F1 driver must suck, right?
01Z06guy 8 months ago
@01Z06guy "should be avoided" as in ideally, you do not want to run over curbs. And you are right, if the benefit of a slightly faster line requiring running over a curb that upsets the car is greater than the negative gain of upsetting the car and not having as much traction as you could if you didnt hit a curb in the first place, then yes a driver will use the curbs to shave time.
He either let off the clutch too hard on his shift or lost it on the curb it is too hard to tell
XxWICKEDSSxX 7 months ago
@XxWICKEDSSxX Hallett is a track that has very forgiving curbs. Not using this is just making the track narrower.
The track on this particular day was damp, and the driver was following a line that had been repeated lap after lap after lap in the previous sessions.
There was a period of about 2-3 years back when this video was shot (way before the 2010 upload) where Hallett was eating M3s and Vipers.
To the grandpa in his Z06, you trash your Vette at a race track and see how well you take it.
lowflyinsh 1 month ago
Ever heard of countersteer? I have the same car (except coupe) and I countersteer harder even on minor oversteers.
MegaRekyyli 9 months ago
Very bad driver ...
gloubibla 10 months ago
sorry but, u could have turn the wheel a little more couldn't ya???
bagredositio 11 months ago
Yeah nothing like the feeling of crashing your bmw. I did it once but my crash wasn't that bad. All I needed was a new front bumper cover. But the feeling you have when it happens, ahhh, so shitty.
LASTTOPGUN 1 year ago
this made me laugh. sorry. sucks for the car though man.
wrxKenny 1 year ago
Need to be quicker with the steering bro.... it could have just ended in sliding down the track instead of into the grass. Also how do you crash at like 45 mph? lol.
TheArfdog 1 year ago 6
@TheArfdog What are you talking about? Do you have any track experience whatsoever?
Looks to me like there wasn't much he could of done.
doogeeunit 1 year ago
Man, everybody here will try teach you how to drive, just don't listen to them, they are Renault drivers/Internet jerk-offs that the only time they passed the 60 Mph limit was in some Need for Speed game. I also have a BMW M3 E36, Artiksilber, but the 3.0 246 bhp american edition (not sure what's yours, though we share the same steering wheel so I take yours must be the same)... and I too crashed it on a winding road last weekend. My crash was somewhat similar (2 be continued)
Siegfried405 1 year ago
@Siegfried405 - (continues) I took a turn to the right, the turn had some inclination that would disappear towards the mid of the turn and at that point I lost the rear axle and started sliding. I made a different mistake: I tried to recover the car the same way you did but when I couldn't I kept turning outwards so I slided the other way and hit a roadside dirt pile. I didn't flip the car and at that point was going much slower than you did in your crash (continues)
Siegfried405 1 year ago
@Siegfried405 but HEY!!! HOW DO YOU WANT TO CRASH YOUR M3? On a winding road or a circuit, going fast, turning hard and driving the car as the car should be driven? Or in a stupid junction doing 30 mph? You like boxing, you're gonna eat a punch or two. You like driving, you'll have a "fuori pista" or two. Shit happens man, and this car is specially unforgiving; Zero body-roll, it doesn't squeak tires, you just have it and in the next second you lost it. It's binary (continues)
Siegfried405 1 year ago
@Siegfried405 and the limited slip diff is also tricky. Don't feel bad; happens to world-class drivers so it can happen to us. Nevermind the idiots that own a Prius and give driving lessons via youtube. What the fuck do they know anyway. Congrats for the car, the crash and showing it to the world. Be proud, fix it and hit the road again, and if for any reason you (or I) crash again, just let's try make sure we don't do it the same way we already did, so we get to learn something different :)
Siegfried405 1 year ago
I feel sorry for you and your car mate, but you should sharpen your skills first... just look, when the car starts to slide, you almost didn't turned the wheel, you can't save a slide like this with so little steering input... Try in a closed carpark to do some drifting, to start to find the way to control a car when sliding. Because believe me, you will find harder situations that this one; you should be prepared
weed46 1 year ago
@BKingAndy - kerbs are not large at that corner (i.e., he didn't "hit" them). I think he just happened to coincide a hard 3rd gear upshift with his right rear tire riding that wet kerb. Left rear tire had more traction - game over. The warning unheeded was losing traction briefly in 2nd gear coming out of turn 2.
@efastMixer - i don't think not necessarily 2x skill req'd, but certainly caution and smoothness is rewarded when track is wet
miata405 1 year ago
@miata405 Forgot to add - sorry to driver for an unfortunate result, it was a hard bite to take for a pretty small mistake. Tough breaks.
miata405 1 year ago
wet tracks requires a different kind of skill, it requires 2x the normal race track skill level
efastMixer 1 year ago
he hit the curbs and lost control
BKingAndy 1 year ago
DId I hear something break before the spin, or did he just lose it and get on the wet grass?
triboy46 1 year ago
@triboy46 No breaks, just wet track/grass.
Mike01Hawk 1 year ago