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  • IF WHITE KIDS IS SO SMART WY THEY DONT ASK THEY PARENTS WY BLACK PEOPLE CAN NOT BE THEY NEYBOR ITS SO MANY WHITE KIDS THAT DONT SEE THE PREJUDISM OF THEY PARENTS THATS NOT SMART

  • Anyway, it's a load of bollocks that all white people go to private school, we go to public school, same as everyone else, except for a few posh knobs. Blacks may have a lower IQ because (some of them) bunk off, fucking up the data for all of them. 

  • learn to spell, you retard...

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    well, let's start with spelling score properly.

  • @seanincali1

    lol

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  • ELMO IS A BLACK MAN!

  • People... yes. Race probably does affect intelligence just like it effects athletic ability and musical talent. White people are no better than Black people.

    Look at all of the great things that black Americans have done for music and sports. In fact, modern music would be nowhere near what it is today without the incredible talent and creativity from African Americans. Quit trying to be superior. We're not. We're all human.

  • @ASwiftHippie black people definitely did a lot for sport, but they destroyed the music industry...

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  • @ASwiftHippie

    its called stereotype for a reason, some blacks are good at sports, I'm not and I'm black, however I excelled at school, but couldn't rap or dunk a basket ball to save my life. A good analogy would be when people thought only whites where serial killers and child molesters, in fact a'lot of innocent white men went to jailed because of ignorant stereotypes like the ones you support. On the flip side a'lot of black serial killers and child molesters got off for the dumbest reasons.

  • @howareyou608 sorry this is a reply to the reply you made to me before-couldn't find it on the page. Rock was invented in the uk in the 80s (a mostly white country... at the time, anyway) which eventually evolved into metal.yea. but by destroying the music industry i just meant rap, as the last couple of generations of blacks were really creative & made some amazing stuff, but fairly recently they fucked up. by inventing rap,& along with it come the modern stereotype of black people :(

  • @Gothicrimsonone don't get me wrong, I'll make an exception where epic rap battles are concerned :D

  • @Gothicrimsonone the most successful rap artist is white in american and in Russia, and no uk history book says the uk invented rock in the 80's. Elvis would like a word with you. Plus when rock first came out they said it was evil and ruining the minds of youth now they say it about rap, by the year 2050 it will be a new type of music ruining our youth, grow up its just music

  • @NiggerBabble90210 You bring conspiracy theories to an intelligence debate?LOL

  • @NiggerBabble90210 Dude.. your just a ghetto babboon with no education filling in the gaps with nonsense.

  • @Raybanmonster LOGICAL FALLACY: Ad hominem

    Debater cannot answer the point so introduces irrelevant assertions about his opponent.

  • @RaybansGoneApeshit But you care enough to create an account in my honour.. notice that? Do I create one about you? Doesn't that tell you the pecking order between us clown?

  • @Raybanmonster If I create a sign saying "kick me I am a retard" and pin it to someone, is it in "their honour". Nice try at reverse psychology. Fail.

  • @ApeInRaybans another account created in my honour. The reason surely must be that you are fascinated with what I have to say.. and that would be true... but I would never do that for you.. because unfortunately you to me are not all that fascinating.

  • @Raybanmonster You've got groupies? I'm jealous, LMAO...I was in stitches and about to piss myself when I saw that username. What kind of loser does that! LOL

  • @Raybanmonster The "honour" keeps coming. Must be your lucky day, and weeks, and years.....

  • @CHIMPINGinRAYBANS yep but notice how I dont waste my time chasing you with myu time? lol.. white Nigger Gibbon jub jub obsessed with my brilliance that he spent his precious white time angry and focused on creating an account with the email and wffort required to do so with password and similar. Fucking beautiful.. keep chasing me clown whilst I keep you at arms length in an intellectual holding pattern, addressing you only when Im ready. lmfao!!

  • @Raybanmonster Why would you chase someone who destroys every lame point you come up with?

  • @NEGROIDOLOGY I wouldnt know... but you keep creating accounts and coming back to me for more so only you can answer that question, my racist Youtube stalker

  • I know two year old kids that sound more intelligent than you.

  • Dude I taught myself college algebra in 2 months.. I never even went to high school....

  • Read a fucking book yourself.

  • @7shocker

    Black r not from africa their ancestors are and if we were then we would all have very strong accents. And thats what u think all blacks are poor and ghetto right. Im friends with a lot of white kids and i act just like they. Im not ghetto. Its the way you are raised!!!!! If you r raised in a ghetto crackhead house you are probably going to be a ghetto crackhead. ( in some cases) If you r born in a house that is the absolute opposite of ghetto you are probably going to be the abso

  • @christoffercollin

    Im smarter than all the kids in my class and there r only three black kids not including me !! I am black!!!!! Im at the reading level of a grown up and im a fourth grader!!!!!!!! Its not genetics its that a lot of black kids now days dont try!!!!!!!! So what your'e basicly saying is. "if ur born white ur smart, but if ur born black ur stupid!!!!! I take that very offinsevly!!!!!!! And dont think just cuz imma 10 year old i cant stand up for me and every other black pers

  • You're people are what your problem is. Always will be. It'll never change.

  • last i checked blacks and whites were allowed to attend the same schools for the past 40 years?????

  • Why dont blacks face the fact that they are genetically inferior in terms of intelligence? That the average black is unintelligent does not mean that all blacks are (nor that all whites are intelligent). Its a scientific fact, just like the fact that men are (on average) stronger than women).

  • @ChristofferCollin Why can't you face the fact that your nihilistic beliefs has been effectively refuted by other Race and Intelligence gurus? Are blacks to ignore other(Geneticist) studies or act as though other studies don't exist, and consent to whites being smarter? Totally stupid question you've asked, and proving IQ tests doesn't measure very much

  • The reason why white students get better scores than black student is because the amount of stress on the African American community, the stress of poverty, the stress of being a discriminated minority, the history of racism, and the amount of violence on the African American community, but stress is the main reason, the less stress students are the ones who get the best grades.

  • @panamanubian LOL, scientific studies show this or you just came up with it? :)

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  • @Raybanmonster take such a huge number of what?

  • @auspol04 please catch up

  • @Raybanmonster pls make some sense, look at iq statistics before typing non sense and for some reason blacks all over the world seem to be the same

  • @auspol04 Your showing your lack of intellect, how ironic under the video subject

  • @Raybanmonster oh your trying to sound smart not working buddy

  • @auspol04 I dont need to try, I am smart... and very proud of the work it took to get there.. I do not need your approval to know this about me you supercilious clown.

  • @Raybanmonster dummy says what?

  • @auspol04 yawn..

  • You're just the typical "feel bad for me" black degenerate that gives your whole race a bad name. Why take responibility for the short comings in your community when you can just blame it on white people, right? You're a joke, you have all the tools you need to better yourselves. Yet you choose to chase money and materialistc things before anything else. Chase respect and "street cred" before your own education and future. I have not one bit of pitty for you. Stop trying to pass the buck.

  • I'm pretty sure most schools teach close to the same corriculum. I don't think theres that big of a difference between teachings that would lead to such a difference in scores. Maybe it has something to do with how black kids act in school, as opposed to how white kids act in school. Which would in turn lead one to the mentality of the students, which leads to the lifestyle out of school. Teachers can teach at higher levels depending on the learning apptitude of the students, not the color.

  • Where's the comparison between "Black" public school students & "White" public school students? White kids being taught Algebra, Geometry & Trigonometry by the 3rd & 4th grade? My youngest daughter is a public High School Freshman. She didn't do Algebra or Geometry until 5th & 6th grades but my kids educated themselves online. She had learned Calculus over the summer before entering High School, next year she'll start a dual enrollment College Program. It comes down to student motivation.

  • iq tests are based on things you dont need to be taught

  • we are blinded because we look at the world through a "racial" spectrum, if you look at our surroundings in terms of poor vs rich, then you will see that the correlation is in fact, not racial, but along lines of poverty and rich.

  • @leejay202 that is right.

  • You are a stupid fucking idiot. Look at how loud and ignorantly silly you get. I'm sorry; blacks are not capable of the same amount of memory retention as Whites or, especially, Asians. And I personally don't believe they have the same capacity for advanced thinking either. Without Whites or Asians we wouldn't have advanced space exploration; state-of-the-art medical science; world trade and commerce... I could go on and on. I feel shame and embarrassment at blacks' contributions to the world.

  • I'm White, went to a public school, and got ALL THE SAME EDUCATION AS THE OTHER KIDS. As I went through high school, I excelled; and, Ironically the black people got fewer and fewer in high level courses. I'm NOT saying all white people are perfect; however, because some of the dumbest people I know are white. Black people are exactly the same, intelligence wise, they just tend not to apply it.

  • OK... White people are smarter and black people can jump. That's just the way it is.

  • Your argument is subjective. No facts, no stats, no nothing. These iq tests have been administered AROUND the world and blacks still score the lowest. Look at africa. Thats where you came from. The place is a shit hole just like the ghettos in the u.s. Blacks will only gain in intelligence as you mix your blood with other races making us all inherently dumb

  • Regarding the poorly spelled notes on the ochre cardboard introducing the above video regarding IQ's of blacks and Whites - all this BS that Whites are given a higher level of education and that's what they score better. And black kids were never taught this information.How can you teach black students who have dropped out of school? I love when blacks FINALLY admit they score lower on IQ tests that Whites BUT have excuses - why not blame slavery>

  • @DeathBloodGore

    Sephardic Jews score a 91 IQ

    Ashkenazi Jews in America seem to score roughly a 110 IQ

    Ashkenazi Jews in Israel score a 103 IQ

    that is roughly a 106 - 107 IQ

    Richard Lynn recently showed Germany & the Netherlands scored a 107 IQ

    Poland scored a 106 IQ

    Polish Americans scored a 109 IQ in the 1970's

    Seems Polish people actually have the higher IQ

    that Ashkenazi jews gained a higher IQ than Sephardic Jews from mixing with Polish genes.

  • No truth to this blacks cant succeed at a higher education. Inner city schools get more funding than most white affluent town schools.

  • @DeathBloodGore I see they removed your comment I missed it care to repeat it , I will try to moniter it

  • Umm ,moron, blacks and whites go to the same schools and if there is by chance a predominantly white school the liberals take care of that with buses, so blacks and whites learn from the same teachers.. You niggers are just stupid and lazy you all think you're going be a running black or cRAPper.. Apply yourselves and you will be amazed at your own accomplishments.

  • @ smog7

    Riiight... Yea when you make a point, not only are you supposed to realize,... Well,... that you've actually made a point but also grasp the true meaning of what you've said. That's ok, you can always hang out with the guy that made this video. After all it could be fun. You guys can share crayooons, play with legooos, and most important, be homo's TOGETHER. Just be sure to wear your helmet, it's tough out there little buddy.

  • @TNMarksman Don't blame me for your poor comprehension skills and don't blame your self either it's not your fault it's genectics

  • I wish to thank all the Pussy Politicians who allowed a handful of black "leaders" and groups to push Ronald Regan into making Martin Luther Kings' Birthdays a PAID FEDERAL HOLIDAY, along with Independence Day, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, Presidents Day, Election Day, Christmas, New Years Day and Columbus Day. So which one REALLY doesn't belong here? Which doesn't really celebrate a *NATIONAL* holiday? Yes,Columbus Day and Jesus' and Kings' birthdays. See how much we Whites like you blacks?!?!?

  • @DeathBloodGore Santa does not live in the North pole any more,he now resides in China

  • @procnet1 Only a handfull of caucasion people have changed the world in discovery inventions,science,astronomy,p­hysics,math,engineering,flight­,space,etc,etc,etc,the masses have done absulutely nothing benificial for mankind  You Duncecap

  • - st IQ test focus primarily on fluid intelligence or COMMON SENSE not academic knowledge or crystallized knowledge.

  • @TNMarksman He is pointing out what your saying,seems you missed it Duncecap

  • The guy that made this clip and about 99% of everyone else completely miss the mark. To paraphrase what he says in the video, things like black kids haven't been exposed to higher education. Well exactly who is supposed to expose them to it? He says an overwhelming majority of black kids live in the ghetto. Who's fault is that? The fact is white people crafted the educational systems of the developed world. It's not our fault that other parts of the world are incapable of doing the same. Btw mo

  • @TNMarksman He is ponting out exactly what you are saying, you Dwarf Star

  • the only way to test this would be to get a couple of kids of each race and give them equal oppertunitys and see. all races are different and if u look at if from a large picture it seems that countries with majority white avance more quickly tech wise than countries with black majority, on the other hand i see that black people naturaly dominate sports and are in genraly in better pysical condition than majority of whites. this could all be just the case of what enviroment you have had to adapt

  • @CraigRidley1 Only a handfull of caucasion people have changed the world in discovery,inventions,science,a­stronomy,physics,math,engineer­ing,flight,space,etc,etc,etc,,­the rest of you asshole have done absolutely nothing for mankind in others words your not any more special then the masses of any other race

  • @DeathBloodGore Jews' ancestry can be traced to the Caucasus mountains. Didn't you know that?

    Most of the developed island nations were developed by white people, weren't they?

  • If you tell yourself that the top professional and managerial jobs in this country require an IQ of at least 115 or thereabouts, then you also have to tell yourself that only about 2.5 percent of blacks appear able to compete for those jobs. The comparable figure for whites would be about 16 percent. Total black population with IQs over 115: 800,000. Comparable figure for whites: about 30 million. If blacks had the same IQ distribution as whites, the black total would be over 5 million.

  • @TheTempleofEthan A lot of qualified blacks dont get the jobs you'r talking about is because of race give the sources of your statistics

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  • @TheSmog7 True. And lack of intelligence and poor speaking and communication skills. My statistics are from "Black-White IQ Differences" by Daniel Seligman

  • @TheTempleofEthan I think i't foolish to put all your (eggs or knowledge into one basket) I would have more then one opinion pro & con before I made a public statement this subject is extremely controverial

  • @TheSmog7 Well thats the difference between you and I you ball less creep. Most of the Afrocentrics who post or show Videos here MAKE UP what they are preaching. I find one source is quite adequate for this forum. And I don't know where you have been for the past 50 years but discussion/controversy about Black/White IQ differences is HARDLY controversial today - the same discussion will last forever. I won't dwell upon your spelling errors - I assume English is NOT your first language.

  • @TheTempleofEthan Stupid white people are embarrassing to white people as nigger are to black people I'm just tired of the shit and you , your the pot calling the kettle black,why are you on this site,Shooting the messenger doesn't effect the nightmare of a truth you apprently can't deal with since your whole exiistance is dependent on sinbad fables you can cuss me out in tounges still want change the situation that prevails

    I admit being a lousey typo generating typist,

  • @TheSmog7 Old man - are you as boring in real life as you are here? You hit me with neither strength nor with and yet you think you are fighting with me. I can tell we have NOTHING in common - there is NOTHING you can teach me. You have become a stalker. You bore me so much I won't even type my extra 187 characters . . .

  • @TheTempleofEthan Your like a broken record,still attacking the messenger,sliping and sliding and evading you must be good dam dancer

  • @TheSmog7 "I;m sorry, Ethan is not available at this time. Please leave a message and he will get back to you when he has the time"

  • @TheTempleofEthan There is a scientific controversy,whether or not homosapians destroyed neanderthals or mated with them I never could decide untill now you are making me lean towards mating, Numb Skull

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  • @TheSmog7 Where HAVE you been grandpa? There is NO controversy, It seems 35,000-65,000 years ago modern man migrated from Africa. Some wandered East and into the Mid-East and Asia. Others migrated North East into Europe as Neanderthal Man was dying off. However Modern Man did mix with Neanderthals in Europe. As a result Neanderthal genes make up 1-4% of the DNA in all living Humans besides Sub-Saharan Africans. Ass Hole Old Man - go count your liver spots and leave me alone.

  • @TheTempleofEthan The scientest that say we destroyed them are as brilliant as the scientest that said we didn't so your deciding blind no matter what you choose,thats why they called it a controversy vaporish one

  • @TheSmog7 Have you thought of running for Miss America? Your insights are as deep as Miss America contestants. HOW do YOU know which scientists are "brilliant"? Is there a book that rates scientists by their brilliancy? I am sticking with my remarks - yours are too pussyfootish.

  • @TheTempleofEthan Being pussy foolish beats being a pussy

  • @TheSmog7 It was in comparison to you miss model with studio,the subject is sill controversy

  • @TheTempleofEthan That comment you said eat me, I wouldn't eat you with your boy friends mouth

  • @TheSmog7 Golly Gee Pops - that's so original and funny. I bet you came up with that faster than an erection.You could try it with chop stix ! Now quit stalking me you old piece of worthless shit.

  • @TheTempleofEthan Now quit stalking me,you wish,I'm' not gay, frankenstein,female brain in a male body,your as big a mistake as two headed snake pussy willow

  • @TheSmog7 You make as much sense as a mad man locked away in a Mental Institution. Note: I shall no longer respond to any of your comments to me. Take a Lithium and go to bed.

  • @TheTempleofEthan Take your aids medication and pray

  • @TheTempleofEthan

    The fossil evidence supports we evolved from Homo Erectus.

    the fossil evidence supports the Multiregional Hypothesis.

    The Genetic dates don't fit.

    Recently they have said close to 5,000 yrs ago White skin, Lactose Tolerence & Blue Eyes came to be.

    Impossible.

    You can't have these traits come about 5,000 yrs ago & become the majority in many parts of Europe.

    Especially when the evidence suggests Europeans were isolated into different camps during the Ice age

  • @IKiLLNRapeCOMMUNISTS What THEY say are but Afrocentrics MYTHS - distorted and manipulated statistics to supports their lies. And their audience falls for it!. WE were in areas of Europe during the last Ice Age, after the Neanderthal Man has vanished.Neanderthals had brains larger than modern humans so IF we did "diddle" with them, good! I love when you hear "there are more Whites on welfare than blacks - OF COURSE - we are 76.8% of the population and they but 12.6%, MATH!

  • @TheTempleofEthan

    Ice age Europe forced us to develope larger brains in order to sew better clothes, make better shelter.

    be more aware of the highly unstable, hostile & changing enviroment.

  • @IKiLLNRapeCOMMUNISTS WE evolved!!!! Modern humans began to migrate away from the tropics of Africa to the north where they were exposed to less intense sunlight, possibly in part due to the need for greater use of clothing to protect against the colder climate. Our lighter skin was able to generate more vitamin D than darker skin so it represented a health benefit. Our facial features changed, become more refined. It appears we continued to evolved while Africans stopped.

  • @TheTempleofEthan That actually isn't the reason white skin came about new research shows.

  • @TheTempleofEthan Neanderthal totally didn't "die off". New DNA evidence shows that they actually interbreed with modern day human euroasians.

  • @TheTempleofEthan Oh sorry about last reply. I replied to you without fully reading your entire post.

  • @alique087 OK _ And modern non-blacks have 1-4% Neanderthal in their DNA. They had large brain cavities and were a physically strong species. From an reconstructions I have seen they were rather frightening. But thank God for positive evolution!

  • These tests are of cognative ability, and it's not about "school stuff". It's pattern recognition and so on for the most part.

    Remember, black Americans do far better than black Africans. This is partly because of the white DNA that most black Americans are carrying around with them. In fact, they're about halfway between whites and Africans.

  • @gvman3670 I'm from missouri show me proof

  • African Americans are so different genetically from africans, they have in average about 20% european ancestry. I read that in a genetic study article on the internet. 20% is a big percentage it is a little less than having a white grandfather or grandmother (25%).

  • @heavyrules6699 a genetic study article don't mean shit if you can't verify your to stupid not to look up pros and cons morons like you is why the white race needs to have a stupid free race

  • @TheSmog7 What are you talking about????? who talked about pros and cons??? who said that it is a good thing or bad thing to have 20% white genes??? and what do u mean by free race???

    And verify what ?? this a Lab test on the percentage of genetic markers specific to each race so it is verified.

  • @heavyrules6699 What lab, and what, part of you are a poster boy for white people need a idiot free race don't you understand numb skull

  • @TheSmog7 did your parents send you to school?

  • Actually I went to a predominant black public school and they taught us multiplication and in cursive writing in the 3rd grade.

  • IQ tests are mostly consisted of parts not involving education, they have memory sections and all kinds of stuff like where you have this pattern and you got to continue it. and anyway i dont consider inteligence all that important, id rather be really athletic (something that blacks excell in) than really intelligent.

  • @EliasJordan3 ..It takes intelligence to be good at sports too. Larry Bird for example wasn't very fast nor a high jumper etc...He played the game smart

  • @gmccall22 yessir! larry bird is the most badass player in history! before people saw him play they were all like "oh that white guy is pathetic im gonna take it easy" and then he'd totaly destroy them. larry was so badass he looks like a guy whos sitting on his couch drinking beer and yelling at the tv, but hes one of the best players in history. larry is so cool hes like totaly different from other nba players but they respected him cause he was sick.

  • @EliasJordan3 . Yeah Bird is one of the all time greats. His sidekick McHale wasn't very athletic either but great... Magic wasn't a great athlete either, yet one of the greatest..Unfortunately there are no current tests to measure Kinesthetic Intelligence, meaning handling objects skillfully and having a clear sense of timing and goal. Bird and Magic were very intelligent players

  • Whites nowadays have the same crappy education blacks do - just so that the blacks will keep up.

  • I believe in multiple intelligence. White might have higher IQ on an IQ test but the segment of a black person's brain can relate to more physical intelligence such as accuracy, strength, speed, coordination and such. Evolutionary adaptation created our brains to adapt in environment necessary for survival.

  • Apocrine bromhidrosis is more common in patients in dark-skinned ethnic groups than in others. That's genetics too.

    That's the reason the buggers like to splash on double doses of strong cologne.

    I can smell one of them from 50 feet away if the wind is right.

    for more information on their stench, google using search words: "emedicine" +"Bromhidrosis"+ "Author: Wingfield Rehmus, MD"

  • @DeSouzaPauloDeSouza .You keep trolling IQ videos with stupid stereotypes. Blacks can counter by saying how whites smell when wet but that doesn't apply to all whites...Your comments prove the IQ flaws

  • the IQ test has nothing to do with education.

  • I just wanted to say, until you know the facts, you shouldn't just assume white kids learn more than black kids. I went to PUBLIC school my entire life and i'm a white woman. I didn't learn Geometry until i was a sophomore in high school. I had many different races in my classes growing up as well, many of them being African American and they learned what i learned. Knowone is saying African Americans can't do what Caucasions can do. You are stating your 'opinion'. I have nothing against you.

  • @Lovestruck211.His argument is weak. It's about placement. Public and Private schools from 6th to 8th grade in New Jersey are given M.B.S. tests, Minimum Basic Skills twice per year. M.B.S. tests scores determine what classes you're placed in. One can take Geometry before high school. Blacks and Whites

  • You don't understand Mr Rushton's research because your cognitive ability is too low.

  • I dont understand how blacks dont receive the same education as whites. Its called PUBIC schools. Im white, i live in brooklyn. I dont see how ANYONE is treated any differently from their race. This video is just proof of people not knowing what their talking about.

  • @metalhead11209 Hey. What's up dude? I live in Brooklyn also; Canarsie.

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  • @CommonSense222 =)))...but truth  huuuurts so bad:)

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  • Surprisingly the rate of IQ increase for blacks are higher compared to whites which suggest some environmental factors to in effect here. So at the end of the day it comes down to yet another nature vs nurture debate. We're all entitled to have our own opinion on this matter. So there is in essence no purpose arguing over who is right or wrong. If you believe in something then you have to right to express them.

  • @raider968

    Fair enough. It'll be interesting to look back in another 50 years and see what IQ gains blacks have made with respect to whites. I wonder, if things don't end up being as rosy as the nurture-only crowd expects, will they concede the point? Or will they demand that we wait another 50 years while forking over more money for black education, black prisons, black housing, black welfare, racial quotas, etc.

  • @twk373.Oh, now it's fair enough ? There is still a debate and believing what you choose which is what I've been telling you the whole time. I guess you couldn't stand hearing it from a black person.

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  • @CommonSense222. Bad behavior ? You discredited IQ and yourself with your hideous stereotypes and your extensive use of the word NIGGER..

  • @gmccall22

    If you can't discern the material difference between you and raider, I'll be happy to enlighten you. Raider recognizes the strong possibility that intelligence is determined genetics in addition to the environment.

    You don't.

    Instead, you keep on claiming that our view is just a "perception" that has nothing to do with facts. Despite the fact that there is no credible alternative to the part-genetic hypothesis.

  • @twk373. Up until now you never mentioned "strong possibility" You said it was definitely genetic. And you said Flynn's research suggests it's definitely genetics. If he feels the gap is closing, how genetic can it be ? "possibly" a little... Rushton and Jensen are not geneticists, so why wouldn't i claim your view as a perception ? Possibilities require more research if one really wants to get to the bottom of it. And like Flynn said, it's trivial

  • @gmccall22

    Where did I say it's "definitely genetic," or previously comment on Flynn? Quote me.

    The fact remains that no one really understands what the Flynn effect is, or what it means. It's obvious that it can't continue indefinitely, nor can it be extrapolated backwards indefinitely. We'll just have to wait and see.

    The other fact that remains is that we still know next to nothing about human genetics; the point is that environment-only hypotheses cannot explain the IQ gap.

  • @gmccall22

    Think of it like evolution. There are some significant questions that evolutionary theory does not adequately answer. Does this mean that all of evolutionary theory is wrong? Does it mean that we should all become young earth creationists?

    No. We can admit that evolution has some problems, while also admitting that there isn't really any credible alternative.

    The same, by analogy, is true of the genetic + environment hypothesis.

  • @twk373. I don't know enough about the evolution process to think of it that way for now...I can think of it as adapting, making changes in ones environment to better suit ones needs, making changes within ones self in order to better adjust to ones surroundings. It's been suggested that racial variations are also clinial. Clinial in the old world appears as racial today....Go back to your messages. Read your own quotes. I doubt you really have to because you know already

  • @twk373 It's unfair to say evolution have "some problems" just because we do not fully understand the process.

  • At the end of the day it comes down to another  nature vs nurture debate. Both sides have convincing evidence so its up to you to make up your mind on the subject. Whether you think one race is smarter than another is up to you. If you makes you feel good knowing your race is better than another than go for it! The world is not going to end just because you say so!

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  • @CommonSense222 Yes I am aware of the low achievement in the test for the black population around the world. Statistics show that the average european has an IQ of 100 whereas a subsaharan would have an IQ score of 70. For an African American, the IQ score would be around 80-85. On that basis alone one may conclude that blacks are inferior mentally. However, going back to my previous posts, the IQ test is measure of one's ability to think in a logical manner.

  • @CommonSense222 How can they think logically if they've never seen a puzzle in their lives? Ofcourse genes play a role in intelligence. This is why when a bogan mates with another bogan, the offspring would be an Einstein. However how can we know if the child is dumb just because of his genes, and not how he's brought up?

  • This is why people like to give kids simple jigsaw puzzles or mazes; to train their ability to think and respond in a logically manner, which is exactly the attribute needed to succeed in an IQ test.

  • @raider968 Study shows puzzles and games do not increase IQ rates over the long run. You may see a small boost in the very short term, but eventually, the individual will regress towards their inherent IQ mean.

  • In my opinion, genetics is without a doubt a major factor that influence human intelligence. However that doesn't mean environmental or cultural factors wouldn't have an effect on our intelligence. When we are young, our brains are like sponges; soaking in the surrounding world without us even consciously knowing. With that said, kids living in family with high educational valves will definately have higher IQ score compared to kids living with "bogans".

  • You guys do realise that the IQ test is NOT measurement of educational background but rather a person's ability to interpret chaotic information and respond in a logical manner? For example typical questions in the test would be to identify the next number in a sequence, or to pick an object that fits logically within pattern. Therefore whether a person knows how to solve algebra, differentiate functions, or any of those stuff is irrelavent to contents of the IQ test itself.

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  • it's already proven that blacks have lower IQ independent of the social status of the parents.

    poor whites are about 20pts above poor blacks. rich whites are also 20pts above rich blacks.

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  • @bcroger2

    PLEASE, enough of the excuses. White people in America eats just as unhealthy food. Whites are more intelligent than blacks, just as blacks are better than whites in certain sports.

  • I personally think black people in USA and Europe are equally intelligent to white people, but it is so because they were born and grew up in advanced culture and society. Black people in Africa are unable to create stable constitutions and to establish order, probably because black people posseses sort of antisocial behaviour, not only against white society, against ANY society.

    There is no doubt that white people advanced in making a civilization.

    Still, blacks have equall potentional.

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  • @DictatorRoB

    There is strong evidence that Africans don't have the same intellectual potential as Europeans. Transracial adoption studies, where African children are raised in middle-class white homes, do not show any relative IQ gains. Thus it's hard to argue that intelligence has *no* genetic component.