I feel bad for him. Everybody would respect him so much more if he was just graceful for his contributions. He just like a baby. He likes shitting on everybody -himself included.
not sure. google search. ross is just an ass that verbally attacks the lovesystem guys. He doesn't agree with negging. He says the guys are learning to mistreat women. Women like to be lead in positive forceful manner, not abused.
The Love Systems guys came off way better and way more normal than Ross. They come off as normal guys having fun whereas Ross came off as this evil subversive guy. Ross would make himself look a bit better by saying the standard "Those guys are cool and I like what they do. But my stuff is more powerful and for the people who want to get REALLY good."
I will admit Iam glad you got a bad rap in the book "the game" because you too good for the little puppies.They could not repect your wisdom.I would love to see you give Dr Phill an on the air mentally bitch slap of his life.
I plan to meet you one day and shake your hand and share some laughter with you.Your a great man.Much repect
"Authenticity: What Consumers Really Want" by Gilmore
4) It is your perception which causes the negative response from your audience. Much harm has been done but what is worst that in your posted videos that is how you are, the words you choose, the mindset you project is loaded with negative connotations and hence really harms your brand. It hurts to watch you digging your own fate in such unfortunate ways.
1) "Totally beating the crap out of Dr Phil". For somebody who teaches positive mindset this seems awfully negative
2) While I agree with your basic view on MM and Nick, I have to say that you are just as bad in spinning your approach into a positive light. Why? Be real. Be proud. Be positive. If you have to spin your message maybe it is time to re-think what you are all about. It is NLP and it is manipulation. So what? The intention is what decides on the moral shade.
Overall, the show was misinformed, overly critical, and completely open to any kind of interpretation depending on who saw it. The show played out like a bunch of angry finger-pointers and aggressive advertising.
See, Ross is like the frail, nerdy guy who's into math club and D&D, and Dr. Phil is like the big dumb jock that picks on him and makes fun of him. And this show was like watching two children fighting on the playground.
Ross came across as a total argumentative douche-bag on Dr. Phil. He proceeded to throw the guy's from the "rival seduction school" under the bus to try to change the subject when Phil was busting him on his over the top advertising. It was embarrassing!
No I agree with Chikhat. Whenever Phil would bust on him, instead of trying to show good qualities about his methed he would instead try to make the mystery method look bad instead. Thus making himself look like a total failure.
Does anyone have the footage of Ross Jefferies on Dr. Phil? I missed it...maybe because I don't like watching Dr. Phil. I am, however, interested in seeing the footage.
Ross is the greatest. He ain't pretty. And he's quite crude. But also pure genius. And even aside from pickin up the beyotches -- his stuff is remarkable for business!
I barely tried a couple things that I half-learned - and could totally tell when I'm communicating well w/ clients, and they're responding well.
Mystery is terrific -- but Ross' mind-tricks are mind-blowing.
hate both groups... ross jefferies is a douche cuz he was just talking in circles... and savoy from the mystery method is stupid as well as a douche too... who in the community doesn't know wut the hell a full close is?? he that good of a student when mystery taught him be4 he left that company i guesse
i hope you guys know ross is one of the biggest douchebags in the seduction community. if you want an attractive frame/personality don't be like ross i hate to say it. don't mysterys method is effective.
@varsityeagle89 - I'm not sure myself but if I got hit on by someone who was trained with the concept of "negs" he'd, at the very least, be wearing my drink, and that would be all he'd have of me. "Mystery" (God, not only do these guys not have the balls to walk up to a woman and have a HONEST convo w/o tricks, but they name themselves stupid nicknames like 5 year old superhero wannabes?) et al suck. RJ, not so much. At least he believes in showing respect to a woman, w/o needless insults.
@JHandcock1111 first of all i promise you that if its done right you wouldn’t know your being neged second of all there is nothing honest about a woman when they go out why on earth should any man be "honest" with you, every time you put on lipstick or change your hair colour or put on a push up bra you’re not being honest so please don't give us that shit about HONESTY no woman is every honest in order to deserve honesty.
@JHandcock1111 But here is me being honest with you if you are as bitter in real life as you sound in this post you don’t ever have to worry about being neged no true PUA will come within a mile of you any way.
it was pretty obvious dr phil was going to make you out as the bad guy while the mm scammers sat their trying to take the moral high ground after they ripped off mystery. that savoy guy deserves a serious ass whipping. oh and dr phat loose some weight!!
and is it just me or does savoy sound really gay??
I can personally attest to the fact that not only is jeffries The Wickedest Man In The World, but he is also better at peacocking than Elton John was in the 1970s. He uses a special mind control technique to create a Residual Self Image, which infiltrates the unconscious mind of everyone in his vicinity leading them to desire STEAMY, BED-RIPPING COFFEE!
Ross Jeffries handled all of the attacks surprisingly well, considering the fact that he was on national television and all of the people surrounding him there wanted to make him look bad. He might have gotten a little too confrontational too soon, but at least he was able to stay articulate and clear when he had to explain his own methods. And at least later on Dr. Phil got to see that SS was coming from somewhere credible when he realized that Ross based everything on NLP.
the mm guys didn't look cooler, They looked like losers pretending to be cool. I use to thing the mm was cool until I saw the pick up artist. Yeah mm works by turning yourself into a robot and pretending your Vince Von in swingers. But ss you don't have to emulate RJ for it to be successful. Taping in to a womans emotions is creepy? Like mm is not? You guys are such fucking hypocrites and have no respect for the guy that started the whole thing. fuck yall.
Just saw it... Hmmm kinda weird how little they actually went into stuff. You did awesome Ross! The story at the end with the woman who was conned out of money had no connection and made no sense whatsoever to the topic that they began the show with.
I feel bad for him. Everybody would respect him so much more if he was just graceful for his contributions. He just like a baby. He likes shitting on everybody -himself included.
CARR0TCAKESUCKS 2 months ago 2
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I got the video with Ross and Dr Phil, at my channel. check it out!
uploadmanagerful 1 year ago
You try Ross,you try.
Still a litle boy tough.
6Eulogy6 1 year ago
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vtotheyouknow 2 years ago
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vtotheyouknow 2 years ago
where can i find the actual ross' drphil appearance vid?
neeachan 2 years ago 3
@neeachan - I can't find it anywhere either. Sounds really interesting.
ElliotWoolf 2 years ago 2
i found it after all.
cant remember where.
wasnt that interesting
ross talked about creepy nlp shit
and everyone was like "ross=creep"
he tried to diss luvsystms but failed hard.
neeachan 2 years ago 3
not sure. google search. ross is just an ass that verbally attacks the lovesystem guys. He doesn't agree with negging. He says the guys are learning to mistreat women. Women like to be lead in positive forceful manner, not abused.
b29349 2 years ago
The Love Systems guys came off way better and way more normal than Ross. They come off as normal guys having fun whereas Ross came off as this evil subversive guy. Ross would make himself look a bit better by saying the standard "Those guys are cool and I like what they do. But my stuff is more powerful and for the people who want to get REALLY good."
mildseven2006 2 years ago 11
yeah, i agree.
The love systems guys, come off better, Ross didn't have enough time to really explain what he was doing and it came off creepy
fuck, win some lose some
LordVigeous666999 2 years ago
Much Love and respect Ross.
I will admit Iam glad you got a bad rap in the book "the game" because you too good for the little puppies.They could not repect your wisdom.I would love to see you give Dr Phill an on the air mentally bitch slap of his life.
I plan to meet you one day and shake your hand and share some laughter with you.Your a great man.Much repect
eddiedaskull 2 years ago
"Authenticity: What Consumers Really Want" by Gilmore
4) It is your perception which causes the negative response from your audience. Much harm has been done but what is worst that in your posted videos that is how you are, the words you choose, the mindset you project is loaded with negative connotations and hence really harms your brand. It hurts to watch you digging your own fate in such unfortunate ways.
5) Look at Neil and how his authenticity shows
6) Stay positive
7) All the best Ross!
h2ombre 2 years ago 2
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To Ross
1) "Totally beating the crap out of Dr Phil". For somebody who teaches positive mindset this seems awfully negative
2) While I agree with your basic view on MM and Nick, I have to say that you are just as bad in spinning your approach into a positive light. Why? Be real. Be proud. Be positive. If you have to spin your message maybe it is time to re-think what you are all about. It is NLP and it is manipulation. So what? The intention is what decides on the moral shade.
3) Listen more
h2ombre 2 years ago
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h2ombre 2 years ago
Ross looks like someone's creepy uncle.
JohnnyUndaunted 3 years ago 25
When was the last time Ross smelled some star ass?
einarabelc5 3 years ago 3
blacklabelseduction "dot" com/dr-phil-women-beware
the link works. make sure to make the "dot" into a "." and remove all spaces
maxxsee 3 years ago
ross is a great guy. just stupid ppl who say otherwise
maxxsee 3 years ago
I coudn't fucking watch it.. Ihad to read the whole fucking script of the show..
KGNstaff 3 years ago
exaaactely ! sam thing happened to me I couldn't watch it :/
maxxsee 3 years ago
I can't find ross on the dr phil show anywhere. Anyone know where I can watch his bit?
Hornfinger 3 years ago
Overall, the show was misinformed, overly critical, and completely open to any kind of interpretation depending on who saw it. The show played out like a bunch of angry finger-pointers and aggressive advertising.
See, Ross is like the frail, nerdy guy who's into math club and D&D, and Dr. Phil is like the big dumb jock that picks on him and makes fun of him. And this show was like watching two children fighting on the playground.
Alejandro831 3 years ago
And that's why I like Dr. Paul some much. A true Psychiatrist.A true man.
einarabelc5 3 years ago
Ross came across as a total argumentative douche-bag on Dr. Phil. He proceeded to throw the guy's from the "rival seduction school" under the bus to try to change the subject when Phil was busting him on his over the top advertising. It was embarrassing!
chikhat 3 years ago
not it wasn't. you are. ross is great =)
maxxsee 3 years ago
No I agree with Chikhat. Whenever Phil would bust on him, instead of trying to show good qualities about his methed he would instead try to make the mystery method look bad instead. Thus making himself look like a total failure.
mysticrican86 3 years ago
Does anyone have the footage of Ross Jefferies on Dr. Phil? I missed it...maybe because I don't like watching Dr. Phil. I am, however, interested in seeing the footage.
terrorfan24 3 years ago
Ross is the greatest. He ain't pretty. And he's quite crude. But also pure genius. And even aside from pickin up the beyotches -- his stuff is remarkable for business!
I barely tried a couple things that I half-learned - and could totally tell when I'm communicating well w/ clients, and they're responding well.
Mystery is terrific -- but Ross' mind-tricks are mind-blowing.
you2449 3 years ago
I'd be interested to meet this fella in person
he does like the natural game gurus like vin dicarlo, I'm actually curious what RJ's actual views are. RJ - if you read this, msg me on youtube.
UrbanPoet 3 years ago
hate both groups... ross jefferies is a douche cuz he was just talking in circles... and savoy from the mystery method is stupid as well as a douche too... who in the community doesn't know wut the hell a full close is?? he that good of a student when mystery taught him be4 he left that company i guesse
motownkrazy 3 years ago
You mean, before they stole the company from mystery?
Danielwah90 3 years ago
yea be4 they stole it from him
motownkrazy 3 years ago
i hope you guys know ross is one of the biggest douchebags in the seduction community. if you want an attractive frame/personality don't be like ross i hate to say it. don't mysterys method is effective.
tomdamho 3 years ago 4
jeffries, ur a scumbag
AwakenAnimus 3 years ago 4
hey is there something we dont know about ross or something?? cuz everybody keeps hating on him and idunno why??
varsityeagle89 3 years ago
read The Game. hes a bitter manipulating freak
AwakenAnimus 3 years ago
@varsityeagle89 - I'm not sure myself but if I got hit on by someone who was trained with the concept of "negs" he'd, at the very least, be wearing my drink, and that would be all he'd have of me. "Mystery" (God, not only do these guys not have the balls to walk up to a woman and have a HONEST convo w/o tricks, but they name themselves stupid nicknames like 5 year old superhero wannabes?) et al suck. RJ, not so much. At least he believes in showing respect to a woman, w/o needless insults.
JHandcock1111 7 months ago
@JHandcock1111 first of all i promise you that if its done right you wouldn’t know your being neged second of all there is nothing honest about a woman when they go out why on earth should any man be "honest" with you, every time you put on lipstick or change your hair colour or put on a push up bra you’re not being honest so please don't give us that shit about HONESTY no woman is every honest in order to deserve honesty.
ProphetofLoki 4 months ago
@JHandcock1111 But here is me being honest with you if you are as bitter in real life as you sound in this post you don’t ever have to worry about being neged no true PUA will come within a mile of you any way.
ProphetofLoki 4 months ago
where can i watch the show????
leobrouwer 3 years ago
Kinda reminds me of Doc Brown from Back to the Future... GREAT SCOT!
JohnADreams777 3 years ago
hey ross i like you and your stuff.
ignore the haters they just don t understand.
keep at it you re doing great....
it was pretty obvious dr phil was going to make you out as the bad guy while the mm scammers sat their trying to take the moral high ground after they ripped off mystery. that savoy guy deserves a serious ass whipping. oh and dr phat loose some weight!!
and is it just me or does savoy sound really gay??
entouragevip 3 years ago 3
I can personally attest to the fact that not only is jeffries The Wickedest Man In The World, but he is also better at peacocking than Elton John was in the 1970s. He uses a special mind control technique to create a Residual Self Image, which infiltrates the unconscious mind of everyone in his vicinity leading them to desire STEAMY, BED-RIPPING COFFEE!
raid0422 3 years ago
This guy's a creep.
IcyScythe 3 years ago 3
it was a great show defently check it out.
ryancn77 3 years ago
Asfar as Im concerned RJ is the king of inner game and confidence also a little "persuasion" never hurts but the guy gots a huge ego
jhottie07 3 years ago 2
Ross Jeffries handled all of the attacks surprisingly well, considering the fact that he was on national television and all of the people surrounding him there wanted to make him look bad. He might have gotten a little too confrontational too soon, but at least he was able to stay articulate and clear when he had to explain his own methods. And at least later on Dr. Phil got to see that SS was coming from somewhere credible when he realized that Ross based everything on NLP.
Alejandro831 3 years ago
If you want to see this episode it's here:
blacklabelseduction "dot" com/dr-phil-women-beware
All the in-fighting was just sad, both schools were trying to make each other look devious and manipulative.
raid0422 3 years ago
thanks for the lliinnkk!!!
Andybaby 3 years ago
raid wrote:
If you want to see this episode it's here:
blacklabelseduction "dot" com/dr-phil-women-beware
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Thankyou so much raid I FINALLY got to see the video I've searched the web for it. I thought Ross did a good job overall. Thanks for this man!!
maxxsee 3 years ago
the mm guys didn't look cooler, They looked like losers pretending to be cool. I use to thing the mm was cool until I saw the pick up artist. Yeah mm works by turning yourself into a robot and pretending your Vince Von in swingers. But ss you don't have to emulate RJ for it to be successful. Taping in to a womans emotions is creepy? Like mm is not? You guys are such fucking hypocrites and have no respect for the guy that started the whole thing. fuck yall.
iamwarrior99 3 years ago
Damn I missed it... could someone post it?
betterself 3 years ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
Post it on youtube!
Dynaverse 3 years ago 3
I missed the episode. is it posted on youtube?
allasalle 3 years ago
Just saw it... Hmmm kinda weird how little they actually went into stuff. You did awesome Ross! The story at the end with the woman who was conned out of money had no connection and made no sense whatsoever to the topic that they began the show with.
quantumtaoist 3 years ago
Kick Dr Phil's sorry arse! Gods those comments in the message board make me wanna kick his nuts.
Spread the word!
Pizzero83 3 years ago
Good to see that the father of the seduction community is still getting the airtime that he deserves. Give them hell Ross!
guwatagui 3 years ago
You are the man!!!!
Tactikalguy1 3 years ago