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  • Thank you so much for uploading the vid and putting the magazine cover link in the description! Took me ages to find it! :)

  • I want to see that akerfeldt pic with the sword wtf

  • Steven is right, Metal now is just cookie monster vocs and generic riffs, it is cliche

  • well that ones getting framed on my wall (couldent stop laughing:)

  • nice eyebrows Jonas

  • Any album cover by In Flames or Dark Tranquillity is far from boring or tasteless.

  • Steven is a douche who takes himself way to fucking seriously... God forbid metal looks "evil" or "silly" from time to time.. Its all in good fun, who gives a shit.

  • @CreeCore94 To some they suck, to many others they don't... it's all a point of view and taste.

  • Music politics, I don't get it - focus on what you are into, not what you are not into.

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  • or just because its not this or its not that it cant be considered this type of metal that type of metal ...i mean its not the only genre of music that gets dumbasses like that ruining somthing beautiful ...all over somthing that really truely doesnt matter its only a label...

  • honestly ...im against the whole genre labeling of bands anyway..because hes right its too cliched you label yourself as a deth metal band and you automatically have to be a satanist...you automattically have this image of cradle of filthe pop into your head ...and i mean...thats rather limiting to a band in a creative standpoint to people in a listeners standpoint and people in general its like i see most metal heads being douches if somthing isnt brutal enough for them.....

  • loved that they mentioned 'bad news'

  • AT 1:19 HE HAS THE: "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU LAUGHING AT BIATCH" KILLER LOOK.

  • I'd love to kick Steven in the crotch. I'm into death metal, I don't like certain steriotypical things about it, but I don't make a fucking documentary about it. Fucking asshole snob.

  • @biffen89 Fucking idiot this Wilson... and to think I've enjoyed his music. Understand: Metal is a Wayward Son from progressive rock! Swords&Chains themes are brothers with the initial development of metal! Even Death Metal bands are charged full of humour, even at the start, just listen to Autopsy, for crying out loud. Absolutely no need to be uptight, judgemental and generalize. Idiot trendies!

  • @squidge0000 Indeed. And Michael isn't much better either. He plays in Opeth and Bloodbath, yet he seems to patronize his fans because most of them are metalheads.

  • @biffen89 You are so right. It's cool to listen to his music but I tend to avoid his interviews so not to get pissed at some of his aloof comments.

  • what a snob this Steven is,

  • @RE8978RETURN I don't think it's snobbery. A lot of death metal album artwork is very clichéd and uninspired. Trying too hard to be dark and evil can come off as a bit silly.

  • @cultofdagon But there are still death metal album artwork which are trying to deviate from that clichéd norm. An example is Nile (one of my favorite bands) which doesn't show so much dark images in the cover, although the music itself is dark and brutal. Same goes for Dying Fetus (mostly political in nature), Decapitated (symbolic), and Gojira (usu. environmentalism) just to name a few. Steve's remarks are misleading. And I am a huge death metal fan, so I know what I'm talking about!

  • @immortalperser misleading... but still right.

    What you said is true, and it happens in music in general. People are starting to get tired of some clichés.

    I started to get into the whole Metal scene recently and one of the things that annoy me the most is that i see the same motifs and themes over and over and over again. Metal covers, in general are, as Wilson said, absolutely tasteless.

    Just look at the "In Waves" cover (Trivium). Now that's a decent album cover.

  • @sonicadv27 True, but what I meant is that Wilson's points imply that almost all metal covers are "absolutely tasteless". He doesn't say it explicitly but that's what he meant. You have already mentioned Trivium's album (which I just checked.) As you go through more metal album covers, you will notice some very interesting artwork. There are of course some famous metal bands that keep recycling boring artwork like candies (which is really annoying) but we can't generalize from that trend.

  • @cultofdagon But I still agree with you that there are still some (but not all) death metal albums that still use uninspiring artwork. Please note that I didn't say Steve is making a false claim; I just say that it's misleading...

  • "I see in my eyes, I'm suffering..." Hahahahaha.

  • @Nancetha jajjajajjajjajjajjajajjajjaja

  • @Nancetha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Wait, WUT. Is Wilson holding a baby there? Does the guy have kids? O.o

  • Sure it's silly and cliché, but it's also fun and good in a distancing way =)

  • mikaels kid is damn cute :D

  • 3 Gods in one room. How is the roof still on?

  • not many good metal bands? you just lost points with me Akerfeldt. and Wilson fuck off and die cunt.

  • "I was standing with a sword" - says the man who's wearing a Conan the Barbarian shirt. Oh the irony.

  • Alright everyone's gonna bash me for this... I don't like Steven Wilson. I love Porcupine Tree but I don't like Steven as a guy. He just seems so uptight and snooty. He looks like it in this video. I saw Porcupine Tree a couple years ago and he barely talked to the crowd at all, and he just had this "I'm better than all of you" look on his face all the time. I dunno. Somebody has to agree with me lol.

  • @lasoogneypubes Personally, I know he's not like that. He loves his fans very dearly, I noticed that when I met him. The music is very complex, sometimes they need to focus very much on what they're doing or planning to do on stage. I mean, I look pissed off when I'm playing guitar, people always tell me. Doesn't mean I'm not nice. At the Grace for Drowning tour, Steven Wilson didn't say a word to the crowd, I think. But I know they were trying very hard to keep their focus on the music.

  • @culokristof When I saw Porcupine Tree live last year he was very sociable with the crowd. So that surprises me.

  • @magpie1862 Yeah I was surprised too, the previous times I'd seen SW in concert, with Blackfield and PT, they did take time to talk between songs. But I know SW wanted this Grace for Drowning show to be a "visually spectacular" show, to let the music and images do all the talking. To be honest, it did surpass my past concert experiences with PT and Blackfield. This was even better than a regular PT show.

  • @lasoogneypubes I can somehow see where you are coming from though, if I step out of my shoes for a bit. On Insurgentes, Steven does criticise lots of things in music or how people choose to experience music nowadays, almost like he's preaching. But in the right groups of music fans, he has reached that level of status where many people will respect him for it. After all, everyone's entitled to an opinion, also Steven. But it's not cos I'm a fan or you are, that we have to agree with him.

  • @lasoogneypubes I've always kind of gotten that feeling off of him, too. The stereotypical pretentious artist. But he's quite the genius.

  • @LeafytheGreat Yeah he's a great musician and I love his music but he does seem a little full of himself.

  • @lasoogneypubes I've met Steven a few times now, and I will say that he is very gracious to all of his fans!

  • @lasoogneypubes He's British.

  • @diabeticmonkey Yeah British people just think they're above everyone intellectually don't they? With their turtle necks and tea breaks..

  • @lasoogneypubes Exactly. Ha.

  • @lasoogneypubes lol. :D you're funneh.

  • @lasoogneypubes i think you've got that wrong. I used to think the same thing, until I realized- the man is not a dick. Just socially awkward. He's probably not really all that arrogant, even though it may seem so, he's just really introverted.

  • @lasoogneypubes He was most likely in a bad mood that day, whenever he's in a bad mood on stage you can tell because he becomes incredibly awkward.

    On the other hand, I saw him on his recent solo tour and after the concert he sat on the edge of the stage talking to fans and answering question for an hour and a half.

    All musicians have their off nights, you most likely caught him on one of those.

  • @lasoogneypubes admit it, he's better than you xD

  • @lasoogneypubes

    Well, I understand your bad impression, but you should really meet him and talk to him, because he really is a great guy :)

  • I imagine Mikael with a sword is like Conan on his shirt

  • Priceless!

  • YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK MEAN!

  • OMG Mikael, Steven and Jonas in one room! Oh dear lord.

  • 1:05 someone farted :D

  • Well I put it like this. Everyone has the right to an opinion, but no one worth arguing with will say that Bud Light is a beer of higher quality than, say, Dogfish Head Burton Baton, for example. You might enjoy Bud Light more, but you're incorrect when you say it's a beer of higher quality. It's fine if someone likes watered down beer/music, they can listen to it as much as their heart desires, but I'll take my beer/music complex, deep, unique, and well balanced.

  • The majority of metal bands suck, just like the majority of reggae/rock/pop/country/folk sucks. It's not pretentious, it's a fact.

  • I wanna see 30 minutes of these guys chatting like this.

  • hahahahaha gota look mean

  • HAHAHAA wilson just laughs in his face

  • A nice reference to "Bad News" :)

  • Haha, what does the guy out of Katatonia know about metal?

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    He's also in bloodbath, if your assuming katatonia isn't heavy enough and he used have pretty kick ass death metal voice. He's has a damn good right to talk about metal

  • @essengeebee

    "Hi I don't know anything about anyone".. Renkse plays in bloodbath too ^^ Check them out.. And katatonia have alot of heavy songs fyi. He probably knows alot more than you do, so I guess he have all the right to talk about metal ^^ My question is: What do you know about "metal"?

  • @333plus333 Fair enough, didn't know he was in Bloodbath. He probably does know a lot more about metal than me, it's just that everything I've heard from Katatonia sounds like Coldplay and I was trying to make a joke about it. Don't get upset.

  • @EITrollo I respect your opinion... the only people who would probably agree with what's being said in this video are people who are and will be fans regardless... it's perhaps harsh from Mikael to just state 'there's not many good metal bands'... It's still a matter of taste really, Opeth and SW's music are probably what's best for us, but it's shit for so many other people. I guess many fans and the artists themselves consider prog to be at a higher level of music and intelligence... I dunno

  • @EITrollo I guess they're right about the cliché though, but so many bands are also amazingly good at what they would call cliché metal. A band that springs to mind when talking about cliché of hard rock and metal is Airbourne. They're rock & roll to the point it seems silly, but then again, they're so fucking good at what they do. So I don't mind. I think it's a bit offensive of Mikael/Steven, considering both these men are on Roadrunner, a label with many of these 'cliché' rock/metal groups.

  • @culokristof ok fair enough. your opinion is articulate and open minded.

  • @EITrollo Well I think much of what you said can be argued.

    1) Yes to an extent, it depends on what you mean though. Is it pretentious? Yes, is it normal prog lyric fare? No not really, it has Wilson's own style to it

    2) Akerfag? Really? That's just a pointless immature quip just hurt you on making any point. Also, four words: Pressure from record label.

    3) Ya Akerfeldt and Wilson do take a rather holier than thou stance, but remember that Akerfeldt has been in the metal world for 20 years now.

  • @Nubnut 1) ok, fair enough. i'm just saying he's not the most original lyricist to begin with. he does have his own style though.

    2) meh, i don't think mike is someone who can be pressured by anyone, especially after spending 20 years in metal. but if he was pressured and he eventually gave in, he just loses the right to credibly criticize those who did the same thing he did.

    3) true. but wilson has not been in metal for so long, and he forgets average prog is as trite as mediocre metal.

  • @EITrollo Some artists have to make money. And that can mean sacrificing their image sometimes.

  • @BruisedEyeSockets yes, but it can also mean losing the privilege to credibly criticize others who do the same thing as you. as i already said.

  • Name 3 current metal bands that are on par with Opeth.

  • @lastdayinsin3 there's no band that is quite on par with opeth, now or ever, but that's not what we're talking about here...

  • Really Really Really you don't knpw what a metal band should have in the photo seasion !!

  • That picture of mikael is priceless

  • I liked better the old times when Akerfeldt did not do any interviews they were not famous at all and a kind of mist surrounded the band

  • I especially love that Alerfeldt was wearing that same Manowar shirt when I saw Opeth a few years back.

  • @jth1414 Isn't it a Conan the Conqueror t-shirt he's wearing?

  • @CaptainKrys possibly. I know he was definitely wearing that shirt though, haha.

  • Imagine those guys recording an album together. Mikael Akerfeldt for the brutal jazzy death metal riffing & weird ideas + Jonas Renkse on vocals + Steven Wilson for the mellow stuff & overall sound! That would be the best thing ever.. *dreaming*

  • @Soilwar Well, two thirds of that dream has actually come true. Steven Wilson and Mikael Akerfeldt are releasing an album next year under the project name Storm Corrosion. Should be released in April. It's not very Opeth and not very Porcupine Tree, something neither of them have ever done they said. I'm curious, if you're looking at how different Opeth's Heritage and Steven Wilson's Grace For Drowning sound, this could be a very very interesting release...

  • @culokristof: Yeah, I'm really really looking forward to that album, too! MUST be great, otherwise I'll donate my ears to hungry piranhas.

  • @culokristof Wow. Just gave me chills....

  • @spiral2012 Haha, what did I do!

  • 1:06 - "I'm suffering" LOL!

  • How did the room not explode with the amount of talent in that room...

  • Mikael and his super trashy Conan The Destroyer shirt while talking about bad metal covers. Classy.

  • you got to look meeeeean :D:D haha love them <3

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  • lol, 0:44 were like ....... bums

  • I need to hang with these guys...

  • so why did Mike do it then? He's not the 'sell-out' type! Hhhmmm. He does look silly with the sword. and the chick next to him: yikes.

  • LOL... that picture is just so horrible, and they're right it's so cliche. Knowing Mikael and the kind of style he's into, I can understand why he hates it.

  • wut DVD is this from?

  • haha :D I love Steven's reaction when Mikael says :"I was standing with a sword." :D

  • Mikael don't have to worry about the pic, but the two others should.

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  • Mikael's pose accurately resembles his Conan t-shirt. lol

  • LOL

  • Love it xD

  • LOLITH!

  • Micheal's hilarious: "You got to look mean!"

  • I would be aroused too! If I was there....... >xD

  • This is completely unrelated to the interview, but I wish Jonas wouldn't dye his hair black. It makes his eyebrows look too light.

  • MOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAAAAR!

  • LOL and that picture made me fucking lol

  • it actually makes me so fucking happy every time I see akerfeldt and wilson together :')

  • Love Jonas, but I hate the other two...........what a couple of egocentric idiots...

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  • @Angel2291 The Insurgentes DVD documentary by Steven Wilson.

  • Steven looks aroused when near Mikael

  • 2x extremely fucking talented individuals right there on camera 1.

  • "You've got to look mean!" I want to see a picture of Mikael snuggiling a kitten.

  • Steven at 1:01 hahaha

  • nirvana at 1:15?

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  • Fart at 1:05

  • Somebody farts loudly at 1:05

  • LOL Mikes face at 0:49 and his and Steven's face at 1:20

  • steven is intimidating...#genderirrespec­tive..

  • Ha! On that MH cover, that gal is looking as if she's going to sever Mike's head! Please don't!

  • you're welcome dude, thanks for the vid

  • @okapa Hey! It's wrong in the video too!

  • Hum, it's Jonas Renkse, not Renske

  • @okapa My bad, changed it, thanks

  • @okapa I´ve been Katatonia fan for years. I bought nearly all of their records. And till now I also read it as Renske XD

  • so sad that not many people know about these 3 gods here

  • the best part is Steven's face at 1:19 <3

  • They're so cute :3

  • Oooooh that was cooool!

    

  • Steve looks just like dethkloks music producer from metalocalypse 

  • to look mean? haha yeah It kinda cliché... but thinkin about it, psychopaths dont look mean... they look nice. Death metal is so cliché nowadays...

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  • hahahah

  • "I look at that picture...and I see in my eyes... I'm suffering. I can't do that."

  • 1:25 - w ww.flickr.com/photos/metalhamm­er/­3231944072

  • @SouLZeroY

    link doesnt work

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  • Steven Wilson... can... laugh? o_o

    Awesome vid.

  • i fucking loved it

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  • 3 incredible musicians all in the same room, amazing

  • MOAR

  • YOU GOT TO LOOK MEAN!" lol priceless!

  • Straight from the man's mouth. There's not many good metal bands. Right on Mikael.

  • @PorcupineFloyd68 To me, there's only few really good bands/artists (sometimes none) in any music style: metal, rock, pop, blues, jazz, r&b.

  • @andrelias Agreed. Also, it's pretty funny Mikael makes fun of being forced to pose with a sword when he's wearing that shirt....

  • pause at 0:58

  • @merikuna24 why not buy it if you're so interested, is the real question :-)

  • @culokristof i will! but what dvd is this from?

  • @culokristof  support your artists!!! yeah!!!

  • @culokristof What dvd is it? If Johnas and Steven are in it Ill buy it :)

  • @wildwomenneverdie This is from the Insurgentes DVD :) by Steven Wilson

  • @culokristof thank you, I though it was, but not four sure, thank you. ;)

  • I love Steven when he laughs. Though it doesn't happen very often, does it? I ALWAYS love him anyway :)

    Those two are a great couple, can't wait for their album to come out!

  • It's not an interview, its an excerpt from Steven Wilson's documentary Insurgentes.

  • where the rest of this interview , homie?

  • That.. was.. AWESOME!

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