Good info here. I've been doing electronics since I was a little kid and still do it, but I had no idea you could do this by hand. Most of the times I try to resolder some chips on defective PCBs just to make sure there's no cold joint, I join together by accident 2 or 3 pins and have to use the solder pump to get rid of the excess solder.
Isn't it just awful ! It is the "suicidal' lead we have been using since the very beginning of soldering technology history, which has led to the greatest evolution in technological advancements of high reliability interconnections, for Class 3 High Performance Electronic Products.
STC is a specialist in lead-free applications using SAC 305 (silver), SN100C (Nickel) and SN 100E (Cobalt). I make it wet like a tin/lead eutectic paste, using a pre-heater. Lead-free is very easy.
AWESOME!!!! ITS SO AMAZING! i thought soldering of a very tiny ICs is made by a machines but with this video i found out that it is made by a man... i hope i could do that... what is that kind of a cream u put in there?
you make it look so easy that its not even funny.... i labor for about 30 seconds on just one pin (i'm using DIP modules by the way) and you get them all in one smooth action.
When you are cleaning the flux off, you seem to use the same brush for the initial application of alcohol and also for pushing the kimwipe onto the part. Is this necessary - does the brush need to be wet? I would have thought you'd want the brush to be dry on the second part of the cleaning process. Can you please explain this?
Good looking joints! I hafta mention tho, that tip looks a bit large for the fine-pitch used in the vids. Having the larger surface area helps store solder for the entire row of leads, however, I would also think that a tip temp of 650f or maybe even lower, would be sufficient with that large of tip.
I wish to comment on this for all viewers. This is the best of questions. 1) The larger type of hoof tip or drag soldering tip is necessary to achieve optimum wetting of the solder. Tin/lead at 600 F or lead-free between 650-700 F. My concern is not a large tip size but my "dwell time". If my dwell time on each joint is averaging 2 seconds, using a tacky flux then my technique only subjects the leads to thermal stress one time. Use a heat gun with lead-free to improve wetting.
@jkgamm041 I concur! And thanks... I have been SMT soldering for a number of years (I'd date myself, if I said how many years exactly). I completely agree with (and use personally) this technique. Its not the tip size, its the dwell time. Followed closely by the flux type... unf newer no-clean have the tendency to 'flash' off VERY fast due to the chemical makeup of the flux. Organic water soluable fluxes are so much easier to work with eh?
You are correct. The large hoof tip creates an immediate "heat bridge" melting the solder into its liquidous phase. Wetting action occurs rapidly. I try to keep my "dwell time" under 2-3 seconds. I recommend trying a no-clean tacky flux.
Clarification please. No-clean fluxes such as the Kester 951 or 959 with low solids
(2-4%) will flash off faster than a high solids no-clean or tack flux but they are still highly effective as long as excessive oxides are not present.
Soldering irons exhibit what is known as recovery time. If your temperature is too low or your tip mass too small, your tip will have cooled too much by the last joint because it cannot reheat the tip as fast as it is losing heat. Also note that with use of flux or a board still wet from cleaning, you are heating that too not just the solder and component lead. Additionally I agree with the other factors jkgamm041 mentioned.
@StinkyCheese9999 In my applications, my irons are at the proper temps... however we deal with large thick ground planes and boards that are designed to dissipate heat (ie high intensity LEDs). While we are in the process of trying some new tacky fluxes, the stuff we have used in the past (low solids) flashes off well before the solder reflows. As far as equipment goes, I am using a new Hakko FM-206 for hand sodlering/desoldering and the Hakko FR-803B rework station for fine pitch removal.
@StinkyCheese9999 im glad you posted this..i was thinking about using a copper sewing needle to do some very fine soldering work (Soldering a super super tiny Luxeon Rebel LED)...but im glad you posted this as now after reading your post i dont think it will work.
Optimal tip shape depends on what you are soldering it to, but basically the ideal tip is one that maximizes contact area to the joint while not being so large it won't fit in the available space. For surface mount soldering this is often a bevel shaped tip but in a pinch if you "had" to make it work and were patient, a sewing needle may or may not get the job done, depends on the mass and surface area of what you're soldering it to since LED itself is low mass.
Kinda makes me wish I was still doing that. I started doing that type of soldering my my college classes. Dropped out for other reasons although I was at the top of my class. I was able to solder the smd's and the smr's w/o a magnifying glass. Flux is everything to making soldering easy and clean looking.
Practically all electronics aside research or military applications, are manufactured in China or Japan. Defective components or circuit boards now a days get thrown away and replaced like your obsolete computer. Aside the few hi tec firms or the military, there isn't much demand for solder tecs in my opinion. The few that get in the door at an electronics firm can make good money, but for most people it's not a good career choice. Chinese slaves do it for pennies a day.
Wow. Very skilled. I tried to replace a simple resistor once, but I have no steady hand. I was also afraid to melt all the "lines" on the PCB and the PCB itself. Now I see you can safely touch it all.
Many feel that hand work is superior. I believe it can go both ways depending on application. SMT uses a controlled profile in its convective or vapor phase reflow. I rely on technique and reading the "wetting" of the solder in its liquidous phase to determine my speed of travel.
The machine has no concept of theory, process, science, metallurgy, wetting, intermetallic bonds, dissolution, latent failure, etc .. Pick your instructor carefully. ( Insist on demonstrations. )
That's quite an amazing job! Props to you for putting so much effort into it. But in the end a soldering robot can do this task in a matter of minutes. Why would you waste so much time soldering SMD? Of course if it's just for personal pleasure, I would understand.
Thank you very much. Automation is a primary function in PCB manufacturing, however, rework, replacement and other applications require the skills of a professionally trained operator/ technician in which the machine alone cannot perform.
What is the cost benefit analysis associated with doing an R & R on an SMD? If I can pull with hot air or low melting alloys and replace quickly, which I can, will the time justify the expense and profit margin or do I buy a replacement?
@jkgamm041 There's also lag time. Do you wait four or five days minimum for a replacement, or do you fix it RIGHT NOW so you can go about your business?
I wasn't dropping my jaw until I saw the 160-pin QFP being soldered with an iron. Amazing work and technique you have. This gives me higher confidence to try new soldering methods (I can already do TQFP-32 and SOIC-24 all day), and also to be less fearful of higher-pin-count devices in my designs.
Thank you. The QFP 160 is very easy to drag solder if you have the proper tip, temp, flux and when you pull the hoof tip your pressure must be extremely light and consistent. Your actual speed of travel must also be very consistent. I have (3) techniques that I teach with and all of them result in class 3 consistency. The entire process is very user friendly, as long as one follows the training and applies proper technique.
Hi John. I wanted to say thanks again for the advice on tips you gave a few weeks ago. I hot an FX-951, and you're absolutely correct, it is impressive. I notice something strange - the T15-CF4 is priced at around $10 at many places, whereas the T15-CF3 is around $33 on avg. Is there something really special about the CF3s, or are they just the perfect size for drag soldering these small parts? Thanks again for the help. -Josh
The Hakko FX 951 for $225. @ 70 watts and its thermal recovery is immediate, yes it is "the" cost effective solution which performs. The CF3's can be $30. - $40. each and if taken care of and tinned, they have a surprisingly long life. The CF3 is my # 1. Drag soldering like no other except for the better JBC's and the user friendly multi-lead sweep technique.
Thank you. Do you see the technique I use when you lay a piece of solder wire on the leads, step down on it with a hoof or drag tip, the wetting occurs and then you simply sweep off? I did it using an awesome Hakko drag soldering tip.
I learned a very similar technique from a great Master IPC Trainer named Norman Mier of BEST, Inc. He called it the "group method". I altered his technique and created this "one touch" multi lead technique. The ultimate performer. It never fails !
Thanks for sharing the video - you make it look easy. :)
I've been looking around for good QFP technique, but I'm a little confused on this. I'm assuming the blue tip tube is solder paste and the yellow tube is flux? If so, I'm having a hard time figuring out where all the solder comes from when you do the swipe at 2:05 :)
May I ask what solder/flux you use? The stuff I've used for SOICs seems to have too much surface tension for QFP work - or maybe I just need better flux application.
Part 1: I see the term "surface tension". Viewers, many of you will not know what this means.
Let's tell a story about The Mind Of Pat. Pat wants to solder a QFP. He preps with isopropol to promote solderability. Pat then uses the industry standard of a eutectic Sn63 Pb37 Tin / Lead (current best manufacturing practice for Sn Pb).
Pat's Sn63 Pb37 is a Kester 331 Organic Water Soluble. Pat supplements externally with a Kester flux pen 331 which is $4 bucks. Continued ...
Part 2: regardless of whether Pat uses a Water Sol or a No-Clean with a low solids flux pen of 2-4% solids, pat can achieve excellent wetting.
Flux will stop the base metals from oxidizing while they are being heated to the soldering temp. Flux is a chemical cleaning agent, it removes mild oxides and residues. Flux lowers the surface tension of the solder upon contact, thereby allowing more efficient wetting.
For technical questions, email me: jkgammell@gmail.com
@kgamm041 Thanks, you're a great story-teller. ;) I found a #186 flux pen local last week so we'll see how that works, maybe I'll do mail order if all else fails.
By the way, any broad suggestion on where to find soldering training, if I ever have the money to go that route? Didn't see any at the local comm colleges or trade school, but you'd think people have to learn somewhere!
The majority of community and technical colleges do not offer this training. Unfortunately, many of the IPC Certification Centers do not teach the mandatory fundamentals: wetting forces, solderability, surface tension, chemical reactions, intermetallic bonds, thermal stress, latent failure, techniques for high reliability, i.e., "one touch", specialized multi-lead techniques, etc ...
Hi again John. Thanks for the advice on tip part#s. I have found a mid-line Hakko unit, the 936. It is analog, and uses different tips than the 951. Do you have any experience with it? Thanks.
You would do better with a Hakko FX-951. The 951 tips do amazing work. I cannot see a true temp with analogs. No experience with the 936.
Your goal is "one touch". Repeated exposure to thermal energy (heat) will thermally stress/shock the IC thereby reducing its life (latent failure). You want high reliability.
I could professionally train you and take you to a skill level so high in 5-7 days that you would not even believe the results? Private training & IPC Certifications.
Excellent work-Beautiful accuracy. I see you recommended the Weller WESD51. It looks like great low-to-middle end unit. I can't seem to figure out what the exact model # is of the hoof-type tips, similar to the ones you use in this video. I know you have said Weller calls them "single flats", but I can't seem to find any that match yous. Can you recommend a good tip for the WESD51 that I can use on a 100-TQFP chip? Would it be their ETDD? How about for the Hakko you recommend? Thanks!
Thank you. I don't recall the part # on the Weller Single Flat that resembles a hoof tip. The FX-951 will blow away the Weller WESD51.
I like the Hakko FX-951 which retails at $250. and tips are $10. each and have 100 microns more of plating compared to the other brands. Recommended tips: T15-D16 1/16" chisel tip, T15-D24 1/8" chisel tip, T15-CF3 drag soldering tip, T15-JL02 Bent Extended Sharp Conical. The FX-951 is a very high performance unit but then so is the Metcal MX 5010.
This post will not let me embed the link. Google Stanley Supply Services. Enter a search for the following and follow the link: Part No. 112-658 3/16" Single Flat.
Any time that you viewers want a "hoof tip", go to the local stores that sell the Weller, Hakko, Metcal, Pace or whatever brand you have and ask them to show you the tips that look like a medium to large hoof.
For a hassle free experience use Stanley. TRUST ME ON THIS ! To many difficulties with Techni-Tool.
Thank you. When I train our students in the lab at Dakota County Technical College in Rosemount, MN, I place extremely high emphasis on quality, efficiency and consistency for high reliability. "One touch" techniques promote this reliability.
This presents numerous benefits to electronic manufacturers who hire the best students as they are meticulously trained by me to achieve Class 3 consistency.
that was beautifully done.
BADtimmay 13 hours ago
Neat Work Dude.
mickeygovender 2 days ago
amazing work, i found this video to help me solder a capacitor in my rear projection tv. it was very useful. awesome work
wolfprince7777 5 days ago
nice work
sweetgyy 5 days ago
Cantthis technique be used for replacing the motor control chip on a HDD?
TheSoxmania 6 days ago
what if the flash memory chip you are trying to install has BROKEN metal tips...i.e. there are no legs???
chensenhan 1 week ago
Good info here. I've been doing electronics since I was a little kid and still do it, but I had no idea you could do this by hand. Most of the times I try to resolder some chips on defective PCBs just to make sure there's no cold joint, I join together by accident 2 or 3 pins and have to use the solder pump to get rid of the excess solder.
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HerpesLTR01 1 week ago
very nice soldering.
johhny303 2 weeks ago
This video is very well made. Learn something new every day!
Oerg866 2 weeks ago
sexy
guerrillaman69 2 weeks ago
What was the tool you were using to hold the chip down as you tacked it? Was it one of those vacuum tools?
RobotLover0 2 weeks ago
1:45 - 2:00 are these just solder shinner or what?
XxZAIBxX 3 weeks ago
@XxZAIBxX keeps it stronger on
boomy818 2 weeks ago
Hi where can i buy that sucker thing you were holding the microcontroler with ?
mocgpower 3 weeks ago
Beautiful.
sonicfuker 3 weeks ago
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humans work look so boring and drearily. and i suppose it is not lead-free. suicidal lead was used here !
RobotN001 3 weeks ago
@RobotN001
Isn't it just awful ! It is the "suicidal' lead we have been using since the very beginning of soldering technology history, which has led to the greatest evolution in technological advancements of high reliability interconnections, for Class 3 High Performance Electronic Products.
STC is a specialist in lead-free applications using SAC 305 (silver), SN100C (Nickel) and SN 100E (Cobalt). I make it wet like a tin/lead eutectic paste, using a pre-heater. Lead-free is very easy.
jkgamm041 3 weeks ago 15
Pretty good methods. And I consider myself good at this.
SuburbanDon 4 weeks ago
AWESOME!!!! ITS SO AMAZING! i thought soldering of a very tiny ICs is made by a machines but with this video i found out that it is made by a man... i hope i could do that... what is that kind of a cream u put in there?
yrofbar 4 weeks ago
you make it look so easy that its not even funny.... i labor for about 30 seconds on just one pin (i'm using DIP modules by the way) and you get them all in one smooth action.
orrinbare 1 month ago
omg such nice work!!!!!
omfgg3tlost 1 month ago
it's all about the flux. get a flux pen if you are new.
DanFrederiksen 1 month ago
best scene = 2:30. very cool.
gnamp 1 month ago
OMG! i wish i could solder like that!!
KeithWasHere1 1 month ago
Great video but I have one question.
When you are cleaning the flux off, you seem to use the same brush for the initial application of alcohol and also for pushing the kimwipe onto the part. Is this necessary - does the brush need to be wet? I would have thought you'd want the brush to be dry on the second part of the cleaning process. Can you please explain this?
Tda7000 1 month ago
ahhh, nice solderporn
masterfistlord 1 month ago
@masterfistlord LOL, same thought here.
CognitiveNetwork 1 month ago
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
Beliyvadik 1 month ago
yay, quality solder porn.
masterfistlord 1 month ago
Good job!!!
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this could be a guide on HOW-TO mod-chip a ps3, and xbox 360
PiMpStAnLeY 1 month ago
I had an orgasm watching this video WOW!
LXBD 1 month ago
awesome.... i wish i could do such tricks with soldering irons :)
etherlords88 2 months ago
Good looking joints! I hafta mention tho, that tip looks a bit large for the fine-pitch used in the vids. Having the larger surface area helps store solder for the entire row of leads, however, I would also think that a tip temp of 650f or maybe even lower, would be sufficient with that large of tip.
djravery 2 months ago
@djravery
I wish to comment on this for all viewers. This is the best of questions. 1) The larger type of hoof tip or drag soldering tip is necessary to achieve optimum wetting of the solder. Tin/lead at 600 F or lead-free between 650-700 F. My concern is not a large tip size but my "dwell time". If my dwell time on each joint is averaging 2 seconds, using a tacky flux then my technique only subjects the leads to thermal stress one time. Use a heat gun with lead-free to improve wetting.
jkgamm041 2 months ago
@jkgamm041 I concur! And thanks... I have been SMT soldering for a number of years (I'd date myself, if I said how many years exactly). I completely agree with (and use personally) this technique. Its not the tip size, its the dwell time. Followed closely by the flux type... unf newer no-clean have the tendency to 'flash' off VERY fast due to the chemical makeup of the flux. Organic water soluable fluxes are so much easier to work with eh?
djravery 2 months ago
@djravery
You are correct. The large hoof tip creates an immediate "heat bridge" melting the solder into its liquidous phase. Wetting action occurs rapidly. I try to keep my "dwell time" under 2-3 seconds. I recommend trying a no-clean tacky flux.
Clarification please. No-clean fluxes such as the Kester 951 or 959 with low solids
(2-4%) will flash off faster than a high solids no-clean or tack flux but they are still highly effective as long as excessive oxides are not present.
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@jkgamm041 what if the flash memory chip you are trying to install has BROKEN metal tips...i.e. there are no legs???
chensenhan 1 week ago
@djravery
Soldering irons exhibit what is known as recovery time. If your temperature is too low or your tip mass too small, your tip will have cooled too much by the last joint because it cannot reheat the tip as fast as it is losing heat. Also note that with use of flux or a board still wet from cleaning, you are heating that too not just the solder and component lead. Additionally I agree with the other factors jkgamm041 mentioned.
StinkyCheese9999 1 month ago
@StinkyCheese9999 In my applications, my irons are at the proper temps... however we deal with large thick ground planes and boards that are designed to dissipate heat (ie high intensity LEDs). While we are in the process of trying some new tacky fluxes, the stuff we have used in the past (low solids) flashes off well before the solder reflows. As far as equipment goes, I am using a new Hakko FM-206 for hand sodlering/desoldering and the Hakko FR-803B rework station for fine pitch removal.
djravery 1 month ago
@StinkyCheese9999 im glad you posted this..i was thinking about using a copper sewing needle to do some very fine soldering work (Soldering a super super tiny Luxeon Rebel LED)...but im glad you posted this as now after reading your post i dont think it will work.
KeithWasHere1 1 month ago
@KeithWasHere1
Optimal tip shape depends on what you are soldering it to, but basically the ideal tip is one that maximizes contact area to the joint while not being so large it won't fit in the available space. For surface mount soldering this is often a bevel shaped tip but in a pinch if you "had" to make it work and were patient, a sewing needle may or may not get the job done, depends on the mass and surface area of what you're soldering it to since LED itself is low mass.
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@djravery what if the flash memory chip you are trying to install has BROKEN metal tips...i.e. there are no legs???
chensenhan 1 week ago
Beautiful soldering, man. Just beautiful.
But the desoldering is the really fun part of it :D
yo6ial 2 months ago
Kinda makes me wish I was still doing that. I started doing that type of soldering my my college classes. Dropped out for other reasons although I was at the top of my class. I was able to solder the smd's and the smr's w/o a magnifying glass. Flux is everything to making soldering easy and clean looking.
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Practically all electronics aside research or military applications, are manufactured in China or Japan. Defective components or circuit boards now a days get thrown away and replaced like your obsolete computer. Aside the few hi tec firms or the military, there isn't much demand for solder tecs in my opinion. The few that get in the door at an electronics firm can make good money, but for most people it's not a good career choice. Chinese slaves do it for pennies a day.
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ChilesGreen 2 months ago
Wow. Very skilled. I tried to replace a simple resistor once, but I have no steady hand. I was also afraid to melt all the "lines" on the PCB and the PCB itself. Now I see you can safely touch it all.
1D0N 2 months ago
What is the clear looking stuff you put on the leads before drag soldering? Is it a type of solder itself or is it a flux?
ku4gw 3 months ago
@ku4gw it looks like flux to me, nice technique too!
SparkysWidgets 2 months ago
@15sdobbie
Many feel that hand work is superior. I believe it can go both ways depending on application. SMT uses a controlled profile in its convective or vapor phase reflow. I rely on technique and reading the "wetting" of the solder in its liquidous phase to determine my speed of travel.
The machine has no concept of theory, process, science, metallurgy, wetting, intermetallic bonds, dissolution, latent failure, etc .. Pick your instructor carefully. ( Insist on demonstrations. )
jkgamm041 3 months ago
What solder do you use? Kester? What number? Thanks. Superb job really! ;)
ElektroHut 4 months ago
Wow! You make it look so easy!
MLink96 4 months ago
That's quite an amazing job! Props to you for putting so much effort into it. But in the end a soldering robot can do this task in a matter of minutes. Why would you waste so much time soldering SMD? Of course if it's just for personal pleasure, I would understand.
VeXorian1337 5 months ago 2
@VeXorian1337
Thank you very much. Automation is a primary function in PCB manufacturing, however, rework, replacement and other applications require the skills of a professionally trained operator/ technician in which the machine alone cannot perform.
What is the cost benefit analysis associated with doing an R & R on an SMD? If I can pull with hot air or low melting alloys and replace quickly, which I can, will the time justify the expense and profit margin or do I buy a replacement?
jkgamm041 5 months ago 5
@jkgamm041 There's also lag time. Do you wait four or five days minimum for a replacement, or do you fix it RIGHT NOW so you can go about your business?
HackCausality 1 month ago
perfect
kamgjiku 5 months ago
really really a good job!
arsacd 5 months ago
Very impressive. What temperature is the iron set to? Also curious about the type of flux and solder paste used in the demo.
MrCageman 6 months ago 2
AMAZING!!
tommixoft 6 months ago
Someone knows how much the temperature's iron is? And the brand/kind of the solder??
AIexanderHartdegen 8 months ago
Great vid, really shows what it's all about, thanks!
picbuck 9 months ago
I wasn't dropping my jaw until I saw the 160-pin QFP being soldered with an iron. Amazing work and technique you have. This gives me higher confidence to try new soldering methods (I can already do TQFP-32 and SOIC-24 all day), and also to be less fearful of higher-pin-count devices in my designs.
SigEpBlue 10 months ago 2
@SigEpBlue
Thank you. The QFP 160 is very easy to drag solder if you have the proper tip, temp, flux and when you pull the hoof tip your pressure must be extremely light and consistent. Your actual speed of travel must also be very consistent. I have (3) techniques that I teach with and all of them result in class 3 consistency. The entire process is very user friendly, as long as one follows the training and applies proper technique.
jkgamm041 10 months ago
@jkgamm041
Hi,
What is the proper flux to do this? or what is the one you're using here?
Thanks
heavy6161 6 months ago
Absolutely amazing. Thanks for the upload!
Kaulstoessl 1 year ago
Oh, and I forgot to ask a couple other questions...what is the temp setting you're using, and where can I find info about your classes?
Thanks again
-Josh
deweywsu 1 year ago
Hi John. I wanted to say thanks again for the advice on tips you gave a few weeks ago. I hot an FX-951, and you're absolutely correct, it is impressive. I notice something strange - the T15-CF4 is priced at around $10 at many places, whereas the T15-CF3 is around $33 on avg. Is there something really special about the CF3s, or are they just the perfect size for drag soldering these small parts? Thanks again for the help. -Josh
deweywsu 1 year ago
@deweywsu
The Hakko FX 951 for $225. @ 70 watts and its thermal recovery is immediate, yes it is "the" cost effective solution which performs. The CF3's can be $30. - $40. each and if taken care of and tinned, they have a surprisingly long life. The CF3 is my # 1. Drag soldering like no other except for the better JBC's and the user friendly multi-lead sweep technique.
jkgamm041 11 months ago
@Chuckskull888
No-clean high solids tacky flux by Chemtronics. Tack fluxes are more agressive and produce excellent wetting.
jkgamm041 1 year ago
That's awesome. Certainly techniques that I would consider using. =]
Helios924 1 year ago
@Helios924
Thank you. Do you see the technique I use when you lay a piece of solder wire on the leads, step down on it with a hoof or drag tip, the wetting occurs and then you simply sweep off? I did it using an awesome Hakko drag soldering tip.
I learned a very similar technique from a great Master IPC Trainer named Norman Mier of BEST, Inc. He called it the "group method". I altered his technique and created this "one touch" multi lead technique. The ultimate performer. It never fails !
jkgamm041 1 year ago
Thanks for sharing the video - you make it look easy. :)
I've been looking around for good QFP technique, but I'm a little confused on this. I'm assuming the blue tip tube is solder paste and the yellow tube is flux? If so, I'm having a hard time figuring out where all the solder comes from when you do the swipe at 2:05 :)
May I ask what solder/flux you use? The stuff I've used for SOICs seems to have too much surface tension for QFP work - or maybe I just need better flux application.
TheMindOfPat 1 year ago
@TheMindOfPat
Part 1: I see the term "surface tension". Viewers, many of you will not know what this means.
Let's tell a story about The Mind Of Pat. Pat wants to solder a QFP. He preps with isopropol to promote solderability. Pat then uses the industry standard of a eutectic Sn63 Pb37 Tin / Lead (current best manufacturing practice for Sn Pb).
Pat's Sn63 Pb37 is a Kester 331 Organic Water Soluble. Pat supplements externally with a Kester flux pen 331 which is $4 bucks. Continued ...
jkgamm041 1 year ago
@TheMindOfPat
Part 2: regardless of whether Pat uses a Water Sol or a No-Clean with a low solids flux pen of 2-4% solids, pat can achieve excellent wetting.
Flux will stop the base metals from oxidizing while they are being heated to the soldering temp. Flux is a chemical cleaning agent, it removes mild oxides and residues. Flux lowers the surface tension of the solder upon contact, thereby allowing more efficient wetting.
For technical questions, email me: jkgammell@gmail.com
jkgamm041 1 year ago
@kgamm041 Thanks, you're a great story-teller. ;) I found a #186 flux pen local last week so we'll see how that works, maybe I'll do mail order if all else fails.
By the way, any broad suggestion on where to find soldering training, if I ever have the money to go that route? Didn't see any at the local comm colleges or trade school, but you'd think people have to learn somewhere!
Thanks again for the help and the good videos!
TheMindOfPat 1 year ago
@TheMindOfPat
The majority of community and technical colleges do not offer this training. Unfortunately, many of the IPC Certification Centers do not teach the mandatory fundamentals: wetting forces, solderability, surface tension, chemical reactions, intermetallic bonds, thermal stress, latent failure, techniques for high reliability, i.e., "one touch", specialized multi-lead techniques, etc ...
I create true professionals.
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jkgamm041 1 year ago
This is so pro. Great job mann
Anton338 1 year ago
@Anton338
Thank you
jkgamm041 1 year ago
Hi again John. Thanks for the advice on tip part#s. I have found a mid-line Hakko unit, the 936. It is analog, and uses different tips than the 951. Do you have any experience with it? Thanks.
deweywsu 1 year ago
@deweywsu
You would do better with a Hakko FX-951. The 951 tips do amazing work. I cannot see a true temp with analogs. No experience with the 936.
Your goal is "one touch". Repeated exposure to thermal energy (heat) will thermally stress/shock the IC thereby reducing its life (latent failure). You want high reliability.
I could professionally train you and take you to a skill level so high in 5-7 days that you would not even believe the results? Private training & IPC Certifications.
jkgamm041 1 year ago
Excellent work-Beautiful accuracy. I see you recommended the Weller WESD51. It looks like great low-to-middle end unit. I can't seem to figure out what the exact model # is of the hoof-type tips, similar to the ones you use in this video. I know you have said Weller calls them "single flats", but I can't seem to find any that match yous. Can you recommend a good tip for the WESD51 that I can use on a 100-TQFP chip? Would it be their ETDD? How about for the Hakko you recommend? Thanks!
deweywsu 1 year ago
@deweywsu
Thank you. I don't recall the part # on the Weller Single Flat that resembles a hoof tip. The FX-951 will blow away the Weller WESD51.
I like the Hakko FX-951 which retails at $250. and tips are $10. each and have 100 microns more of plating compared to the other brands. Recommended tips: T15-D16 1/16" chisel tip, T15-D24 1/8" chisel tip, T15-CF3 drag soldering tip, T15-JL02 Bent Extended Sharp Conical. The FX-951 is a very high performance unit but then so is the Metcal MX 5010.
jkgamm041 1 year ago
@deweywsu
This post will not let me embed the link. Google Stanley Supply Services. Enter a search for the following and follow the link: Part No. 112-658 3/16" Single Flat.
Any time that you viewers want a "hoof tip", go to the local stores that sell the Weller, Hakko, Metcal, Pace or whatever brand you have and ask them to show you the tips that look like a medium to large hoof.
For a hassle free experience use Stanley. TRUST ME ON THIS ! To many difficulties with Techni-Tool.
jkgamm041 1 year ago
Great now how the heck am I going to get an ATMega 2560 on a perfboard? Ah am I really going to have to make a PCB....
LauxHawk 1 year ago
This is very nice professional work man thanks for posting I would recommend your work for many such reoworks and resolders, thanks again man.
obiwankenobi28 1 year ago
@obiwankenobi28
Thank you. When I train our students in the lab at Dakota County Technical College in Rosemount, MN, I place extremely high emphasis on quality, efficiency and consistency for high reliability. "One touch" techniques promote this reliability.
This presents numerous benefits to electronic manufacturers who hire the best students as they are meticulously trained by me to achieve Class 3 consistency.
jkgamm041 1 year ago
Excellent. As always.
AstAMoore 1 year ago
Thank you for your support and encouragement.
jkgamm041 1 year ago