Don't you worry. Have no fear. Jesus Christ will soon be here. He curses the rich and he blesses the poor. Yo-ho, he goes skipping, tra-la, through ancient Palestine, helping the needy and the oppressed. Ah, they've been saying that through two millenia. Well, where is he?
Happy Hello, James... I'm enjoying the viewing experiences of more of your vidz this day... Thanks again for the comment you left for aspergers vs neurotypical vid. I also find myself thinking while viewing your videos and the style of your vidz also keeps my mind from doing it usual drifting from the videos, so kudos :o)
There's been some debate about Genesis: The Bible is one thing & the oral tradition that it articulates is another. Genesis was crafted by priests who were up to something, but what they were up to was veiled. Ashheap (below) seems to think the subtlties of Genesis were once a matter of popular understanding, but somehow it all got lost.
No scholar would support that view. No rabbi would, either.
Small correction. I don't mean Jewish religion as a whole, since it is diverse. But orthodoxy, in all religions, is useless. Stagnant. It is simply not evolutionary.
I am at the same time essentially a pluralist. All ideas can be useful. None of them are the truth. I am certainly not a christian, but it seems that Yeshua, real or not, is a Buddha, and I respect all buddhas though I do not serve them.
"Facts" have little to do with definition. Facts usually deal in statistical probabilities.
The statistical fact is that the Hebrew word for day is specifically used as the entire process of 'creation'. The overall context is also a matter of statistics. Statistically, I would say that the the first few paragraphs of Genesis were probably written together. Factually speaking, Genesis uses the word for day to mean the entire creative process at 2:4.
@ashheap This is all about Gen. 2:4? Hey, for a minute I really thought I had to go back to my Hebrew reference books and may have actually missed something. At least where you're coming from with it is where some rabbis are coming from with it. Still, the old creation story, told verbally, always meant seven literal days, and then when it was written down, well, long story . . .
All things considered, The Lucifer Series is educating people. Bottom line. I've seen people criticize the series as 'basic' or something, but the basics are what keep artists great, keep thinkers practical, etc.
Its not particularly "funny". It is predictable. It changes nothing in regards to what actually is written in Genesis. Just as what is written in Genesis changes nothing in regards to the dogma of either Orthodox Jews or most Christians.
At any rate, my point is only intended as a footnote. Too often criticisms of religions which are based on beliefs forget that those beliefs conflict with the 'holy books' at which point the whole system is vulnerable.
@ashheap I'm all for peace, Ash, but I'm for facts, too. From time to time people glance at this page, and I'll stand with the facts. Youm means a 24 hour calandar day. Moreover, there's very little doubt in my mind that the creation story that was passed down verbally meant just that. Jewish people didn't get stupid suddenly and not realize what one of their old stories was saying. It was an oral tradition ages before it was written down.
Cerca :50 the idea of creation in 6 days is discussed. Their is a difference between what the Hebrew writer of Genesis actually said and what most fundamental Christians believe he said. "Day" in Genesis is YOHM, as in yohm kippur. It can mean a 24 hour day. But it can also mean any time period under consideration as a whole, such as in Gen 2:4 where the entire creative period is considered as a day (yohm). The division of chapters would not effect any interpretation since that was added later.
@ashheap Gee, Youm Kipper is a 24 hour fast, now isn't it? & funny Orthodox Jews see the days of creation as 24 hr. intervals, & funny these days have mornings to them & evenings even. I don't have a problem with people stretching some points on the creation myth, & the Qabalistic occult interpretation is a staple of mine, but again the standard interpretation is what it is, and that's the challenge being made here, the standard rap.
To Manche44's babble below, let me quote the verse he touts: "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then be assured that her ruin is pending."
Nothing about generations. In fact Jerusalem was surrounded by Roman armies not so long after the prophecy was made, and the temple was burned to the ground--but still no Second Coming.
you are a foolish man when ever JESUS preach he always say to the croud of people that he is coming very soon he did not want them to know that he will not return in their life time because if they know they will turn away from the faith because they will not be able to hold on any longer and then they will go to hell, but where are the believers now they are in heaven see? JESUS did it for their own good but JESUS told his disciples that many generations will pass before he returns luke21:20
The comments from Bone Shintai came in at different times, so I was responding piecemeal to it and not getting the whole thing.
I now reply to him point-for-point and number the replies accordingly, even though they are stacked in the opposite order that I intended!
The main thing is there is no other translation of the New Testament that gives the full story of Jesus or whatever. The New Testament was written in Greek, and is the same length in any translation.
You should also make a point to differentiate between the Old Testament, the magical/wonderful Jesus Years, and the New Testament .
People who use the English translated bibles are missing more than half the story and 99% of what Jesus was actually telling us.
Personally I like prophecy because its colorful, but as for the truth, any and all of it can be thrown away because of the power each man has given. What sucks is that people give away that power because...im sure they have their reasons.
So many people speak for Lucifer or the Satan, or they make up things that Jesus said because they are afraid to find out the truth that their soul makes them a son of the creator. The name God or Yahweh is only a moniker to hold on to, but in the end it is a prison, much like capitalism is a prison, or an aristocracy, or that kooky Illuminati which is real on a philosophical basis.
As for the return of Jesus. That was never up to anyone except that force that created Him. The Old Testament makes God more like a powerful King rather than the Buddhist state of creation as a whole. Jesus's actual words taken form the original Greek texts are much more powerful and relying on ethics rather than morals. I prefer Christ Jesus to any other philosopher/counselor because he wasn't selling anything.
But in the end, my personal beliefs are meaningless to anyone but my self and my own relationship with Creation. Satanism and Romanized Christianity all lose accountability and love their egos more than anything in the world. They stop searching for answers the moment they find something shiny then they parade it around like they invented it,or they have found some magical knowledge,when in fact they are "emotionally crippled" and want the same thing Lucifer once wanted.
(4): I think you paint too broad a brush by lumping Satanists in with Christians. At first I thought you meant Catholics, but you probably mean Christians who do not have your sense of the Gospels.
You generalize too much. You judge, and we both know those judgements end up square on your shoulders holding you back.
You mention on your page that your life goes worse after you post a video.
I'll try not to judge so much in the future and just let it be. Generalizations seem to me the unfortunate byproduct of philosophy, especially so when Nietzsche is being considered.
Honestly my intuition is telling me that those around me and those I call friends aren't that way anymore. They say they care and to them I owe a great deal of my life, but is it worth being in a toxic relationship with them?
I'm actually starting to see a pattern develop. Those around me are allowed to have their own opinions and arguments, but when it comes time for my point of view, mine is somehow invalid/ignored or the cause for much strife.
In the end I have to take fault for everything I do, and when I talk about depression and other feelings, again I am told that my problems are meaningless.
The worst part is, I have tried to show them how to be more aware, but they don't care.
The only way out is to accept my lot and keep on searching inward through any means necessary. It saddens me that spirituality has become an escape mechanism, which would mean that I'm going about this wrong way. Instead of escaping life I should embrace even those who shit on me. I should ignore the naysayers and remember that it's not their fault they are like that.They like to control everything in their lives, which means any opposition would lead to strife. Nothing I do will please them.
No, Bone, it's not about being the whipping boy, if that's really your actual situation and not just you being overly sensitive. It's about realizing that you don't like yourself, so how is anyone ever going to entirely accept you? Escaping into mystic fantasy and inwardness is, as you say, just what it is.
You need self-respect. Once you have that, then mutual respect will eventually follow.
I, too, see a pattern developing here in your remarks. My honest impression is you do not much like yourself. So then even if someone were to like you it would be hard for you to trust it, even ultimately hard for you to respect it, and in the meantime you interpret everything as dislike even when dislike may sometimes be too strong a word.
But at least you are talking about actual people in your life and not abstracting it out onto the cruel world.
Bone, it is my honest impression that you are in a toxic relationship with yourself. Whatever toxicity is going on with others is just a reflection of that.
No of course not. The whole reason why I engage in conversation is so I can come to more realizations about myself, I welcome others input.
You hit the nail on the head, about my toxic relationship with myself. I despise myself so much I believe that others feel the same way. It's a horrible fallacy, but sadly it's one I have to deal with every day. I know I can't continue like this forever which is why I keep searching for a panacea of sorts. Not a quick fix, but an epiphany.
When it's about having no sense of self-worth it is not about epiphanies. It is about the nuts & bolts of finding something you can do or can learn to do that you do well. Once you can do something well and take satisfaction and pride in it, then you will beging to incrementally accept yourself.
It has to be something that is not social. It cannot have anything to do with "helping" others who are only bugged by your efforts.
I wrote one book and am working on another. My show idea was green lighted so I should be working on scripts and story ideas. In earnest effort to get my mind off of dwelling on things I can't change unless it's through my own hard work. I really hope writing is a talent, otherwise nearly ten years of my life would be a waste :p
Get validation for your writing in a class from a teacher you respect. If he or she doesn't think much of what you do, then try another skill set in some other situation. Teachers are a good jumping off point to feel better about yourself. They're paid to encourage you and appreciate participation and support in turn. And you both go home to your separate lives.
Unfortunately no money means no writing class, and as of now I'm on academic suspension at the local community college. I'll keep searching though, a few setbacks doesn't mean the task is impossible.
@JamesNealFox If it's not too late to respond to an old post - is there actually evidence that Jesus taught the Qabala? I'll gladly accept a reference to some other source if the details are too lengthy to fit in a YouTube window. Thanks.
@Tigerpaws9097826 Yeshua looks to be a good fit for the Essenes or someone who came out of that tradition & went his own way with it. It is only legend and inference that connects Kabbalah with the Essenes, but I prefer it to the idea that Yeshua was supernatural being.
I was not going to reply, but I made several comments about your comments before all of them uploaded, so I was responding piecemeal to something you apparently intended to be read comprehensively.
You sound polite, and I don't want to be too blunt, but (1): There is nothing to your "English-translated" New Testament is missing more than half the story.
Thank you for your replies, it's a breath of fresh to be able to converse with someone else.
Sadly, I don't think the whole story will ever be known as history and translations have a tendency to erase the truth. After all only the victorious write history books.
The Greek texts are the closest we can get, but then again I have to trust someone else to do the translating. I'm sure the rest of the story can only be filled in with wisdom and imagination when and where it is appropriate.
Scientific knowledge is not possible, as the Empirical Method can only disprove previous theories and hypotheses. THE LOGIC OF SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY, Karl R. Popper.
But, yeah. What's your take on James Morgan Pryse and his translation of the New Testament?
As for scientific inquiry, it is a matter of results, and the method has demonstrated its results, so as far as I concerned it is valid knowledge.
Obviously.
As for theosophy, it was an early bridge, a very influential one, but I can't see that on the scholarly front Popper is considered the last word on translating portions of the Christian addendum to the Hebrew Bible.
Theosophy was important, so I'm not putting it down, but anything from the 19th century is way back there.
The Bible should be about letting myths be myths and allowing that tales of miracles are either exaggerations of psychic phenomena or have some legendary basis in natural causes of one kind or another.
While deriving spiritual meaning from the Bible in this context remains problematic for me, I can still respect the attempt.
I appreciate the Bible qabalistically. Qabala has problems, but those problems are more interesting than grappling with fundamentalism.
Don't you worry. Have no fear. Jesus Christ will soon be here. He curses the rich and he blesses the poor. Yo-ho, he goes skipping, tra-la, through ancient Palestine, helping the needy and the oppressed. Ah, they've been saying that through two millenia. Well, where is he?
Monkofmagnesia 1 year ago
Happy Hello, James... I'm enjoying the viewing experiences of more of your vidz this day... Thanks again for the comment you left for aspergers vs neurotypical vid. I also find myself thinking while viewing your videos and the style of your vidz also keeps my mind from doing it usual drifting from the videos, so kudos :o)
Bye for now and Cheers !!!
lexxintegra 1 year ago
There's been some debate about Genesis: The Bible is one thing & the oral tradition that it articulates is another. Genesis was crafted by priests who were up to something, but what they were up to was veiled. Ashheap (below) seems to think the subtlties of Genesis were once a matter of popular understanding, but somehow it all got lost.
No scholar would support that view. No rabbi would, either.
JamesNealFox 1 year ago
No, its about context.
ashheap 1 year ago
@ashheap No what it's about context?
JamesNealFox 1 year ago
Small correction. I don't mean Jewish religion as a whole, since it is diverse. But orthodoxy, in all religions, is useless. Stagnant. It is simply not evolutionary.
I am at the same time essentially a pluralist. All ideas can be useful. None of them are the truth. I am certainly not a christian, but it seems that Yeshua, real or not, is a Buddha, and I respect all buddhas though I do not serve them.
ashheap 1 year ago
P.S. I don't think the Jewish people became stupid over night. I would say that the Jewish religion became stupid over centuries.
ashheap 1 year ago
"Facts" have little to do with definition. Facts usually deal in statistical probabilities.
The statistical fact is that the Hebrew word for day is specifically used as the entire process of 'creation'. The overall context is also a matter of statistics. Statistically, I would say that the the first few paragraphs of Genesis were probably written together. Factually speaking, Genesis uses the word for day to mean the entire creative process at 2:4.
ashheap 1 year ago
@ashheap This is all about Gen. 2:4? Hey, for a minute I really thought I had to go back to my Hebrew reference books and may have actually missed something. At least where you're coming from with it is where some rabbis are coming from with it. Still, the old creation story, told verbally, always meant seven literal days, and then when it was written down, well, long story . . .
What can I say? I stand with the scholars.
I'll talk about it in a video some time.
JamesNealFox 1 year ago
All things considered, The Lucifer Series is educating people. Bottom line. I've seen people criticize the series as 'basic' or something, but the basics are what keep artists great, keep thinkers practical, etc.
I only criticize as a Devil's advocate. HAHA!
Peace man.
ashheap 1 year ago
Its not particularly "funny". It is predictable. It changes nothing in regards to what actually is written in Genesis. Just as what is written in Genesis changes nothing in regards to the dogma of either Orthodox Jews or most Christians.
At any rate, my point is only intended as a footnote. Too often criticisms of religions which are based on beliefs forget that those beliefs conflict with the 'holy books' at which point the whole system is vulnerable.
ashheap 1 year ago
@ashheap I'm all for peace, Ash, but I'm for facts, too. From time to time people glance at this page, and I'll stand with the facts. Youm means a 24 hour calandar day. Moreover, there's very little doubt in my mind that the creation story that was passed down verbally meant just that. Jewish people didn't get stupid suddenly and not realize what one of their old stories was saying. It was an oral tradition ages before it was written down.
JamesNealFox 1 year ago
Cerca :50 the idea of creation in 6 days is discussed. Their is a difference between what the Hebrew writer of Genesis actually said and what most fundamental Christians believe he said. "Day" in Genesis is YOHM, as in yohm kippur. It can mean a 24 hour day. But it can also mean any time period under consideration as a whole, such as in Gen 2:4 where the entire creative period is considered as a day (yohm). The division of chapters would not effect any interpretation since that was added later.
ashheap 1 year ago
@ashheap Gee, Youm Kipper is a 24 hour fast, now isn't it? & funny Orthodox Jews see the days of creation as 24 hr. intervals, & funny these days have mornings to them & evenings even. I don't have a problem with people stretching some points on the creation myth, & the Qabalistic occult interpretation is a staple of mine, but again the standard interpretation is what it is, and that's the challenge being made here, the standard rap.
JamesNealFox 1 year ago
@JamesNealFox Uh, pardon my spelling of "Kippur" as kipper. Sloppy. Day of the Kipper is an entirely different subject.
JamesNealFox 1 year ago 3
To Manche44's babble below, let me quote the verse he touts: "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then be assured that her ruin is pending."
Nothing about generations. In fact Jerusalem was surrounded by Roman armies not so long after the prophecy was made, and the temple was burned to the ground--but still no Second Coming.
JamesNealFox 1 year ago
you are a foolish man when ever JESUS preach he always say to the croud of people that he is coming very soon he did not want them to know that he will not return in their life time because if they know they will turn away from the faith because they will not be able to hold on any longer and then they will go to hell, but where are the believers now they are in heaven see? JESUS did it for their own good but JESUS told his disciples that many generations will pass before he returns luke21:20
manche44 1 year ago
The comments from Bone Shintai came in at different times, so I was responding piecemeal to it and not getting the whole thing.
I now reply to him point-for-point and number the replies accordingly, even though they are stacked in the opposite order that I intended!
The main thing is there is no other translation of the New Testament that gives the full story of Jesus or whatever. The New Testament was written in Greek, and is the same length in any translation.
JamesNealFox 2 years ago
You should also make a point to differentiate between the Old Testament, the magical/wonderful Jesus Years, and the New Testament .
People who use the English translated bibles are missing more than half the story and 99% of what Jesus was actually telling us.
Personally I like prophecy because its colorful, but as for the truth, any and all of it can be thrown away because of the power each man has given. What sucks is that people give away that power because...im sure they have their reasons.
BoneShintai 2 years ago
So many people speak for Lucifer or the Satan, or they make up things that Jesus said because they are afraid to find out the truth that their soul makes them a son of the creator. The name God or Yahweh is only a moniker to hold on to, but in the end it is a prison, much like capitalism is a prison, or an aristocracy, or that kooky Illuminati which is real on a philosophical basis.
BoneShintai 2 years ago
As for the return of Jesus. That was never up to anyone except that force that created Him. The Old Testament makes God more like a powerful King rather than the Buddhist state of creation as a whole. Jesus's actual words taken form the original Greek texts are much more powerful and relying on ethics rather than morals. I prefer Christ Jesus to any other philosopher/counselor because he wasn't selling anything.
BoneShintai 2 years ago
But in the end, my personal beliefs are meaningless to anyone but my self and my own relationship with Creation. Satanism and Romanized Christianity all lose accountability and love their egos more than anything in the world. They stop searching for answers the moment they find something shiny then they parade it around like they invented it,or they have found some magical knowledge,when in fact they are "emotionally crippled" and want the same thing Lucifer once wanted.
BoneShintai 2 years ago
(4): I think you paint too broad a brush by lumping Satanists in with Christians. At first I thought you meant Catholics, but you probably mean Christians who do not have your sense of the Gospels.
You generalize too much. You judge, and we both know those judgements end up square on your shoulders holding you back.
You mention on your page that your life goes worse after you post a video.
Seems to me there's a reason for that.
JamesNealFox 2 years ago
I'll try not to judge so much in the future and just let it be. Generalizations seem to me the unfortunate byproduct of philosophy, especially so when Nietzsche is being considered.
Honestly my intuition is telling me that those around me and those I call friends aren't that way anymore. They say they care and to them I owe a great deal of my life, but is it worth being in a toxic relationship with them?
BoneShintai 2 years ago
I'm actually starting to see a pattern develop. Those around me are allowed to have their own opinions and arguments, but when it comes time for my point of view, mine is somehow invalid/ignored or the cause for much strife.
In the end I have to take fault for everything I do, and when I talk about depression and other feelings, again I am told that my problems are meaningless.
The worst part is, I have tried to show them how to be more aware, but they don't care.
BoneShintai 2 years ago
The only way out is to accept my lot and keep on searching inward through any means necessary. It saddens me that spirituality has become an escape mechanism, which would mean that I'm going about this wrong way. Instead of escaping life I should embrace even those who shit on me. I should ignore the naysayers and remember that it's not their fault they are like that.They like to control everything in their lives, which means any opposition would lead to strife. Nothing I do will please them.
BoneShintai 2 years ago
No, Bone, it's not about being the whipping boy, if that's really your actual situation and not just you being overly sensitive. It's about realizing that you don't like yourself, so how is anyone ever going to entirely accept you? Escaping into mystic fantasy and inwardness is, as you say, just what it is.
You need self-respect. Once you have that, then mutual respect will eventually follow.
JamesNealFox 2 years ago
I, too, see a pattern developing here in your remarks. My honest impression is you do not much like yourself. So then even if someone were to like you it would be hard for you to trust it, even ultimately hard for you to respect it, and in the meantime you interpret everything as dislike even when dislike may sometimes be too strong a word.
But at least you are talking about actual people in your life and not abstracting it out onto the cruel world.
Some small hope there.
JamesNealFox 2 years ago
Bone, it is my honest impression that you are in a toxic relationship with yourself. Whatever toxicity is going on with others is just a reflection of that.
I'm not putting you down, but you asked.
JamesNealFox 2 years ago
No of course not. The whole reason why I engage in conversation is so I can come to more realizations about myself, I welcome others input.
You hit the nail on the head, about my toxic relationship with myself. I despise myself so much I believe that others feel the same way. It's a horrible fallacy, but sadly it's one I have to deal with every day. I know I can't continue like this forever which is why I keep searching for a panacea of sorts. Not a quick fix, but an epiphany.
BoneShintai 2 years ago
When it's about having no sense of self-worth it is not about epiphanies. It is about the nuts & bolts of finding something you can do or can learn to do that you do well. Once you can do something well and take satisfaction and pride in it, then you will beging to incrementally accept yourself.
It has to be something that is not social. It cannot have anything to do with "helping" others who are only bugged by your efforts.
Develop a talent, a skill.
JamesNealFox 2 years ago
I wrote one book and am working on another. My show idea was green lighted so I should be working on scripts and story ideas. In earnest effort to get my mind off of dwelling on things I can't change unless it's through my own hard work. I really hope writing is a talent, otherwise nearly ten years of my life would be a waste :p
BoneShintai 2 years ago
Get validation for your writing in a class from a teacher you respect. If he or she doesn't think much of what you do, then try another skill set in some other situation. Teachers are a good jumping off point to feel better about yourself. They're paid to encourage you and appreciate participation and support in turn. And you both go home to your separate lives.
Also, hey, you might learn something.
JamesNealFox 2 years ago
Unfortunately no money means no writing class, and as of now I'm on academic suspension at the local community college. I'll keep searching though, a few setbacks doesn't mean the task is impossible.
BoneShintai 2 years ago
(3): I respect Buddhism, too, as you apparently do. The one you call Jesus was a teacher of Qabala. Qabala evolves. Jesus tried to move it forward.
JamesNealFox 2 years ago
@JamesNealFox If it's not too late to respond to an old post - is there actually evidence that Jesus taught the Qabala? I'll gladly accept a reference to some other source if the details are too lengthy to fit in a YouTube window. Thanks.
Tigerpaws9097826 8 months ago
@Tigerpaws9097826 Yeshua looks to be a good fit for the Essenes or someone who came out of that tradition & went his own way with it. It is only legend and inference that connects Kabbalah with the Essenes, but I prefer it to the idea that Yeshua was supernatural being.
JamesNealFox 8 months ago
(2): I agree that the God concept can be a prison.
JamesNealFox 2 years ago
I was not going to reply, but I made several comments about your comments before all of them uploaded, so I was responding piecemeal to something you apparently intended to be read comprehensively.
You sound polite, and I don't want to be too blunt, but (1): There is nothing to your "English-translated" New Testament is missing more than half the story.
Where is the whole story then?
The Lithuantian translation?
JamesNealFox 2 years ago
Thank you for your replies, it's a breath of fresh to be able to converse with someone else.
Sadly, I don't think the whole story will ever be known as history and translations have a tendency to erase the truth. After all only the victorious write history books.
The Greek texts are the closest we can get, but then again I have to trust someone else to do the translating. I'm sure the rest of the story can only be filled in with wisdom and imagination when and where it is appropriate.
BoneShintai 2 years ago
You've been unusually civil and are welcomed to comment on my videos any time you like.
JamesNealFox 2 years ago
Scientific knowledge is not possible, as the Empirical Method can only disprove previous theories and hypotheses. THE LOGIC OF SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY, Karl R. Popper.
But, yeah. What's your take on James Morgan Pryse and his translation of the New Testament?
thehatefulnerd 2 years ago
As for scientific inquiry, it is a matter of results, and the method has demonstrated its results, so as far as I concerned it is valid knowledge.
Obviously.
As for theosophy, it was an early bridge, a very influential one, but I can't see that on the scholarly front Popper is considered the last word on translating portions of the Christian addendum to the Hebrew Bible.
Theosophy was important, so I'm not putting it down, but anything from the 19th century is way back there.
JamesNealFox 2 years ago
The Bible should be about letting myths be myths and allowing that tales of miracles are either exaggerations of psychic phenomena or have some legendary basis in natural causes of one kind or another.
While deriving spiritual meaning from the Bible in this context remains problematic for me, I can still respect the attempt.
I appreciate the Bible qabalistically. Qabala has problems, but those problems are more interesting than grappling with fundamentalism.
JamesNealFox 2 years ago